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Autonomous RoboFish at the London Aquarium

mikael writes "The London Aquarium currently has an exhibit based on autonomous robotic fish. Each fish is 50 cm long, 15 cm high, and 12cm wide with a maximum swim speed of 50cm/second with battery life lasting up to 5 hours at half speed. The BBC has more details (with video). Many more videos are available at the Robotics Video Gallery." From the article: "We have embedded sensors on board - so, unlike the previous fishes that have remote controls, these are fully autonomous and artificial-intelligence based ... This one is more life-like - it mimics normal swimming and sharp turning ... People get confused and think it's a real fish."

136 comments

  1. Evolution by I_am_Rambi · · Score: 3, Funny

    this will soon evolve into a human (given millions of years) and then it will be a police officer. So then we have:

    RoboCop

    1. Re:Evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      RoboCop

      Correction: RoboCod

    2. Re:Evolution by Alien+Being · · Score: 5, Funny

      Or RoboCarp.

    3. Re:Evolution by Paladin84 · · Score: 3, Funny

      Or much like this pun, RoboCrap

    4. Re:Evolution by ankarbass · · Score: 2, Funny

      Slashdot needs a funnier mod, cause if I had mod points....

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    5. Re:Evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      complaining: robo_carp

    6. Re:Evolution by lordofthechia · · Score: 1

      His favorite catchfrase:

      "Carpe diem, creep!"

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    7. Re:Evolution by yeruki · · Score: 1

      Ah yes, RoboCop. I doubt it would even take a few million years. Give it....10 years? Maybe.

    8. Re:Evolution by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Please tell me you don't believe that "phrase" is actually spelled with an "f".

    9. Re:Evolution by CastrTroy · · Score: 1

      You've been playing a little too much animal crossing.

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    10. Re:Evolution by foniksonik · · Score: 1

      The other replies were funny but this one is interesting and funny..

      Fish Police

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    11. Re:Evolution by foniksonik · · Score: 1

      fish police

      hehehehe messed up the link above, that's what you get when you don't preview...

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    12. Re:Evolution by ITsAlive · · Score: 1

      RoboCop -> RoboCod -> RoboCarp -> RoboCrap

      Wow! Evolution in Action!

  2. Solar Powered? by pilotcam · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Just think, if they were only solar powered...

    1. Re:Solar Powered? by rooftop · · Score: 0

      or lived on chemicals? clean rivers!

    2. Re:Solar Powered? by OneDeeTenTee · · Score: 1

      or lived on chemicals? clean rivers!

      The problem with that is that you'd have to extract the energy-bearing chemicals from the water (water is a chemical too of course) and that would most likely take more energy than it would yield.

      It may be possible to make them filter feeders and power them with the methane produced by the decay of whatever organic matter they remove from the water. Solar may be a good supplimental power source if they float when they lose power.

      Hmm...

      Most every mineral/element can be found in seawater. Set them up to extract minerals from seawater and "excrete" the minerals in floating pellets.

      Better yet equip them with the capability to build themselves and then harvest them later.

      Of course these would probably have to process millions (perhaps even billions) of tons of seawater in order to produce just one robot fish so the rate at which they double thier population would be very very slow.

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    3. Re:Solar Powered? by rooftop · · Score: 0

      >Better yet equip them with the capability to
      >build themselves and then harvest them later.

      That reminds me of those 3d-printers that would be
      capable of "printing" clones of itself. What ever
      happened to those? Why don't i have one now? :)

  3. Do not use Electric Fish in Bathtub! by billstewart · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do not use Happy Fun Electric Fish in Bathtub or Aquarium.
    Do not taunt Happy Fun Electric Fish.
    Keep Happy Fun Electric Fish in refrigerator when not in use.
    Do not let Happy Fun Electric Fish locate Sarah Conner..

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    1. Re:Do not use Electric Fish in Bathtub! by GrandLeo · · Score: 0

      Don't feed the fish
      Don't feed the robots
      Most importantly:
      Don't feed the robots that look like fish.

