Still being on unlimited and paying for it on time each month this getting bent over like this enrages me. Less than 1% of Verizon's users are still on unlimited and of those it's a fraction that user crazy amounts of data. I use on average 8gigs a month but when traveling I might use up to 20gigs. I'm going to walk into a Verizon store and say, "You can keep getting my $96/month and keep me on the unlimited or you will get $0/month and I'll take my business somewhere else." I'm sure they won't care but I'll try to embarrass while i'm there in front of other customers.
I'm looking into moving to Google's Project Fi. I'll have to watch my data usage while traveling till I'm use to it but that's ok.
As a parent who has kids that are just starting to drive, you better believe it's "Do as I say, not as I do." I'm paying for their first car and insurance after all.
Wow, you guys have really been taken in by the US media's propaganda.
I live in the US and I have no clue what you're referring to. These are just idiots. The media here is bad but not this bad or in this way. The extreme right republicans would do this but most of the media is on the left.
Google Wallet is a stand alone app thus you had to first open it to make a tap payment. This is more or less built in and just tap your phone and it pays.
I'm assuming there will also be more flexible options at some point like an API that apps can use to access and use the Android Pay, if there isn't already one.
But if you want apps for it then you will need a Samsung account on their app store. Also if you want to use Samsung Pay via the watch then you will need a Samsung device that supports their pay.
Usually all sites will send a confirmation email and only enable the account if a confirmation link or code from that email is used.
HA, No they don't. Someone started using my gmail address years ago (thinking it was theirs) to create accounts. I have access to so many accounts it's borderline wrong. This person even let their kid sign-up to EA's origin.com and bought a game. I did an account password reset seeing as the email address is mine and now the game belongs to me and they can't play it anymore.
Once I even got digital plane ticket's emailed to me from an Australian airline. I was able to do a password reset and get into the account and do whatever I wanted.
Companies seem to be relying on the "type your email 2 times" method and not the ending an email to verify. It's pretty sad.
What would be different from auto updating vs. everyone manually updating? You would most likely get the exact same outcome. Vast majority will go smooth but some would fail.
The same can be done by hobbyist with versions of Android that Google no longer maintains. Download the source, apply updates and patches and send to a user to install.
This is what I keep pushing for. Manufactures and carriers should have 30 days AFTER Google patches to push out the fixes for ALL security vulnerabilities. Those that fail get a fine for each day after 30 days they are late. Samsung is still working on Android 5.0.2 for my old Note 2 and my Note 10.1 tablet. Fucking 5.0 was released over 13 month ago.
I say as long as Google is still patching versions of Android then manufactures should be required to push out those versions to their devices.
it is oss as far as the os goes, but many of google's apps and their underlying service frameworks are closed source. so what you do is compile the os for your device and obtain an archive of the google apps/services exactly like cyanogenmod, et. al. do.
So, it is Open Source in the same way that OS X and iOS are. Darwin is Open Source. Many Frameworks are Open Source; but then...
The only broken part of Android is when other device manufactures get their hands on it. They are the ones that are updating their devices. I have a Nexus 6 which gets updates right from Google. This is no different the someone having an iPhone and getting updates right from Apple.
Google is who I'm now starting to wonder about, with all of these unpatchable cell phones because they don't want to support Android 2.3 or 4.1 even though the devices with these versions can't run anything newer.
Should Ford also be required to make parts for the Model A? At some point a company has to stop supporting old outdated products. For Google, once devices are no longer sold with X version of Android then they should set a date that they will stop support for it. Until then they can just apply security patches. That doesn't mean the device manufacture will update THEIR modified version of android and push it out to the devices though.
I do believe that device manufactures/carriers should be required to push out android updates within a set amount of days after Google has applied a security patch. Say 30 days. If someone falls victim to an exploit (such as the SMS/MMS one) that was fixed months ago but your device manufacture didn't push out a patch, you should be able to hold them responsible.
Now you're starting to sound like my grandma that refused to use the microwave oven given to her one Christmas. When she died 12 years later, it was found in the basement still sealed in the box. To scared of change.
I wasn't crazy about Win8 at first but when I got my new laptop that came with it, it's not anywhere near as bad as what you read about online. I almost never see the tile screen because I set my windows to also default to the desktop. A quick glance at my computer and you would think it's Win7.
THE CODE IS ALREADY DONE!!!! Why don't they just throw the switch?
Good question. I don't know the answer, but there's probably a reason.
