use placeholders for your flash content, they do a find and replace or some such method to switch them out for testing...
Even in Dreamweaver it's not like you get a preview of your flash content... it shows you a grey box with the flash icon, not very useful for anything really, so what's the point? Flash itself exports all the html that you need for embedding your object and it does it better than any other tool.
So... just drop a jpeg comp of your flash object in the layout and do a find/replace when previewing.
Hey Coral Cache sponsor... why did my browser ask to connect to ~10 different sites (though it looked like mostly edus) when I loaded that page? Just curious...
Psychology in this context is more a matter of environmental impact on the human psyche... stress. If you have to live a life full of bad stress then yeah, you're going to eventually break and go insane or at least chronicallly depressed.
On the other hand if you don't have to worry about money, housing... basically survival - then you would probably be okay for a lot longer. This means no forced work, only work that you enjoy doing on a schedule that is comfortable. This means plentiful healthy food, a very comfortable home, a good social group and some sort of goal oriented daily routine.
With these provisos I think the human mind could cope for that long.
Are there many 3rd world people blogging who can't afford this? IF so, then a charity could set up a paypal account for them and throw in $100 bucks to get them started in their new blogging careers and just replenish it every 3 months or so for those who indeed do have something to say.
Sorry, I just don't think in base 13... and I haven't read the trilogy, barely read the first one... too dry, the movie was okay though. I much prefer something like Spider Robinson's Callahan series, or the M.Y.T.H Inc. series from the 90s... much better satire IMHO.
It's called "Free download Tuesday" on iTunes... at least for music, labels promote new artists by giving away a sample. The same would hold true for new Video shows (BTW we need a new name cause TV just won't do anymore). Each network could set up a free podcast of both new pilot shows and commercials for current shows they want to promote (short clips like the coming attractions in a movie). People would subscribe to these podcasts cause they're free and convenient to synchronize and they could check them out when they run out of stuff they paid for.
I'll focus on your first statement... cause the second one already exists for corporate Windows systems if they care enough to implement it.
Microsoft should be interested in security, yes. Specifically they should be interested in putting out a secure OS. If in the pursuit of this goal they end up with a system that doesn't need 3rd party security for OS related issues then good for them. If they want to include apps other than the OS in Windows, then they should also be interested in securing those as well. If they want to make a commercial security application that allows people to run their system reasonably safely while still exposed to outside influences, no problem (say for instance you want to use email, the OS just opens the email port for you, it's secure in how it does it but there are still nasty virii and worms coming in with all the normal mail... they should secure Outlook against this but they could also provide an alternative tool for those who want to use a different email client).
I don't see a conflict here as far as profit goes, unless they are profiting from problems in their own apps. If all the Microsoft apps are secured against vulnerabilities they have, then MS can make a security program that protects other 3rd party apps that haven't done so. If on the other hand MS wants to make an app that just 'fixes' the problems in their other software, then no they should not make a profit from it... they should simply admit that their software is insecure and that it is easier for them to create an app that specifically addresses these things and is easy to update without breaking their other apps and of course give it away to anyone with a license to their other software. If this strategy to make their apps secure eats into the sales of a 3rd party who only exists to do the same thing... waa waa... it was a niche that should never have existed to begin with.
See you must have thought that VOIP was some sort of telephony thing... really it was always Video Over IPOD... they just wanted to get the word out there ala viral marketing.
I'll be getting some x86 Powermacs this coming summer.
My only security concern comes from not knowing how many threats out there are based on CPU vulnerabilities that don't affect PPCs but do affect x86 based CPUs.
Will it soon be as easy to port over viruses, trojans and worms to OS X as it will be to port games and other apps?
Otherwise I have no worries... Apple stays on top of security issues and doesn't have the back log of known vulns that windows has. In addition, many of the vulns that could affect OS X would also affect Linux/BSD so OS X gets the benefits of those communities watching for problems/patching problems as well.
No really, in California it takes $25 to get a license. You take a multiple choice test, if you miss more than x questions (when I took it the number was 8) you fail. If you pass, you schedule a driving test and go out with a test admin in your car, which must have up to date Registration and Insurance (actually it can be your parents car or your friends). If you get more than 3 points marked against you you fail. If you fail the driving portion 3 times you have to wait 3 months, then retake the 'written test' and driving test.
Most importantly though, you must have proof of personal liability insurance, which for teens is rather expensive.
