I was reading this thread a week late but was hoping that someone would counter the claim that no changes were made. Thank you for trying to stomp out the little fire of un-truth in that post.
They had a fairly humorous montage of this match inter-cut with sports footage last night. No idea if anyone would be able to see it again but I found it amusing.
Thanks for the info. I purchased lifetime subscriptions for both of my units long enough ago that I am past the break-even point compared to their repetive billed approach.
I wouldn't mind trying this type of technique with an additional older unit that I might pick up used. It would serve me well while my current pair could be used my someone else in my family. I will check out the guidekit.
I would not recommend that anyone get the lifetime service agreement at this time.
I wish you would have given us a little insight as to the specific ways that you find Solaris superior. I am not doubting you. I will probably get Solaris and play with it soon. It is just that as I do so (once again after many years, but not on a x86 platform), I would like to have in mind other's opinions of the areas where it offers more...
It is not clear to me if you have had any "hands on" time with a Tivo. I have two units. If the programming service becomes unavailable I would suspect that the hacker community will respond rather strongly. I have not yet checked to see if there has been any activity in this area on the forums. As I recall, most forums explicitly did not delve into this type of subject matter. Most want Tivo to survive.....
However it seems very clear that Tivo uses IP to access the schedule (and time) service. By that I mean Internet Protocol, not Intellectual Property although they might like to claim the latter. There are several observations that illuminate the use of IP. Specifically, one can add an ethernet card and successfully download through a shared high speed internet connection. Also the phone number used here in the Kansas City area is one I recognize as an Internet dialup number that I used prior to having high speed service available.
While many would disdain cutting into Tivo revenue stream, any abandonment of customers would definitly change the landscape. Others would help. I would help.
It has been some time since I did the setup on my Tivos but out of the box the unit calls a toll free number after requesting your postal code (ZIP code here in the US). At least I think it was the postal code. Anyway after calling the toll free number, it then presents you with a list of choices for which cable or broadcast channel lineups you might have.
This process could be fairly easily subverted. At most, simply feeding a dial tone into the modem should satisfy its needs prior to dialing. Then manual dialing could be done instead to a different number that starts the whole process from an independent service.
Or at least this particular usage of the compound "post-watershed" I was unfamiliar with this compound phrase as well and google provided a fairly low (750) set of matches, most referring to broadcast regulations in the UK, the rest actual watersheds in the sense that I did recogize. I can only speculate but...
A geographic watershed is a region that drains to a single river/lake etc. It is bounded by a line of high ground that differentiates it from the surrounding other watershed areas.
The phrase "watershed event" is used to denote a particular point at which things become easier - i.e. "The advent of peer-to-peer filesharing was a watershed devent for the distribution of music".:-)
So it would seem that this usage of watershed is referring to a point of demarcation -- in this case a time of day.
We are separated by a common language. Sometime I should put my experience on using a Haynes automotive service manual to pull an engine. Language provided an amusing mis-step.
So I conclude, perhaps incorrectly, that is the point after which programming goes downhill.
Are you really concerned about the amount of water coming out of the as yet non-viable hydorgen vehicles? You might want ot check your expectations for volume. Compared to a modest sprinkle of a rainstorm it would be nothing.
My own concern with the boosterism for a "hydrogen economy" is, that for most of the public audience, there is no consideration as to how the hydrogen will be generated in a usable form. Away from mainstream media we see more attention being paid to non-fossil fuel sources of the primary energy.
Been doing a lot of meta mods lately. Hope I get the one that put you as off topic as I disagree. Perhaps the moderation was mistaken. I got a well deserved meta mod myself recently that I made for someone's post off topic when it was humorous. I think that I did not catch that the pulldown changed when I tried to scroll down with the wheel mouse.
Anyway I found your post funny and others have put it to +2. Someone should work up a set of explanations for the letter modifiers, 'a' for almost, b for basic, etc.
Although the odds are not good anyway, I probably won't get to meta-mod this because I posted.