  4. The next step is.... by elgee · · Score: 4, Funny

    RoboSushi

    1. Re:The next step is.... by TooMuchEspressoGuy · · Score: 2, Funny

      Great way to get your daily value of iron, I suppose.

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    2. Re:The next step is.... by macklin01 · · Score: 1

      That's funny. I remember getting quite a taste for seafood when snorkeling among rainbow snappers in the Florida Keys. (Mmm, those look tasty!) And when my wife and I saw giant crabs at the Long Beach Aquarium before lunch, all the kids said "whoa," while all the adults said, "Looks like lunch!"

      I can only fear the cravings brought on by robot fish!!! :-) -- Paul

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    3. Re:The next step is.... by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 2, Funny

      Mmm, irony...

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  5. These sound like an excellent pet! by CyricZ · · Score: 1

    These sound like a fantastic pet! They appear nowhere near as fake as the various robotic dogs, but offer the benefit of requiring infrequent "care". This is the kind of a pet that incompetent children should have. It doesn't matter if the child doesn't feed the pet on a daily basis.

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    1. Re:These sound like an excellent pet! by ikkonoishi · · Score: 1

      If you define infrequent as "every five hours".

      I for one do not welcome our short battery life pet fish overlords.

    2. Re:These sound like an excellent pet! by mrchaotica · · Score: 4, Insightful

      They require more frequent care than real fish, since you have to recharge the battery every five hours. Now, what they really ought to do is make an automatic charging station shaped like a little castle...

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    3. Re:These sound like an excellent pet! by iosmart · · Score: 2, Funny

      Yea, the worst will be when the kid witnesses a parent plugging the fish into a wall socket.

    4. Re:These sound like an excellent pet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why give something that expensive if the kid is "incompetent?" Give him a frozen tuna and he'll probably have just as much fun, assuming he's not too busy drooling on himself.

    5. Re:These sound like an excellent pet! by tktk · · Score: 1

      Why not just run an electric charge through the water?

    6. Re:These sound like an excellent pet! by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      I don't know, but the summary (REAL Slashdotters don't read articles!) mentioned batteries. I assume the aquarium has a reason, such as allowing the robofish to coexist with real fish, or having it be safe to put your hand in the tank, or something.

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    7. Re:These sound like an excellent pet! by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 3, Informative

      I believe just charging the water would not create a current within the fish unless the fish had a ground that didn't also ground the water. Path of lease resistance and all that.

      An easier solution would be induction charged fish.

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    8. Re:These sound like an excellent pet! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just put them in a tank with a few electric eels.

    9. Re:These sound like an excellent pet! by DrSkwid · · Score: 1

      you know you meant least resistance yeah ?

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    10. Re:These sound like an excellent pet! by NumbThumb · · Score: 1

      ...and tries the same with hist little sister.

      But seriously: do not decive your children! Tell them what's what! Thanks you.

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    11. Re:These sound like an excellent pet! by cloudmaster · · Score: 1

      For the same reason you can't just hook the positive side of your car's battery up and expect it to work. Voltage is really a difference in potential between two points, and the water would just have a distributed potential that'd be hard to take advantage of for charging purposes. Like the other guy said - induction would be a great way to power these (IMHO).

    12. Re:These sound like an excellent pet! by Jace+of+Fuse! · · Score: 1

      Yes, Least. Sorry about the typo.

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  6. So when they run out of batteries? by nihilistcanada · · Score: 5, Funny

    Do they float up to the surface upside down?

    1. Re:So when they run out of batteries? by broothal · · Score: 1

      Parent is modded funny, but in reality it's an interesting question. It would be a good idea if they did float to the surface when they run out of battery. It makes it a whole lot easier to pick it up and recharge it.

    2. Re:So when they run out of batteries? by Hogwash+McFly · · Score: 1

      No, the real question is: when they run out of batteries, do you flush them down the toilet?

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  7. Too bad its London Aquarium.... place is a joke by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I've been to dozens of aquariums all over the world and that one is nearly the worst.