There is no requirement for taking driving lessons if you're over 18 but if you do, you get a % discount on insurance (which makes that perosn you hit and injure later very grateful of course). If you're 16+ but not 18 you have to take lessons which costs around $300 but are pretty lame (here's the gas pedal, break pedal, use turn signals, buckle up.. now drive).
So really, it's rather cheap to get a license if you do well the first time around... it's the car + insurance that costs money here.
There is no good reason for DNS to remain US governed, even under the auspices of ICANN. If the US Gov needs a timeline to transistion national security related communications over to a second system of networking then that is understandable and should be fought for without reservation but to say that there is no timeframe wherein they could make that change happen in order to turn over control to an international body... I call BS.
On the other hand, each government should also have control of it's own DNS servers within it's own geography for maintaining it's commerce and communications sovereignty... but this is not contradictory to a Int Body governing the allocation of address blocks to each country or determining policy for TLDs.
The US Gov doesn't currently control the telephone number address space for other countries, why is the internet different?
On the negative side of things... I'm fairly certain that China is the biggest supporter of getting DNS out of US hands and into the control of a Gov they have influence over, namely the UN. China would probably love to have the ability to cut off their people from accessing anything outside of China without a dispensation for commercial communications from their gov.... this will happen if the UN gets control and it will be really sad, but the Chinese people need to confront their gov on this one and demand more rights... if the people do, then the international public shoud support them against their gov via sanctions to not communicate with China, nor to trade with them. It will be messy but in the end will be better than treating them like the spoiled teenager that they are acting like. ("sorry Li, you can't drive the car cause you're not responsible enough" except Li is 30 years old and needs to go to work... so it should be "Li, if you get a DUI you go to jail. If you get into an accident and kill someone, you're going to jail. Be responsible. We won't bail you out.)
Sounds like splitting hairs to me. IF a person wants to copy a book by taking the time to compile all the 'quotes' by using Google's search system, then what is the difference with them going to the library and making a photocopy of all the pages?
The real reason people purchase books is for the convenience of having the whole thing in a format that is easy to acquire, easy to read, pre-organized and guaranteed to be complete (or their money back). Some people also prefer to experience the literature in the format chosen by the author supposedly to complement it.
Unless Google provides an easy way to script searches of the book database (ie: like they do for their web searches) I don't see this as a problem going forward... very few people will take the time to do all the searches necessary to get a full manuscript, not when they can order it online for a few bucks and get it in the mail the next day... or go to the local library or bookstore and pick up an original copy. Any person who does take the time either A) can't afford the books to begin with or B) would never have bought the book.
Avid readers are few and far between, avid enough and poor enough and lazy enough to stay home with Google instead of going to the library?
No I think this is just about money... the authors guild wants a cut of the Google ad money...
You got one part right... opt-in, definitely opt-in... Google wants to make money, they should have to work for it.
" The Massachusetts policy would instead direct contracts to just a few technology providers, while many would be locked out."
An interesting sentence that exemplifies the hypocrisy ripe within his arguments... we all know Open source is open and anyone can choose to support it as a 'technology provider'. Whereas Microsoft hand picks those companies it approves to have access to the information needed to be a good provider of it's technology.
This doesn't make any sense. In fact IMHO reality dictates that the situation is exactly opposite to this statement, excepting the fact that existing MS providers would have to adopt the Open format if they want to continue being a provider.. a choice they can freely make, but to say they would be 'locked out' is a flat out lie.
Oh and to avoid the kids hacking their client laptop, have a root/admin password that gets updated everyday through the local net when the laptop signs on at the school. Store the password in a db at the school with the laptop ID number as the key and where the db host goes online for one hour in the morning to do the updates and then goes offline, to avoid someone hacking it.
For kids in elementary school all you need to do is have the laptops paired up to the local network only. They don't need internet access. This would solve the majority of the problems and would still provide the functionality desired. You get a word processor, calculator, spreadsheet program, calendar, notebook and all the reading materials.
The laptops automatically sign on to the school local net, identify themselves and the latest updates are installed, ie: the daily worksheets, homework assignments, media, etc. as well as any OS updates.
Kids can take them home to do their homework but can't use them to go online... just to do homework based on the materials they downloaded that day (which could include a set of web pages the teacher had picked out and downloaded the night before for distribution, the kids would still have to search through them to find the relevant info..).