Switches can be 'programmed' to do just about anything with the input digits. At one time, these additional digits were of some use in hacking. Nowadays, I don't think there is much that can be done with them. Many modems are able to produce these tones in their dialing strings. Just now I used a Zoom 56K external modem to do the command "ATDT3abcd" and heard five distinct tones as expected. I also heard the normal "We're sorry your call cannot be completed as dialed" recording. Voice modems can generally detect and report these digits.
As far as being confusing, the bigger problem is that we cannot introduce such expansion the digits being utilized because of the extremely large number of phones already deployed. It would result in phone numbers that could not be called by anyone with a consumer phone made today. There would be some advantages to that too....:-)
Another major problem that will prevent such expansion is the number of software systems and devices that have been developed and deployed based on the assumption that the dialed digits are from a ten character set.
I have worked in the Telco industry since 1986. When you start collecting call records by the millions, there are inevitably some that are erroneously recorded incorrectly. You would be amazed at the mental blocks some people have when encountering data that is outside the norm of what they expect.
The DTMF signalling standard, known to most as TouchTone, simultaneously transmits two pure sine wave frequencies for each digit. One frequency for row and one for column. The first generation of phones to offer keypads of this sort used mechanical selection to pick the two oscillators -- each button moved two slides when pressed. One slide was vertical and the other horizontal and they each simply actuated a switch for the frequency associated with the particular row and column. Nowadays this is all done on a chip.
There is (and has always been) a fourth column frequency that is not implemented on cosumer phones. The digits associated with it are A, B, C & D.
There is another analog, in-band signalling system that uses more frequencies but only one at a time. It is called MultiFrequency singalling. MF is mainly used on trunks between switches. Considerable switching information is propagated outside of the actual channel being negociated in a separate digital network.
So A, B C & D have been possible all along, did you feel particularly confused?
One could only hope that such a travesty would invalidate the legal equivalent of toilet paper.
Upon further thought, I think that we need to come up with some other name, something derogatory, which will all understand to mean the same thing. They may be able to trademark their abbreviation but they cannot force others to use it.
Perhaps we could use the ROT13 text, which I think would be CPV. We could say that CPV stood for "Cohen's Perverted Values" or anything else that fit.
Regardless of whether ROT13 was used, once we had an alternative, we could put up a webserver that offered 'certifications' of other manufacturer's product to this new bus 'standard'. This process would consist of only a rubber stamp. Then we could inundate our favorite manufacturers, who indirectly are the PCI-SIG by virtue of their support, with emails and other annoyances demanding compatibility
This type of interference would cost the manufacturers money and time. Any mention of the Bus Who's Name Shall Not Be Said could be changed in free software source code.
Surely that would cause "consumer confusion" of a far greater degree. I suspect that the motive may well be more sinister -- preventing the distribution of the information in the first place.
IBM, as a member and Jim's evident employer, has a chance to take the high ground in both a moral and public relations sense. By hosting the list, the would win my favor, for what its worth.
I am glad that I am not so hungry as to have to prostitute myself to such a degree as sign my name to such crap.
Jim must act quickly to claim the letters J I M as his own Intellectual property. Then we can find someone named Jim associated with the PCI trade group and countersue.
I certainly was glad that Tivo's were Linux-based. This leads to the possibility of significant hacking. The well developed hacker community for Tivo saved my entire investment in one of my two units.
When a replacement unit that they sent me fell on its ass outside of the 90 days of wartantee they offer, I was able to return it to operation, better than before. Some day I will write up the whole sordid story.
There is a secondary value to getting the Linux OS used in such an embedded fashion, the OS will become more accepted by those who become aware of the OS after the purchase (although I would be very surprised if this device reaches even a fraction of the Tivo user base size).
Anyway, although you may not care that a particular device such as this audio server runs Linux, others certainly do. While we differ in the value of this news item, I think that you and I would find condsiderable common ground in our view of the 800 lb gorilla, M$.
From the article, (in the first sentences, no less):
The Middletown-based company will introduce a satellite TV antenna that transmits movies, sports and news programming to sport utility vehicles (SUV), minivans, and luxury automobiles equipped with backseat entertainment systems.