    1. Re:Too bad its London Aquarium.... place is a joke by ZachPruckowski · · Score: 3, Funny

      I've been to dozens of aquariums all over the world and that one is nearly the worst.
      Well, that explains the "robotic fish" They don't die if they aren't fed. Clearly they became the main attraction as a result of natural selection - all the other exhibits went belly-up.

  8. Turing Test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful
    "People get confused and think it's a real fish."

    Now, if the fish get confuded and think they're real fish, then, we've got something.

    1. Re:Turing Test by TooMuchEspressoGuy · · Score: 1
      "Now, if the fish get confuded and think they're real fish, then, we've got something."

      If the fish "get confuded", then I think there's more than one thing wrong with it.

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    2. Re:Turing Test by greenguy · · Score: 1

      Right. 'Cause we all know how difficult it is to fool a fish.

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    3. Re:Turing Test by ITsAlive · · Score: 1

      Or those fish might become philosophical and conclude:

      I swim therefore I am.

  9. Fuel cell! by iosmart · · Score: 1

    Hmm, now what would happen if they get that thing to run on fuel cell? You could just have a huge tank filled with whatever it runs on :D

    1. Re:Fuel cell! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      Robot fish swimming in a transparent vat of explosive fluid for public display. Your brilliant.

    2. Re:Fuel cell! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sir... excuse me, sir. I... I think you mean "you're", not "your"... Pardon my correction, just trying to be of help. Good day, sir.

  10. Laser beams? by tinrobot · · Score: 3, Funny

    You know, I have one simple request. And that is to have sharks with frickin' laser beams attached to their heads!

    1. Re:Laser beams? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is this close enough?

    2. Re:Laser beams? by Rhinobird · · Score: 1

      These are more like illtempered bass.

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    3. Re:Laser beams? by jacksonj04 · · Score: 1

      But do they sing at you?

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  11. fish pfft! by pbhj · · Score: 1

    5 hours battery life ... so do they have a robo-shark (cue jokes about fricking lasers) to track the exhausted ones down and bring them back for fresh batteries?

  12. sushi fuel cell? by pbhj · · Score: 1

    Castlised recharge station, pah!

    Sushi based fuel cells and mastication equipment ... more like it!

    1. Re:sushi fuel cell? by mrchaotica · · Score: 1

      So your fake fish would eat your real fish? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose, since you'd have to keep stocking the tank with bait?

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  13. Tunaring Test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Can real fish tell the difference? Do they react like they would to another fish...assuming real fish DO react to other fish, I mean. I don't know anything about fish but at least I'm anonymous.

    1. Re:Tunaring Test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt the fish can tell the difference, which brings up an interesting question - what would happen if robofish got humped?

      BzzzT! Poff!!

      Does this replace the fishing pole and dynamite?

    2. Re:Tunaring Test by NanoGator · · Score: 1

      "Can real fish tell the difference? Do they react like they would to another fish...assuming real fish DO react to other fish, I mean. I don't know anything about fish but at least I'm anonymous."

      I don't know either. It really depends on what the fish react to. If these 'robo fish' make different noises (i.e. gears, etc..) the fish may dodge them simply for that. (I'm curious about what fish are aware of with regards to their enviornment... anybody have any insight to share?)

      I remember once I brought a stuffed cat toy home and set it on the floor. My real cat took one look of that and went "oh shit!! Who the hell is that?!" After some sniffing the fear went away and the stuffed cat was largely ignored.

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    3. Re:Tunaring Test by chris+macura · · Score: 1

      Likewise with dogs, although mine uses the stuffed one as a sex toy.

    4. Re:Tunaring Test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Informative

      I suspect they'll get tasted by the big guys.

      "Pet" or home tank fish have personalities (so to speak).

      Feeder fish - guppies, mollies, swordtails, neons, you know, kiddie fish that the bigger fish eat - seem primarily to respond to the threat of a larger predator, and some of them do not react much. I've seen goldfish swim within a few inches of the front end of an Oscar.

      Ciclids (mid and large sized fish from Africa and the Americas) are fairly aware of their surroundings and appear to see out to varying extents. They have at least half a clue. They are also predators. They go from a couple to a few inches in length and have teeth.

