Have you ever visited a prison? I have, as a pastor, and I think it's a horrible place I would never want to have to live. For every "country club", Federal, minimum security prison, there are ten state-rub hell-holes perpetuating a cycle of misery that started for African American men (I'm white, BTW) generations ago. This is tolerated because the "law and order" types like you don't actually see how the justice system actually works.
No time to respond in depth, but it's hardly true that Paul invented the notion of people going to hell! In fact, so far as I recall, hell (Greek Gehenna) isn't even mentioned in the Pauline letters! You've been badly misinformed.
Disclaimer: I am a theologian. Or, at least, I have a Ph.D. in New Testament and was an ordained minister and pastor in the Southern Baptist Convention (although I no longer affiliate with them.) I don't know John Haught, nor have I read any of his books that I can recall, because at this point the whole evolution debate bores me.
I would suggest two alternative possibilities to the "theologian lost and was scared" rationale.
The first may simply be that he said something that, upon reflection, he wished he hadn't, thought was poorly phrased, or otherwise didn't want getting out there. Theologians, particularly Catholic theologians, are in an odd position. Their personal and private opinion may not always line up with the official position of the church. For a Catholic theologian, and particularly an American Catholic theologian, this is quite common when looking at social issues -- divorce and remarriage, women in ministry, etc. However, if they explicitly, publicly state that they don't agree with the teaching of the church, they can sometimes lose their jobs and/or the ability to publish with Catholic publishers and/or permission to publish (if they're a priest or other clergy.) I'm just speculating here, but it may well be the cause that John Haught said something under pressure that didn't accord with the teaching of the Catholic Church, and now he doesn't want it getting outthere.
Alternatively... reading this guy's blog, frankly he strikes me as more than a little childish (like most militant atheists -- the more militant, the more childish.) As a publishing theologian, your stock in trade is your reputation for sustained, reasoned discourse on theological topics. You don't advance that reputation by slapping at gnats. This is, incidentally, why things like the Davinci Code tend to get ignored -- not because they're credible, but precisely because they're too absured to bother with.
I'm in training the past week or so with some not so cery technical people. All if them but me have Android, but today they were all talking about how they never bought apps and never used the smart-phone features. From what I can tell, the "I" device app market us still far ahead if droid, no matter how many devices they sell.
Also, you can call me a fan-boi all you like, but I actually had a droid for a while (2 separate droits actually) and hated the platform even more than I hated Apples censorship of religious speech by Exodus International. Seems to me that there are many more religious apple hatred rubbing Android than vice versa at this point.
I disagree. I see several good reasons for Slashdot to post mainstream news and wish they would do more of it. First, slashdot has a unique format. Second, it has a unique community, whose comments on mainstream news I often find insightful (particularly after they're run through the gauntlet if slashdots unique moderation system.). Third, it raises attention to mainstream stories I might otherwise have missed. If you don't like it, just gointo your preferences and filter your categories appropriately.
The data for the study came from x.509 certificate revocations. Do you really want to punish the CAs that did the right thing and filled out the certificate revocation correctly? That will just encourage fraud.
iPhone and the Prada really don't really look all that much alike to me? I mean, they both have touch screens with keypads on them to dial numbers, but... beyond that, there's no great similarity.
The story may be different in very large cities, and urban cores. I wouldn't know because I've never lived in one. It may also be different if your tastes in books aren't quite so esoteric as mine. The reality, for me, today, is Amazon. But, before Amazon came along, Barnes and Noble was a revelation because, unlike the "quality" local bookstore, they could and would actually order obscure titles in a reasonable period of time. Since then, I've moved to a college town, and I tend to go to the university bookstore that can handle my tastes just fine as well. But I still tend to go to Amazon because they are much faster and much cheaper.
the shoddy big-chain bookstores that put the quality local bookstores out of business.
You mean the "shoddy" Barnes and Noble that had 100,000 books as compared to the "quality" local bookstore that had 10,000? Or was it that the "shoddy" Barnes & Noble could get me the book they didn't have in two days, but it took the "quality" local bookstore two weeks? Or was it that the "shoddy" Barnes and Noble sold Christian bestsellers at 10-20% below cover price, while the "quality" local Christian bookstore marked them up above cover price? Or the "shoddy" B&N database that let them find just about any book, however obscure, foreign or domestic, and how long it would take them to get it, but the "quality" local bookstore that often just couldn't or wouldn't get the book I wanted?
Thanks for clarifying.
There were and are many good reasons for supporting your local booksellers. But, generally, superior quality isn't one of them.
