Apple is pretty smart. They know that Apple buyers really do care just how slick their server will look locked up in that rackroom or rack cabinet.
Coming from a job where the Director of Tech was an apple lover and made IT dept buy an XServe, I had a chance to play with it. Really unimpressed for the cost. All of the GUI apps had free and usually more featureful linux counterparts . Most of the time the admins did their work in the command line anyway.
When the controller and the ceo found out that we could have bought and built out three x86 boxes running linux for less, the DT was put on the short list and three months later was audited and fired. When it came down to it, there really was no ROI going with the X boxes. A flashy GUI? I'd personally fire anyone who bought server hardware based on that.
Some of you migh remember several years back when Ultima Online came out (which Roxored back then! I blew many hours on that game!) somne folks figured out how to create a open source server that you could connect to using the retail client. What was cool was folks could build out and set up their own world and let other folks connect to it. It was quite cool.
"That's not even considering the many voters - mostly black, and more likely to be Gore voters - illegal disenfranchised [gregpalast.com], or the illegal and self-contradictory Palm Beach "butterfly ballot", or the invalid absentee ballots that were counted [harvard.edu]. (I assume the later are the ones you're refering to. However, Gore didn't challenge such absentee ballots - if he had, the Bush team might have had a harder time committing their fraud. Another blown opportunity.)
More voters - in the U.S. as a whole and in Florida - went to the polls to cast their ballots for Gore than for Bush. The fact that in Florida, more Gore voters had trouble getting their votes counted shows the absence of equal protection when different methods of vote-counting are used in different areas. (With rich counties generally having more accurate tabulation.)"
No. The problem is the dumb asses in Florida can't figure out how to punch a simple ballot. I'm sorry if you can't figure out a simple form that was proven to make sense to 5th graders, you shouldn't be able to vote. Period. You're too fucking stupid to have an opinion regardless who you are voting for..
Take everyday hardware wrap it around a shiny container. People will call it visionary and cutting edge.
Basically Apple RAISED the price on the ipod.
Lets place the value on the design difference as ZERO. Which it is. The fact that it's smaller and in colors means nothing really. The original is quite small enough.
SO...
299 / 15 = 19.93 per gig.
249 / 4 = 62.25 per gig.
Now I understand the difference between 4 gig HG and a 15 gig HD to manufacture is quite small. That doesn't matter. The end value is what matters.
Sigh.. However the media will call this inventive & revolutionary.
Apple locks you into their product much more than Microsoft does on a hardware level which is MUCH worse. There are software alternatives to everything M$ offers. And many people use them.
1) Open Office is MUCH better than MS Office IMHO 2) MSSQL is unnecessary is most cases. MySQL or MSQL Are more than capable and much better than acess. 3) Apache blows IIS away and is free.
Why do people stick with M$ products? Because typically they are easier to use and have a nice GUI to access and configure them. Lazy folks like to point and click rather than type. Admins included.
Unfortunately a free and open market society brings abuses by indviduals and corporations. They upshot however is the ability to vote with your money, which is why we are seeing M$ responding to their security issues in such a manner.
As you've probably ready a slew of posts by now about how "M$ still suxors!" and how MS will "never be as secure as *ix".
Keep something in mind. While a good portion of the m$ directed slings and arrows are legitimate concerns over the security of the OS, with good reason, the majority of slasdot users hate M$ because of a completely different ideal. M$ is huge. By nature, slashdot folks just hate corporations. All corporations are bad. They do nothing but steal from the public and rape their employees. They kick puppies and steal candy from kids.
What folks here would really hate most is this: Microsoft actually getting their OS into a position where the *ix folks would have nothing to complain about that didn't happen years in the past. The best they could do is say, "Well I don't trust an OS that is as buggy as Windows USED TO BE"
I use Linux and Windows. I prefer Linux however the apps I need to do work don't exist on Linux. Linux advocates need to put pressure on software developers to release versions for Linux (Starting with Macromedia IMHO).
Unless that can happen, more CEO's and CTO's (Who are mostly clueless) are going to read these changes Microsoft is making and remain a Microsoft shop.
-- You have failed to spend a bit more time to find the right people to outsource to, whether Indian or Russian.
We found them thru an outsourcing firm and trusted that the people they contracted were competent.
-- You have failed to communicate with your outsourced team. This is what happens with most small companies who try to outsource for the first time. If you are complaining about lack of suggestions from an Indian, I guess that was a part of your expectation in terms of their job description.
I guess we just expected people working in a "team" environment to not be out of commuinication for a week at a time and just show up with code. We'd send emails requesting something be changed a certain way and they (the indians) would never reply until they had something completed the OLD way, sayinmg they never got the 20 emails we'd sent.