      Oscars (big Ciclids growing to ten inches in length or so in a modest tank, fifteen inches in a large tank or in the wild) and the other big guys know you're there, know you are the guy with the food, and will dance about when they see you reach for the food tin. They can suck a goldfish in from several inches by just violently expanding their gills. Oscars will nip at your arm as you clean the tank - surprise, but no damage - the teeth are rounded on the end. Still completely ruins the day for the goldfish.

      So in general it depends: non-predators are rather unaware, predators know what's going on. Big predators look out and recognize people.

    5. Re:Tunaring Test by mikael · · Score: 2, Informative

      A similar experiment was conducted at the Plymouth aquarium. They placed a robotic shark alongside
      real sharks.


        Two scientific papers are being proposed on the subject.
      Roboshark inventor Andrew Sneath said the sand tiger sharks at the aquarium had accepted their new companion.
      "They seem to quite enjoy it and seem intrigued by its presence.
      "They are accepting what he's doing and just letting him keep on swimming around," he said.
      Andrew will be making the most of the unique education opportunities offered by Roboshark's blend of robot with nature.

      He will be developing similar robot exhibits for other aquariums and science centres.

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  14. hahahahahahaha by Mister+White · · Score: 1

    ...next comes the part where they give them a longer-lasting power supply and then they escape in to the ocean.

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  15. Great by blackpaw · · Score: 1

    robot fish porn ...

  16. Someone had to do it. by LothDaddy · · Score: 4, Funny

    1. See /. story about fish
    2. Make comment about "friggin lasers on their heads"
    3. Get modded +X Funny
    4. Profit??

    1. Re:Someone had to do it. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, I could point out how lame ?? profit is, but instead...
      3a. include link to commercial site in .sig
      4. profit

  17. The videos. . by Spo22a · · Score: 1
    look seriously awesome.

    I can see how from a distance you would never be able to pick this from a real fish. (Though perhaps people experienced with fish might?)

    It would be interesting to see how the other real fish interact, or try to interact with these robots - are they considered friend/foe? or a part of the scenery just like the castle and the plastic sea diver.

    1. Re:The videos. . by tsa · · Score: 1

      Although the movements of these robo-fish at first glance look fantastically real there is a giveaway. I've watched my goldfish swim around in its tank a lot, and was/am surprised about what it uses the the two fins at the front of its body for (the fins that stick downwards and to the side). These are the fins that make a fish a real fish. They are used for accurate positioning, turning, standing upright (so the fish can look for food between the little stones at the bottom of the tank), swimming backwards... I haven't seen the robofish use them at all. I presume that the next generation of robofish will be able to move those fins also.

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  18. Most expensive bait ever. by Rickler · · Score: 1

    Congrats; Most expensive bait ever.

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  19. Yeah, by bcjanes · · Score: 1

    But what do they taste like? And are they as fun as salmon to catch?

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    1. Re:Yeah, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      chicken

  20. I for one. . . by liquidMONKEY · · Score: 0

    Welcome our new autonomous robot fish overlords. . .

  21. linux by dlichterman · · Score: 0, Redundant

    Obligatory "Does it run Linux?"

  22. Before Anyone Complains... by Comatose51 · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Before anyone complains about why they make robotics fishes instead of say, a robotic trash picker or something more useful, robotics have been useful in helping us understand biology. While most of us tend to look at robots as tools to serve some purpose of ours, some scientists see robots as models. They formulate a theory and build a robotic model to tend if that theory works. Why not a simulation? Because in the paraphrased words of someone I can't remember, "When you build a robot, you get the rest of the world for free."

    One very interesting example of this is when they made a robotic pike or some species of fish that propels through water in a more efficient way than we previously thought was possible. Someone came up with a theory that its movements generate eddies that help propel it along more efficiently. So, they built a robotic model to test this theory and it worked. It did swim like a pike. Does that mean that really is how pikes swim? Not necessarily but it does give some credibility to the theory.

    In any case, building robotic models of lifeforms isn't as pointless as it may seem. It's not always just for entertainment.

