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Blowing Up a Pointless Job Interview

Nemo the Magnificent writes "Ever been asked a question in a job interview that's just so abysmally stupid, you're tempted to give in to the snark and blow the whole thing up? Here are suggested interview-ending answers to 16 of the stupidest questions candidates actually got asked in interviews at tech companies in 2013, according to employment site Glassdoor. Oil to pour on the burning bridges."

692 comments

  1. Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    "Do you have any weaknesses?"
    "Yes, I hate stupid interview questions"

    1. Re:Interview ending question by ifiwereasculptor · · Score: 5, Funny

      I actually did this once (did not get the job, despite being recommended by a friend who worked there):

      -Name three of your strengths.
      -Well... I'm honest and... let's see... I'm reasonably quick to spot and diagnose flaws in any given system... and I'd say I'm creative.
      -Good. And do you have any weaknesses?
      -I'm a liar.

    2. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      -I'm a liar.

      You're hired! Your new job involves lying to customers.

    3. Re:Interview ending question by TheLink · · Score: 2, Funny

      Sure: weakness to fire, earth, lightning, cold, poison and to 90% cocoa dark chocolate.

      *Note: partial list.

      --
    4. Re:Interview ending question by ifiwereasculptor · · Score: 5, Funny

      You have no idea how right you are. It was for a position in marketing.

    5. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Q: Where do you see yourself in five years?

      A: Retired.

    6. Re:Interview ending question by Black+LED · · Score: 4, Funny

      I once knew a professional trumpet player (doctor of music) who would do fake auditions for the hell of it. He bought a cheap violin, which he had no idea how to play, and would just fake it at auditions.

    7. Re:Interview ending question by K.+S.+Kyosuke · · Score: 1

      You should have said "I always lie." I mean, why not make the mental competence assessment mutual?

      --
      Ezekiel 23:20
    8. Re:Interview ending question by Penguinisto · · Score: 1

      -Good. And do you have any weaknesses?
      -I'm a liar.

      Welcome to Marketing - you'll be a very valuable addition to the team!

      --
      Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
    9. Re:Interview ending question by chipschap · · Score: 1

      I actually said this once (except it was ten years) and got the job. I pointed out that this was a "standard" interview question that didn't apply to everyone, and the interview committee liked that answer. Guess I was just lucky.

    10. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Do you have any weaknesses?"

      "Kryptonite."

    11. Re:Interview ending question by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 4, Funny

      "Do you have any weaknesses?"

      Blondes, brunettes and redheads.

      --
      I am not a crackpot.
    12. Re:Interview ending question by bi$hop · · Score: 1

      Also, I can't see through lead for some reason.

    13. Re:Interview ending question by cold+fjord · · Score: 4, Funny

      -Good. And do you have any weaknesses?
      -I'm a liar.

      Oh, you want the marketing interview, this is engineering. Down the hall, to the left.

      They may not be expecting you, but they'll want you.

      --
      much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
    14. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm the CEO of a small company and we're looking for a marketing person. I think you would be perfect. Any chance you'd be interested?

      * Yes I know I'm posting as AC.

    15. Re:Interview ending question by egcagrac0 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If it was an interview for a marketing position, then "I'm a liar" should have been listed under "strengths", and "honesty" under "weaknesses".

    16. Re:Interview ending question by Gort65 · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Do you have any weaknesses?" "Kryptonite."

      In that case, you might want to add an inability to correctly put on underwear.

    17. Re:Interview ending question by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Q: Where do you see yourself in five years?

      I answered a similar question - What is your desired future position - in the self-evaluation section of an on-line annual employes performance review once and wrote "International Space Station". It remained the pre-filled, default answer for the next five years, before it was removed by someone.

      Here's basically what I want in a job: (1a) Sufficient pay, (1b) Flexible hours, (2) Interesting work, (3) Leave me alone. If I have a problem with any of those, I'll let you know. (Been continuously employed since 1987)

      --
      It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
    18. Re: Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you a Pokemon?

    19. Re:Interview ending question by TrollstonButterbeans · · Score: 1

      "And do you have any weaknesses?
      -I'm a liar."

      Tips hat! Well played sir!

      --
      Priest: "Universe from nothing, no laws of physics, sped up time"+ huge discrepancies. Creationism? No. Big Bang Theory
    20. Re:Interview ending question by NFN_NLN · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Do you have any weaknesses?"
      "Yes, I hate stupid interview questions"

      Seen this joke but never used it.

      Q: List one of your weaknesses.
      A: I'm honest.
      Q: I don't think that's a weakness.
      A: I don't give a shit what you think.

    21. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      -Well... I'm honest and... let's see... I'm reasonably quick to spot and diagnose flaws in any given system... and I'd say I'm creative.

      Interperated:

      I'm honest - I'll complain constantly.

      I'm reasonably quick to spot and diagnose flaws in any given system - I will pick a part anything you or anyone else comes up with and will be honest (complain) constantly instead of actually working.

      I'm creative - My ideas are great, your ideas are stupid and I will complain about it constantly...honest.

    22. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it was an interview for a marketing position, then "I'm a liar" should have been listed under "strengths", and "honesty" under "weaknesses".

      Exactly! And that's why we didn't hire him. If there's one thing I can't stand, it's people putting things in the wrong pigeon-hole. Damn it!

    23. Re:Interview ending question by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      "Do you have any weaknesses?"

      At one interview I gave them a legitimate weakness as an answer. Then they asked for another weaknesses, and then a third! I was dumbfounded.

      Actually, they later said they almost hired me, except my client-side browser coding (JavaScript) was relatively weak, which was indeed true. (My experience was mostly server-side, but they wanted a desktop-like UI, not a web UI.) They learned this by asking JavaScript questions, not by my "weakness" answers.

      Thus, answering such questions honestly doesn't always appear to be a show-stopper. That particular firm appreciated honestly.

    24. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He was lying about that as well, you see.

      I wasn't going to post this but in regards to question number one, about the caliber of parade... The only correct answer when someone asks about caliber is "45 caliber"

      (capcha: rampage)
      (taking it as an omen)

    25. Re:Interview ending question by The+Grim+Reefer · · Score: 4, Informative

      I actually did this once (did not get the job, despite being recommended by a friend who worked there):

      -Name three of your strengths. -Well... I'm honest and... let's see... I'm reasonably quick to spot and diagnose flaws in any given system... and I'd say I'm creative. -Good. And do you have any weaknesses? -I'm a liar.

      I went to an interview once and the first question was, "What do you think your biggest weakness is?" It caught me off guard a little as it's an odd opening question. Almost immediately the interviewer told me there was no wrong answer to this question. I told him my biggest weakness was that I didn't particularly care for people who were stupid enough to expect me to believe obvious lies.

    26. Re:Interview ending question by cervesaebraciator · · Score: 4, Interesting

      But wouldn't that be an honest response?

    27. Re:Interview ending question by Gumbercules!! · · Score: 3

      A friend of mine was asked this back in uni, when he applied for a graduate role at some company. He replied "in your chair".

      He did not get the job.

    28. Re:Interview ending question by funwithBSD · · Score: 3, Insightful

      My stock answer to that is:

      Assuming there is no pressing issues sooner, like a micro manager, then every five years or so I evaluate if I want to stay where I am or if there is more interesting and rewarding work to be done elsewhere.

      So, what kind of company is this? One where I stay because the work is interesting and rewarding, or one where I decide it is time to examine my option?

      --
      Never answer an anonymous letter. - Yogi Berra
    29. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This article wishes it was like Family Guy.
      And to reply to you... some Family Guy.

    30. Re:Interview ending question by Nefarious+Wheel · · Score: 1

      "Do you have any weaknesses?"

      "Yes, I'm completely honest."

      "That doesn't sound like a weakness to me."

      "I don't care what the f**k you think."

      --
      Do not mock my vision of impractical footwear
    31. Re:Interview ending question by cusco · · Score: 1

      My answer, 'Doing this job via remote access from my house in Peru" was one of the reasons that I got hired at my current position. Hopefully the telecom service there will improve enough that I really can do that by then.

      --
      "Think about how stupid the average person is. Now, realise that half of them are dumber than that." - George Carlin
    32. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I should have done something like that. At some point I was asked if I knew how to build a boat, when I said I didn't, they asked me to describe the whole process to build one. This was MS.

    33. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > > "Do you have any weaknesses?"
      > Blondes, brunettes and redheads.

      Damn, you're picky!

    34. Re:Interview ending question by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Do you have any weaknesses?"

      "Wow, you ARE a rube. Look, when you read the manual -- you did read the manual didn't you?-- where it says you should try to discover any weakness in the interview candidate, it means you're supposed to be subtle, not come right out and ask. Because they candidate is NEVER going to just come right out and tell you about his weaknesses. He's here to tell you about his strengths. Or I am, which is why I'm not going to answer that question.

      "Let me see that list of questions... OH MY GOD, it actually SAYS that? Who gave you this list? That person is trying to make you look like an ass. I am so sorry you had to deal with this. Can I get you something? Oh, sorry, it's your workplace. Well, I'm sorry about that too. No one should have to put up with this."

    35. Re:Interview ending question by Gamer_2k4 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "Do you have any weaknesses?" "Yes, I hate stupid interview questions"

      I think I actually found a decent answer to this question. "I value stability so much that it sometimes acts against my best interests. For example, if I hadn't been laid off from my last job, I would've preferred to stay there as long as possible, even if it meant not looking for better jobs. The stability of an existing salaried position was too attractive to voluntarily let go."

      Paraphrased, "Yeah, my weakness is that if you hire me, I'd like to work here until I die." Hey, I got the job.

    36. Re:Interview ending question by PNutts · · Score: 4, Interesting

      And from the movies:

      Q. Can you lift 50 pounds?
      A. It depends. 50 pounds of what?

    37. Re:Interview ending question by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Great! Welcome to marketing!

      --
      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    38. Re:Interview ending question by Opportunist · · Score: 4, Funny

      *opens wallet*

      Sure! If you have some, I can even show you how I can lift and carry around 100 pounds.

      --
      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    39. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Since it's a dumb question, why not get creative?

      Q: Where do you see yourself in five years?

      A: Crawling through the tunnels under the launch pad, about to try to sneak on to a Soyuz rocket. But in case my interview with the CIA doesn't go well, I'm interviewing here as a backup.
      A: A kept boy-toy living with Scarlett Johansen working on my "screenplay."
      A: Well, after the financial crash and, ultimately, the dissolution of the USA, I'll retreat to my underground bunker where I have about 3 years worth of food stored. After some time, I'll join a collective of local survivalists who band together to increase their food supply. We'll go out in raiding parties for the next few years scavenging whatever supplies we can from the lesser-prepared survivors. I can't tell you my exact location though, as that would compromise the safety of our raiding party. Suffice it to say, you won't hear us coming and it will be over before you know it.
      A: After a chance encounter on a bus where my husky voice is recognized by an executive at an ad agency, I'll get an audition and eventually win the part of the voice over for a series of commercials advertising a new line of super-absorbent Bounty paper towels, "The Quickerer Pickerer Upper", err...but after it's revealed that the ultra absorbency is actually the result adding repurposed waste from the Fukushima reactor and a bunch of kids get cancer, they company will make me the fall guy and I'll be serving 10-20 years at a Federal correctional facility, doing an interview with 60 minutes protesting my innocence. Anderson Cooper will ask me, where did things go wrong for you and I'll think, and then eventually say, "5 years, to the day, I interviewed for a position that I didn't get. I was asked where I saw myself in 5 years and instead of a staid, boring answer like 'Happily employed here.', I tried to be a bit more creative. Everything just spiraled out of control from that point."

    40. Re:Interview ending question by q.kontinuum · · Score: 1

      -I'm a liar.

      You are hired! No, really! Quit your current job and come next Monday to sign the new contract, and I promise we will double your current salary. We will never take advantage of your unemployment by then.

      --
      Trolling is a art!
    41. Re:Interview ending question by Paradise+Pete · · Score: 5, Funny

      The only correct answer when someone asks about caliber is "45 caliber"

      My father, a larger man, once worked as a human cannonball at the circus. He hated it, but when he tried to leave they told him "You can't quit! Where would we ever find another man of your caliber?"

    42. Re:Interview ending question by q.kontinuum · · Score: 1
      My stock answer (which usually appears to be well received:

      There are no strengths or weaknesses. Just properties with positive and negative effects depending on the situation. I got this question in several interviews and always give this answer with appropriate information about my properties, and how they proved advantageous or disadvantageous

      --
      Trolling is a art!
    43. Re:Interview ending question by aaribaud · · Score: 4, Funny

      "On second thought: you're fired."

    44. Re:Interview ending question by golfnomad · · Score: 1

      Everything he says is a lie (Spock's Brain)

    45. Re:Interview ending question by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      You should have said "I always lie." I mean, why not make the mental competence assessment mutual?

      One way to check if your interviewer is actually a robot of some kind.

      --
      Wanna buy a shirt?
      https://www.redbubble.com/people/stealthfinger/shop?asc=u
    46. Re:Interview ending question by serviscope_minor · · Score: 4, Funny

      Q: Where do you see yourself in five years?

      On the other side of the table, asking much less stupid interview questions.

      --
      SJW n. One who posts facts.
    47. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I cant work with stupid people"

      What will happens if you ever answer that?

    48. Re:Interview ending question by HetMes · · Score: 3, Funny

      You absolutely have to follow that with "Is that going to be a problem here?"

    49. Re:Interview ending question by nospam007 · · Score: 3, Funny

      "-Name three of your strengths."

      1. Fear
      2. Surprise
      3. An almost fanatical devotion to the pope.

    50. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you have any weaknesses?

      Honesty.

      > I think honesty is good.

      I don't give a fuck what you think.

    51. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Do you have any weaknesses?"

      "Does an waking obsession with midget porn count as a weakness?"

    52. Re:Interview ending question by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

      Everything he says is a lie (Spock's Brain)

      BZZZT! I'm sorry. That is incorrect.

      The correct attribution is I, Mudd.

      --
      This space unintentionally left blank.
    53. Re:Interview ending question by Scarletdown · · Score: 2

      "-Name three of your strengths."

      1. Fear
      2. Surprise
      3. An almost fanatical devotion to the pope.

      As an interviewer, that answer would then result in me ad libbing the next question...which wouldn't really be a question.

      Ni! Ni!-Ni-Ni!

      Then see how you react.

      --
      This space unintentionally left blank.
    54. Re:Interview ending question by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

      Do you have any weaknesses?

      Honesty.

      > I think honesty is good.

      I don't give a fuck what you think.

      Don't forget to whip out the slasher glove and kill the interviewer.

      --
      This space unintentionally left blank.
    55. Re:Interview ending question by turtledawn · · Score: 1

      Oh I like that one!