The DA illegally seized these emails, right? And prior to that illegal seuzure they were the privately held information of Gizmodo, right? So... he only knows about them because the law was broken, and now he's spewing their contents all over the press?
If this doesn't violate some ethical standard, it should. I'd file an ethics complaint.
We already know that excessive pauses in acting predict stupid commercials for Internet Startups and really bad science fiction. Damn... You... Khhaaaaannnn!!!!
Don't just throw him into a standard classroom with average students and assume that "socialization" will just happen. It won't -- you'll just crush the kid.
This. Whether or not the kid is actually on the spectrum, his (literally) prodigious ability to concentrate and absorb information and unusual interests will tend to cause him to have many of the same problems as an Aspergers syndrome kid. He needs social skills training. Regarding academics, just get him a library card and space in a well stocked college lab, he's already ahead of most of us anyway. Source: IQ 160+.
Oh yeah, and by the way... this shows once again that RMS has no class. This is like Fred Phelps and the scum from Westboro Baptist Church who are protesting at Jobs' funeral -- RMS is mostly just doing this for publicity. Someone's death is not an occasion for advancing ideology. The classy thing to do would be to find things that Jobs did that you approved of and save the ideological rant for another day!
What's Jobs guilty of? Making products that people want to buy, at prices they want to pay. Leading a company (or really a bunch of companies) that did some outstanding engineering that led to some incredible products that people really want to buy at prices that were on the high side, but people still willingly paid them. You (and the free software movement in general), with the help of the Unholy St. IGNUcius, of the Church of Emacs, are welcome to try to produce a product that people like better. However, if Emacs is any indication, I think you have a ways to go.
ORLY? Live Upgrade. It has its issues, but so far I've seen nothing close to it in the Linux world. When doing a big yum update, one has to cross fingers and hope everything still works afterwards, as there's no going back.
Running LiveUpgrade in a large-scale production environment is kind of like baby-sitting someone else's four-year-old. When everything's going well you say to yourself, "wow, this is pretty nice! Maybe I'll even have one of these of my own someday!" Then the four-year-old has a meltdown, and you try to call his parents and they don't answer the phone and you're left holding the bag.
Same deal with LiveUpgrade. When it works, great. When it doesn't work, heaven help you, because Oracle can't/won't fix it or give you any reasonable support in any reasonable period of time. Instead, they'll tell you to apply the latest LU patch (to your production ABE, mind you, which was supposed to be the very thing you were avoiding with LU.) This will very likely have prerequisite patches (e.g. the cpio patch, which requires the kernel patch) which will require a reboot of the server, causing the very outage you were trying to avoid in the first place. But what can you do? And then, when you get done applying the patch, guess what?
The problem isn't fixed
So Oracle bumps you up to the LU engineering team, who get back to you two-weeks later, who say, "Oh yeah, we knew about that bug, it's scheduled to be fixed in version 'blah blah' to be released in 2015." In disgust, you w4rite your own version of LU using ufsdump and/or ZFS features. Oddly enough, your two days worth of scripting/hacking seem to work better than the supported Oracle product.
Other than wanboot only working on (newer) SPARC systems and not x86/x64, what's so awful about jumpstart/wanboot? So far I've seen no amazing capability differences between jumpstart and kickstart. Sure, the latter is convenient in that it can use HTTP instead of NFS, but that's not earthshattering. Kickstart, OTOH, has proven to be a pain in that it doesn't install 32-bit libs on 64-bit systems without hackery or enumeration of every single affected package -- at least, on RHEL 6.1.
Really? Really? I'm not much familiar with Kickstart (different guy does that) but... the amount of coding and hacking required to make wanboot/jumpstart work for a production environment with a lot of different server types is just ridiculous! Then there's having to maintain different FLARs for ZFS and UFS builds, having to maintain both Jumpstart and Wanboot (Jumpstart to build the FLARs and Wanboot to install the boxes with the FLARs once you've built them), the awkwardness of adding packages to the build after the FLAR is laid down... I could go on, but I won't.
I counter that Linux systems *still* don't have a decent volume manager.
For the price, Solaris really needs to compete with AIX/HP-UX, which both have had a decent volume manager out of the box for a long time. Instead, on Solaris you almost have to buy Veritas.
Are you a web hosting provider? That's the only scenario that I can see where virtualization is truly crucial and not just the buzzword-du-jour, like thin clients were a while back. As for admins/server, my experience has been quite the opposite. Solaris by and large just works.