When they arrive at school the next day their homework gets uploaded to the local net and the teacher is notified and can retrieve them when ready to go over the answers or review the reports....
so you see, there could be a useful way for PCs to be integrated without creating the sort of problems we are seeing now.
And I wish you weren't such a cranky old fart (regardless of your actual age). This is an announcement from MIT Media Lab... not Dell or Apple, or IBM or any other profit center...
I'd mod this as a troll if I could.
Now I'll go an post a real response to this announcement which if you had RTFA you'd realize is much more interesting than you give it credit for.
Oh I'm American... and I love Cheese;-p especially a good sheep cheese with some water crackers, lamb shanks and a glass of pinot noir
Yeah, food products aren't what they used to be... namely 'food'. I once saw a can of pink paste with a label on it that said "Canned Meat Product" it said it included 'mechanically separated chicken parts' heheheheheehe... it smelled so bad...
Obviously I'm not a vegetarian but I won't put anything in me that isn't from a whole plant or animal, preferably organic. Anything else and you're just as likely to be ingesting a wicked brew of chemicals that have who knows what effect on your body.
Nice pictures. Looks genuine, sounds genuine... i never heard about it. Too bad, the media should have been all over it. I'm not one to listen or watch entirely provocative news media though so maybe I just missed it. Do you know if anyone is still being held? That would make it somewhat comparable to a real problem scenario. Personally I'd compare it to living in a dorm room at any university... ie: not that bad (but something I'd never want to experience first hand;-p). Was anyone beaten? Injury that led to long term hospitalization? I'm pretty sure you could piss off a judge in a court room by giving him/her the bird and get a worse sentence.
A little anecdote for comparison:
When I was a teenager we'd go running around messing with stuff as teenagers will do. Me and my buddies got arrested once for trespassing which was totally stupid cause it was public land but not apparently open to 'the public'. We knew we weren't supposed to be there because we could hurt ourselves but we thought we had every right to do so.. hey, it's our health right.. except that our parents could have sued the city since they would be liable for not keeping us away from the area where we were. So they arrested us and held us until someone more responsible could take us out of their hands. We bitched about it for weeks.. unfair, how dare they, who gave them the right, freedom, etc. etc.
It's only as an adult with an understanding of complex property laws and hierarchies of liability and responsibility that I realize why they arrested us... 1. it was in our best interests to keep us from harming ourselves 2. it was in the city's best ineterest to avoid the liability of allowing us to do stupid things on their watch 3. it would be a waste of everyone's time and a tax on the resources of the community to ignore the consequences of allowing either 1 or 2 to come to pass...
You do realize that people in positions of authority have crazy amounts of stuff to do all the time and limited resources with which to do it, not to mention their own families to take care of with any time/resources left over.
When said people see large chaotic groups they tend to think
a) crap this is gonna be annoying and take a lot of time and resources to avoid taking more time and resources to fix when things go wrong
b) I really don't want to deal with these idiots... I want to be home with my family eating dinner, damnit!
Never do they think: c) hmmm let's see how many of these people I can detain and trample the rights of while claiming to be the adminstrator of those very rights.
The problem is that activist methods are exactly this... their whole point is to annoy and cajole authorities into paying attention to them cause they aren't paying attention to more conventional methods.
So you see that the only possible outcome is the one that happened. The activists were detained, moved into an area where they couldn't hurt themselves, anyone else (accidentally of course, they're not anarchists) or any property... and processed in as orderly a fashion as possible. What could have been done better would be to have provided plenty of food water and decent accomodations.. probably the result of some authorities misguided belief that some sort of conditioning was possible (treat them badly and maybe they'll think twice about doing it again) which only makes things worse. They should have paid for a hotel somewhere instead and housed the detainees like they would a jury panel then make them sign a contract that they'd pay for any damage and assign them to rooms.
Not that impressed in any case. Though I'm sure it was a slap in the face to some of the detainees who thought they were completely in the right and the authorities completely in the wrong. Embarrased and degraded I'm sure, but so was I when my parents had to come pick me up from the police station, just for going swimming.
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use placeholders for your flash content, they do a find and replace or some such method to switch them out for testing...
Even in Dreamweaver it's not like you get a preview of your flash content... it shows you a grey box with the flash icon, not very useful for anything really, so what's the point? Flash itself exports all the html that you need for embedding your object and it does it better than any other tool.
