Sometimes, whether you want the job actually has zero to do with anything. Sometimes you actually *need* it and you'll take it anyway or else you'll be out on the street in about 30 days. Guess what, I've spent most of my life in that position and not necessarily through any fault of my own.
http://slashdot.org/~Michael+Kristopeit Seems more like a flamer than a troll tho. I mean more like Roman_Mir or (back in the day) Trollaxor or JonKatz or LionKuntz....
Nah, I remember some of the trolls in the late 1990's... some of them were so subtle, it was like a good hot sauce. You didn't feel the burn till it was coming out your ass the next day, but by then it was too late. Some of the trolls back then were just that good.
They'll just say that the legislators made the law, and nobody *made* them do it. And since the employers are not the legislators, the employers are not at fault. Its *technically* true but its still a dick move. I really don't know of any good way to hold weasels down long enough to smack them with the hammer of honesty.
Here's what I don't understand, whats so wrong about defining the Ampere in terms of coulombs per second? Or in terms of anything else for that matter? I guess I fail to see whats so bad about having the Ampere as a derived unit.
They're just NOW starting to worry about this, now that it actually has a valid shot at replacing white-collar jobs???.... boohoohoo worlds tiniest violin for them. What do they think they put us guys in Manufacturing through? Yeah, some retrained, but most just disappeared.... and as always, the money flowed uphill.
You make it sound so simple.... which is how i know you've never suffered a crippling disease, for instance. Also, would somebody tell the employers its OK to hire people with disabilities? Seriously, try getting a job when you can't even stand up and walk, go on and just try it... Think that job is gonna pay enough to cover your care expenses in addition to all the other lifes expenses? Get real.
Agreed. Painful truth is that FDR instituded minimum wage so that we could ensure a better standard of living for the poorest among us than the communists... Irony is just amazing sometimes innit?
"Flat out ridiculous. This system is full of abuse/fraud and needs to be addressed, as do most other government 'programs'. " Agreed. I think we should start with Defense appropriations. Followed by the SEC.
"There's an old saying "beggars can't be choosers." Why does this not apply here? During the WWII food was allocated in exactly this way. My only problem with the food stamp program is that they're hand outs. If these people are going to be greedy enough to accept a handout then is it too much to ask for them to give something back such as working at the conservation corp, cleaning up trash, community service, etc?"
Ahem, they already do just that. If you're getting benefits and unemployed, you have to be doing community service and/or looking for work simultaneously. Don't show up, then you lose the food stamps (and most other things too). For some reason people don't seem to realize just how the system actually works tho, they just comment on it with political drivel.
Yes, there is that requirement here in NY also. The reforms they did here are a great idea, long overdue. That said, I'm amazed at the strawmen and political BS in so many of the comments here - there is so much being repeated that is simply untrue.
Dafuq you need a helmet for on a bicycle? That's like putting a screen door on a cow. When I was a kid the only kids that wore helmets were retards. We didn't have warning labels on everything either, back then.
If I weren't sooo lazy, I'd work a bit harder and BOOM! I'd be RICH! Why, if I weren't so lazy, I could get another job on top of my other two, and work some more! After all, I'm only working 80 hours a week and who needs sleep and recreation!
And we all know that the billionaires like Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Buffet and all them got where they are by working hard and being honest and forthright people! Anyone can do it!
We all know that all it takes here in the states is to work hard and wealth is guaranteed! Well, if it weren't for the government regulations.
I had a chemical disposal business and the fucking EEE, PEEE, AYE stopped me from disposing in the local trout stream! How the hell is one going to make a living with these communist basterds?! And this bullshit nonsense about children getting cancer and whatnot - why there's St. Judes to help them! Business and profits first and health and well being is just a socialist value! Anyway, cancer was created by socialists to punish the hard working creators and rewards the takers!
And this bullshit of "you didn't build that!" why, the private sector could do just fine building roads and highways and edukating us!
If you're poor, it's all because of your character! Yes sir! If you worked hard have decent values, you wouldn't be poor!
Poor people have poor character and they are stupid! It's all their fault! If they would just pull themselves up by their bootstraps like I did, all would be well!
I tell you, the values in this society have deteriorated. Way back when, those people would be left to starve - as they should - and it allowed for us makers to achieve and better society.
Not in New York it isn't. I can fill up a shopping cart with 100% nutritious fresh stuff for $120 here and eat off that for a month. And thats exactly what I did when I was on food stamps a few years ago. I did all my own cooking. Prepared foods are *always* more expensive.
There isn't any incentive to succeed when corporate America does everything it can to hold your wage down and ignore the fact that you spent your own money on the education that they are taking advantage of.
And then you have those who legitimately *can't* work due to medical conditions. Not everyone is being a lazy ass. Getting the right wingers to admit this is like pulling teeth tho. I hope to god that someday they are completely unable to care for themselves.
Has it occurred to you that this country is run by some incredibly cheap bastards? Like real wages adjusted for inflation have been stagnant for decades, *regardless of trying to improve*.
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Sometimes, whether you want the job actually has zero to do with anything. Sometimes you actually *need* it and you'll take it anyway or else you'll be out on the street in about 30 days. Guess what, I've spent most of my life in that position and not necessarily through any fault of my own.
If generosity worked we wouldn't even be having this discussion.
http://slashdot.org/~Michael+Kristopeit
Seems more like a flamer than a troll tho. I mean more like Roman_Mir or (back in the day) Trollaxor or JonKatz or LionKuntz....