Virtualization isn't just a buzzword. It's a way to reduce costs, and the company that I work for is pushing for it hard. It looks really bad when the AIX guys get 10:1, the HP guys get 10:1, the VMWare guys get at least 20:1 (depending on loads with ESX, which is an awesome product), and we're doing 4:1 because of all the implementation detail issues with zones/ldoms and the lack of good supporting tools (we're having to write our own in many cases.)
And, yes, Solaris by-and-large just works. Until you have to patch. Or deal with zones. Or deal
Yeah, Solaris has some pretty awesome features, but at the end of the day all that may be irrelevant in the face of Market Pressures. Sun for many years shot themselves in the foot by failing to deliver useful tools for things like patching/updating, mass installation of Solaris servers (yes, there is jumpstart/wanboot, but it is clearly deficient), and failing to deliver a decent native volume manager (ZFS) until Too Late, and then not having it support root filesystems until Way Too Late.
The reality of Solaris is that there are all these features that look awesome in theory, until you actually have to implement them and discover the practical implications. Take Zones. Zone sounds great, in theory. But, ever tried to patch a server with zones? It's a nightmare. And heaven help you if you actually have a server with zones from multiple, different apps and you need to get outage windows from all the different app groups in order to patch. Or LDoms. Again, they sound awesome. That is, until you realize that there are no tools to manage migrations when a server goes down hard (the most common case for which you would want to do a migration!) So, you end up having to write a bunch of scripts to duplicate LDom xml files etc. to do this, because Sun/Oracle didn't really think through how their technology would be used in a real environment. I also use AIX virtualization technology, and it's much better, and VMWare (which is what we use for Linux servers) blows them both out of the water.
Things like this are why a lot of major companies, including the one I work at, are leaving Solaris as fast as they can. The reality is that it takes twice as many SA's per server on Solaris as it does for any other platform, we have lower virtualization densities, and it therefore costs a lot more money to run. For the kind of money we're talking about, we can deal with a few echoes in the interface for SAN's.
I have a bill here from LabCorp. Price before insurance: $327.60 (for some routine bloodwork.) Price after insurance "adjustments": $14.88.
So it's not just that they overcharge, it's that they deliberately overcharge the uninsured who have no idea what anything should cost.
Thanks for drawing the (proper) distinction between "intelligent design" and "creationism." There is a huge difference in theory, although it's been obscured as a lot of creationists have called themselves "intelligent design" advocates in an attempt to find legitimacy. Having read the work of (for example) Behe and Dembski, I think that ID is a legitimate scientific point of view, although I think it's probably ultimately incorrect.
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Have you ever visited a prison? I have, as a pastor, and I think it's a horrible place I would never want to have to live. For every "country club", Federal, minimum security prison, there are ten state-rub hell-holes perpetuating a cycle of misery that started for African American men (I'm white, BTW) generations ago. This is tolerated because the "law and order" types like you don't actually see how the justice system actually works.
No time to respond in depth, but it's hardly true that Paul invented the notion of people going to hell! In fact, so far as I recall, hell (Greek Gehenna) isn't even mentioned in the Pauline letters! You've been badly misinformed.
Might want to go back and read it again, more carefully. Consult a good commentary if you're confused.
Not to spoil your laugh with facts, but Rabel isn't the theologian, he's the administrator at university of Kentucky.
Disclaimer: I am a theologian. Or, at least, I have a Ph.D. in New Testament and was an ordained minister and pastor in the Southern Baptist Convention (although I no longer affiliate with them.) I don't know John Haught, nor have I read any of his books that I can recall, because at this point the whole evolution debate bores me.
I would suggest two alternative possibilities to the "theologian lost and was scared" rationale.
The first may simply be that he said something that, upon reflection, he wished he hadn't, thought was poorly phrased, or otherwise didn't want getting out there. Theologians, particularly Catholic theologians, are in an odd position. Their personal and private opinion may not always line up with the official position of the church. For a Catholic theologian, and particularly an American Catholic theologian, this is quite common when looking at social issues -- divorce and remarriage, women in ministry, etc. However, if they explicitly, publicly state that they don't agree with the teaching of the church, they can sometimes lose their jobs and/or the ability to publish with Catholic publishers and/or permission to publish (if they're a priest or other clergy.) I'm just speculating here, but it may well be the cause that John Haught said something under pressure that didn't accord with the teaching of the Catholic Church, and now he doesn't want it getting outthere.
