When I read the headline, I thought the site was about growing up and seeing your favorite tv shows again.
But to tell you the truth, I think the site as it is now is more interesting. It is amazing what some people consider erotic. And I am not judging. I am not in a position to judge others for their sexual behavior.
I just heard some sad news on talk radio - former Iraqi information minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf was found dead in his Baghdad home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an Iraqi icon.
I love Goatsella! I use it all the time at work. I can surf my favorite site without anyone noticing.
Better drink your coffee before it gets cold....
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Sun Considers Opteron
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· Score: 2, Funny
You apparently intend your post as a warning to Sun that it should give up on its existing technologies (sparc,solaris) and join what you perceive as the "linux pack" of IBM, HP, etc. But if you look at your own arguments and reconsider them, the case is far from clear that what you suggest is in fact wise.
Consider IBM. Sure, IBM is selling hardware with Linux loaded on it. But they haven't given up on their Power chips as you seem to imply that Sun should its Sparc series. Why aren't you wagging your tongue at IBM for that? And AIX? What of that? IBM certainly hasn't abandonded it, and I wouldn't expect it to any time soon. So all that IBM is really offering is yet another operating system choice, in this case Linux, and it meets your approval. It doesn't necessarily do anything unique there.
And what of HP? You say that HP has proven that they can sell Linux servers in the absence of huge corporate support. What on earth are you talking about? HP is one of the largest computer companies on the planet. If they can't make a go of selling Linux boxes, who can? I will also point out that HP hasn't dumped RISC for X86, but instead went to expensive Itanium, and has a long roadmap for HP/UX. Sure they will sell you a Linux box, but they would prefer to sell you something else.
You assert that Linux is evolving way faster then any previous OS in history. The only reason that is possible is because it has had so far to go to catch up. To catch up it has generally traveled trails blazed by others, and relied upon the kindness of volunteers and donations from kinfolk (JFS,XFS,etc.). Sure Linux is causing the traditional Unix vendors to react and jump a bit.... just like BSD did to AT&T Unix, GNU did to Unix, the various Unix groups and companies did to each other over time. But big unix companies are still here and adapting.
Cost? I've got Sun equipment that cheaper than my Dells, and suits my particular needs better. Cost/performance? Depending upon the day and the metric you've got a better argument. But it doesn't matter how cheap it is, or what the price/performance is if it doesn't cut the mustard. PC and linux aren't even close to being a universal solution. Check back in 3 years after Opteron is well entrenched, Linux gets some more time in the rock polisher, and companies have figured out which direction Linux on X86 is heading: Intel vs AMD. Till then, confusion reigns.
I also wouldn't count on Linux staying cheap. All of the major Linux commercial vendors are putting plans into place or releasing enterprise or professional releases that are both much more expensive, and have a much lower change rate. What else do you expect? Linux companies have been going broke left and right for years, and only a few now are starting to make a profit. There have to be profitable Linux vendors if linux is going to be a commercial success, and that means money, lots more money. And that money will come from their customers for license and support costs. I pay less for Sun support than what is in my budget for Red Hat support. It will be interesting to watch what happens to the Linux marketplace once that becomes more common.
The change rate for commercial linux is starting to drop for the professional releases. This has to happen since if you need something reliable that you are going to bet your business on, you can't afford the overhead of the constant release churning that has marked the Linux world to date. Testing, certification, and quality assurance take time. I wonder how that will effect Linux in the marketplace?
Its kind of ironic, but many of the things that you list as big advantages for Linux are really disadvantages to those with deep pockets. Rapid change is bad. Cheap is irrelevant. Almost as stable isn't stable. Those cost of the application, its implementation and maintenance is king. But the Linux commercial marketplace is heading toward those opportunities. I wonder what the outcome will be?
You've probably noticed that Slashdot has a lot of a) duplicate stories and b) very similiar stories (RIAA/MPAA sux, censorshop sux, linux kernel 2.1.0.2.1.2.1 released, spam sux)
Hey, If Slashdot posts duplicate stories, you can karmawhore with duplicate posts, right? So when there is Yet Another Duplicate Story, just use the placeholder-for-a-real-search Slashdot has, and when you find a similar story (not that hard even with Slashdot's crappy seach), set the threshold at +5 and copy-paste some posts into the new story. It helps if you post a reply to your own post as an AC complaining about the posts being at -1. You know, something about "crack smoking moderators" always works.
Wow! Instant karma. Just add Monty Python reference.
First Post!
No. Should I?
Are you most people?
Car bombs! Yeah!
No. Bomb Canada.
First Post!
Are you sure?
I thought it was pretty convincing...
When I read the headline, I thought the site was about growing up and seeing your favorite tv shows again.
But to tell you the truth, I think the site as it is now is more interesting. It is amazing what some people consider erotic. And I am not judging. I am not in a position to judge others for their sexual behavior.
I don't care. I want easy karma.