Most likely due to the hand full of people still on Windows XP and using IE8. At my work when I updated one of our websites a few months ago to something more modern, a customer called and complained because it wasn't rendering correctly. He was using IE8 and refused to use anything else. Sadly my boss forced me to return to our 2005 style website all because of one dipshit person.
Walled garden makes no difference, as this apparently exploits old Android bugs to install itself.
The big difference is that Apple continues to support old devices with new versions of the operating system until the hardware becomes too outdated to run it. Android devices are lucky if they get two upgrades before the carrier or manufacturer declares them done.
And, yes, that's one reason I'm expecting to dump Android for Apple when Google stop supporting my Nexus tablet.
Apple does stop supporting. My (no longer used) iPad is stuck on iOS 5.x.
Personally I believe device manufactures should be held accountable for not pushing OTA updates to patch security exploits. At least for x number of years after releasing a device or Google stops patches for that version of Android. This is one reason I moved to a Nexus 6 from a Samsung Note 2. I was considering a Note 4 but I hate always being 2 versions behind in Android versions. Samsung claims they are working on 5.0.x for the Note 2 but if and when they push it out, Android M (5.2?) will be out. Sure I was already running 5.1 because I root. That's not the point. The point is that these companies being slow at pushing out OS updates is whats keeping so many people's devices at risk.
However, Android does have a permission model that is all or nothing, where a fleshlight app can ask for everything under the sun and there is no "allow, but not with those permissions" available.
I haven't had to restart my windows for some time now when updating my video drivers. They restarting while installing. With dual monitors it shoves all my items on the second monitor's desktop over to my main display which is kinda of annoying though.
If you're interested in a Reddit-like site that won't arbitrarily close your subreddit and shadowban you because they don't like what you're talking about, voat.co is shaping up pretty nicely.
Not yet anyways. Once they get big enough and popular outside groups will start putting pressure on them to close various subs.
Also I have yet to see voat. It's always down when I go there.
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Still being on unlimited and paying for it on time each month this getting bent over like this enrages me. Less than 1% of Verizon's users are still on unlimited and of those it's a fraction that user crazy amounts of data. I use on average 8gigs a month but when traveling I might use up to 20gigs. I'm going to walk into a Verizon store and say, "You can keep getting my $96/month and keep me on the unlimited or you will get $0/month and I'll take my business somewhere else." I'm sure they won't care but I'll try to embarrass while i'm there in front of other customers.
I'm looking into moving to Google's Project Fi. I'll have to watch my data usage while traveling till I'm use to it but that's ok.
As a parent who has kids that are just starting to drive, you better believe it's "Do as I say, not as I do." I'm paying for their first car and insurance after all.
Wow, you guys have really been taken in by the US media's propaganda.
I live in the US and I have no clue what you're referring to. These are just idiots. The media here is bad but not this bad or in this way. The extreme right republicans would do this but most of the media is on the left.
Google Wallet is a stand alone app thus you had to first open it to make a tap payment. This is more or less built in and just tap your phone and it pays.
I'm assuming there will also be more flexible options at some point like an API that apps can use to access and use the Android Pay, if there isn't already one.
But if you want apps for it then you will need a Samsung account on their app store. Also if you want to use Samsung Pay via the watch then you will need a Samsung device that supports their pay.
Usually all sites will send a confirmation email and only enable the account if a confirmation link or code from that email is used.
HA, No they don't. Someone started using my gmail address years ago (thinking it was theirs) to create accounts. I have access to so many accounts it's borderline wrong. This person even let their kid sign-up to EA's origin.com and bought a game. I did an account password reset seeing as the email address is mine and now the game belongs to me and they can't play it anymore.
Once I even got digital plane ticket's emailed to me from an Australian airline. I was able to do a password reset and get into the account and do whatever I wanted.
Companies seem to be relying on the "type your email 2 times" method and not the ending an email to verify. It's pretty sad.
What would be different from auto updating vs. everyone manually updating? You would most likely get the exact same outcome. Vast majority will go smooth but some would fail.
You mean something like this?
I guess you haven't heard of /r/coontown which still exists even though /r/fatpeoplehate was banned.
Charge $300/ball.. PROFIT!
The same can be done by hobbyist with versions of Android that Google no longer maintains. Download the source, apply updates and patches and send to a user to install.
This is what I keep pushing for. Manufactures and carriers should have 30 days AFTER Google patches to push out the fixes for ALL security vulnerabilities. Those that fail get a fine for each day after 30 days they are late. Samsung is still working on Android 5.0.2 for my old Note 2 and my Note 10.1 tablet. Fucking 5.0 was released over 13 month ago.