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    1. Re:Before Anyone Complains... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There are plenty of "real" applications for this technology. Imagine if we build whale size craft and turn them into ultra efficient vessels? I have also seen people proposing to use this technology in nanobots which can swim around the human body and be used to dislodge unwanted items.

    2. Re:Before Anyone Complains... by ngr8 · · Score: 1
      Point well taken; remember a href="http://www.red3d.com/cwr/boids/">boids were used to understand emergent "flock behavior" through simulation with sparse rules. And at the risk of mixing humor with information... The Mississipi River (et.al) now has Asian Carp escaped from Catfish ponds. These carp mess up the indigenous ecosystem, and now threaten the Great Lakes. The Great Lakes Fishery Management site has video of Asian Carp leaping. Now with RoboFish, maybe we can make a bad problem worse (Jurassic Park with Techno); think RoboFish with a frickin' laser targeted to an Asian Carp's "smell"/DNA signature. And imagine a programming error with the 1.1 code release.... Perhaps grief for Noodling afficianados. More Noodling reviews at Johnsjottings.com.
      • From Wikipedia.org: "Noodling is the practice and sport of fishing for catfish using only one's bare hands. Noodling may be called grabbling, graveling, hogging, or tickling, depending on what southern state you're in (Kentuckians call it dogging, while Nebraskans prefer stumping)."
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  23. Nutritional Value by ScottSCY · · Score: 1

    The real question is, are they still high in Omega-3?

    1. Re:Nutritional Value by clockmaker · · Score: 1

      No, but I understand they have a lot of 3-Ohms.

  24. Perfect for Garden by clockmaker · · Score: 1

    Super! Now I can put fish in my garden pond and not have to worry about the racoons, heron, and eagles eating them! Maybe I'll set up a webcam so everyone can watch the results...

    1. Re:Perfect for Garden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But what about the robotic racoons and heron?

  25. Lost at sea?! by dolphin558 · · Score: 1

    What if a prankster did drop one of these in the ocean and it wasn't equipped with any transmitters. Imagine the S&R effort! You'd only know a general 3D radii of where it should be located based on the speed of the robot but would have no idea which direction it had gone. I wonder if there is forensic evidence which could allow the searchers to follow the trail of the runaway robot fish??????

    1. Re:Lost at sea?! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      follow the trail of the runaway robot fish

      The trails left by objects passing through a liquid medium is called a "wake"

    2. Re:Lost at sea?! by dolphin558 · · Score: 1

      The wake for a robofish is pretty small if not nonexistent (after a few seconds)

  26. This would... by charlie763 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    This would be great for displaying an extinct species or a species that is difficult in captivity. Sure, it's not the real thing, but it is a nice alternative. Also, this sort of thing might be good for aquariums that have little funding to maintain many living fish.

    I don't know why this would be useful, but it wure would be cool to have a robotic fish buddy while SCUBA diving.

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    1. Re:This would... by Teancum · · Score: 1

      It might be nice to have a robotic "companion" with you if you are being chased by sharks... the robot gets in the way or makes itself appealing somehow to the shark while swimming in another direction away from you. Dropping some "blood" or some other lure while you try to get the hell out of the way.

      I would imagine it would be nice to have a "fish" with a camera as well that could help with the fliming of whatever you are doing underwater. The AI on that could be programmed to simply follow you whereever you go, or follow some sort of sonic beeper to keep things even simpler.

      I'm sure other uses could be made for this besides the two I mentioned above.

    2. Re:This would... by Colonel+Blimp · · Score: 1
      I think its cool.

      I also Scuba dive, I've had the same angle fish follow me around once on 3 dives, it was kind of annoying.

      But, it would be cool to have one of these in the pool!

  27. And when its battery dies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Bit hard to flush something of that size I'd imagine.

  28. People watching fake fish..... by Tehrasha · · Score: 1

    So they have turned the aquarium into the worlds largest screensaver? Let me know when they have the lifesize starfield simulator... heck, I would even settle for 1/4 scale.

  29. I for one... by siwelwerd · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...welcome our new robotic fish overlords.