The last time I checked, CNN is still in the broadcasting business. They even are reported to have some familiarity with satellites. You would think they would know that this is a receiver and not a transmitting antenna.
In an unexpected developement, the rash of people trying this have depleted the the environment of the element Formatium, normally a rare gas.
Professor Lirpa, of Lirpa Labs, describe the current shortage as not having much environmental impact. "It should only affect hard drive manufacturers. They consume the free supply in the normal course of manufacture. Then once the new drives are used, the Formatium is released back into the atmosphere in it gaseous form. This is why disk drive enclosures have those little vent holes."
He continued, "Don't ever take a virgin drive, cover the hole and then install an OS. You risk explosion. Particularly if you use a bloated commercial OS. One commercial OS actually renamed itself in an attempt to forestall disaster by reminder. You really should open some windows."
There is some speculation that the upcoming shortage was expected by the drive manufacturers, leading them to reduce the period of warranties they offer on newer products.
I don't watch this but wasn't the previous/. entry a rumor that it was being continued? And now it is being further confirmed? Where's the false rumor?
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At first I thought it was a sick reference to Phil...
I was reading this thread a week late but was hoping that someone would counter the claim that no changes were made. Thank you for trying to stomp out the little fire of un-truth in that post.
They had a fairly humorous montage of this match inter-cut with sports footage last night. No idea if anyone would be able to see it again but I found it amusing.
Can anyone list off the remaining manufacturers in this market? How are they doing?
Would he insist on calling it a GUN/Linux kernel?
I wouldn't mind trying this type of technique with an additional older unit that I might pick up used. It would serve me well while my current pair could be used my someone else in my family. I will check out the guidekit.
I would not recommend that anyone get the lifetime service agreement at this time.
I wish you would have given us a little insight as to the specific ways that you find Solaris superior. I am not doubting you. I will probably get Solaris and play with it soon. It is just that as I do so (once again after many years, but not on a x86 platform), I would like to have in mind other's opinions of the areas where it offers more...
However it seems very clear that Tivo uses IP to access the schedule (and time) service. By that I mean Internet Protocol, not Intellectual Property although they might like to claim the latter. There are several observations that illuminate the use of IP. Specifically, one can add an ethernet card and successfully download through a shared high speed internet connection. Also the phone number used here in the Kansas City area is one I recognize as an Internet dialup number that I used prior to having high speed service available.
While many would disdain cutting into Tivo revenue stream, any abandonment of customers would definitly change the landscape. Others would help. I would help.
It has been some time since I did the setup on my Tivos but out of the box the unit calls a toll free number after requesting your postal code (ZIP code here in the US). At least I think it was the postal code. Anyway after calling the toll free number, it then presents you with a list of choices for which cable or broadcast channel lineups you might have.
This process could be fairly easily subverted. At most, simply feeding a dial tone into the modem should satisfy its needs prior to dialing. Then manual dialing could be done instead to a different number that starts the whole process from an independent service.
A geographic watershed is a region that drains to a single river/lake etc. It is bounded by a line of high ground that differentiates it from the surrounding other watershed areas.
The phrase "watershed event" is used to denote a particular point at which things become easier - i.e. "The advent of peer-to-peer filesharing was a watershed devent for the distribution of music". :-)
So it would seem that this usage of watershed is referring to a point of demarcation -- in this case a time of day.
We are separated by a common language. Sometime I should put my experience on using a Haynes automotive service manual to pull an engine. Language provided an amusing mis-step.
So I conclude, perhaps incorrectly, that is the point after which programming goes downhill.
He could have not published publically......
My own concern with the boosterism for a "hydrogen economy" is, that for most of the public audience, there is no consideration as to how the hydrogen will be generated in a usable form. Away from mainstream media we see more attention being paid to non-fossil fuel sources of the primary energy.
Anyway I found your post funny and others have put it to +2. Someone should work up a set of explanations for the letter modifiers, 'a' for almost, b for basic, etc.