So... just drop a jpeg comp of your flash object in the layout and do a find/replace when previewing.
Hey Coral Cache sponsor... why did my browser ask to connect to ~10 different sites (though it looked like mostly edus) when I loaded that page? Just curious...
Psychology in this context is more a matter of environmental impact on the human psyche... stress. If you have to live a life full of bad stress then yeah, you're going to eventually break and go insane or at least chronicallly depressed.
On the other hand if you don't have to worry about money, housing... basically survival - then you would probably be okay for a lot longer. This means no forced work, only work that you enjoy doing on a schedule that is comfortable. This means plentiful healthy food, a very comfortable home, a good social group and some sort of goal oriented daily routine.
With these provisos I think the human mind could cope for that long.
Are there many 3rd world people blogging who can't afford this? IF so, then a charity could set up a paypal account for them and throw in $100 bucks to get them started in their new blogging careers and just replenish it every 3 months or so for those who indeed do have something to say.
I was born in 1978 and I didn't even get into programming until 4 years ago... ;-p imagine how good I'd be if I'd started way back when....
Sorry, I just don't think in base 13... and I haven't read the trilogy, barely read the first one... too dry, the movie was okay though. I much prefer something like Spider Robinson's Callahan series, or the M.Y.T.H Inc. series from the 90s... much better satire IMHO.
Shouldn't it be "What do you get if you multiply six by seven" since you're responding to a post about Hitchhiker?
It's called "Free download Tuesday" on iTunes... at least for music, labels promote new artists by giving away a sample. The same would hold true for new Video shows (BTW we need a new name cause TV just won't do anymore). Each network could set up a free podcast of both new pilot shows and commercials for current shows they want to promote (short clips like the coming attractions in a movie). People would subscribe to these podcasts cause they're free and convenient to synchronize and they could check them out when they run out of stuff they paid for.
I'm just hoping you're female... I know the chances are pretty slim here on /. but the alternative makes me uncomfortable ;-p
There's an app called PithHelmet that does great adblocking and a whole lot more... it's not free but it does a great job.
I'll focus on your first statement... cause the second one already exists for corporate Windows systems if they care enough to implement it.
Microsoft should be interested in security, yes. Specifically they should be interested in putting out a secure OS. If in the pursuit of this goal they end up with a system that doesn't need 3rd party security for OS related issues then good for them. If they want to include apps other than the OS in Windows, then they should also be interested in securing those as well. If they want to make a commercial security application that allows people to run their system reasonably safely while still exposed to outside influences, no problem (say for instance you want to use email, the OS just opens the email port for you, it's secure in how it does it but there are still nasty virii and worms coming in with all the normal mail... they should secure Outlook against this but they could also provide an alternative tool for those who want to use a different email client).
I don't see a conflict here as far as profit goes, unless they are profiting from problems in their own apps. If all the Microsoft apps are secured against vulnerabilities they have, then MS can make a security program that protects other 3rd party apps that haven't done so. If on the other hand MS wants to make an app that just 'fixes' the problems in their other software, then no they should not make a profit from it... they should simply admit that their software is insecure and that it is easier for them to create an app that specifically addresses these things and is easy to update without breaking their other apps and of course give it away to anyone with a license to their other software. If this strategy to make their apps secure eats into the sales of a 3rd party who only exists to do the same thing... waa waa... it was a niche that should never have existed to begin with.
fish police
hehehehe messed up the link above, that's what you get when you don't preview...
The other replies were funny but this one is interesting and funny..
Fish Police
See you must have thought that VOIP was some sort of telephony thing... really it was always Video Over IPOD... they just wanted to get the word out there ala viral marketing.
I'll be getting some x86 Powermacs this coming summer.
My only security concern comes from not knowing how many threats out there are based on CPU vulnerabilities that don't affect PPCs but do affect x86 based CPUs.
Will it soon be as easy to port over viruses, trojans and worms to OS X as it will be to port games and other apps?
Otherwise I have no worries... Apple stays on top of security issues and doesn't have the back log of known vulns that windows has. In addition, many of the vulns that could affect OS X would also affect Linux/BSD so OS X gets the benefits of those communities watching for problems/patching problems as well.
In Soviet Russia, Car licenses you!
No really, in California it takes $25 to get a license. You take a multiple choice test, if you miss more than x questions (when I took it the number was 8) you fail. If you pass, you schedule a driving test and go out with a test admin in your car, which must have up to date Registration and Insurance (actually it can be your parents car or your friends). If you get more than 3 points marked against you you fail. If you fail the driving portion 3 times you have to wait 3 months, then retake the 'written test' and driving test.