      --
      Uh, "if it looks roughly mouse-shaped according to my infra-red sensitive pit, eat it"? --Chris Burke 09-08-10
    56. Re:Interview ending question by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Or in the context of an interview, try "your mum".

      --
      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    57. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The BBC took down the youtube, but Keith's review in the Office went something like:

      Brent: Under strengths you've just put "accounts". Under weakenesses you've put "eczerma".

    58. Re:Interview ending question by coofercat · · Score: 1

      And should anyone ever, ever ask you "why do you work here?", be sure to respond "er... cheap, lack ambition and live local?"

    59. Re:Interview ending question by MachineShedFred · · Score: 2

      A: celebrating the 5 year anniversary of you asking me that question!

      --
      Slashdot still doesnâ(TM)t support Unicode after it was added to the HTML standard in 1997.
    60. Re:Interview ending question by MooseDontBounce · · Score: 1

      I once responded to the 'do you have any weaknesses' question with 'I believe weakness is an excuse for failure. You need to turn the perceived weakness into a strength.' I been working here almost 10 years.

    61. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Q: Where do you see yourself in five years?

      Celebrating the 5th-year anniversary of you asking me this question.
      -- Mitch Hedberg

    62. Re:Interview ending question by ILongForDarkness · · Score: 1

      Yes: I don't like discussing my personal shortcomings with total strangers.

    63. Re:Interview ending question by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      See, I have 2 other desires in a job: (4) Competent coworkers. (5) Sane and competent management.

      So far, I've gotten (4) several times, but never seen (5) in action, in my decade-long career.

      --
      I am officially gone from /. Long live http://www.soylentnews.com/
    64. Re:Interview ending question by CanHasDIY · · Score: 1

      "-Name three of your strengths."

      1. Fear
      2. Surprise
      3. An almost fanatical devotion to the pope.

      ... I was not expecting that.

      --
      An enigma, wrapped in a riddle, shrouded in bacon and cheese
    65. Re:Interview ending question by ruir · · Score: 1

      I answered that one in a very stupid interview with an "IT" manager in a position for Dubain asking me a string of stupid and possibly some illegal questions, as if I were migrating single or with company ... I really dont care where I am in 5 years, have you looked at my CV? I already have done much of what I want.

    66. Re: Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ill clue you in, since you can't seem to even buy one.

      It's an question to measure how much BS a candidate will shovel your way. Whether or not they give a long winded answer to try to talk their way out of it or try to answer reasonably honestly by giving away some minor weakness.

      I could really care less about the actual weakness given (less its shocking), because its not the point of the question.

    67. Re:Interview ending question by enrevanche · · Score: 1

      These days this is a requirement for all positions.

    68. Re:Interview ending question by ruir · · Score: 1

      Hmmm Gibraltar. I dont even wonder where "Dubain" came from. And the so called IT manager had to bring a very rookie indian tech to ask me more stupid questions like "what is TCP/IP", which were completely inappropriate questions for the level of expertise needed for that post.

    69. Re:Interview ending question by EvilAlphonso · · Score: 1

      He may not have lied...

      I usually ask a variation of that question... What's something you see about yourself as a potential weakness for this role?

      The question is open enough that you don't need to pick your worst weakness. I actually don't really care about the potential weakness, I expect the candidate to be mature enough to be honest/candid and to come up with an improvement plan or a way to work around the weakness. Answering "I don't have any weakness" is usually a sure way to be put in the circular filing device.

    70. Re:Interview ending question by Peter+Simpson · · Score: 1

      "What is there about you that you would rather I didn't know?"

      "I'd be pretty stupid to tell you, wouldn't I?"

    71. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good morning! *rings tiny bell and stares expectantly*

    72. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dont you get in trouble for sexism by reading pornographic magazines in the office in the states?

    73. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Reminds me of a joke my grandfather used to tell (that I will try to put in written form):

      The best salesman in the world summons his son on his 18th birthday and says, "This is the second best advice I will ever give you. The way to be the best salesman is to make every sentence that comes out of your mouth is a lie that you honestly believe is grounded in truth by an amount I will tell you on my deathbed."

      The son becomes a great salesman himself. A true rival to his old man. However, 40 years later, the father gets sick and summons his son to his bedside at 8 P.M. "My son," he says with heavy breath, "It is... time because I.. only have 5 minutes... left."

      "Are you finally going to tell me how much I should connect my lies to the truth?"

      "Yes. The secret... (gasp) amount is... is.... (pained inhale) is..." The old man takes a moment to gather himself, summons his last remaining strength, exclaims "PURPLE!" and dies at 8:02P.M.

    74. Re:Interview ending question by clarkn0va · · Score: 1

      Q: Where do you see yourself in five years?

      I was once asked that in an interview with my supervisor's supervisor (a VP where I was already employed). I gave an honest and ambitious answer and was promoted on the spot.

      If you're truly happy with "(1a) Sufficient pay, (1b) Flexible hours, (2) Interesting work, (3) Leave me alone", then that question doesn't really require a thoughtful answer, but let's not pretend that there aren't supervisors and employees out there who can have a meaningful discussion about goals. That question is entirely appropriate in some job interviews, performance reviews, and succession planning-type situations.

      --
      I am literally 3000 tokens away from the chaotic crossbow --Stephen
    75. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "It'll be as easy as shooting fish from a barrel."

    76. Re:Interview ending question by JoeCommodore · · Score: 1

      1 - Get the job
      2 - ?
      3 - Profit!

      --
      "Enjoy what you're doing! If it becomes drudgery, you're doing it wrong!" - Jim Butterfield
    77. Re: Interview ending question by chaboud · · Score: 1

      More than that, in most companies I've been with, if you are unable to answer the "what are your weaknesses" or "what is your largest professional mistake" question, you're out. Even if the rest of the loop didn't catch on to what a self-satisfied dope you are, your failure to answer that question is enough to let us know that:

      - You have an ego problem, or
      - You don't have a solid memory for (and learn from) failures, or
      - You have no real experience, or
      - You are an absolutely impossible rock star who doesn't know how to fail or have deficiencies.

      We take the relatively safe bet that the last one is a really small proportion. (i.e. zero people) of the population.

    78. Re: Interview ending question by stokessd · · Score: 1

      This happened to me a couple months ago. I was on a phone interview with Cree for a PhD level position and the interviewer was saying it was a night shift position and that this position expected a work level of 55-65 hours a week.

      I almost said "we're done here". But I had jumped through so many hoops to get to this point that I was going to let this play out.

      After a half hour of questions and answers he asked if I had any questions. My chance! I asked if he was willing to pay me at least 150% of my current salary plus cost of living differential. Because he is expecting me to work 60 hours a week. I also added that this assumes that it's a linear relationship (which it's not). He said, "that depends on how the interview goes". I said, "I guess we have the answer then".

      An offer letter was not forthcoming.

    79. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Here's basically what I want in a job: (1a) Sufficient pay, (1b) Flexible hours, (2) Interesting work, (3) Leave me alone. If I have a problem with any of those, I'll let you know. (Been continuously employed since 1987)

      Those are high standards. Here's basically what I want in a job: (1a) Legal minimum wage, (1b) Being paid for the hours I work, (2) Not being assigned additional work without additional pay unless I find the additional work interesting, (3) Any legal disputes about points 1 and 2 are to be resolved in a court of law. (Been mostly unemployed since the late '90s)

      Since the guilty deserve to be publicly shamed, the companies that have a problem with these demands include Edgewave, Metrodigi, and Metier.

    80. Re: Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nobody expects the spanish inquisitie!

    81. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Q: Where do you see yourself in five years?

      A: In a mirror!

    82. Re:Interview ending question by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 1

      but let's not pretend that there aren't supervisors and employees out there who can have a meaningful discussion about goals. That question is entirely appropriate in some job interviews, performance reviews, and succession planning-type situations.

      Sure, I get that, but many, many times employee evaluations are masturbation exercises meant to make the sheep feel good - especially now, in a down economy, when companies are narrowly focused on being "competitive" - mean they only pay/provide the minimum they think required (regardless of their up earnings and stock performance).

      Personally, my job doesn't define me and I don't really have any "goals" except to provide the best quality work that both I can do and that can be done - for personal/professional integrity reasons. I'm now 50, live responsibly and (way) under my means, and have been financially independent for over 10 years for my current and foreseeable future - even w/o a job. I'm not rich, but don't *ever* have to work again. I continue to work because (a) I'd be bored otherwise, (b) my team relies on me, (c) my wife died 8 years ago (on Jan 13) and I haven't figured out what else to do with my life, because *she* was my life.

      To each their own. I understand that I am, and my situation is, unusual.

      --
      It must have been something you assimilated. . . .
    83. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      -Name three of your strengths.

      -I'm reliable, I'm effecient, and I always think of a third thing to put on lists.

    84. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My wife got this question from an interviewer who had already shown himself to be an idiot. She said:

      “I'm not clairvoyant, I have a low threshold for fatuousness, and I don't suffer fools gladly.”

      At which point she walked out.

    85. Re:Interview ending question by CAIMLAS · · Score: 2

      You're precisely the kind of person I wouldn't want to hire. Why?

      In my experience, the people who stay at a job (at least, an IT job) for more than 3 to 4 years start to languish pretty severely. Their skills get dull, their vision grows narrow, and they become a 'specialist' - usually a specialist of a very small subset of technology, and they lose much of their utility or ability to do things like troubleshoot or think outside the box.

      Stability is great, as long as it doesn't lead to stasis. Every organization does need the "long stays", but arguably someone who "gets comfortable" in a position lacks the drive to self-improve.

      (It's another story if the employer encourages internal advancement/improvement and that is expected from both sides when the position is taken...)

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    86. Re:Interview ending question by Larryish · · Score: 1

      Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

    87. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've done something like this in the IT field. I found those jobs were the best ones. Not only is fun, since there's no pressure to perform and achieve, but it also provides interviewing experience, some excitement and change of routine. I was hired into two different positions that I enjoyed. I recommend it highly.

    88. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Careful. This is a dangerous response in a rapidly evolving industry. (IE anything tech related)

    89. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I worked for Federal Express in the 1980s and 1990s. If you said, "in your chair", you were rated up and stood a better chance of getting the position. FedEx was growing at the time and they wanted people to move up and move over. They encouraged employees to change departments, divisions, locations. They wanted to have cross trained employees who understood as much of the work as an employee could. This was still during their entrepreneurial years and they wanted to produce a lot of creative-in-any-job people.

    90. Re:Interview ending question by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry. But if you want to continue this interview, you will have to pay for another five minutes.

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    91. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Q: Where do you see yourself in five years?

      I have always had the secret fantasy of answering "In five years, I see myself working for a company where I don't have to answer questions such as 'Where do you see yourself in five years?'". Some day I will.

    92. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Q: Where do you see yourself in five years?

      Usually, when I take a good look at myself, I go to the bathroom. It's an appropriate place to strip naked, and there's a mirror in there. I don't see how five years would change this, except that maybe by that point I will have purchased a body-length mirror for my bedroom. I don't think I'd buy one at a store, but maybe I'd get one if my neighbors were having a garage sale and had one for a good price.

    93. Re:Interview ending question by JWSmythe · · Score: 1

      .50 BMG is preferred for parades. While more expensive, it will save in the long run. That, and you won't risk being trampled by spectators running away.

      --
      Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
    94. Re:Interview ending question by sconeu · · Score: 1

      Dear people who insert politics into everything... To make life easier for you I have scripts that automate your responses.

      Democrat:

      cat gop_sayings | sed -e s/Bush/Obama/ -e s/Obama/Bush/

      Republican:

      cat dem_sayings | sed -e s/Bush/Obama/ -e s/Obama/Bush/

      --
      General Relativity: Space-time tells matter where to go; Matter tells space-time what shape to be.
    95. Re:Interview ending question by Phil+Urich · · Score: 1

      Not that I disagree with you, but then, is not "I don't have any weaknesses" a wrong answer? In which case the interviewer is still lying.

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      I remember sigs. Oh, a simpler time!
    96. Re:Interview ending question by Zynder · · Score: 1

      NO ONE expects the lying salesman!

    97. Re:Interview ending question by zxsqkty · · Score: 1

      So did he quit, or was he fired?

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    98. Re:Interview ending question by turp182 · · Score: 1

      I'm with you, I value stability. At my last job, I left a team as a senior developer and moved to a special project where I learned Informatica and ERWin to expand my knowledge base. But after a while they wanted all of my time, mandatory Saturdays were already in effect, they were considering Sundays. I was told my attitude wasn't working as I wasn't putting in 12 hour days. Eventually I left with a negotiated settlement (14 years with the company or its parent, talk about stability...).

      Getting a new job took a couple of days (I had weeks to figure things out due to the settlement), and I've been there for over two years now. And I'm now working for the Architect, and mostly designing, prototyping, and developing special projects. The job switch ended up being hugely beneficial.

      I know I could get more money. But I'm happy being highly respected and working on interesting things (no longer stuck in the support role). I also learn the business wherever I am, and this results in a lot of exposure to C-level folks. My ultimate goal is an architecture position, which I should qualify for in a couple of years.

      I valued stability even before I had kids (those 14 years). Now it is a requirement because kids are creators of instability and the complete loss of free time.

      Anyway, I have to make dinner...

      --
      BlameBillCosby.com
    99. Re:Interview ending question by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      Q: Where do you see yourself in five years?

      A: In a mirror!

      A mirror 2.5 light years away!

      --
      "City hall" in German is "Rathaus" Kinda explains a few things......
    100. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I was interviewing at eBay many, many moons ago. I was asked a brain teaser, but I think she asked it wrong. In any event, I was providing the wrong answer and was totally stumped.

      At that point I was tired of the brain teasers and stupid questions. So I turned the tables. I began asking _her_ brain teasers. Of course she couldn't answer them, either. And boy was she pissed at me for making her look stupid.

      Brain teasers are kind of useless in interviews. I've been tested twice by psychologists and have an IQ around 150, so I'm not completely stupid (although sometimes I feel that way). The problem with brain teasers in an interview is that your mind is over stimulated from the interview process, they usually phrase them poorly, and the teasers are often wrong or misleading to begin with.

      There really is no decent way to interview somebody. I suspect it would be hard to do better than probationary periods after a very basic filtering process. The problem is that people hate firing people.

      My preferred way to interview candidates is to actually read their code. When I get a copy of their resume I'll google them hoping to see if they've done any open source work. If that fails, I'll ask them for some of their actual code via e-mail. Either way I want to come to the interview prepared.

      Sadly too few people can provide examples of their real code--not just snippets--so in practice it's not a very viable strategy.

    101. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't get it.