Although the odds are not good anyway, I probably won't get to meta-mod this because I posted.
As far as being confusing, the bigger problem is that we cannot introduce such expansion the digits being utilized because of the extremely large number of phones already deployed. It would result in phone numbers that could not be called by anyone with a consumer phone made today. There would be some advantages to that too.... :-)
Another major problem that will prevent such expansion is the number of software systems and devices that have been developed and deployed based on the assumption that the dialed digits are from a ten character set.
I have worked in the Telco industry since 1986. When you start collecting call records by the millions, there are inevitably some that are erroneously recorded incorrectly. You would be amazed at the mental blocks some people have when encountering data that is outside the norm of what they expect.
There is (and has always been) a fourth column frequency that is not implemented on cosumer phones. The digits associated with it are A, B, C & D.
There is another analog, in-band signalling system that uses more frequencies but only one at a time. It is called MultiFrequency singalling. MF is mainly used on trunks between switches. Considerable switching information is propagated outside of the actual channel being negociated in a separate digital network.
So A, B C & D have been possible all along, did you feel particularly confused?
Did the hamster's name rhyme with 'weasel'?
Upon further thought, I think that we need to come up with some other name, something derogatory, which will all understand to mean the same thing. They may be able to trademark their abbreviation but they cannot force others to use it.
Perhaps we could use the ROT13 text, which I think would be CPV. We could say that CPV stood for "Cohen's Perverted Values" or anything else that fit.
Regardless of whether ROT13 was used, once we had an alternative, we could put up a webserver that offered 'certifications' of other manufacturer's product to this new bus 'standard'. This process would consist of only a rubber stamp. Then we could inundate our favorite manufacturers, who indirectly are the PCI-SIG by virtue of their support, with emails and other annoyances demanding compatibility
This type of interference would cost the manufacturers money and time. Any mention of the Bus Who's Name Shall Not Be Said could be changed in free software source code.
Surely that would cause "consumer confusion" of a far greater degree. I suspect that the motive may well be more sinister -- preventing the distribution of the information in the first place.
IBM, as a member and Jim's evident employer, has a chance to take the high ground in both a moral and public relations sense. By hosting the list, the would win my favor, for what its worth.
I am glad that I am not so hungry as to have to prostitute myself to such a degree as sign my name to such crap.
Jim must act quickly to claim the letters J I M as his own Intellectual property. Then we can find someone named Jim associated with the PCI trade group and countersue.
When a replacement unit that they sent me fell on its ass outside of the 90 days of wartantee they offer, I was able to return it to operation, better than before. Some day I will write up the whole sordid story.
There is a secondary value to getting the Linux OS used in such an embedded fashion, the OS will become more accepted by those who become aware of the OS after the purchase (although I would be very surprised if this device reaches even a fraction of the Tivo user base size).
Anyway, although you may not care that a particular device such as this audio server runs Linux, others certainly do. While we differ in the value of this news item, I think that you and I would find condsiderable common ground in our view of the 800 lb gorilla, M$.
Surprised you didn't gig him for KM instead of km. Picky, picky.
They keep me in the dark about these things :-)
Professor Lirpa, of Lirpa Labs, describe the current shortage as not having much environmental impact. "It should only affect hard drive manufacturers. They consume the free supply in the normal course of manufacture. Then once the new drives are used, the Formatium is released back into the atmosphere in it gaseous form. This is why disk drive enclosures have those little vent holes."
He continued, "Don't ever take a virgin drive, cover the hole and then install an OS. You risk explosion. Particularly if you use a bloated commercial OS. One commercial OS actually renamed itself in an attempt to forestall disaster by reminder. You really should open some windows."
There is some speculation that the upcoming shortage was expected by the drive manufacturers, leading them to reduce the period of warranties they offer on newer products.
What the hell indeed!
I don't watch this but wasn't the previous /. entry a rumor that it was being continued? And now it is being further confirmed? Where's the false rumor?
I do that. I have a picture of the bottom of my mouse.