Most importantly though, you must have proof of personal liability insurance, which for teens is rather expensive.
There is no requirement for taking driving lessons if you're over 18 but if you do, you get a % discount on insurance (which makes that perosn you hit and injure later very grateful of course). If you're 16+ but not 18 you have to take lessons which costs around $300 but are pretty lame (here's the gas pedal, break pedal, use turn signals, buckle up.. now drive).
So really, it's rather cheap to get a license if you do well the first time around... it's the car + insurance that costs money here.
There is no good reason for DNS to remain US governed, even under the auspices of ICANN. If the US Gov needs a timeline to transistion national security related communications over to a second system of networking then that is understandable and should be fought for without reservation but to say that there is no timeframe wherein they could make that change happen in order to turn over control to an international body... I call BS.
On the other hand, each government should also have control of it's own DNS servers within it's own geography for maintaining it's commerce and communications sovereignty... but this is not contradictory to a Int Body governing the allocation of address blocks to each country or determining policy for TLDs.
The US Gov doesn't currently control the telephone number address space for other countries, why is the internet different?
On the negative side of things... I'm fairly certain that China is the biggest supporter of getting DNS out of US hands and into the control of a Gov they have influence over, namely the UN. China would probably love to have the ability to cut off their people from accessing anything outside of China without a dispensation for commercial communications from their gov.... this will happen if the UN gets control and it will be really sad, but the Chinese people need to confront their gov on this one and demand more rights... if the people do, then the international public shoud support them against their gov via sanctions to not communicate with China, nor to trade with them. It will be messy but in the end will be better than treating them like the spoiled teenager that they are acting like. ("sorry Li, you can't drive the car cause you're not responsible enough" except Li is 30 years old and needs to go to work... so it should be "Li, if you get a DUI you go to jail. If you get into an accident and kill someone, you're going to jail. Be responsible. We won't bail you out.)
Sounds like splitting hairs to me. IF a person wants to copy a book by taking the time to compile all the 'quotes' by using Google's search system, then what is the difference with them going to the library and making a photocopy of all the pages?
The real reason people purchase books is for the convenience of having the whole thing in a format that is easy to acquire, easy to read, pre-organized and guaranteed to be complete (or their money back). Some people also prefer to experience the literature in the format chosen by the author supposedly to complement it.
Unless Google provides an easy way to script searches of the book database (ie: like they do for their web searches) I don't see this as a problem going forward... very few people will take the time to do all the searches necessary to get a full manuscript, not when they can order it online for a few bucks and get it in the mail the next day... or go to the local library or bookstore and pick up an original copy. Any person who does take the time either A) can't afford the books to begin with or B) would never have bought the book.
Avid readers are few and far between, avid enough and poor enough and lazy enough to stay home with Google instead of going to the library?
No I think this is just about money... the authors guild wants a cut of the Google ad money...
You got one part right... opt-in, definitely opt-in... Google wants to make money, they should have to work for it.
" The Massachusetts policy would instead direct contracts to just a few technology providers, while many would be locked out."
An interesting sentence that exemplifies the hypocrisy ripe within his arguments... we all know Open source is open and anyone can choose to support it as a 'technology provider'. Whereas Microsoft hand picks those companies it approves to have access to the information needed to be a good provider of it's technology.
This doesn't make any sense. In fact IMHO reality dictates that the situation is exactly opposite to this statement, excepting the fact that existing MS providers would have to adopt the Open format if they want to continue being a provider.. a choice they can freely make, but to say they would be 'locked out' is a flat out lie.
Oh and to avoid the kids hacking their client laptop, have a root/admin password that gets updated everyday through the local net when the laptop signs on at the school. Store the password in a db at the school with the laptop ID number as the key and where the db host goes online for one hour in the morning to do the updates and then goes offline, to avoid someone hacking it.
For kids in elementary school all you need to do is have the laptops paired up to the local network only. They don't need internet access. This would solve the majority of the problems and would still provide the functionality desired. You get a word processor, calculator, spreadsheet program, calendar, notebook and all the reading materials.
The laptops automatically sign on to the school local net, identify themselves and the latest updates are installed, ie: the daily worksheets, homework assignments, media, etc. as well as any OS updates.