    102. Re: Interview ending question by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 1

      Ill clue you in, since you can't seem to even buy one.

      It's an question to measure how much BS a candidate will shovel your way. Whether or not they give a long winded answer to try to talk their way out of it or try to answer reasonably honestly by giving away some minor weakness.

      I could really care less about the actual weakness given (less its shocking), because its not the point of the question.

      I think you really could not.

    103. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      "Do you have any weaknesses?"

      "Low tensile strength, vulnerable to temperature embrittlement, flash point of only a few hundred degrees".

    104. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "On second thought: you're fired."

      Second thought?

      Wasn't that a part of his job description?

    105. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's funny, cause the same question was asked to me and I gave the same answer, and I got the job !

    106. Re:Interview ending question by Maritz · · Score: 1

      The 'almost' qualifier would lose you that job if I was interviewing. Tsk.

      --
      I do not want your cheap brainburning drugs. They are useless for work. And I am a working man today.
    107. Re:Interview ending question by Vitriol+Angst · · Score: 1

      If I have a space ship that can travel the speed of light, with a sufficiently powerful telescope, I could see myself sitting right here in this chair in 5 years and 5 light years away, answering a stupid question.

      --
      >>"ad space available -- low rates!!!"
    108. Re: Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jay Carney's only qualification...

    109. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ... and a night out on the sea with the navy. Oohhhhhhhh that was four!

    110. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "On a remote beach drinking expensive liquor with my beautiful wife."

      If you're going to have delusions of grandeur, may as well go for the really satisfying ones, right? (Or, if you wanted realistic answers, you should specify that in the question.)

    111. Re:Interview ending question by wolja · · Score: 1

      "Do you have any weaknesses?"
      "Yes, I hate stupid interview questions"

      Oddly this stupid question got me a job once I used it to explain why I was so unemotional in interviews.

      Still a stupid question but..

      --
      Wolja Future Tombstone: Shit happened then I died
    112. Re:Interview ending question by Dabido · · Score: 1

      Never tell them you're honest. It's not a strength. It means you'll whistle blow on them as soon as you find out all the dirty illegal crap they are doing. No wonder you didn't get the job. :-)

      --
      Sure enough, the cow costume was hanging up next to the superhero outfit and sailors uniform. (S,Spud)
    113. Re:Interview ending question by EvilAlphonso · · Score: 1

      That's actually a fair point... maybe it should be modified to "there is no wrong honest answer to this question" :)

    114. Re:Interview ending question by Marxist+Hacker+42 · · Score: 1

      I think you picked the wrong decade, given the political situation. Competent management requires making decisions on some basis other than rank fear.

      --
      SJW: a person who perceives an injustice, and while correcting it, commits a greater injustice.
    115. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Just because you're a liar doesn't mean you have to lie All the time :P

    116. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha. That's hilarious. I got to try that one.

    117. Re:Interview ending question by steve42lawson · · Score: 1

      "Q. Can you lift 50 pounds?" A. You don't have 50 pounds [I checked].

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      Ummmm... can't think of anything...
    118. Re:Interview ending question by steve42lawson · · Score: 1
      "Q. Can you lift 50 pounds?"

      A. You don't have 50 pounds [I checked].

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      Ummmm... can't think of anything...
    119. Re: Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interviewer: What would you say is your biggest weakness?
      Me: I'm too honest.
      Interviewer: I don't think that's a weakness.
      Me: I couldn't give a f#ck what you think.

    120. Re: Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or you're asking shitty interview questions.

    121. Re: Interview ending question by chaboud · · Score: 1

      Wait, did I interview and bounce you?

      I mean, sheesh. Just give me a bad yelp review. AC on a stale /. story? Sad...

      Worse if I gave you a thumbs up...

    122. Re:Interview ending question by smhsmh · · Score: 1

      My answer would have been:

      "Not caring what my biggest weaknesses are."

    123. Re:Interview ending question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Think you need a spaceship that goes faster than light to accomplish this, no?

  2. Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Somewhat interesting concept, but those were really lame.

    Then again, the closest I have done was when asked if I had any experience with clearcase or rhapsody. My response was something along the lines of "yes, but I've been trying to put that behind me".

    1. Re:Tame and lame by ifiwereasculptor · · Score: 5, Funny

      Seconded. Incredibly lame answers. He missed the obvious answer to #3:

      3) "If you were a pizza delivery man, how would you benefit from scissors?" -- Apple, Specialist interview.

      That would mostly depend on which neighborhoods I'd be delivering to. I suppose I could feel a bit safer, though since almost every robber has a gun, now, I'm not sure scissors would cut it. (for best results, interrupt the next question with "get it? 'cut it'", then maintain a blank stare for as long as possible)

    2. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seconded. Incredibly lame answers. He missed the obvious answer to #3:

      3) "If you were a pizza delivery man, how would you benefit from scissors?" -- Apple, Specialist interview.

      That would mostly depend on which neighborhoods I'd be delivering to. I suppose I could feel a bit safer, though since almost every robber has a gun, now, I'm not sure scissors would cut it. (for best results, interrupt the next question with "get it? 'cut it'", then maintain a blank stare for as long as possible)

      ... That was obvious?

    3. Re:Tame and lame by Penguinisto · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually, that question, while itself lame, does serve a purpose if the job requires creativity. They want to watch your come up with something different, and do it outside your comfort zone. If the interviewers are sharp enough, it will also give them a clue as to how you would fit into their culture.

      In my current job (originally as a sysadmin, now DevOps)? I went through a battery of technical grilling, then I was asked point-blank:

      "Is there intelligent life in Outer Space"?

      I answered yes, then asked to defend my position. I spent the next 45 minutes in back-and-forth debate involving my bringing out Drake's Equation, panspermia, extrapolation of odds, and many other related topics.

      I got the job, and quickly discovered the reason why... the company is chock-full of full-on geeks, many of whom have a passion for their respective skills, and share many common cultural touchpoints, which allowed me to fit in perfectly.

      It's stuff like that which you really cannot pick up on by asking dumb crap like "what is your greatest weakness."

      --
      Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
    4. Re:Tame and lame by lgw · · Score: 1

      I've had fun with the "why are manhole covers round" question in an interview before. If you've never read the fake Richard Feynman answer, it's worth a google.

      I did think "why are tennis balls fuzzy" was a quite reasonable question - better than "why are manhole covers round", anyhow, as the expected answer to the latter is simply wrong ("so they don't fall through the hole": there are many kinds and shapes of covers and grates each with an each solution to that problem).

      "How honest are you" is just begging for it. There's a famous case of a professor of logic who, when asked if he had ever told a lie, thought for a long time and then answered "yes". I still don't get "Have you ever been on a boat?" for a graphic designer. What is that I don't even?

      --
      Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
    5. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Personally, between you and me, without the scissors, I don't think I'd cut it as a pizza delivery man.

    6. Re:Tame and lame by mattie_p · · Score: 4, Informative

      Answer: Yes.

      Rationale: There is an International Space Station currently in what is commonly known as space. This is manned by astro/cosmo/nauts, which are a subset of an intelligent species. Therefore, yes.

    7. Re:Tame and lame by noh8rz10 · · Score: 2

      Answer: I hope so! I certainly haven't seen any around here; I'd like to think that it exists somewhere.

    8. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      That's a shame if it's true. Hiring based on cultural bias is roughly equivalent to nepotism. I hope you're wrong, and it was more based on skill or talent displayed.

    9. Re:Tame and lame by arth1 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Since when did low earth orbit qualify as "outer space"?

    10. Re:Tame and lame by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      "How honest are you" is just begging for it. There's a famous case of a professor of logic who, when asked if he had ever told a lie, thought for a long time and then answered "yes".

      Did he say that so people who don't understand logic but heard about it on a stupid website somewhere would say "hey, I see what you did there!"

    11. Re:Tame and lame by NFN_NLN · · Score: 4, Funny

      3) "If you were a pizza delivery man, how would you benefit from scissors?" -- Apple, Specialist interview.

      It was a trick question to determine how much shame you have. The answer would be to jam them in your throat and hope you are reincarnated into a better life.

    12. Re:Tame and lame by lgw · · Score: 1

      One imagines he possessed a sense of humor, and was poking gentle fun at obsessive literalist geeks.

      --
      Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
    13. Re:Tame and lame by gznork26 · · Score: 4, Informative

      Round? I lived in Nashua, New Hampshire for a while. The manhole covers there are triangular. The reason given is that if they are placed on edge, they won't roll away.

    14. Re:Tame and lame by lgw · · Score: 2, Insightful

      "Fit with group" is a completely reasonable hiring criterion.

      --
      Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
    15. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative
    16. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had a job interview in West Michigan that I completely crushed, technically speaking. I didn't get the job, so I called the hiring manager (who was about 5 years my senior) and asked point blank why they hadn't wanted to hire me. Turns out I wasn't a "good personality fit." Really? We didn't go out for beers. How could he even know that? He had spent the interview practically insulting my mother and my side of the state (Southeast Michigan). It really seemed like this guy would only hire relatively young, white men who shared a quite narrow worldview. West Michigan is an odd place: so beautiful, yet so populated with crazy people.

    17. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Most space treaties use the Karman Line as the beginning of outer space, which starts at 100 km above sea level. The ISS orbits at 370km and is therefore literally hundreds of km's into deep space.

    18. Re:Tame and lame by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Perhaps he muffed up the line because he was too busy thinking to himself "god, I wish when people retold my jokes they'd get them right."

    19. Re:Tame and lame by dalias · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Yeah, keep telling yourself that. Especially when "the group" has a particular existing racial and gender makeup...

    20. Re:Tame and lame by strength_of_10_men · · Score: 5, Funny

      3) "If you were a pizza delivery man, how would you benefit from scissors?" -- Apple, Specialist interview.

      "Well, I would still have to watch out for rock, but I wouldn't be very afraid of paper."

    21. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Answer: I would the cut slices from the pizza in the shape of an apple. I would then call it an iPizza and then raise the price of the pizza 10 fold. All while reassuring the customer that the iPizza tastes much better than a non iPizza. If the customer does not think the iPizza tastes better I will remind the customer that they were holding the iPizza wrong and to taste again.

    22. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, keep telling yourself that. Especially when "the group" has a particular existing racial and gender makeup...

      So what you're saying is that you would not hire a racist homophobe because he doesn't fit in with your group. Hypocrite.

    23. Re:Tame and lame by lgw · · Score: 2

      Look, work should be about some reasonable combination of productivity and enjoyment. A team that gets along well together is more fun and more productive than a team where everyone thinks the other guy is an asshole. Of course you can go too far - you can go to far with anything in life - that's hardly insightful. But as one among many criteria? It's probably a good one.

      --
      Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
    24. Re:Tame and lame by funwithBSD · · Score: 1

      What about lizard?

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      Never answer an anonymous letter. - Yogi Berra
    25. Re:Tame and lame by lgw · · Score: 1

      What are you going on about? Assuming he had the sort of presence where the questioner might believe he had never lied before (it's an old story), that's the most amusing possible answer.

      --
      Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
    26. Re:Tame and lame by Zero__Kelvin · · Score: 1

      "I answered yes, then asked to defend my position. I spent the next 45 minutes in back-and-forth debate involving my bringing out Drake's Equation, panspermia, extrapolation of odds, and many other related topics."

      Epic Fail. The argument that there is in fact intelligent life in Outer Space is actually, much, much simpler than you made it out to be.

      --
      Guns don't kill people; Physics kills people! - John Lithgow as Dick Solomon on Third Rock From The Sun
    27. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Lol, Gaijin.

    28. Re:Tame and lame by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The word "culture" in this context is in reference to corporate culture.

      Corporate culture is an amorphous mixture of personality, motivation, lifestyle, methods, and work ethic. Work somewhere that matches yours, and you do very well. Work somewhere that does not, and you will either gain ulcers, ruin your career, and eventually get fired, laid-off, or worse.

      Each company has a different approach to how they work. Part of it is due to the industry they're in, part of it is due to the job type, some of it by ideology, and all of it is driven by the leadership.

      Take for instance Nike. They're headquartered in nearby Beaverton, OR. They have a work-hard/play-hard culture, and expect their employees to be the same. It is a very Type-A organization. I went after an opening they had, but the interview told me that I would be expected to dump any thought of a home life, quit smoking, and essentially compete with my co-workers for everything. Oh, and did I mention that the prevailing political ideology is strongly promulgated, and it is a diametric opposite of my own? Long-term prospects there would require me to essentially abandon what I am and who I am - unless I'm otherwise facing homelessness, no dice.

      I've worked at such organizations before... they suck, and I don't fit into them, so I turned it down.

      *That* is what I mean by culture.

      --
      Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
    29. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Proper resonses to this is: Coupons. Your customers use them to cut them out.

    30. Re:Tame and lame by Golddess · · Score: 1

      Scissors decapitates lizard. It's Spock he'd have to worry about.

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      "I'm not sure I like the fugnutish tone you used in your post!" -RogL (608926)-
    31. Re:Tame and lame by davester666 · · Score: 1

      I would like you to meet Richard Branson of VirginGalactic...

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    32. Re:Tame and lame by Opportunist · · Score: 0

      Play the race and gender card all you want, but a fact remains a fact: People are biased, sterotyping assholes. No matter how politically correct they plan to be or how "open" and "liberal" they claim to be. When it comes down to making friends with people and hanging out with them, they will go for whoever fits in with their interests, their background, their intellectual and ideological makeup and so on. I have had my share of trying to "fit in" with people who have a very different background. It's been not very much fun for either side.

      I prefer working with people I can relate to. I spend about half my waking hours with them, and hence I do have a certain interest in enjoying that time. You will find very little talk about the latest football results in our breaks, but we recently had a very interesting discussion about how to build a cheap brain wave input device. Now, that's something you kinda have to have some sort of interest in or you'll be feeling not only left out but bored out of your skull.

      And, as you may expect, I don't care about someone's race, gender, sexual preference or religion (though a of the latter seems to help with the ability to ponder certain topics). What I do care about is that these people fit in. We're in there for more than just the money, we have to rely on each other and that does to some extent mean that we have to like each other.

      --
      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    33. Re:Tame and lame by dcollins117 · · Score: 1

      "Is there intelligent life in Outer Space"?

      My response would be "I don't even see signs of intelligent life in this office."

      I may not get the job, but I don't want to work with someone dumb enough to ask stupid questions in a job interview, either.

    34. Re:Tame and lame by drkim · · Score: 1

      Since when did low earth orbit qualify as "outer space"?

      Since when did humans qualify as "intelligent life"?

    35. Re:Tame and lame by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 1

      I was thinking:
      "To stab anyone who plays rock."

    36. Re:Tame and lame by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      I'm more interested in how a bunch of humans are a subset of an "intelligent" species.