Alternatively... reading this guy's blog, frankly he strikes me as more than a little childish (like most militant atheists -- the more militant, the more childish.) As a publishing theologian, your stock in trade is your reputation for sustained, reasoned discourse on theological topics. You don't advance that reputation by slapping at gnats. This is, incidentally, why things like the Davinci Code tend to get ignored -- not because they're credible, but precisely because they're too absured to bother with.
I'm in training the past week or so with some not so cery technical people. All if them but me have Android, but today they were all talking about how they never bought apps and never used the smart-phone features. From what I can tell, the "I" device app market us still far ahead if droid, no matter how many devices they sell. Also, you can call me a fan-boi all you like, but I actually had a droid for a while (2 separate droits actually) and hated the platform even more than I hated Apples censorship of religious speech by Exodus International. Seems to me that there are many more religious apple hatred rubbing Android than vice versa at this point.
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See parent for an example of why Slashdot needs a "unique moderation system."
I disagree. I see several good reasons for Slashdot to post mainstream news and wish they would do more of it. First, slashdot has a unique format. Second, it has a unique community, whose comments on mainstream news I often find insightful (particularly after they're run through the gauntlet if slashdots unique moderation system.). Third, it raises attention to mainstream stories I might otherwise have missed. If you don't like it, just gointo your preferences and filter your categories appropriately.
The data for the study came from x.509 certificate revocations. Do you really want to punish the CAs that did the right thing and filled out the certificate revocation correctly? That will just encourage fraud.
iPhone and the Prada really don't really look all that much alike to me? I mean, they both have touch screens with keypads on them to dial numbers, but ... beyond that, there's no great similarity.
The story may be different in very large cities, and urban cores. I wouldn't know because I've never lived in one. It may also be different if your tastes in books aren't quite so esoteric as mine. The reality, for me, today, is Amazon. But, before Amazon came along, Barnes and Noble was a revelation because, unlike the "quality" local bookstore, they could and would actually order obscure titles in a reasonable period of time. Since then, I've moved to a college town, and I tend to go to the university bookstore that can handle my tastes just fine as well. But I still tend to go to Amazon because they are much faster and much cheaper.
You mean the "shoddy" Barnes and Noble that had 100,000 books as compared to the "quality" local bookstore that had 10,000? Or was it that the "shoddy" Barnes & Noble could get me the book they didn't have in two days, but it took the "quality" local bookstore two weeks? Or was it that the "shoddy" Barnes and Noble sold Christian bestsellers at 10-20% below cover price, while the "quality" local Christian bookstore marked them up above cover price? Or the "shoddy" B&N database that let them find just about any book, however obscure, foreign or domestic, and how long it would take them to get it, but the "quality" local bookstore that often just couldn't or wouldn't get the book I wanted?
Thanks for clarifying.
There were and are many good reasons for supporting your local booksellers. But, generally, superior quality isn't one of them.
The DA illegally seized these emails, right? And prior to that illegal seuzure they were the privately held information of Gizmodo, right? So... he only knows about them because the law was broken, and now he's spewing their contents all over the press? If this doesn't violate some ethical standard, it should. I'd file an ethics complaint.
We already know that excessive pauses in acting predict stupid commercials for Internet Startups and really bad science fiction. Damn... You... Khhaaaaannnn!!!!
Don't just throw him into a standard classroom with average students and assume that "socialization" will just happen. It won't -- you'll just crush the kid.
This. Whether or not the kid is actually on the spectrum, his (literally) prodigious ability to concentrate and absorb information and unusual interests will tend to cause him to have many of the same problems as an Aspergers syndrome kid. He needs social skills training. Regarding academics, just get him a library card and space in a well stocked college lab, he's already ahead of most of us anyway. Source: IQ 160+.
Oh yeah, and by the way... this shows once again that RMS has no class. This is like Fred Phelps and the scum from Westboro Baptist Church who are protesting at Jobs' funeral -- RMS is mostly just doing this for publicity. Someone's death is not an occasion for advancing ideology. The classy thing to do would be to find things that Jobs did that you approved of and save the ideological rant for another day!
What's Jobs guilty of? Making products that people want to buy, at prices they want to pay. Leading a company (or really a bunch of companies) that did some outstanding engineering that led to some incredible products that people really want to buy at prices that were on the high side, but people still willingly paid them. You (and the free software movement in general), with the help of the Unholy St. IGNUcius, of the Church of Emacs, are welcome to try to produce a product that people like better. However, if Emacs is any indication, I think you have a ways to go.
Running LiveUpgrade in a large-scale production environment is kind of like baby-sitting someone else's four-year-old. When everything's going well you say to yourself, "wow, this is pretty nice! Maybe I'll even have one of these of my own someday!" Then the four-year-old has a meltdown, and you try to call his parents and they don't answer the phone and you're left holding the bag.