Is that "Free as in beer" or "Free as in speech?"
First post!
a) Micro-Helicopter Fun
OR...
b) Sex with a mare?
Score:5, Offtopic
Okay everybody, the game is over and JessLeah is the winner. Slashdot will now be closed.
LAST POST!
You almost got it, but the 100% correct spelling is "GNU/hippies"
I just heard some sad news on talk radio - former Iraqi information minister Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf was found dead in his Baghdad home this morning. There weren't any more details. I'm sure everyone in the Slashdot community will miss him - even if you didn't enjoy his work, there's no denying his contributions to popular culture. Truly an Iraqi icon.
Trying to get some cheap karma?
I love Goatsella! I use it all the time at work. I can surf my favorite site without anyone noticing.
You apparently intend your post as a warning to Sun that it should give up on its existing technologies (sparc,solaris) and join what you perceive as the "linux pack" of IBM, HP, etc. But if you look at your own arguments and reconsider them, the case is far from clear that what you suggest is in fact wise.
Consider IBM. Sure, IBM is selling hardware with Linux loaded on it. But they haven't given up on their Power chips as you seem to imply that Sun should its Sparc series. Why aren't you wagging your tongue at IBM for that? And AIX? What of that? IBM certainly hasn't abandonded it, and I wouldn't expect it to any time soon. So all that IBM is really offering is yet another operating system choice, in this case Linux, and it meets your approval. It doesn't necessarily do anything unique there.
And what of HP? You say that HP has proven that they can sell Linux servers in the absence of huge corporate support. What on earth are you talking about? HP is one of the largest computer companies on the planet. If they can't make a go of selling Linux boxes, who can? I will also point out that HP hasn't dumped RISC for X86, but instead went to expensive Itanium, and has a long roadmap for HP/UX. Sure they will sell you a Linux box, but they would prefer to sell you something else.
You assert that Linux is evolving way faster then any previous OS in history. The only reason that is possible is because it has had so far to go to catch up. To catch up it has generally traveled trails blazed by others, and relied upon the kindness of volunteers and donations from kinfolk (JFS,XFS,etc.). Sure Linux is causing the traditional Unix vendors to react and jump a bit.... just like BSD did to AT&T Unix, GNU did to Unix, the various Unix groups and companies did to each other over time. But big unix companies are still here and adapting.
Cost? I've got Sun equipment that cheaper than my Dells, and suits my particular needs better. Cost/performance? Depending upon the day and the metric you've got a better argument. But it doesn't matter how cheap it is, or what the price/performance is if it doesn't cut the mustard. PC and linux aren't even close to being a universal solution. Check back in 3 years after Opteron is well entrenched, Linux gets some more time in the rock polisher, and companies have figured out which direction Linux on X86 is heading: Intel vs AMD. Till then, confusion reigns.
I also wouldn't count on Linux staying cheap. All of the major Linux commercial vendors are putting plans into place or releasing enterprise or professional releases that are both much more expensive, and have a much lower change rate. What else do you expect? Linux companies have been going broke left and right for years, and only a few now are starting to make a profit. There have to be profitable Linux vendors if linux is going to be a commercial success, and that means money, lots more money. And that money will come from their customers for license and support costs. I pay less for Sun support than what is in my budget for Red Hat support. It will be interesting to watch what happens to the Linux marketplace once that becomes more common.
The change rate for commercial linux is starting to drop for the professional releases. This has to happen since if you need something reliable that you are going to bet your business on, you can't afford the overhead of the constant release churning that has marked the Linux world to date. Testing, certification, and quality assurance take time. I wonder how that will effect Linux in the marketplace?
Its kind of ironic, but many of the things that you list as big advantages for Linux are really disadvantages to those with deep pockets. Rapid change is bad. Cheap is irrelevant. Almost as stable isn't stable. Those cost of the application, its implementation and maintenance is king. But the Linux commercial marketplace is heading toward those opportunities. I wonder what the outcome will be?
Linux is "
First post!
+1 Microsoft bash.
No wait, this is Slashdot:
+$ M$cro$oft ba$h.
Come on, tell us how you really feel.
You don't.
Are you sure you didn't mean "MS?" As in Microsoft?
You've probably noticed that Slashdot has a lot of a) duplicate stories and b) very similiar stories (RIAA/MPAA sux, censorshop sux, linux kernel 2.1.0.2.1.2.1 released, spam sux)
Hey, If Slashdot posts duplicate stories, you can karmawhore with duplicate posts, right? So when there is Yet Another Duplicate Story, just use the placeholder-for-a-real-search Slashdot has, and when you find a similar story (not that hard even with Slashdot's crappy seach), set the threshold at +5 and copy-paste some posts into the new story. It helps if you post a reply to your own post as an AC complaining about the posts being at -1. You know, something about "crack smoking moderators" always works.
Don't believe me? Look at these:
I made those posts and now I post at 1 again. I'm going to go on at least until I get +1 posting bonus...