    37. Re:Tame and lame by stealth_finger · · Score: 0

      I had a job interview in West Michigan that I completely crushed, technically speaking. I didn't get the job, so I called the hiring manager (who was about 5 years my senior) and asked point blank why they hadn't wanted to hire me. Turns out I wasn't a "good personality fit." Really? We didn't go out for beers. How could he even know that? He had spent the interview practically insulting my mother and my side of the state (Southeast Michigan). It really seemed like this guy would only hire relatively young, white men who shared a quite narrow worldview. West Michigan is an odd place: so beautiful, yet so populated with crazy people.

      From just that one paragraph I can tell you're not the sort of person I would want to work with regardless of technical skill in whatever field. To be honest, probably the better you are at it, the more of an insufferable twat you become.

      --
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    38. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Depends. In close-combat range, I would push his gun to the side and stick the pair of scissors in his eye sockets. He never knows what hit him before it's too late.
      Under the assumption I have the pair of scissors ready in hand, this can be done in under a second.
      They would even "cut it" really well in this case, since at least to my knowledge, eyes are soft and so easy to cut, or rather easy to puncture.

    39. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seconded. Incredibly lame answers. He missed the obvious answer to #3:

      3) "If you were a pizza delivery man, how would you benefit from scissors?" -- Apple, Specialist interview.

      I would use them to cut out the job ads in the newspaper.

    40. Re:Tame and lame by socode · · Score: 1

      > People are biased, sterotyping assholes.
      Indeed.

    41. Re:Tame and lame by Scarletdown · · Score: 1

      Why didn't you come right out and tell him that when he first called and asked why he wasn't hired? :D

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    42. Re:Tame and lame by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Interesting

      That sort of thing is illegal in the UK, and the entire EU I believe although doubtless there is some regional variation. The law is that workplaces must provide a reasonable environment for all employees.

      If you desperately need a job or simply move office within a company and find yourself in a "culture" that is hostile to you and which requires, as in your example, an unhealthy and discriminatory work-life balance (discriminatory because clearly no single parent or person with an illness/disability that limits their ability to work long hours would ever be able to take it) then the company needs to change it.

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      const int one = 65536; (Silvermoon, Texture.cs)
      SJW, n: "Someone I don't like, and by the way I'm a fuckwit" - AC
    43. Re:Tame and lame by necro81 · · Score: 3, Funny

      So what you're saying is that you would not hire a racist homophobe because he doesn't fit in with your group. Hypocrite.

      That's because I just can't tolerate intolerance!

    44. Re:Tame and lame by BVis · · Score: 4, Insightful

      If you desperately need a job or simply move office within a company and find yourself in a "culture" that is hostile to you and which requires, as in your example, an unhealthy and discriminatory work-life balance (discriminatory because clearly no single parent or person with an illness/disability that limits their ability to work long hours would ever be able to take it) then the company needs to change it.

      Welcome to America, where the beatings will continue until morale improves. What you describe is "being competitive".

      Employers have no incentive to treat their people like human beings. The next guy treats his employees just as badly, and if you find yourself someplace where they treat you like a human being, you're getting ripped off in terms of pay/benefits. Seriously, employers are like car salesmen here; they know they can treat you like shit because the next guy is just as bad. Oh, and medical insurance, you have none if you quit.

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    45. Re:Tame and lame by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      But in nearby Manchester, they vary between round and square.

      The simplest argument for round: If you have to move them to get down under the street to fix something, you can roll them back into place instead of lifting them. That whole "wheel" thingy was a great idea, wasn't it?

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    46. Re:Tame and lame by Cruciform · · Score: 1

      Scissors are good for cutting pizzas. But as someone who is not working in a clean kitchen environment while driving, if the cooks forgot to cut the pizza and the recipient complained, I'd just suggest their own scissors as a quick fix.

    47. Re:Tame and lame by Pope · · Score: 1

      Funny, I always place manhole covers flat on the street!

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    48. Re:Tame and lame by PRMan · · Score: 2

      "Is there intelligent life in Outer Space"?

      Yes, God. And now since you've asked me a religious question, you'd better have some other really good reason for not hiring me...

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    49. Re:Tame and lame by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      Why was I modded flamebait? I simply stated the situation in the UK and the EU. Is the UK's employment law flamebait?

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    50. Re:Tame and lame by Mysticeti · · Score: 1

      I'm not sure who gave you that reason but it's not the one I heard.

      http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/news/969523-196/city-inevitably-must-replace-unique-triangular-manhole.html

      The triangular covers were first built by the Nashua Foundry in the 1920s or 1930s at the suggestion of an engineer named Walter Ellis, who thought the triangular shape would rattle less than traditional circles. The triangles are aligned to point in the direction of flow for the underlying sewer line, a valuable piece of information for sewer workers hunting down problems.

    51. Re:Tame and lame by Chemisor · · Score: 1

      For a baseball team...

    52. Re:Tame and lame by gznork26 · · Score: 1

      Thanks. Using the covers to give an indication of flow makes a lot more sense.

    53. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Doesn't really matter. Earth in is outer space also, so strictly speaking so is anything on or near Earth's surface. (much the same way that if I put a ring in a box and the box in my car the ring is "in the car".)

    54. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Seconded. Incredibly lame answers. He missed the obvious answer to #3:

      3) "If you were a pizza delivery man, how would you benefit from scissors?" -- Apple, Specialist interview.

      That would mostly depend on which neighborhoods I'd be delivering to. I suppose I could feel a bit safer, though since almost every robber has a gun, now, I'm not sure scissors would cut it. (for best results, interrupt the next question with "get it? 'cut it'", then maintain a blank stare for as long as possible)

      If I were to encounter any paper i'd be parroted... though rocks would still be an impediment.

    55. Re:Tame and lame by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      Why would he have to think about it? I have a hard time believing there is a single adult on this entire planet who has never told a single lie.

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    56. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Is there intelligent life in outer space? Yes. How do you know? They have already scouted Earth and Marked it "do not visit or go near", hence they have intelligence and that's why we have never seen or contacted them. They're distant cousin of Big Foot.

    57. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I had a job interview in West Michigan that I completely crushed, technically speaking. I didn't get the job, so I called the hiring manager (who was about 5 years my senior) and asked point blank why they hadn't wanted to hire me. Turns out I wasn't a "good personality fit." Really? We didn't go out for beers. How could he even know that? He had spent the interview practically insulting my mother and my side of the state (Southeast Michigan). It really seemed like this guy would only hire relatively young, white men who shared a quite narrow worldview. West Michigan is an odd place: so beautiful, yet so populated with crazy people.

      From just that one paragraph I can tell you're not the sort of person I would want to work with regardless of technical skill in whatever field. To be honest, probably the better you are at it, the more of an insufferable twat you become.

      Ahh yes. The thrill of power. I see it in a good many job interviews. That all corrupting juice given to he or she who has very little in his or her day to day job function. When administered, it blinds the interviewer to anything of substance that might help in hiring the best candidate possible. Rather, when on this juice of power, the inept and unskilled leader seeks that which all inept leaders have ever sought: praise and grovelling. It should come as no surprise that the companies whose interviewers fish for the most grovelling are the very same companies whose interviewers and hiring managers have "had trouble finding good people." It should, however, come as an apparently big surprise to you that I have turned down as many jobs as have turned me down, and most have found me pleasant and good natured.

      You, however, have the mindset of a follower. That mindset that followers have always had. Status of the speaker dictates correctness of his or her point, rather than any merit of said point. Because I am the job seeker, my opinions, nay my very essence, MUST be inferior to that of the talent seeker. Have fun on the other side of that table when the rare chance finds you. But, I wouldn't put my faith in your abilities to find a good candidate, and even less so to charm one.

    58. Re:Tame and lame by lgw · · Score: 1

      Because he was telling a joke. I expect poking fun at obsessively literal geeks.

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    59. Re:Tame and lame by bzipitidoo · · Score: 1

      That's not culture, that's slavery and jungle law! Don't buy into that culture B.S. when they're telling you right out that they will force you to work long hours, adopt their positions on politics, and look after your health their way. As to the competitive environment, you are interviewing for a job, not a chance to compete in a dog fight. The key distinction is do the managers live the way the workers live? If no, then the peons aren't a part of their culture.

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    60. Re:Tame and lame by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      I'd agree that his answer was humorous; the question was still bullshit to begin with.

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    61. Re:Tame and lame by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Corporate culture is often a lie. I see some HR people try to claim that they have one at a company, even though the various groups within are all completely unlike each other. I've also seen places where the actual culture does not match the culture they claim to have. HR very often has little clue about what the company is really like on other floors.

      Almost everywhere I've worked the people remain individuals with widely varied work ethics, personalities, and motivations.

    62. Re:Tame and lame by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Technically it would be illegal in the US as well in many states.

    63. Re:Tame and lame by lgw · · Score: 1

      Oh? I can believe it was BS by the standards of your culture, but other cultures have different values and norms of behavior. Isn't that neat? And what a boring world it would be if we were all exactly the same.

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    64. Re:Tame and lame by trdrstv · · Score: 1

      then I was asked point-blank:

      "Is there intelligent life in Outer Space"?

      I answered yes, then asked to defend my position. I spent the next 45 minutes in back-and-forth debate involving my bringing out Drake's Equation, panspermia, extrapolation of odds, and many other related topics.

      Funny I just had this talk with my 6 year old this weekend. He asked if Aliens existed and I told him "yes." Mom said "Don't tell him that, they may not!" and "I said they do exist!" and was put on the spot to defend it, so I looked at him and said

      "Son ... let me introduce you to the concept of a statistical impossibility. Space is pretty damn big, so big infact that if our house was the universe our little planet would be too small to be seen; smaller than a spec of dust. Now think of all the types of life on this planet we have, animals, bugs, lizards, fish... all that. The odds that there is no other intelligent life out there anywhere is so small and so unlikely it might as well be zero."

      "Do they come to earth ?"

      "Maybe. We might have met some, and we may never meet any but somewhere out in the stars there has to some. "

    65. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So what you're saying is that you would not hire a racist homophobe because he doesn't fit in with your group. Hypocrite.

      That's because I just can't tolerate intolerance!

      or the dutch

    66. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or the Dutch!

    67. Re:Tame and lame by Cederic · · Score: 0

      How about a lack of rational thought, poor logic skills, aggression towards colleagues and rank stupidity?

    68. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Because your post was flamebait. The parent was talking about corporate culture as it pertains to a candidates DESIRE to work there. He didn't say a damn thing about legal implications. You randomly brought that into the discussion, in order to provoke argument about different countries' legal systems. Furthermore, you confounded what he said very clearly as:

      Corporate culture is an amorphous mixture of personality, motivation, lifestyle, methods, and work ethic.

      into an off-topic tirade about discriminatory behavior. As he defined it, no sane legal system regulates (or even, *could* regulate) corporate culture because what it is is amorphous and blurry.

    69. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      FWIW, the response you got from BVis was much worse flamebait, considering that:
      1.) the US was not even brought up in the conversation prior to that point.
      2.) the US DOES have extensive anti-discriminatory employment laws. There is possibly issue with enforcement of them and/or fear of employees to "whistle blow", but the laws do exist.

    70. Re:Tame and lame by pete6677 · · Score: 1

      Wow. Nothing I would hate more than to work in a place chock-full of supergeeks. The constant pedantry would get annoying, to say the least.

    71. Re:Tame and lame by dfsmith · · Score: 1

      I'd be scared if the delivery guy always arrived toting sharpened blades. He could trade them for a pizza cutter, or even better, gloves or a credit card reader.

    72. Re:Tame and lame by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      To be honest, probably the better you are at it, the more of an insufferable twat you become.

      So you only hire people not competent to do the job that's available? "I'm sorry, but you are competent, so you must be a twat."

    73. Re:Tame and lame by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      Nope, plenty of brilliant, competent people are not twats. It's like the good looking girls that know they're good looking and act like it makes them better than everyone.

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    74. Re:Tame and lame by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      The better you are, the more insufferable you are is how you worded it. So you can't stand competent people. As a manager, that'd leave you hiring only dumb people, as they are more sufferable, right?

    75. Re:Tame and lame by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      That's not what I said at all. That one guy, by the way he came across gave me the impression of being a twat. Being a twat and being good at what you do are not linked nor are they mutually exclusive. You're taking what I said about one guy and just assuming that I apply that rationale to everyone, which is wrong.

      That being said if I was in the position to hire someone and I had a guru that no one could get on with and a guy who knew nothing, obviously I'd go for the guru, but if I had another guy who could do the job, but not as well or as quickly but would get on and work well with others, he would most likely get it. There's so much more to work than technical ability and it's often when some people get such a high technical knowledge that they feel they know the best way to do everything, refuse to cooperate unless other people do it 'properly' i.e. the way they think it should be done that they become the most twatish of all and regardless of how much they actually know they just hold everything back and sap morale. *

      *Disclaimer. Only applies to certain individuals, not everyone who accrues a set amount of knowledge in a particular subject.

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    76. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Better answer:

      If you're a pizza delivery man and you BENEFIT from scissors, in your work as a pizza delivery man, then you are doing your job very, VERY, VEERRYY wrong!

    77. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      3) "If you were a pizza delivery man, how would you benefit from scissors?" -- Apple, Specialist interview.

      It was a trick question to determine how much shame you have. The answer would be to jam them in your throat and hope you are reincarnated into a better life.

      The trick being that by giving them that answer, you inform them that you are from India, and so they will hire you immediately.

    78. Re:Tame and lame by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Language sucks. "you" is not a synonym for "you", as one can be plural, and the other singular. One means "people" and the other "stealth_finger". Generally when you use you, one assumes a more plural reading. This is why "you people" and "y'all" are common, to have two words for the two separate and incompatible meanings.

    79. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The fact that you're dumb enough to think that you've caught them in a clever trap with that idiotic response is an excellent reason.

    80. Re:Tame and lame by TranquilVoid · · Score: 1

      The culture of any group is the combined 'agreement' of behaviour of the individuals. Place a random group of people together and they will develop a culture. Add one more person to the mix and they will both influence, and have to incorporate, the existing culture. You can't legislate this away.

      This is the paradox of professionalism, which is supposed to be about focusing purely on work and, if you will, maintaining a culture of ignoring cultural differences. However, groups that share a similar culture (especially if it is natural and less forced) are far more cohesive and productive, so management holds team-building events. People also naturally want to form groups, so they go out for drinks and talk about their lives. All technically unprofessional.

    81. Re:Tame and lame by JamieIanMacgregor · · Score: 1

      probably the same reason I get modded to oblivion for mentioning any negative experience with micro$oft, one man's 'interesting' is another shills 'flamebait' not surprised if I get modded flamebait for this. truth hurts.