-- You have failed to design the application correctly. If your programmers suggest changes to you, this means your designers didn't do their job right. This often happens at small companies who don't have a process for anything.
Wow. If you have designers that can 100% of the time create specs and use cases that never change, we'd like to hire you.
-- You have failed to understand that QA is not a part of development (most likely due to the perpetual small-company approach of "just get it done"). Your developer can do at most development QA and unit testing. QA for fulfillment of requirements as per the assignment to the outsourced team are your homework.
QA is what you DURING developement jackass. And while the developer SHOULD do ongoing QA testing, you NEVER have the developer be the only QA.
If your crusty hardware won't run anything newer than win 98x. Upgrade. You can get a system for under 500 bucks that will last you another 7 years.
Be glad you aren't a MAC user who makes software that just simply WONT run on certain hardware because Apple wants you you to drop another 1200+ on a new system
What we've found during the six month trial of hiring outside programming help this is what we've found:
o While Indian programmers (we used 8 different ones for 6 different projects) may be perfectly competent to produce software to spec, they usually ALWAYS built it to spec and NEVER brought up any issues they might have found in the process. Either they didn't see a flaw in the design or just figured it would be job security if they changed or fixed the ap later.
o We had no luck with Russian programmers (We had went thru 4 of them and none could complete the project they say they could have)
o American (We used 10 of them for 8 projects) outsourced programmers communicated MUCH better with their project managers and usually offered suggestions to how we might want to change the app to make it better or more efficient. The applications developed stateside required less QA and went to market faster.
Is this a good enough sized sample to make judgements? Maybe not. But good enough for us.
After the six months, it just didn't make sense to outsource, howerver if we do again, it will be domestic. The shortterm costs may look good but a 33% savings per hour usually gets lost in the longer development cycle.
Here's some interesting stats that I calculated a month back.
I was an Emusic.com member for a year and a half. In that time, I paid about $180 to be a member. A good chunk of that I'd bet made it's way to different music labels.
In that time I bought 40 CD's from bands I would have never heard of if it wasn't for Emusic.
Since they have gutted Emusic and turned a fantastic service into basically a "pay to sample" service, I have bought cancelled my subscription and haven't bought a single CD.
Now... Unless I go back to what I was doing before, which was stealing music from different sources online, I doubt I will be buying another CD soon.
"What do you think goes throught the mind of a projector jockey making $6-$15 an hour showing the same shitty movies over and over and over. Shit, the managers of the places don't make crap. And it's not like the industry doesn't brag about its money, that's all you hear about movies in the news, "record breaking weekend," "record opening," "biggest budget ever." I mean in a recession, a movie and dinner date is what? $50 to $100 depending on if you have drinks with dinner, you think the people working at the theater can afford that with their disposable income? "
What state are you in? In illinois the projectionists are union and they make between 22 and 26 an hour to press a start button, splice previews and commercials and take naps. The projectors maintained by outside firms for the newer chains becuase they are quite complex these days.
As for the managers.. I was one 10 years ago and was making 55k THEN.
It was an 8 screen Cinemark theatre and on a weekend we'd do 30k in concession sales easy.
Believe me, the theatres do get leaned on by the studios already. They will not have any trouble getting the theatre chains to help push their agenga.
My prediction for one of the big Loser for 2004 will be Emusic.com
What a fantastic service that has been completely gutted and destroyed. Thousands of folks PAYING for their music will now go back to p2p and the newsgroups.
We've been keeping track of global climate for more than 140 years!
Surely this is enough to be able to accurately predict the warming and cooling cycles of the Earth!
You stupid people! Global temperature has risen almost 1 degree F in the past 140 years! (http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/nhs hgl.gif) Surely this is the sign of evironmental armageddon!
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Apple is pretty smart. They know that Apple buyers really do care just how slick their server will look locked up in that rackroom or rack cabinet.
Coming from a job where the Director of Tech was an apple lover and made IT dept buy an XServe, I had a chance to play with it. Really unimpressed for the cost. All of the GUI apps had free and usually more featureful linux counterparts . Most of the time the admins did their work in the command line anyway.
When the controller and the ceo found out that we could have bought and built out three x86 boxes running linux for less, the DT was put on the short list and three months later was audited and fired. When it came down to it, there really was no ROI going with the X boxes. A flashy GUI? I'd personally fire anyone who bought server hardware based on that.
Some of you migh remember several years back when Ultima Online came out (which Roxored back then! I blew many hours on that game!) somne folks figured out how to create a open source server that you could connect to using the retail client. What was cool was folks could build out and set up their own world and let other folks connect to it. It was quite cool.