I say as long as Google is still patching versions of Android then manufactures should be required to push out those versions to their devices.
it is oss as far as the os goes, but many of google's apps and their underlying service frameworks are closed source. so what you do is compile the os for your device and obtain an archive of the google apps/services exactly like cyanogenmod, et. al. do.
So, it is Open Source in the same way that OS X and iOS are. Darwin is Open Source. Many Frameworks are Open Source; but then...
Where can I download the iOS source code? Oh wait you can't. But you can download the Android source code
The only broken part of Android is when other device manufactures get their hands on it. They are the ones that are updating their devices. I have a Nexus 6 which gets updates right from Google. This is no different the someone having an iPhone and getting updates right from Apple.
I still wouldn't change back to a device that you don't truly own even after paying $500+ for the device.
Google is who I'm now starting to wonder about, with all of these unpatchable cell phones because they don't want to support Android 2.3 or 4.1 even though the devices with these versions can't run anything newer.
Should Ford also be required to make parts for the Model A? At some point a company has to stop supporting old outdated products. For Google, once devices are no longer sold with X version of Android then they should set a date that they will stop support for it. Until then they can just apply security patches. That doesn't mean the device manufacture will update THEIR modified version of android and push it out to the devices though.
I do believe that device manufactures/carriers should be required to push out android updates within a set amount of days after Google has applied a security patch. Say 30 days. If someone falls victim to an exploit (such as the SMS/MMS one) that was fixed months ago but your device manufacture didn't push out a patch, you should be able to hold them responsible.
So does my Win7 machine. Those 500MB/sec SSD drives sure are amazing.
My Win8.1 laptop with one of those hybrid hard drives boots in about 15-20 seconds.
You should consider upgrading your drive
How so? Would you rather they charge to use it? Maybe $0.01/query?
Now you're starting to sound like my grandma that refused to use the microwave oven given to her one Christmas. When she died 12 years later, it was found in the basement still sealed in the box. To scared of change.
I wasn't crazy about Win8 at first but when I got my new laptop that came with it, it's not anywhere near as bad as what you read about online. I almost never see the tile screen because I set my windows to also default to the desktop. A quick glance at my computer and you would think it's Win7.
Stop nitpicking.
THE CODE IS ALREADY DONE!!!! Why don't they just throw the switch?
Good question. I don't know the answer, but there's probably a reason.
Most likely due to the hand full of people still on Windows XP and using IE8. At my work when I updated one of our websites a few months ago to something more modern, a customer called and complained because it wasn't rendering correctly. He was using IE8 and refused to use anything else. Sadly my boss forced me to return to our 2005 style website all because of one dipshit person.
This is why I got the Nexus 6... I got sick of waiting.
Walled garden makes no difference, as this apparently exploits old Android bugs to install itself.
The big difference is that Apple continues to support old devices with new versions of the operating system until the hardware becomes too outdated to run it. Android devices are lucky if they get two upgrades before the carrier or manufacturer declares them done.
And, yes, that's one reason I'm expecting to dump Android for Apple when Google stop supporting my Nexus tablet.
Apple does stop supporting. My (no longer used) iPad is stuck on iOS 5.x.
Personally I believe device manufactures should be held accountable for not pushing OTA updates to patch security exploits. At least for x number of years after releasing a device or Google stops patches for that version of Android. This is one reason I moved to a Nexus 6 from a Samsung Note 2. I was considering a Note 4 but I hate always being 2 versions behind in Android versions. Samsung claims they are working on 5.0.x for the Note 2 but if and when they push it out, Android M (5.2?) will be out. Sure I was already running 5.1 because I root. That's not the point. The point is that these companies being slow at pushing out OS updates is whats keeping so many people's devices at risk.
However, Android does have a permission model that is all or nothing, where a fleshlight app can ask for everything under the sun and there is no "allow, but not with those permissions" available.
This is changing in Android M
I haven't had to restart my windows for some time now when updating my video drivers. They restarting while installing. With dual monitors it shoves all my items on the second monitor's desktop over to my main display which is kinda of annoying though.
If you're interested in a Reddit-like site that won't arbitrarily close your subreddit and shadowban you because they don't like what you're talking about, voat.co is shaping up pretty nicely.
Not yet anyways. Once they get big enough and popular outside groups will start putting pressure on them to close various subs.
Also I have yet to see voat. It's always down when I go there.
How the hell do some of you people get so many of these spam calls? I've had my cell # for a good 10 years and I'm shocked to get 2 spam calls a year.