    82. Re:Tame and lame by JamieIanMacgregor · · Score: 1

      they're actually quite hard to puncture, did you do high school biology? even in a socket they just smoosh to one side most of the time.

    83. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hah, that's fun. I would have hired you if I was in charge.

    84. Re:Tame and lame by steve42lawson · · Score: 1
      3) "If you were a pizza delivery man, how would you benefit from scissors?" -- Apple, Specialist interview.

      .

      I would run with them, thus freeing myself from parental tyranny so I can access my innate talents and land a better job.

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    85. Re:Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ignore the above. I am from the UK as well, and whilst it is much more implied than outright stated, corporate culture very much exists here, especially in London. The major difference here is that there are also a large population of terrible managers who's only culture is "Take whatever punishment I send your way. If you smile whilst doing it and buy me a drink when you see me at the bar you may get promoted."

      In a culture like you described at Nike, one can take that as it is all bound to an ideology, so any critique you are given can be worded into very specific generic constructive language that motivates you based on the personality traits all employees have in common (as a result of the work culture naturally weeding out those that don't fit).

      It's the same social weeding out that is the major reason for so much police brutality. If you don't like the ethics of a bully in a precinct full of bullies, you self select out.

    86. Re:Tame and lame by cbiltcliffe · · Score: 1

      To be honest, probably the better you are at it, the more of an insufferable twat you become.

      So you only hire people not competent to do the job that's available? "I'm sorry, but you are competent, so you must be a twat."

      Straw man much?

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    87. Re:Tame and lame by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      That's because I just can't tolerate intolerance!

      my lactose admires you.

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    88. Re:Tame and lame by AK+Marc · · Score: 1

      Nope.

    89. Re: Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It is a matter of perspective. We ARE in outerspace from the perspective of Andromeda.

    90. Re: Tame and lame by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You is plural or singular these days, hence lacks definition. I use thee, thy, thou, ye as singular and you as always plural.

  3. Obligatory Trainspotting by Albanach · · Score: 4, Insightful

    How to successfully end an interview.

    Spud's interview [NSFW]

    None of the ones in the article even come close.

    1. Re:Obligatory Trainspotting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > They are so stupid they actually think that people don't want jobs and blow job interviews on purpose

      I have tanked interviews in the first 5 min, telling them they failed the interview. If the "they" in "They are so stupid" can afford to pick and choose positions, why wouldn't "they" (e.g. me)? Why waste 45 minutes interviewing for a developer position at a place that doesn't use version control? I don't want some jobs. It's not "they" that are stupid, it's you. You've constructed an elaborate fantasy world to support your weaknesses, I see.

    2. Re:Obligatory Trainspotting by lgw · · Score: 1

      Why waste 45 minutes interviewing for a developer position at a place that doesn't use version control?

      Well, I would follow up by asking whether I'm being hired to fix that - senior dev jobs often include that sort of thing. That being said, I once left a job after two weeks (well, two weeks after an internal transfer) because the group insisted on using Rational Rose. I've since asked about that on every phone interview, so as not to waste my time in person if they're that silly.

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    3. Re:Obligatory Trainspotting by inode_buddha · · Score: 1

      Sometimes, whether you want the job actually has zero to do with anything. Sometimes you actually *need* it and you'll take it anyway or else you'll be out on the street in about 30 days. Guess what, I've spent most of my life in that position and not necessarily through any fault of my own.

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    4. Re: Obligatory Trainspotting by Mabhatter · · Score: 1

      I do agree on the point that blowing interviews is a bit pretentious. But there are a lot of times an interviewer has clearly asked questions "over the line" or that identify this company as a terrible fit. At that point it TRUELY is better to have a plan to "now out gracefully" rehearsed so you don't continue the interview and throw your coffee at them!

      I've had one where it was a group interview and felt like an ambush. It ws clear after 5 minutes I didn't want to be working there. It's like planing an "escape call" on a first date.

    5. Re:Obligatory Trainspotting by nwf · · Score: 3, Informative

      Why waste 45 minutes interviewing for a developer position at a place that doesn't use version control?

      Well, I would follow up by asking whether I'm being hired to fix that - senior dev jobs often include that sort of thing. That being said, I once left a job after two weeks (well, two weeks after an internal transfer) because the group insisted on using Rational Rose. I've since asked about that on every phone interview, so as not to waste my time in person if they're that silly.

      Indeed, and one of my first tasks at one job was to implement version control. They just never got around to it. That's presumably why they are hiring: they need help, otherwise, no opening.

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    6. Re:Obligatory Trainspotting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > Sometimes you actually *need* it and you'll take it anyway or else you'll be out on the street in about 30 days

      Then you probably won't tank it, intentionally.

      A desperate situation is not what we're discussing. Someone responded that it's a Conservative dream for an intentional sabotage. It's not altogether uncommon.

    7. Re:Obligatory Trainspotting by lgw · · Score: 1

      I've also been in that position, but to remain so past your mid 20s starts seeming like your fault. The less stable your income, the more important your savings. Of course, sometimes life just blows up, but that's much rarer than people living paycheck-to-paycheck

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    8. Re:Obligatory Trainspotting by inode_buddha · · Score: 2

      Living paycheck to paycheck is *very* common in the Rust Belt when your background is in Manufacturing. And then your life blows up. Yep, guess what happened to me....

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    9. Re:Obligatory Trainspotting by RightSaidFred99 · · Score: 1

      With your go-getter attitude and winning personality I'm _amazed_ you can't find work!

    10. Re:Obligatory Trainspotting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      shouldn't that video be labeled NSFPW? p for prospective/potential

    11. Re: Obligatory Trainspotting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I do agree on the point that blowing interviews is a bit pretentious. But there are a lot of times an interviewer has clearly asked questions "over the line" or that identify this company as a terrible fit

      The only questions which are "over the line" are questions which are illegal to ask to start with, and even some of those aren't over the line. It's not at all uncommon to ask people strange or seemingly retarded questions which don't really HAVE a right answer, or a wrong one either. The point is to see how the person reacts and thinks, it's not a test of knowledge. Those are actually in many cases the better employers, because they are actually thinking about you instead of just running down a checklist to see how well you can bullshit them.

      About the only real exceptions are things related to ethics. A big one these days is asking for passwords to things like Facebook or your email. I always refuse, politely, and if they start to seem miffed or claim it really is required I laugh out loud and say "Heh, that's a good one, you almost had me. Wait, you're seriously telling me you'd hire someone who is both dumb enough to give out their password to a complete stranger, and unethical enough to violate the agreement they had with that service? What kind of company IS this?"

    12. Re: Obligatory Trainspotting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, one thing is for sure - you are sad. Stop blaming your 100+ weeks of unemployment on other people and political parties and shut up.
      Go get a job - any job - while you spend TWO YEARS finding the right job.

    13. Re: Obligatory Trainspotting by Redmancometh · · Score: 1

      I sincerely find this amazing.

    14. Re:Obligatory Trainspotting by ub3r+n3u7r4l1st · · Score: 1

      This is why we need a stronger social welfare system to prevent your life getting "blow up" because of a single event.

    15. Re: Obligatory Trainspotting by ub3r+n3u7r4l1st · · Score: 1

      Please define "any job" when there are none. "Employer of last resort" does not exist in the U.S.

    16. Re: Obligatory Trainspotting by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      HR thought run amok. No, there are things that no one may expect to get an answer from me on. It's not their business and, in other words, over the line. If they think it isn't, their business won't be my business.

    17. Re: Obligatory Trainspotting by Oligonicella · · Score: 2

      There are jobs, false statements that sweeping are pathetic. Lower your expectations, get the "demeaning" job, work it until you find a better one.

    18. Re: Obligatory Trainspotting by q.kontinuum · · Score: 2

      I do agree on the point that blowing interviews is a bit pretentious. But there are a lot of times an interviewer has clearly asked questions "over the line" or that identify this company as a terrible fit.

      Maybe, but I wouldn't judge by any of those low standard questions. Either the interviewer is from HR, then his competence does not necessarily say anything about the engineers technical competences and team atmosphere. Or the guy might still be a quite good engineer and just sucks at interview planning, or was scheduled on short notice to do the interview for another team. I'd probably tell the interviewer that I consider the questions a bit generic, took the time to learn the usually expected answers, but would prefer to go into more job-specific topics. Depending on the reaction, I can still blow the interview, or if they consider the interview blown because of this, I could probably live with it.

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    19. Re:Obligatory Trainspotting by drkim · · Score: 1

      ...so stupid they actually think that people don't want jobs and blow job interviews on purpose.

      I never blow off an interview intentionally. After all - it's just business.

      Once you get the feeling that you:
      1. Are not getting the job, or
      2. Aren't interested in working for that company.

      ...wait 'til the "Q & A" portion is over, and just quote them a really high rate. (Don't make it too crazy!)

      Only one of two things happen:

      1. You get the gig at the crazy high rate.
      2. They still don't give you the gig, but are left with impression that you can command a really high rate; that maybe you're a little too good for them.

    20. Re:Obligatory Trainspotting by necro81 · · Score: 1

      Well, of course he bollocksed the interview - he wasn't speaking English!

    21. Re: Obligatory Trainspotting by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      More specifically, there are currently about 2 jobs per 5 job seekers. This is a big improvement over 1 job per 5 seekers that we had about 4 years ago, but it still means that 60% of people actively looking for work cannot find a job.

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    22. Re:Obligatory Trainspotting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "took our unemployment"

      Careful, your sense of entitlement is showing!

      "house and senate that is 100% rules by GOP"

      Current split of the 113th Congress:
      House: R-234 D-201
      Senate: D-53 R-45 I-2

      Looks like the GOP has 100% of nothing, and isn't even above 50% in the Senate.

      Please spend some of your unemployed time reading FACTUAL information, and taking a bit of responsibility for yourself, and you might have an easier go of it.

    23. Re:Obligatory Trainspotting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Even if you *are* being hired to implement Version Control, what would your opinion be of a company who, in 2014, doesn't yet use version control?

      Top quality, inexpensive version control tools have been available for literally decades. Any company that didn't have this kind of fundamental element of software development already firmly implemented within it's software development processes many years ago is a company that I'd be very dubious of working for.

    24. Re:Obligatory Trainspotting by lgw · · Score: 1

      Never worked for a start-up?. Programming shops aren't hatched fully formed, you have to hire engineers in the order that you can find them, and sometimes that means the senior guys don't start first.

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    25. Re:Obligatory Trainspotting by lgw · · Score: 1

      No social welfare system will stop you from getting leukemia in your 20s. Sometimes life just blows up - what happens afterwards is where a social welfare system comes into play. And a responsible adult should be able to handle any one thing going wrong on his own, because almost everyone's life blows up eventually form illness, divorce, or layoff with extended job hunt. We shouldn't need the assistance of others unless we get hit from two directions at once (though in one's early 20s it's a bit different, as it does take time to save).

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    26. Re: Obligatory Trainspotting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I don't see why you need to plan your "now [sic] out gracefully"...just be honest. I've had a number of job interviews where it became clear to me very early on that it wasn't a fit. As soon as I'm sure, I'll interrupt them and say, "I'm sorry to interrupt you, but I don't think this job is a good fit for me. I don't want to waste any more of your or my time when there's no chance that I'll end up working here. Thank you for your time and please show me to the nearest exit." It may be blunt, but it's honest and respectful.

      The only time I'll stick out an interview until the end is when I'm being flown in from out of town. If a company is paying for my airfare and hotel, I feel like I owe it to them to give them the full time to convince me. Plus, the flight home is usually scheduled with the assumption of how long the interview will take, so there's not that much difference between sitting through a bad interview and waiting at the airport.

    27. Re: Obligatory Trainspotting by shess · · Score: 1

      I do agree on the point that blowing interviews is a bit pretentious. But there are a lot of times an interviewer has clearly asked questions "over the line" or that identify this company as a terrible fit.

      Maybe, but I wouldn't judge by any of those low standard questions. Either the interviewer is from HR, then his competence does not necessarily say anything about the engineers technical competences and team atmosphere. Or the guy might still be a quite good engineer and just sucks at interview planning, or was scheduled on short notice to do the interview for another team. I'd probably tell the interviewer that I consider the questions a bit generic, took the time to learn the usually expected answers, but would prefer to go into more job-specific topics. Depending on the reaction, I can still blow the interview, or if they consider the interview blown because of this, I could probably live with it.

      My experience from the other side of the table is that candidates who express attitude about the kinds of questions you're asking also tend to be candidates who don't really answer any of the questions very well. In fact, IMHO interviewing candidates helps when you're interviewing for a position. You want to waste our time discussing what order a bunch of C++ constructor anti-patterns execute in? Bully, lets get this done and move on to something more interesting. Even if you just failed part of _my_ interview of _you_, I'm here already and it's free practice.

      Also: If you think these are stupid questions, then obviously you've never had to meet with customers to analyze their needs.

    28. Re:Obligatory Trainspotting by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Of those hateful xtians don't control then entire government then why does the government keep implementing 100% of their racist and classist policies? That's like saying Obama has any control over whatsoever over the government when he is forced to sign RomneyCare into law. It is the fault of the xtians.

    29. Re: Obligatory Trainspotting by rmdingler · · Score: 1
      Yep. Even a little money coming in during your search won't hurt you, and once you've conquered your pride, a temporary vocation beneath your education and training will likely motivate your efforts.

      Probably build a bit of character, too.

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      Ernest Hemingway

    30. Re:Obligatory Trainspotting by ulatekh · · Score: 1

      Even if you *are* being hired to implement Version Control, what would your opinion be of a company who, in 2014, doesn't yet use version control?

      I recently had a job where I had to institute version control, and even encountered a lot of resistance to the idea initially.

      Unfortunately, it was a department of the U.S. Army.

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      "Once we've identified and embraced our sickness, we'll have strength...and that's when we get dangerous." - John Waters
    31. Re:Obligatory Trainspotting by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      version control? I thought you wanted me to implement virgin control.

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  4. Are you SURE this is a company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny
    1. Re:Are you SURE this is a company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      quickly! must google: job interview site:xkcd.com and post whatever is returned. Seriously what relevance does that have? He doesnt even ask an interview question.

    2. Re:Are you SURE this is a company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your inability to understand the reference does not invalidate the reference. Imagine the following exchange, if you can:

      Interviewer asks an abysmally stupid question.
      Interviewee replies, "... are you SURE this is a company?! Are you properly sure??"

    3. Re:Are you SURE this is a company? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Interviewer asks an abysmally stupid question.

      Except there is no interviewer. Nor does the guy who makes stuff for phones --who is not an interviewer --ask a question. Not a single question.