"That's not even considering the many voters - mostly black, and more likely to be Gore voters - illegal disenfranchised [gregpalast.com], or the illegal and self-contradictory Palm Beach "butterfly ballot", or the invalid absentee ballots that were counted [harvard.edu]. (I assume the later are the ones you're refering to. However, Gore didn't challenge such absentee ballots - if he had, the Bush team might have had a harder time committing their fraud. Another blown opportunity.)
More voters - in the U.S. as a whole and in Florida - went to the polls to cast their ballots for Gore than for Bush. The fact that in Florida, more Gore voters had trouble getting their votes counted shows the absence of equal protection when different methods of vote-counting are used in different areas. (With rich counties generally having more accurate tabulation.)"
No. The problem is the dumb asses in Florida can't figure out how to punch a simple ballot. I'm sorry if you can't figure out a simple form that was proven to make sense to 5th graders, you shouldn't be able to vote. Period. You're too fucking stupid to have an opinion regardless who you are voting for..
Do scientists have every genome and every spontaneous mutation mapped out for everything we eat? Of course not.
These fish are sterile so if they do get into the wild waterways NOTHING will happen except bigger fish will have more food.
This, like most other things year hear from the reactionary left, is based on Junk Science.
I guess the folks at business week aren't as clueless either.
j an 2004/tc2004017_5927_tc056.htm
http://www.businessweek.com/technology/content/
Pay attention!
The new mini ipod is $249 for a 4 GIG HD.
Does that seem like a deal to you?
http://www.apple.com
Take everyday hardware wrap it around a shiny container. People will call it visionary and cutting edge.
Basically Apple RAISED the price on the ipod.
Lets place the value on the design difference as ZERO. Which it is. The fact that it's smaller and in colors means nothing really. The original is quite small enough.
SO...
299 / 15 = 19.93 per gig.
249 / 4 = 62.25 per gig.
Now I understand the difference between 4 gig HG and a 15 gig HD to manufacture is quite small. That doesn't matter. The end value is what matters.
Sigh.. However the media will call this inventive & revolutionary.
Apple locks you into their product much more than Microsoft does on a hardware level which is MUCH worse. There are software alternatives to everything M$ offers. And many people use them.
1) Open Office is MUCH better than MS Office IMHO
2) MSSQL is unnecessary is most cases. MySQL or MSQL Are more than capable and much better than acess.
3) Apache blows IIS away and is free.
Why do people stick with M$ products? Because typically they are easier to use and have a nice GUI to access and configure them. Lazy folks like to point and click rather than type. Admins included.
Unfortunately a free and open market society brings abuses by indviduals and corporations. They upshot however is the ability to vote with your money, which is why we are seeing M$ responding to their security issues in such a manner.
As you've probably ready a slew of posts by now about how "M$ still suxors!" and how MS will "never be as secure as *ix".
Keep something in mind. While a good portion of the m$ directed slings and arrows are legitimate concerns over the security of the OS, with good reason, the majority of slasdot users hate M$ because of a completely different ideal. M$ is huge. By nature, slashdot folks just hate corporations. All corporations are bad. They do nothing but steal from the public and rape their employees. They kick puppies and steal candy from kids.
What folks here would really hate most is this: Microsoft actually getting their OS into a position where the *ix folks would have nothing to complain about that didn't happen years in the past. The best they could do is say, "Well I don't trust an OS that is as buggy as Windows USED TO BE"
I use Linux and Windows. I prefer Linux however the apps I need to do work don't exist on Linux. Linux advocates need to put pressure on software developers to release versions for Linux (Starting with Macromedia IMHO).
Unless that can happen, more CEO's and CTO's (Who are mostly clueless) are going to read these changes Microsoft is making and remain a Microsoft shop.
That's what I like about slashdot.
Sometimes wishing something was free and open gets you an "Interesting" or "Insightful"
Sometimes you are labelled a troll.
I read your post and this is what I found:
-- You have failed to spend a bit more time to find the right people to outsource to, whether Indian or Russian.
We found them thru an outsourcing firm and trusted that the people they contracted were competent.
-- You have failed to communicate with your outsourced team. This is what happens with most small companies who try to outsource for the first time. If you are complaining about lack of suggestions from an Indian, I guess that was a part of your expectation in terms of their job description.
I guess we just expected people working in a "team" environment to not be out of commuinication for a week at a time and just show up with code. We'd send emails requesting something be changed a certain way and they (the indians) would never reply until they had something completed the OLD way, sayinmg they never got the 20 emails we'd sent.
-- You have failed to design the application correctly. If your programmers suggest changes to you, this means your designers didn't do their job right. This often happens at small companies who don't have a process for anything.