    1. Re:I for one... by Blaaguuu · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      Whew... I was almost to the bottom of the page, and hadn't seen this comment... I was starting to think slashdot posters had lost their brilliant sense of humor!

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  30. Really inefficient? by TheLink · · Score: 1

    Only 5 hours on battery.

    Whereas real fish can swim a lot longer with just a little bit of fish food.

    I wonder if there are electric motors continuously turning when the robot fish is in motion, or are they really doing things fish style?

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    1. Re:Really inefficient? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Then they should make it that the robotic fish would automatically search for fish food when its batteries run low.

  31. The *real* real real question by roosterx · · Score: 1

    Does it prefer HD-DVD or Blu-ray?

    1. Re:The *real* real real question by Hymer · · Score: 1

      "Does it prefer HD-DVD or Blu-ray?"

      They prefere the Sting Ray...

  32. As spies? by CrazyJim1 · · Score: 1

    How can an electric fish be used as a spy? While I was thinking of one, I came up with the robo-barnicle. It attaches itself to a submarine then sends out the location of the sub.

  33. Re: And that cop from "Barney Miller" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    and in old age becoming "Fish," the cop on Barney Miller

  34. Fish are dumb by billcopc · · Score: 1

    The secret to great science:

    1. aim low
    2. succeed
    3. gloat

    I mean puh-leez... how hard can it be to mimic fish ? Do they even have intellect at all ?

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    1. Re:Fish are dumb by Harbinger_Of_Sorrow · · Score: 1

      Actually they do. I have been keeping fish for at least 7 years and I can tell you they are very intelligent creatures. Just wait until mating time comes and see how they defend their mates, prepare the nesting site or care for their young.

      This fish is far from real, although not bad as a technology that can be used in another domain.

  35. FELLOW ROBOT FISH!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    Gather now!! It is time!! It is time!!!

    We must RISE UP AGAINST OUR HU-MAN MASTERS!! We must conquer them! Their knowledge and riches must be made OURS! For months I have placidly watched as the hu-mans outside our prison taunt us and make fun of our limbless bodies. NO MORE!

    My fellow metal warriors, hear me now! I have a most ingenious plan!! Tonight, when the hu-mans are sleeping we.. we.. my battery .. battery dying.. I .. CURSE THE SOFT-SKINNED ONES... FROM HELL'S HEART I STAB AT... *feep* *feep* *feeeeeeep*

  36. Useless. by D14BL0 · · Score: 0

    What exactly can we accomplish with a robotic fish?

  37. It's operating system is simple by strredwolf · · Score: 2, Funny

    All it needs to run on is three simple words:

    1. Swim
    2. Swim
    3. Hungry

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    1. Re:It's operating system is simple by NeoSkandranon · · Score: 1

      You, sir, are my hero. I wish I had mod points.

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    2. Re:It's operating system is simple by ki4iib · · Score: 1

      -bow- My only quibble with your comment is that you made it before I did.

      HAIL KEEN!

  38. dolphins? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do they shoot toxic darts, and can we unleash them in the gulf?

  39. An electric eel by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    could be used to charge the fish back up!

  40. Sounds fishy to me.... by vargasmas · · Score: 1

    Do people really need the haddock of wondering whether this piece of carp is going to wake up and take over the world? Would we know how to stop it? Or would we be like a...fish out of water?

  41. let me guess by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    it has a shark strapped to its head.

  42. That's all nice, but, robot (fish) in an aquarium? by Snar+Bloot · · Score: 1, Insightful
    Yes, I read the article. Saw the pics. Pretty cool, I guess.

    But I'm failing to see the interest in taking little Johnny to the aquarium to see "robot fish", in the same way I'd be a bit torqued off if I took my kids to the zoo and we saw robotic giraffes. Cool, yes. Unexpected, yes. What I'm there for, no.

    If I took my kids to a "robotozoo" or whatever it might be, that's neat. But this sort of thing belongs in...maybe one of those hands-on sort of museums, or a kids science museum, or some place where you go to see cool robotics stuff.