Same deal with LiveUpgrade. When it works, great. When it doesn't work, heaven help you, because Oracle can't/won't fix it or give you any reasonable support in any reasonable period of time. Instead, they'll tell you to apply the latest LU patch (to your production ABE, mind you, which was supposed to be the very thing you were avoiding with LU.) This will very likely have prerequisite patches (e.g. the cpio patch, which requires the kernel patch) which will require a reboot of the server, causing the very outage you were trying to avoid in the first place. But what can you do? And then, when you get done applying the patch, guess what?
The problem isn't fixed
So Oracle bumps you up to the LU engineering team, who get back to you two-weeks later, who say, "Oh yeah, we knew about that bug, it's scheduled to be fixed in version 'blah blah' to be released in 2015." In disgust, you w4rite your own version of LU using ufsdump and/or ZFS features. Oddly enough, your two days worth of scripting/hacking seem to work better than the supported Oracle product.
Really? Really? I'm not much familiar with Kickstart (different guy does that) but... the amount of coding and hacking required to make wanboot/jumpstart work for a production environment with a lot of different server types is just ridiculous! Then there's having to maintain different FLARs for ZFS and UFS builds, having to maintain both Jumpstart and Wanboot (Jumpstart to build the FLARs and Wanboot to install the boxes with the FLARs once you've built them), the awkwardness of adding packages to the build after the FLAR is laid down... I could go on, but I won't.
For the price, Solaris really needs to compete with AIX/HP-UX, which both have had a decent volume manager out of the box for a long time. Instead, on Solaris you almost have to buy Veritas.
Virtualization isn't just a buzzword. It's a way to reduce costs, and the company that I work for is pushing for it hard. It looks really bad when the AIX guys get 10:1, the HP guys get 10:1, the VMWare guys get at least 20:1 (depending on loads with ESX, which is an awesome product), and we're doing 4:1 because of all the implementation detail issues with zones/ldoms and the lack of good supporting tools (we're having to write our own in many cases.)
And, yes, Solaris by-and-large just works. Until you have to patch. Or deal with zones. Or deal
Yeah, Solaris has some pretty awesome features, but at the end of the day all that may be irrelevant in the face of Market Pressures. Sun for many years shot themselves in the foot by failing to deliver useful tools for things like patching/updating, mass installation of Solaris servers (yes, there is jumpstart/wanboot, but it is clearly deficient), and failing to deliver a decent native volume manager (ZFS) until Too Late, and then not having it support root filesystems until Way Too Late.
The reality of Solaris is that there are all these features that look awesome in theory, until you actually have to implement them and discover the practical implications. Take Zones. Zone sounds great, in theory. But, ever tried to patch a server with zones? It's a nightmare. And heaven help you if you actually have a server with zones from multiple, different apps and you need to get outage windows from all the different app groups in order to patch. Or LDoms. Again, they sound awesome. That is, until you realize that there are no tools to manage migrations when a server goes down hard (the most common case for which you would want to do a migration!) So, you end up having to write a bunch of scripts to duplicate LDom xml files etc. to do this, because Sun/Oracle didn't really think through how their technology would be used in a real environment. I also use AIX virtualization technology, and it's much better, and VMWare (which is what we use for Linux servers) blows them both out of the water.
Things like this are why a lot of major companies, including the one I work at, are leaving Solaris as fast as they can. The reality is that it takes twice as many SA's per server on Solaris as it does for any other platform, we have lower virtualization densities, and it therefore costs a lot more money to run. For the kind of money we're talking about, we can deal with a few echoes in the interface for SAN's.
The "congregation" is basically Fred Phelps and his kids and grand-kids. Don't confuse these people with an actual church.
I have a bill here from LabCorp. Price before insurance: $327.60 (for some routine bloodwork.) Price after insurance "adjustments": $14.88. So it's not just that they overcharge, it's that they deliberately overcharge the uninsured who have no idea what anything should cost.
Wanna know how Apple's doing? Just go down and see how busy your local Apple store is. I bought apple stock about 5 years ago on the basis of that. :)
Thanks for drawing the (proper) distinction between "intelligent design" and "creationism." There is a huge difference in theory, although it's been obscured as a lot of creationists have called themselves "intelligent design" advocates in an attempt to find legitimacy. Having read the work of (for example) Behe and Dembski, I think that ID is a legitimate scientific point of view, although I think it's probably ultimately incorrect.