Wow. If you have designers that can 100% of the time create specs and use cases that never change, we'd like to hire you.
-- You have failed to understand that QA is not a part of development (most likely due to the perpetual small-company approach of "just get it done"). Your developer can do at most development QA and unit testing. QA for fulfillment of requirements as per the assignment to the outsourced team are your homework.
QA is what you DURING developement jackass. And while the developer SHOULD do ongoing QA testing, you NEVER have the developer be the only QA.
Get a fucking clue.
It's a shame that it wasn't free for download. What happened to a tried and true business model.
1) first one is always free
2) get everyone the block hooked
3) PROFIT!
If your crusty hardware won't run anything newer than win 98x. Upgrade. You can get a system for under 500 bucks that will last you another 7 years.
Be glad you aren't a MAC user who makes software that just simply WONT run on certain hardware because Apple wants you you to drop another 1200+ on a new system
What we've found during the six month trial of hiring outside programming help this is what we've found:
o While Indian programmers (we used 8 different ones for 6 different projects) may be perfectly competent to produce software to spec, they usually ALWAYS built it to spec and NEVER brought up any issues they might have found in the process. Either they didn't see a flaw in the design or just figured it would be job security if they changed or fixed the ap later.
o We had no luck with Russian programmers (We had went thru 4 of them and none could complete the project they say they could have)
o American (We used 10 of them for 8 projects) outsourced programmers communicated MUCH better with their project managers and usually offered suggestions to how we might want to change the app to make it better or more efficient. The applications developed stateside required less QA and went to market faster.
Is this a good enough sized sample to make judgements? Maybe not. But good enough for us.
After the six months, it just didn't make sense to outsource, howerver if we do again, it will be domestic. The shortterm costs may look good but a 33% savings per hour usually gets lost in the longer development cycle.
Ha!
By taking a look at the original site, 125 people must be his entire audience base.
Here's some interesting stats that I calculated a month back.
I was an Emusic.com member for a year and a half. In that time, I paid about $180 to be a member. A good chunk of that I'd bet made it's way to different music labels.
In that time I bought 40 CD's from bands I would have never heard of if it wasn't for Emusic.
Since they have gutted Emusic and turned a fantastic service into basically a "pay to sample" service, I have bought cancelled my subscription and haven't bought a single CD.
Now... Unless I go back to what I was doing before, which was stealing music from different sources online, I doubt I will be buying another CD soon.
The RIAA needs to get a fucking clue.
"What do you think goes throught the mind of a projector jockey making $6-$15 an hour showing the same shitty movies over and over and over. Shit, the managers of the places don't make crap. And it's not like the industry doesn't brag about its money, that's all you hear about movies in the news, "record breaking weekend," "record opening," "biggest budget ever." I mean in a recession, a movie and dinner date is what? $50 to $100 depending on if you have drinks with dinner, you think the people working at the theater can afford that with their disposable income? "
What state are you in? In illinois the projectionists are union and they make between 22 and 26 an hour to press a start button, splice previews and commercials and take naps. The projectors maintained by outside firms for the newer chains becuase they are quite complex these days.
As for the managers.. I was one 10 years ago and was making 55k THEN.
It was an 8 screen Cinemark theatre and on a weekend we'd do 30k in concession sales easy.
Believe me, the theatres do get leaned on by the studios already. They will not have any trouble getting the theatre chains to help push their agenga.
My prediction for one of the big Loser for 2004 will be Emusic.com
What a fantastic service that has been completely gutted and destroyed. Thousands of folks PAYING for their music will now go back to p2p and the newsgroups.
Shame.
Considering how often you get Server 500 errors when simply just trying to reply to messages here, you're not far off.
Actually things are better than they used to be. The new ones seem to be equally compatible.
I stand somewhat erected.
http://www.dvdrhelp.com
1) Most users are wrong here. -R is more compatable with set top players.
2) By the time a clear winner is decided, a new format(s) will be in play and the fight will restart.
We've been keeping track of global climate for more than 140 years!
s hgl.gif) Surely this is the sign of evironmental armageddon!
Surely this is enough to be able to accurately predict the warming and cooling cycles of the Earth!
You stupid people! Global temperature has risen almost 1 degree F in the past 140 years! (http://www.cru.uea.ac.uk/cru/data/temperature/nh
I know it from Zork, not nethack actually.
Didn't know nethack used it as well..
Dude. With that sig I'll give mod you up every time.
:)
Shame us and about 4 other folks know what you are referencing
uuh. no.. There are very simple automated ways to figure out what type of traffic is moving on your network without doing much of anything.
Also, when they start getting reports of spam coming from their netblock, they can actualy DO something and prosecute or block access.
You can put the tin foil hat away now.