      The fact that one might conceivably answer a job interview question with a line from some random cartoon does not infuse said cartoon with relevance.

    4. Re:Are you SURE this is a company? by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      quickly! must google: job interview site:xkcd.com and post whatever is returned. Seriously what relevance does that have? He doesnt even ask an interview question.

      The relevence it's about job interviews and this thread is about job intereviews and this is slashdot so you get an oblig xkcd in literally every different thread. just because you don't like it or whatever doesn't change the fact job interviews are relevent to job interviews.

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  5. wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "I would be equipped to become a pizza delivery woman."
    ahahahaha blatant transphobia on a tech blog what a surprise
    wait it's not a surprise at all

    1. Re:wow by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is that transphobia?

    2. Re:wow by colinrichardday · · Score: 1

      Strictly speaking, you would be equipped to be a pizza-delivery eunuch.

    3. Re:wow by firex726 · · Score: 1

      And someone being overly serious about a joke.

      The joke is not meant to be disparaging to delivery people or trans people, but rather to highlight the absurdity if the question by way of the obviously extreme answer. It makes no sense that the person would change genders for a delivery job, which further highlights how dumb it is for them to ask what they would do with scissors as a delivery person.

  6. The ones I hate by dbIII · · Score: 4, Interesting

    The ones I hate are the ones designed to make people angry for "psychological" reasons (they really just want to bait people), although nobody who has even read a book on the topic is involved. If it's not NASA, and even if it is and you haven't been warned that they would be such stuff, then it's not on. When the military do that sort of stuff it's not completely out of the blue.

    1. Re:The ones I hate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You don't want your career fate based on some armchair psychology questions?

    2. Re:The ones I hate by iggymanz · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I think Leon in "Blade Runner" nailed the proper response to those

    3. Re:The ones I hate by lgw · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, I don't know - I like to respond to blatant psychological probing with "are you testing to see whether I'm an $X or a lesbian". Either they get the joke or not, either way I find it funny.

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      Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
    4. Re:The ones I hate by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      and for any questions of self analysis or self criticism: "can the Maker repair what He has made?"

    5. Re:The ones I hate by Guy+From+V · · Score: 1

      Let me tell you about my mother...

    6. Re:The ones I hate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Explain please.

    7. Re:The ones I hate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well to be fair, Leon was a professional, there's no way to know wheter he was lying...

    8. Re:The ones I hate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "don't make me angry. You wouldn't like me when I'm angry".

    9. Re:The ones I hate by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      If someone interviewing you for a typical tech job (who you are likely to eventually work with at the company) intentionally tries to make you angry in an interview, that seems to be a pretty big red flag right there.

      I remember an interview at eBay once where the "lead architect" of the group was a total dick (the other 3-4 people I talked with were fine). When the HR guy asked me at the end of the interviews how it went, I just told him "it doesn't really matter, because I'm pretty sure I could never work with X, so this is pretty much as far as we need to go." Didn't hurt that the work sounded horribly boring...

    10. Re:The ones I hate by dbIII · · Score: 1

      that seems to be a pretty big red flag right there

      It certainly was (for other reasons). They told me at the time that they were not really employing, just "testing the market", maybe looking to see what sort of money people would accept to use as ammo against people asking for pay rises, who knows why, but they certainly didn't employ anyone new for that type of job that year. Why have a confrontational job interview when you are not employing anyone?
      Later I ended up sending contract work their way but they were very sloppy. It probably was for the best that I had a reason not to trust them. Most of the stuff that wasn't done by their senior people had to be sent back and redone. They'd send insane reports such as a chemical analysis of a cheap cast iron coming back as 75% Tungsten, because they were too sloppy about contamination. Other options were interstate.

    11. Re:The ones I hate by Dahamma · · Score: 1

      They told me at the time that they were not really employing, just "testing the market"

      Heh, I would have said "hey, that's a coincidence, I'm using you as a practice interview before I apply to the companies I actually want to work for" ;)

    12. Re:The ones I hate by dbIII · · Score: 1

      Not a bad move :)
      I probably remember them deliberately getting me angry more than I normally would because I ended up working with some of them later and was in the same professional association as one of them. That was a bit of a reminder and a good example to me to not treat applicants like crap.
      It did feel good to rub in the incompetence, a year later, of the guy who baited me in the job interview though.

  7. Tempted? Yes. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Crazy enough to do so? Hell. No. The vast majority of tech positions in my area are contract-to-hire. If I blew up every interview that involved stupid questions, I'd be blacklisted from every staffing agency in the state.

  8. Here's the sad part by bigsexyjoe · · Score: 5, Insightful

    When you are young, desperate, and eager to please, they ask you all the stupid questions. Their apparent motive is just to fuck with you and assert dominance.

    When you are older and have a resume, they don't bother with the stupid questions. They just ask you about code and projects.

    1. Re:Here's the sad part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Indeed.

      Recently went through the eye-opening experience of going to a job interview with 7 years experience under my belt, a job for which they contacted me. It's a totally different experience from the just outa university and they are the only company you've heard back from in 2 months thing.

    2. Re:Here's the sad part by tftp · · Score: 5, Insightful

      In other words, the number of stupid questions is inversely proportional to your perceived value to the company. An experienced employee can easily walk away if he does not like your questions - and what then will you tell your boss who is desperate to fill that Project Lead position? Especially if the boss was also present at the interview? Good Project Leads are hard to find. You won't even talk to a good Code Monkey every day.

    3. Re:Here's the sad part by jrumney · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Not true. It was not until later in my career that I started being asked stupid questions that had nothing to do with my expertise in interviews. Apparently, I learned later, the interviewer expected me to pull an answer out of my arse, then defend it to the death. This was for an engineering position, but his expectation was apparently that everyone who is any good's career should gravitate towards sales.

    4. Re:Here's the sad part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

      Just remember, too much experience is bad. After you have 10 years experience you'll be too old to be employable. Anywhere. Ever.

    5. Re:Here's the sad part by Loconut1389 · · Score: 2

      dont tell that to my new employer. I was asked to join after working as a contractor from my old employer. I've been working since 1994.

    6. Re:Here's the sad part by houstonbofh · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Just remember, too much experience is bad. After you have 10 years experience you'll be too old to be employable. Anywhere. Ever.

      I keep hearing that, and yet I keep working... Hmmm... And not only do I have 10 years experience, I have it three times!

    7. Re:Here's the sad part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I haven't talked to a good monkey in years, it's like I'm surrounded by evil monkeys.

    8. Re:Here's the sad part by lgw · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Just remember, too much experience is bad. After you have 10 years experience you'll be too old to be employable. Anywhere. Ever.

      Only if you've been deeply irresponsible in your own job skills. One thing I learned early that that expertise in any technology stack will only last 5 years or so before it's worthless. Sometimes you have to move on, even to a lower-paying job, just to freshen your skills (as I recently did). Sometimes you have to directly focus on improving your non-technical skills in a real way. But you only become unemployable when you stop learning new professional skills.

      20-mumble years of experience and still going here. Going back through my email, I was contacted 12 times last quarter by recruiters who seemed credible in having senior positions to fill, and a couple who didn't. I've certainly met and interviewed people who have made themselves unhirable by focusing too narrowly for too long, but as long as you remember that each specific technology that you're expert in will be meaningless in 5 years (and that salary doesn't go up when you're older like it does when you're younger), you won't have this problem.

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    9. Re:Here's the sad part by lgw · · Score: 1

      Engineer not managing or working strictly as an architect later in your career means you failed somewhere.

      Bullshit. Plenty of larger companies have a real technical career track these days. Of course, I recommend that veteran engineers try their hand at both management and pure "architecture" along the way, both for breadth and incase that's been your true path all along. However, a senior engineering position beats a mid-level manager position IMO, both for job stability and for stress (plus it totally sucks having to be the guy doing layoffs when things go bad).

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    10. Re:Here's the sad part by funwithBSD · · Score: 4, Informative

      IBM it is (inside T&T anyway):

      Specialist - highest level "individual contributor"
      Architect - I started managing matrix-ed teams
      Senior Technical Staff Member - I have a staff budget, it is like a technical Director, has same authority as Director, but less signing authority.
      Distinguished Engineer - Usually have a portfolio of products, services, or business lines
      Sr. Distinguished Engineer - More of the above
      IBM Fellow
      and I forget the title of the IBM Fellow that sits on the board. Sr IBM Fellow?

      Never do you "have" to cut over to line management to advance, unless you really want to be CEO, like Ginni Rometti.
      I manage teams for short time periods for specific goals, who in turn have "line managers" that are usually more like HR managers: vacation, advancement, timecards, reviews, etc, are done by line management.
      I can focus on getting problems solved and more strategic planning without worrying about timecards, budget or that kind of nonsense. The business orientated line manager does that.

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    11. Re:Here's the sad part by cusco · · Score: 2

      Engineer not managing or working strictly as an architect later in your career means you failed somewhere.

      What a steaming pile of horseshit. I have absolutely no intention to ever move into management, I hate it and would absolutely suck at it. Why would I want to do something that I hate? And I really don't care if there's a pile of money at the other end of that "advancement", I'm not so desperate that I would be willing to spend the next x-many years miserable every day.

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    12. Re:Here's the sad part by ub3r+n3u7r4l1st · · Score: 1

      Or better yet, get a MBA and move into management which you will be hard to get rid of, or move into public-sector IT where you don't have to get burned out to learn everything new and stick with the same technology stack until your body expires.

    13. Re:Here's the sad part by lgw · · Score: 1

      Wow, those sound like amazingly boring ways to live one's life. Why keep living if you're going to stop learning?

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    14. Re:Here's the sad part by Sique · · Score: 1

      I actually doubt the 5 year rule. I am working on technology right now that was deployed 20 years ago (and is still running). I've colleagues who are in the field since 40 years (and about retire very soon). There are fields where 5 years is a really long time, but well honed UNIX skills build on 40 year old technology.

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    15. Re:Here's the sad part by lgw · · Score: 1

      What did you understand by "specific technology"? (I'm trying to guess what "UNIX skills" you'd actually be paid for today.) Are there really still jobs where you bang together shell scripts for a handful of servers? Are there really still servers around running those crufty old proprietary Unices from 20 years ago, each different in it's own special way?

      Or are you talking about general maturity and lessons learned as an admin, and not specific tech stacks?

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    16. Re:Here's the sad part by Oligonicella · · Score: 2

      I'm pretty sure the senior engineers at NASA won't be waking up screaming with angst at 2AM over your condemnation of their failed careers.

    17. Re:Here's the sad part by The+Cat · · Score: 1

      Their apparent motive is just to fuck with you and assert dominance.

      THIS

    18. Re:Here's the sad part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Bullshit. In the Bay Area, when interviewing for a technical position, you generally get 2 types of interviews:
      a) knowledge based (usually when you are being interviewed by just-out-of-school people)
      b) experience based (usually when dealing with people with actual real-life-applicable experience, who want to see how you solve problems)

      The a) I cut this interview type short and walk out (to their astonishment), because explaining how SSH or git/svn/whatever works on low level bores the shit out of me and tells me the interviewer is either incompetent and/or trying to validate him/her-self and using me to do that.
      The b) type I treat seriously, as it allows me to show the interviewer how I think, what kinds of problems I can solve and how I go about it. IT also allows me to test whether the guy sitting across the table really knows his shit or is faking it by asking if they follow me and by monitoring their reaction/behavior.

      I refuse to deal with incompetent fucks knowing they will eventually make my work life a living hell.

    19. Re:Here's the sad part by bluegutang · · Score: 2

      When you're young, they value your intellect and quick thinking, and try to ask you questions that test that.
      When you're old, they value the skills you've accumulated, and the questions reflect that too.

      If the interview is done correctly, even the "code" questions are less about finding the "right" answer and more about demonstrating how you arrived at whatever answer you reached. It should be obvious that the same is true for the so-called "stupid" questions.

    20. Re:Here's the sad part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I once had a couple of dipshits, from my Computer Science days, argue with me that Computer Science is a rational and logical part of the path to senior management. When I told them I wasn't interested in getting into management, they both cringed and looked at each other, as though I was wasting my time because of that.

      (I was, but not for that reason.)

    21. Re:Here's the sad part by Sez+Zero · · Score: 1

      When you are older and have a resume, they don't bother with the stupid questions. They just ask you about code and projects.

      I can't tell if it is true, or if I just don't tolerate stupid questions now that I'm older.

    22. Re:Here's the sad part by hunterkll · · Score: 1

      Crufty old proprietary, 20 years ago? I'll give you proprietary, but a lot of technological advancement goes on in the unix world. Unless Solaris, AIX, and HP-UX are non-existant. And let's not forget about the huge entrenched VMS userbase....

    23. Re:Here's the sad part by Sique · · Score: 1

      No. Just working. There is absolutely no reason to upgrade, because it does the job it was built for.

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    24. Re:Here's the sad part by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      Age *will* bite you at some point, as an employee. A lot of companies don't want to be the place where you wind down on your way to retirement.

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    25. Re:Here's the sad part by MobyDisk · · Score: 1

      Their apparent motive is just to fuck with you and assert dominance.

      It is because they can't ask you questions about your previous projects when you have none. So you try to ascertain the candidate's personality, interests, work ethic, etc.

      Also: Yeah, it is fun. :-)

    26. Re:Here's the sad part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Where are people applying for jobs that they get asked these stupid questions?
      When I applied I only got what I considered very reasonable questions.
      Why do you want to work here, what about your experience.
      And the main reason for the questions was to see if I could actually speak English.

    27. Re:Here's the sad part by Libertarian001 · · Score: 1

      The last position I interviewed for started with them headhunting me. The headhunter (who knew just enough of the tech to at least not sound like a rube) screened me over the phone. Then I had a phone interview with the manager. Then I had a phone interview with the lead tech (who told me he was going to recommend me). A week later they flew me out and I interviewed with another half a dozen people.

      During the on-site interviews I started getting some of these idiotic questions. I finally just stopped the guy and said "Let me stop you there. You just flew me across the country and this is what you're asking me. Is this really what you want to go with? You headhunted me, I didn't come to you. Your techs already cleared me. So, really, what is it that you want to know? What's your concern in hiring me?"

      He knocked off with the crap, we had a real conversation, and I left with a signed job offer.

    28. Re:Here's the sad part by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Everyone gets asked stupid questions. It happens everywhere and in every company. You can not reasonably filter out a job based on that. The person asking the stupid questions will not necessarily be your boss, and you may never even interact with that person again. Someone who freaks out at a stupid question from an HR rep or recruiter must not have very much experience interviewing. People who do the interviewing are sometimes picked randomly, or may not have experience interviewing people, or is just repeating questions that they've always been asked. If someone's job is as an engineer then they may be brilliant but know nothing at all about interviewing.