Kids can take them home to do their homework but can't use them to go online... just to do homework based on the materials they downloaded that day (which could include a set of web pages the teacher had picked out and downloaded the night before for distribution, the kids would still have to search through them to find the relevant info..).
When they arrive at school the next day their homework gets uploaded to the local net and the teacher is notified and can retrieve them when ready to go over the answers or review the reports....
so you see, there could be a useful way for PCs to be integrated without creating the sort of problems we are seeing now.
more like
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*blue scream of death*
duh-dunk, tch...
And I wish you weren't such a cranky old fart (regardless of your actual age). This is an announcement from MIT Media Lab... not Dell or Apple, or IBM or any other profit center...
I'd mod this as a troll if I could.
Now I'll go an post a real response to this announcement which if you had RTFA you'd realize is much more interesting than you give it credit for.
Oh I'm American... and I love Cheese ;-p especially a good sheep cheese with some water crackers, lamb shanks and a glass of pinot noir
Yeah, food products aren't what they used to be... namely 'food'. I once saw a can of pink paste with a label on it that said "Canned Meat Product" it said it included 'mechanically separated chicken parts' heheheheheehe... it smelled so bad...
Obviously I'm not a vegetarian but I won't put anything in me that isn't from a whole plant or animal, preferably organic. Anything else and you're just as likely to be ingesting a wicked brew of chemicals that have who knows what effect on your body.
Nice pictures. Looks genuine, sounds genuine... i never heard about it. Too bad, the media should have been all over it. I'm not one to listen or watch entirely provocative news media though so maybe I just missed it. Do you know if anyone is still being held? That would make it somewhat comparable to a real problem scenario. Personally I'd compare it to living in a dorm room at any university... ie: not that bad (but something I'd never want to experience first hand ;-p). Was anyone beaten? Injury that led to long term hospitalization? I'm pretty sure you could piss off a judge in a court room by giving him/her the bird and get a worse sentence.
A little anecdote for comparison:
When I was a teenager we'd go running around messing with stuff as teenagers will do. Me and my buddies got arrested once for trespassing which was totally stupid cause it was public land but not apparently open to 'the public'. We knew we weren't supposed to be there because we could hurt ourselves but we thought we had every right to do so.. hey, it's our health right.. except that our parents could have sued the city since they would be liable for not keeping us away from the area where we were. So they arrested us and held us until someone more responsible could take us out of their hands. We bitched about it for weeks.. unfair, how dare they, who gave them the right, freedom, etc. etc.
It's only as an adult with an understanding of complex property laws and hierarchies of liability and responsibility that I realize why they arrested us... 1. it was in our best interests to keep us from harming ourselves 2. it was in the city's best ineterest to avoid the liability of allowing us to do stupid things on their watch 3. it would be a waste of everyone's time and a tax on the resources of the community to ignore the consequences of allowing either 1 or 2 to come to pass...
You do realize that people in positions of authority have crazy amounts of stuff to do all the time and limited resources with which to do it, not to mention their own families to take care of with any time/resources left over.
When said people see large chaotic groups they tend to think
a) crap this is gonna be annoying and take a lot of time and resources to avoid taking more time and resources to fix when things go wrong
b) I really don't want to deal with these idiots... I want to be home with my family eating dinner, damnit!
Never do they think: c) hmmm let's see how many of these people I can detain and trample the rights of while claiming to be the adminstrator of those very rights.
The problem is that activist methods are exactly this... their whole point is to annoy and cajole authorities into paying attention to them cause they aren't paying attention to more conventional methods.
So you see that the only possible outcome is the one that happened. The activists were detained, moved into an area where they couldn't hurt themselves, anyone else (accidentally of course, they're not anarchists) or any property... and processed in as orderly a fashion as possible. What could have been done better would be to have provided plenty of food water and decent accomodations.. probably the result of some authorities misguided belief that some sort of conditioning was possible (treat them badly and maybe they'll think twice about doing it again) which only makes things worse. They should have paid for a hotel somewhere instead and housed the detainees like they would a jury panel then make them sign a contract that they'd pay for any damage and assign them to rooms.
Not that impressed in any case. Though I'm sure it was a slap in the face to some of the detainees who thought they were completely in the right and the authorities completely in the wrong. Embarrased and degraded I'm sure, but so was I when my parents had to come pick me up from the police station, just for going swimming.