Nah, I remember some of the trolls in the late 1990's... some of them were so subtle, it was like a good hot sauce. You didn't feel the burn till it was coming out your ass the next day, but by then it was too late. Some of the trolls back then were just that good.
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They'll just say that the legislators made the law, and nobody *made* them do it. And since the employers are not the legislators, the employers are not at fault. Its *technically* true but its still a dick move. I really don't know of any good way to hold weasels down long enough to smack them with the hammer of honesty.
I'll wager this article garners less than 100 comments. Also, WTF is all this "guile" about?
Incandescents are perfectly linear since its a purely resistive load. Electronics 101.
That was what I meant. Where are you going to get 2 infinitely long wires?
You won't.
And that is why you should have a derived definition for the Ampere. Such as coulombs per second, or volt per ohm.
Here's what I don't understand, whats so wrong about defining the Ampere in terms of coulombs per second? Or in terms of anything else for that matter? I guess I fail to see whats so bad about having the Ampere as a derived unit.
You're not the only one who remembers hiding under the desk in school... and yes there are warheads pointed at every major city. Still.
Yay, another Cold War! Now we can rebuild our economy!
They're just NOW starting to worry about this, now that it actually has a valid shot at replacing white-collar jobs???.... boohoohoo worlds tiniest violin for them. What do they think they put us guys in Manufacturing through? Yeah, some retrained, but most just disappeared.... and as always, the money flowed uphill.
You make it sound so simple.... which is how i know you've never suffered a crippling disease, for instance. Also, would somebody tell the employers its OK to hire people with disabilities? Seriously, try getting a job when you can't even stand up and walk, go on and just try it... Think that job is gonna pay enough to cover your care expenses in addition to all the other lifes expenses? Get real.
Agreed. Painful truth is that FDR instituded minimum wage so that we could ensure a better standard of living for the poorest among us than the communists... Irony is just amazing sometimes innit?
Yes, they offer nutritional advice courtesy of the Health dept. You get any number of publications depending on your situation.
"Flat out ridiculous. This system is full of abuse/fraud and needs to be addressed, as do most other government 'programs'.
"
Agreed. I think we should start with Defense appropriations. Followed by the SEC.
"There's an old saying "beggars can't be choosers." Why does this not apply here? During the WWII food was allocated in exactly this way. My only problem with the food stamp program is that they're hand outs. If these people are going to be greedy enough to accept a handout then is it too much to ask for them to give something back such as working at the conservation corp, cleaning up trash, community service, etc?"
Ahem, they already do just that. If you're getting benefits and unemployed, you have to be doing community service and/or looking for work simultaneously. Don't show up, then you lose the food stamps (and most other things too). For some reason people don't seem to realize just how the system actually works tho, they just comment on it with political drivel.
http://www.epi.org/publication/ib330-productivity-vs-compensation
Seems like they're very productive. Deal with it.
Yes, there is that requirement here in NY also. The reforms they did here are a great idea, long overdue. That said, I'm amazed at the strawmen and political BS in so many of the comments here - there is so much being repeated that is simply untrue.
Dafuq you need a helmet for on a bicycle? That's like putting a screen door on a cow. When I was a kid the only kids that wore helmets were retards. We didn't have warning labels on everything either, back then.
If I weren't sooo lazy, I'd work a bit harder and BOOM! I'd be RICH! Why, if I weren't so lazy, I could get another job on top of my other two, and work some more! After all, I'm only working 80 hours a week and who needs sleep and recreation!
And we all know that the billionaires like Mark Zuckerberg, Bill Gates, Buffet and all them got where they are by working hard and being honest and forthright people! Anyone can do it!
We all know that all it takes here in the states is to work hard and wealth is guaranteed! Well, if it weren't for the government regulations.
I had a chemical disposal business and the fucking EEE, PEEE, AYE stopped me from disposing in the local trout stream! How the hell is one going to make a living with these communist basterds?! And this bullshit nonsense about children getting cancer and whatnot - why there's St. Judes to help them! Business and profits first and health and well being is just a socialist value! Anyway, cancer was created by socialists to punish the hard working creators and rewards the takers!
And this bullshit of "you didn't build that!" why, the private sector could do just fine building roads and highways and edukating us!
If you're poor, it's all because of your character! Yes sir! If you worked hard have decent values, you wouldn't be poor!
Poor people have poor character and they are stupid! It's all their fault! If they would just pull themselves up by their bootstraps like I did, all would be well!
I tell you, the values in this society have deteriorated. Way back when, those people would be left to starve - as they should - and it allowed for us makers to achieve and better society.
Not in New York it isn't. I can fill up a shopping cart with 100% nutritious fresh stuff for $120 here and eat off that for a month. And thats exactly what I did when I was on food stamps a few years ago. I did all my own cooking. Prepared foods are *always* more expensive.
There isn't any incentive to succeed when corporate America does everything it can to hold your wage down and ignore the fact that you spent your own money on the education that they are taking advantage of.
And then you have those who legitimately *can't* work due to medical conditions. Not everyone is being a lazy ass. Getting the right wingers to admit this is like pulling teeth tho. I hope to god that someday they are completely unable to care for themselves.
Has it occurred to you that this country is run by some incredibly cheap bastards? Like real wages adjusted for inflation have been stagnant for decades, *regardless of trying to improve*.
Try again.
Its called "intelectual honesty". Try it sometime.