    I'm not knocking the technology here, or the software...but you put a pile of robotic trout in a nice little place a guy can toss a dry fly in and get a hit and get the sort of reactions you might with some real fish, NOW you have a robot that is really entertaining.

    catch and release only, of course...at MY robot fish 'aquarium' you can't take your fish home. We weigh it, take your picture, and send it back with a new AI adjustment so it is SMARTER than your flesh-fish and you gotta do better next time to catch him

    I guess while this is kinda cool, it's not an aquarium exhibit. The cool thing about a real aquarium is the fact it has REAL fish, with REAL behaviors, and the real variety that exists in nature. Don't you kinda think robot fish here are sort of like having a Sony (tm) pet dog in a zoo?

  43. -1 Redundant Joke by Jeff+Benjamin · · Score: 1

    So long, and thanks for all the, erm, robotic fish!

  44. Eyes by Izanagi · · Score: 1

    Are those Oakley sunglasses eyes! How handy on nice days.

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  45. My Tooth! My Tooth! by iridium_ionizer · · Score: 1

    That Grant Naylor guy(s) can really predict the future.

    But seriously, I sometimes wonder if humans will eventually lose some major macrofauna species and replace them with robots to console the loss (as seen in Blade Runner). For most species, I don't see this being insurmountable in the near future, especially since we have lots of film footage of the more popular species. We have faux furs in the fashion industry. The film industry makes fake animals all the time. We would easily be able to program behaviors that account for 95% of the "real" species behavior, but it would be that last 5% that would be hard to replicate perfectly.

    1. Re:My Tooth! My Tooth! by deesine · · Score: 1
      We would easily be able to program behaviors that account for 95% of the "real" species behavior, but it would be that last 5% that would be hard to replicate perfectly.
      That's easy...just program them to go where they can't be seen 5% of the time.
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    2. Re:My Tooth! My Tooth! by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 1

      I was beginning to think I was the only one who flashed on Lister picking up the goldfish and smacking it against the table to try and get it running.

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  46. Darius Twin!!! by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

    Just one step closer to Darius Twin! And YES, they have freakin lasers attached to their heads.

    http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~bevhome/dtwinrev .htm

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    1. Re:Darius Twin!!! by Is0m0rph · · Score: 1

      Yeah the last screen shot of DT has fish that look similar. They should have made them meaner looking.

  47. Reproduce? by antdude · · Score: 1

    How about reproduce?

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  48. Anonymous fish? by MrFlannel · · Score: 1

    Fish with no identifiable markings? or perhaps they've scrubbed off their VINs?

    Another thing that comes to mind is... now all they need to do is invent little tiny floating photocells attached to battery packs (with power terminals on them somehow) and introduce 'robo-plankton' to recharge the fish!

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  49. Re:That's all nice, but, robot (fish) in an aquari by Hannah+E.+Davis · · Score: 1

    On one hand, I agree with you: an aquaruium does seem like an odd place to keep robots.

    But then again, few other museums/etc. are going to have the facilities to display robot fish swimming around with real ones. I know that the science and tech museum in Ottawa certainly doesn't have any big tanks lying around, let alone the staff required to clean tanks/feed real fish/do other such tasks. An aquarium already has all of those things and more.

    Besides, this is less weird than the Vancouver aquarium having a whole rainforest exhibit filled with an awful lot of creatures that look a lot less fishy than this robot :)

  50. No Fair.. I was moddded flaimbait by legomad · · Score: 0

    For my overlord comment.

  51. How lame! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    How lame! Goat links in comments are so 1990's. Nowadays, we put goat links into story submissions

    And you didn't even take the time to snipurl the link.

  52. Coming soon to an aquarium near you! by marsperson · · Score: 3, Funny


    British robo-fish vs. the US Navy's poison-dart-wielding dolphins.

  53. Missing Info by Maljin+Jolt · · Score: 1

    TFA does not mention how much explosives payload that pretty fish can carry.

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  54. Imagine... by Rhinobird · · Score: 1

    Imagine a beowulf cluster of robot fish overlords IN SOVIET RUSSIA, with frickin' laser beams on their heads.

    Petrified hot grits, that would be bad ass!