      And yet I see this sort of arrogance from some people that they must only work somewhere that is full of geniuses (even Google doesn't qualify). I don't think you can even get an entry level job without getting some of these generic questions.

      A job interview only becomes pointless if you learn that you're not a fit for the job, it was misrepresented in the job advertisement, the role you're being offered is not what you expected, etc. However there have been times as an interviewer that I've learned that the rest of the interview was pointless (though I tend to continue it anyway, some coworkers though have terminated interviews early).

    29. Re:Here's the sad part by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      I'm working in C right now, with about 30 years experience using it. It most certainly is not a worthless skill set. It is very useful in that I don't have to compete with a lot of twenty somethings for the new fad of the year. Now on the devices there may be newer technology but even then they tend to be around longer than expected (phone technology is not new, not even smart phone is new it's just an amalgam of older technologies).

      Now if someone is unlucky enough to have gone into IT and is reliant on Microsoft approval on all technologies, then this may be true.

    30. Re:Here's the sad part by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      Yes, I write some shell scripts. MacOS is unix. There are people programming today in Python and that's over 20 years old (I'm actually surprised that its popularity started surging again). SQL is over 30 years old. The Unix skills from 40 years ago are still relevant in many areas. Embedded systems use technologies that are tried and proven, they may have a POSIX style RTOS, they're probably written in C, C++, and assembler.

      There really are few new technologies out there that people don't have experience in already, they just seem like new technologies to people without experience.

    31. Re:Here's the sad part by Darinbob · · Score: 1

      But was that person asking the dumb question vital to the job you would have been doing? Could you have ignored that person if you took the job? I've never worked anywhere in which I had to please every single other employee who worked there.

    32. Re:Here's the sad part by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Experience only hurts if you've wasted it. If you've got 10 years experience and the knowledge and ability of someone with 2-3, employers will, probably correctly, assume that you're not very curious or interested in learning, advancement and otherwise growing as a person. We've said no to people for this very reason...they've got the right number of years of experience for a senior position, but they've got the aptitude of a junior. On the other hand, if you are curious and have spent 10-15 years improving yourself and making yourself that valuable, employers will be very glad to have you.

      People who bitch about experience being a toxic asset in a job interview are the ones who've wasted theirs. I'm guessing you're the sort that comes into an interview with 30 years of experience and is able to show them just how valuable that experience has been.

    33. Re:Here's the sad part by jrumney · · Score: 1

      He owned the company, I would have been answering to him directly had I been offered and taken the job. But given that I would have been successful only if I'd succeeded in making up bullshit stories to answer his questions with, probably the suitable candidate could get away with ignoring him and using their skills to cover their arse later.

    34. Re:Here's the sad part by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      Very insightful! The funny part is that I have not gone to a traditional interview in a long time, and I have not seen HR for recruitment since the last century! I have been recruited for may last 4 jobs by people that needed what I do.

    35. Re:Here's the sad part by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      Age *will* bite you at some point, as an employee. A lot of companies don't want to be the place where you wind down on your way to retirement.

      I keep hearing that, and yet...

    36. Re:Here's the sad part by ub3r+n3u7r4l1st · · Score: 1

      learning stuff that you love is one thing, learning stuff just because to put food on the table is another. That is why people in government jobs happily cruise to retirement. The bottom line is, nobody should ever die in their office.

    37. Re:Here's the sad part by gzuckier · · Score: 1

      probably less of these now that we're all broke, but back in the day i went to quite a few interviews where it was clear the main motivation was that the whole group got to take the candidate to lunch on the company dime.

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  9. Unprofessional all around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you're that certain you do not wish the job, don't make peoples day any more difficult by being a dickhat. Just politely end the interview saying you are no longer interested in the position.

    That kind of response sends the message loud and clear that it was their interview that drove you away and may push them to explain why they were asking such shitty questions. If nothing else it avoids creating an instant adversarial position where your indignation is written off as "you being a dickhat" not that there might be something wrong with their interview process.

    We're adults, grow the hell up and stop assuming anyone gives a crap if you act like a smartypants.

    1. Re:Unprofessional all around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Just politely end the interview saying you are no longer interested in the position.

      It's important to remember that a job interview should be a 2 way street. You need to be clear (and it may not hurt to make it clear) that you are assessing them as much as the other way round. Telling someone they failed should always be done politely and with tact.

    2. Re:Unprofessional all around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Sometimes it's better to just call an interviewer a dipshit and tell them their questions are stupid. After all. If nobody ever tells them... How will they know?

    3. Re:Unprofessional all around by CNTOAGN · · Score: 1

      I normally don't respond, but are you sure we are all adults? Far too often it seems decisions are driven by greed, selfishness, or a religious self-richest goal that they now longer seem to be "grown up", much less even humanistic I wish everyone would "grow up", but frankly I don't think grown ups know what the fuck they are doing.

    4. Re:Unprofessional all around by Penguinisto · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This, right here.

      In tech circles, your name gets passed around a lot farther than you think. Even if you turn down that job, the fact that you were a dickhat will pass around - eventually to the jobs you do want. IF you don't fit into the culture, you won't fit into the job.

      This is doubly true in medium and smaller tech markets (like here in PDX, for instance). We've been trying to hire sysadmins here with experience, and we've been able to weed out at least a couple of resumes so far based just on (bad) reputation.

      While I and my cohorts don't know everyone in the biz here, we do know who we really want, and who we don't want.

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      Quo usque tandem abutere, Nimbus, patientia nostra?
    5. Re:Unprofessional all around by Patent+Lover · · Score: 1

      We're not all adults you insesitive clod!

    6. Re:Unprofessional all around by lgw · · Score: 1

      Well, it depends on what kind of answer you give. No, a stupid interview question is not an excuse to be an asshat, but if you respond in a way that the interviewer laughs at, then I think it's OK.

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    7. Re:Unprofessional all around by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      I have actually done that before. I got a call back. :)

    8. Re:Unprofessional all around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Customers (and people in general) ask stupid questions all the time. If the employee will deal with customers or end users then them not handling stupid questions well is a minus.

      Of course it's a two way thing. People might not want to work for companies where the other employees ask too many stupid questions. ;)

    9. Re:Unprofessional all around by jsrjsr · · Score: 1

      I once went to an interview where the interviewer was on vacation. When she contacted me later, I told her that I was no longer interested in working for her company. That was a bit of an understatement, I would not have worked for them under any circumstances I could imagine.

    10. Re:Unprofessional all around by DerekLyons · · Score: 0

      In tech circles, your name gets passed around a lot farther than you think. Even if you turn down that job, the fact that you were a dickhat will pass around - eventually to the jobs you do want. IF you don't fit into the culture, you won't fit into the job.

      This is doubly true in medium and smaller tech markets (like here in PDX, for instance). We've been trying to hire sysadmins here with experience, and we've been able to weed out at least a couple of resumes so far based just on (bad) reputation.

      Sounds more like a high school clique than anything else - a couple of people don't like you, and bam you're isolated and shunned.

    11. Re:Unprofessional all around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You do realize that companies can be sued for that sort of behavior? Our HR departments repeatedly warn us that talking about former employees to employees of other companies can make the company liable if the former employee finds out that your gossiping interfered with that person's ability to land a job.

    12. Re:Unprofessional all around by dcollins · · Score: 1

      I must admit that one of my two greatest professional regrets was not ending an interview where the employer said something like, "All I'm hearing is bullshit" to my face. If I could go back in time I'd say, "I can see that you're not interested in being serious or professional, let's end this now, good day."

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    13. Re:Unprofessional all around by Penguinisto · · Score: 2

      It's on a way different level. You quickly find out from others whether someone is lazy, incompetent, conniving, or suchlike. You find out in short order if someone is a dick. On the other hand, you also find out if someone who was nervous at an interview is in fact highly competent but not much of a people-person. You discover that someone who seems 'green' in a given area has a knack for learning quickly, and otherwise has excellent work-habits.

      These are things you cannot know from asking the standard "STAR" interviewing techniques, because even the least bright among us is smart enough to know how to at least half-ass their way through such things.

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    14. Re:Unprofessional all around by hawkingradiation · · Score: 1

      Sounds like the ones defending a balanced response to a rather open ended and not specific question like are the ones who want respect and are doing the hiring and the ones who would like to start a new career, maybe for the first time, are the ones who want to be given a chance to answer a question that can show their skills, not just pull something out of a hat. Both want respect. You are hiring them to work in supposedly a new role. How do you know that their "reputation" actually puts them in a position of "not being able to do the job"? Why do HR managers (not saying that you are one) always trying to run ends-around trying to find ways in which a candidate can not be good for a job by not being direct and pretending there are x amount of ways one can find out whether a person can do the job rather than by doing it? To me it seems normal that a person's job skills can be tested best by, well, testing them at their job. If I were a younger employee, that's what I would ask for, and be more genuinely motivated to do if the job starts right here, right now, instead of having to go through all that rigamarole.
      In general, in WWII there was a shortage of men, people kept on dying, and choices and trust had to be made in the men doing their jobs, because there was no one else to fill them. Now, managers have enough time, money and leisure on their hands, that they can afford to "pretend" that all this extra bs hiring stuff makes a difference. Perhaps everybody needs to step back and figure out a way where most everybody can contribute. It would be good for everybody. [/rant]

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    15. Re:Unprofessional all around by YukariHirai · · Score: 4, Insightful

      To actually get the point across to them so they correct their behavior though, you need to do it politely. No-one likes being told "that was a fucking stupid question", and more often than not they'll think to themselves "well, that guy was an arsehole" and disregard what you said. "Thank you for your time, but the questions are straying a bit from what I thought would be relevant to the job, so I don't think this position is for me" has a better chance to get them thinking.

    16. Re:Unprofessional all around by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      It's on a way different level. You quickly find out from others

      Emphasis added... and just further reinforces the notion that it's not on a 'way different level' from a high school clique.

    17. Re:Unprofessional all around by mvdwege · · Score: 3, Informative

      And yet, even when faced with such obvious collusion by employers, and the power difference this creates, most techies are still violently anti-union.

      Dunning-Kruger is alive and well, it seems.

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    18. Re:Unprofessional all around by Penguinisto · · Score: 2

      The difference is that in the adult world, the basis is on work performance, competence, and factors that directly affect how a given candidate will (or won't) contribute to the team.

      In a "high school clique", the criteria is based on crap like fashion choices, who you slept with (or didn't), and other superfluous garbage.

      That's what I meant by a way different level.

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    19. Re:Unprofessional all around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My aren't you all Mr. Serious buns? You are aren't you, yes you are. So grumpy. Does Mr. Serious Buns need a nappy wappy? Is he all tuckered out? Yes he is, yes he is.

    20. Re:Unprofessional all around by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      To actually get the point across to them so they correct their behavior though

      I see your mistake. They will never assume fault. This was only a marginally humorous response.

    21. Re:Unprofessional all around by Oligonicella · · Score: 2

      crap like fashion choices, who you slept with (or didn't), and other superfluous garbage.

      As opposed to whether you like Ruby on Rails, believe all source should be free, or don't hate object oriented programming?

    22. Re:Unprofessional all around by Oligonicella · · Score: 1

      Hose one interview, the interviewer will flag your resume, and you are guaranteed to not be hired by anyone in the banking business.

      Bullshit. My entire career was in banking. No such thing.

    23. Re:Unprofessional all around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      No. Don't reward arrogance with kindness. The interviewer has much more of a duty to not be a dick than you, as they are in a position of power. Have some self-respect. You are the intelligent, educated and motivated person they are looking for. Or are you begging for a job, willing to jump through all the hoops they hold in front of you and to bend over as far as they ask you to? If that's the case, expect more of the same when you get the job.

    24. Re:Unprofessional all around by ruir · · Score: 2

      This such important reply should not be an AC. Those HR drones have to understand they have to respect the people across the table and a job interview is essentially the negotiation to a transaction where the other side is evaluating them too. Sadly, many seem to forget this.

    25. Re:Unprofessional all around by cascadingstylesheet · · Score: 1

      If you're that certain you do not wish the job, don't make peoples day any more difficult by being a dickhat. Just politely end the interview saying you are no longer interested in the position.

      That kind of response sends the message loud and clear that it was their interview that drove you away and may push them to explain why they were asking such shitty questions. If nothing else it avoids creating an instant adversarial position where your indignation is written off as "you being a dickhat" not that there might be something wrong with their interview process.

      We're adults, grow the hell up and stop assuming anyone gives a crap if you act like a smartypants.

      Thank you! Finally an adult.

      I've had a few questions like that. I try to handle them like an adult. "Probably the same weaknesses as any human. By the way, can you expand a bit on what you mean by "agile development"? It sometimes seems to mean different things in different places."

      If the interviewer actually is someone you will be working for or with, it's usually not that hard to get them on track. They don't usually want to ask this stupid stuff either ...

    26. Re:Unprofessional all around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As opposed to whether you like Ruby on Rails, believe all source should be free, or don't hate object oriented programming?

      Similar to having a fetish for Philips head screws, think all blueprints should be online no matter what the building is, and are okay with homeowners that use wallpaper? Only in programming do people get away with being so nutty....

    27. Re:Unprofessional all around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Maybe you do know who you really don't want, but it like a conspiracy of the incompetent not wanting to hire anyone who rocks the boat.

    28. Re:Unprofessional all around by YumoolaJohn · · Score: 1

      We're adults, grow the hell up and stop assuming anyone gives a crap if you act like a smartypants.

      Right. True Adults wouldn't say something I don't like to an interviewer. Such a thing is "unprofessional," which isn't 100% subjective at all.

      We're adults, grow the hell up and stop assuming anyone cares about your precious feelings.

    29. Re:Unprofessional all around by YumoolaJohn · · Score: 1

      The difference is that in the adult world, the basis is on work performance, competence, and factors that directly affect how a given candidate will (or won't) contribute to the team.

      Given the context of this thread, the basis here is obviously on whether or not people are stupid enough to put up with shitty interview questions. It seems you've deluded yourself into believing that people in the "adult world" aren't just as shallow, but that is wrong.

      In a "high school clique", the criteria is based on crap like fashion choices, who you slept with (or didn't), and other superfluous garbage.

      Which doesn't sound different from many employers.

    30. Re:Unprofessional all around by orasio · · Score: 1

      I agree.
      At my second interview for a job, I was told that, if hired, I would be on trial for 3 months. I replied that I welcomed the opportunity of getting to know the company before making a long term decision, they replied that _I_ was expected to commit long term from day one.
      We ended up working together for three years, but I had to help them fix their hiring process and expectations a little bit.