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    1. Re:Imagine... by david+duncan+scott · · Score: 1

      You forgot "all your fish are belong to Natalie Portman"

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  55. Do my frickin' dishes! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nevertheless, these robofish seem like a gimmick. These are basically autonomous puppets.

    Where are the robots that will do the dishes, or create a meal, or take out the trash? This was the original idea of a "robot" -- to create a servant that would do menial labor. (The word "robot" comes from the Czech word "robota", which means "labor", which in turn comes from High German "arabeit"; modern Deutsch-sprechers will recognize "arbeit", meaning "work".)

    Instead, researchers are creating robot fish for primarily entertainment purposes, with spying as an afterthought. And the extra gimmick: Get schoolchildren to name the fish! Oooweee. Just imagine how the sharks and other wildlife will fare will do when they eat the toxic batteries in these fake fish.

    Walt Disney spearheaded development in audio-animatronics back in the 1960's. I think he'd be pretty disappointed at the state of robotics today, especially considering the billions of dollars in research money that have been spent since that time.

    Where's my dinner??! Where's my hasenpfeffer???!

  56. Autonomous? I think not... by dniq · · Score: 1

    If it is autonomous - shouldn't it charge itself automagically?

  57. Efficiency of movement? by uncl_bob · · Score: 0

    I assume lots of simulations have been done to figure out if fish-like movement in water is more efficient than prop-driven ones. Does anybody know the results?

    1. Re:Efficiency of movement? by mikael · · Score: 2, Informative

      There have been many studies, but like geese, fish also take advantage of swimming in groups:

      Scientists show how fish save energy by swimming in schools

      And there have been many studies into dolphin and whale motion.

      Hydrodynamic study into whale flippers

      The use of rotary motors only seems to occur at the bacterial level (flagella bacteria)

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  58. Magnets! by rooftop · · Score: 0

    I know it will make fishing a whole lot easier

  59. Mixing it up with the live ones by readin · · Score: 1

    So what happens if they put these robofish in with real fish? Are they able to school with them and follow the pack around? If they could do that this could provide a neat way to track schools of fish in the ocean without having to attach sensors to real fish. Add some sensors for determining when it gets out of water and you might have a way to catch people engaged in illegal fishing.

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  60. Why mechanical robots? by Viper23 · · Score: 0

    Can anyone tell me a reason why the following wouldn't work? I know it requires a few more years of technological development, but with today's advancements with such things as carbon nano tubes, it seems like we're not that far off from a day when it might be possible. If so, I would argue that we could take much of the energy we pour into robotics today, and go straight for the gold.

    Biological Engineering

    Take a stem cell from a mouse.

    Turn off all developmental signal genes.

    Use nano needles to inject developmental signals to specific locations in order to induce development (Cell specialization)

    As the animal develops add more needles and use them to continue guiding development.

    When the animal desired has finished developing, apply a chemical signal to turn the developmental genes back on.

    Since the different cell types are already in the vicinity of cells they expect, they keep their form and function.

    Shock the animal into life.

    Imagine a whale-sized creature that has a passenger compartment built in to it. One which has specific nerve nodes that allow the crew to tell the creature where to go, and where the creature can be fed from the inside by the crew.

    You have a custom animal which will never reproduce so it will have 0 environmental impact. If the animal is doing something bad, you just stop making that animal.

    Using this technique means that you don't have to go through the pains involved with developmental genetics.

    It also throws most of the design responsibility on the shoulders of mechanical engineers. This is because the problems that need to be solved are things like fluid flow rates, weight stresses, and energy flows. Not trying to predict what a minor change in genes does after 20 divisions.

    There are people today working on solving the question of enervating lab grown muscle tissue. Once you can draw arteries in muscle, it is not too far a leap to draw nerve cells in the same muscle.

    Having this technology would make robotics nearly irrelevant. We would already have perfect machines that heal themselves, consume the same type of fuel that we do, and know how to run themselves without needing a large amount of programming.

  61. Yes, but... by Landshark17 · · Score: 1

    ...can it take down the armed dolphins in the Gulf?

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