    31. Re:Unprofessional all around by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      The difference is that in the adult world, the basis is on work performance, competence, and factors that directly affect how a given candidate will (or won't) contribute to the team.

      But that's not what you said - you said, specifically, that you weeded resumes based on the reputation in the eyes of of others of the individual applying for the job. "Dickwad" was the exact term if I'm not mistaken.

      And that's not on a different level, no matter how much smoke you blow.

    32. Re:Unprofessional all around by Pope · · Score: 1

      Sounds more like a high school clique than anything else - a couple of people don't like you, and bam you're isolated and shunned.

      If you prove to someone that's trying to offer you a job that you're an unprofessional jackass, of course word will get around.

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    33. Re:Unprofessional all around by kellymcdonald78 · · Score: 1

      The problem is that hiring someone to "test them on the job" is not free, in fact making a bad hiring decision can cost hundreds of thousands of dollars (onboarding, training, salaries/benefits, disruption to the team, cost of poor quality, severance and rehiring, etc). The outcome also often falls on the shoulders of the hiring manager, as a result most managers are generally very conservative when making hiring decisions. You wouldn't trust a contractor to do a $100k reno to your house without looking at their reputation

    34. Re:Unprofessional all around by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      Assuming that all the people you hear from are acting as reasonable adults and not holding a grudge or personal vendetta or something.

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    35. Re:Unprofessional all around by DerekLyons · · Score: 1

      That sound you heard was my point whooshing over your pointy head.

    36. Re:Unprofessional all around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I work in a unionized tech environment. Started off with a can-do attitude, worked at a fast pace. And then I realized it was pointless. Since any firable offence short of intentionally causing a customer data breach requires a warning, and everyone gets the same raises regardless of productivity, it was far more enjoyable to surf the web 7 hours a day (after spending the 1st hour doing the minimum to make sure the entire system doesn't come crashing down). If and when I get my warning, I will go back to working hard for a little while, then the warning expires and I can slack off again. The interns and consultants have to do all the work, I kinda feel sorry for them.

      Want to fix it? Reward hard workers, punish lazy ones! Because right now, the hard workers are the stupid ones and the lazy ones have a better time at work...

    37. Re:Unprofessional all around by PrimaryConsult · · Score: 1

      A company where you can take a vacation whenever you want sounds like a good gig...

    38. Re:Unprofessional all around by CodeInspired · · Score: 1

      Maybe so, but being a dickhat smartypants makes me feel so much better about it. I walk out smiling instead of feeling bummed about wasting my time.

    39. Re:Unprofessional all around by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Bullshit.

      Employers also have reputations. e.g. Nobody I know would consider working for EDS...or taking anything proposed by them seriously. They are also a resume stain. That's what decades of overcommitting, underdelivering and abusing young, incompetent staff gets them.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    40. Re:Unprofessional all around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Your bad reputation isn't Collusion. Your bad reputation, and ability to be an ass hat is exactly why unions are a bad idea. If people that have never worked for you know your name, that isn't collusion. That is your big mouth getting you in trouble the old fashioned way, sans Facebook stupidity.

    41. Re:Unprofessional all around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, because we don't want to work with asshats. Give you a hint, the union won't let you fire your coworkers.

    42. Re:Unprofessional all around by Copid · · Score: 1

      I think it's more like, "As opposed to whether you start acting like a dick when you disagree with somebody rather than being professional about it."

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    43. Re:Unprofessional all around by unitron · · Score: 1

      I once went to an interview where the interviewer was on vacation. When she contacted me later, I told her that I was no longer interested in working for her company. That was a bit of an understatement, I would not have worked for them under any circumstances I could imagine.

      On vacation as in you showed up and she didn't, or as in she combined being wherever the interview took place with being in that area on vacation, in effect, getting some of her company's work done while and in spite of being on vacation?

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    44. Re:Unprofessional all around by jsrjsr · · Score: 1

      As in I showed up and she didn't.

    45. Re:Unprofessional all around by mvdwege · · Score: 1

      It's not the mere fact that you can't just be an 'ass hat' that is the problem. What is the problem is that employers communicate these things among each other (that is how you gain a reputation, and that is collusion), forcing employees to put up with inane questions on interviews for fear of losing an opportunity.

      And if you can't see that this is a power imbalance that can only be fixed by taking collective action on the employees end, then congratulations, you're an idiot. Go read some Adam Smith to educate yourself.

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    46. Re:Unprofessional all around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you're that certain you do not wish the job, don't make peoples day any more difficult by being a dickhat. Just politely end the interview saying you are no longer interested in the position.

      That kind of response sends the message loud and clear that it was their interview that drove you away and may push them to explain why they were asking such shitty questions. If nothing else it avoids creating an instant adversarial position where your indignation is written off as "you being a dickhat" not that there might be something wrong with their interview process.

      Your entire post is about the fact that everyone "gives a crap if you act like a smartypants".

      We're adults, grow the hell up and stop assuming anyone gives a crap if you act like a smartypants.

      So I guess you're not an adult yet because you still think there's a difference between an adult and a child.

    47. Re:Unprofessional all around by DeathToThePatriarchy · · Score: 1

      No -- you quickly find out who in your circle has been told things they don't want to hear by their employees and are willing to blackball them. Make very certain that the folk you are blackballing don't all match certain demographics or you could be in for a very large lawsuit. That could be won simply on the blackballing (called restraint of trade in CA, not sure what it is called, other than SOP, in AZ.). For years, I have had to note to those doing background checks that one group for which I worked gave a "would not rehire" response for anyone who quit. Their name got known, too. If workers come to know who is doing the blackballing/restraint of trade, you might well find yourself unable to hire decent workers, because they can work places that do not discriminate on the basis of one guy whose nose is out of joint. Oh, and I think I know several of the worst offenders in this, just by word of mouth from applicants.

    48. Re:Unprofessional all around by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Right, because unions have consistently shown that they only act on behalf of their members, aren't burdensome to anyone, and always improve the relationship dynamics between technical employees and their employers. You're already fucked if you need a union to participate in your given field - expecting any 3rd party to truly have your best interests in mind is unrealistic. Keep your skills sharp and your experience current, but always remember you're the best negotiator for your interests at the end of the day and act accordingly.

  10. How often do you get stressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    My response was never, stress gets no work done, I budget for it after the issue resolution.

    My response did not change inspite of the question being asked 3 more times, the interviewer got stressed and ended the interview. Interviews are crappy, if the manager does not know what the deliverable is

    1. Re:How often do you get stressed by the_B0fh · · Score: 0

      I wish my mods didn't just run out, you definitely deserve a few of them :)

    2. Re:How often do you get stressed by houstonbofh · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I have actually had problems with not showing appropriate stress when management expected it. I usually moved on soon after that became apparent.

    3. Re: How often do you get stressed by Mabhatter · · Score: 2

      I' think I've run into that before, but I "vented" enough to satisfy them. I won't get "mad" at work under extreme duress... I'm a scream and throw shit across the room person when I'm really angry. I have meds and therapy for that for years to behave myself. Don't poke the Bear kids. I don't EVER want to do that at work unless its to defend myself from attack.

    4. Re:How often do you get stressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stress, by definition, is something that we - as humans - require to get stuff done. Your claim that you don't get stressed suggests that you think yourself exceptional, and likely far beyond us.

      There's a good chance that is why the interviewer ended the interview: you marked yourself as an egotist, and were let go.

    5. Re:How often do you get stressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stress, by definition, is something that we - as humans - require to get stuff done.

      Stress is often associated with unpleasant emotions and the act of scrambling about as the deadline approaches.

      I am not him, but I have not experienced these things. I am completely calm and rarely feel anything at all.

      Your claim that you don't get stressed suggests that you think yourself exceptional, and likely far beyond us.

      There's a good chance that is why the interviewer ended the interview: you marked yourself as an egotist, and were let go.

      You seem to think that everyone is like you.

    6. Re:How often do you get stressed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You misinterpreted. Management wasn't looking for stress. They were looking for urgency and your understanding of the priorities. It is always important to "show" you care about the same things management does. Doesn't matter what those things are. Just matters that you treat them as a priority and show management that you get it.

      Personally, nothing pisses me off more than when I (the owner/manager) thinks something needs to be done and all I get is a half-hearted shrug in return. Especially when it has to do with customer facing stuff. Regardless of what you meant to say, here is what I hear: "Yea, yea....I hear you. I'll get to it when I get to it and it may or may not be a priority to me". I don't need you to overly stress or run around like you are on fire but I do need you to acknowledge the seriousness/urgency of the situation. If I don't hear that acknowledgement, I can easily think you don't give a shit.

      That is why you had problems: your employer or manager did not think you gave a shit. Maybe you did and maybe you didn't. Either way, my guess is you didn't show it.

      There is no faster path to the unemployment line than apathy.

    7. Re:How often do you get stressed by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      Not necessarily.

      There are some non-technical bosses who judge themselves by how stressed their staff is. If you are calm you are underworked.

      They will give you more tasks until it appears you are barely getting by, then they will pat themselves on the back for running such an efficient department.

      These people are idiots of the highest order.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    8. Re:How often do you get stressed by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      AC doesn't self start. If he had an adequate schedule he would slack off until he was sufficiently 'stressed' to get stuff done.

      Never hire AC.

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      John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
    9. Re:How often do you get stressed by PrimaryConsult · · Score: 1

      I feel like a possible solution for this is to figure out what the most important tasks on your list are, and do them in reverse order. The "stressing out your staff" method doesn't work if they give their staff a proper priority list (as that would relieve their stress). This will backfire spectacularly on your stress inducing manager as suddenly *they* are stressed because the important shit isn't getting done, and the worst thing they can say about you is that you are incapable of prioritizing correctly, which is technically the job of management to begin with.

    10. Re:How often do you get stressed by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      No. The solution to that is a new boss. Usually that means a new job.

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    11. Re:How often do you get stressed by PrimaryConsult · · Score: 1

      Well of course, that part is obvious. But while looking, you need *something* to make your crappy job less crappy...

    12. Re:How often do you get stressed by houstonbofh · · Score: 1

      No, some want you to freak out and panic and run around like a chicken with the head cut off, just like they do. When you calmly listen, and do what is needed, and do not panic, they can either misunderstand and think you do not care, or see it as a threat as you are handling things better than them. Either way, it is a management failure that can not be fixed by you, so it is generally better to look into other opportunities at that point. Thankfully, at my level it is quite rare, but early in my working life it happened a lot more often. Generally, they do not remain manages like that for long.

    13. Re:How often do you get stressed by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

      You can just perfect the art of acting stressed while doing less and less work; stupid metrics deserve to be gamed.

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  11. The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For director-level types, not engineers ("How does the Internet work?"), especially with follow-ups to nail someone who has googled and memorized the canned "answer".

    This could filter out those who have the requisite charisma and social skills but who don't have a clue about the technology.

    1. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by grcumb · · Score: 4, Interesting

      For director-level types, not engineers ("How does the Internet work?"), especially with follow-ups to nail someone who has googled and memorized the canned "answer".

      This could filter out those who have the requisite charisma and social skills but who don't have a clue about the technology.

      A friend of mine once suggested that the best possible question you could ask of a potential sysadmin was, 'Explain how traceroute works.' There are so many levels of 'right' answer that you can determine whether the interviewee is a rank amateur or whether she's currently communing with the spirit of Ada Lovelace and spontaneously generating CS zen koans using the AI in her programmable calculator.

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    2. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Mashiki · · Score: 1

      How does traceroute work? Well that's easy, hamsters run along the tubes and deliver the information. They're very fast hamsters...it's the electric shocks that help.

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    3. Re: The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would have said "it's like a big truck lost in a series of tubes."

    4. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Firstly which one? Microsoft's version or Unix/Unixlike traditional? ;).

      On a related note I've tried to get new staff to look up stuff to explain what happens at a networking level when you look something up with a browser (e.g. from arp requests, DNS, TCP handshake etc). Somehow they don't seem interested (I'm not in charge of hiring them). For bonus points explain what happens at an application and OS level, but as I said, nobody seemed interested in even learning about the first bit.

    5. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by lgw · · Score: 1

      For filesystem or storage driver devs, the equivalent question is "what does fopen() do". The more you know, the more it does.

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    6. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by mysidia · · Score: 1

      Explain how traceroute works.

      Except there are several different traceroute implementations -- that all do things differently.

    7. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A friend of mine once suggested that the best possible question you could ask of a potential sysadmin was, 'Explain how traceroute works.' There are so many levels of 'right' answer that you can determine whether the interviewee is a rank amateur

      Oooo, I know this! It uses TTL on the ICMP or something, right? Unless there's a firewall that blocks ICMP, those are so common since last decade, y'know? Especially the personal firewalls that became so popular when Windows XP was new; those things made ping useless practically overnight! So instead on a LAN you could use ARP instead of ICMP but if you're not on the same broadcast segment as the target you could try sending TCP packets and hope you get a reply. It helps to know what ports are open and what kind of traffic the target can be expected to respond to though because there could be firewalls in between the source and the target that just blackhole unrecognized traffic. Bottom line is with firewalls everywhere traceroute has been unreliable, at best, for something like, 13 years already. So ... why are you even asking about traceroute?

      I talk like this all the time!

      Try not to make the questions so trivial that the interviewer seems like a rank amateur, you know what I'm saying? Like this!

      Q: "What's the subnet mask for a Class B network?"
      A: "Twofivefivedottwofivefivedotzerodotzero now can we please get back to the interview?"
      Q: "What brands of routers have you used?"
      A: "Brands? Routers need brands?! The last router I used was a box I built out of an old workstation, two network cards, and a patched Linux kernel. It got the job done, let me tell you. Fun times were had by all. Well except those guys who said what's a workstation doing in a phone closet why isn't it rackmounted like all the rackmounts. Say is this interview going to drag on for much longer, and do you need any real work done around here, or are you in the business of conducting interviews?"

    8. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by NFN_NLN · · Score: 1

      'Explain how traceroute works.' There are so many levels of 'right'

      Isn't it just a steady stream of packets with increasing TTLs coming back until you hit your destination, get turned back or give up?

    9. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by SuperKendall · · Score: 1

      That's how the internet works, but does not answer the question...

      Traceroute obviously works by tying a string to the hamster before sending it off, then reeling the string back and tasting the various segments for the flavors of tubes the hamster travelled through.

      That's why only the people with the most finely developed sense of taste really get good answers from traceroute, and why tech companies are so keen on poaching the tasting staff from companies like Twinings.

      --
      "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
    10. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      New people can't even be coaxed into opening Wireshark and looking at it. They don't care about the network until their precious protocol breaks because it's sending needlessly redundant data inside of UDP packets that weigh in at just slightly larger than the MTU and the inevitable fragments are being discarded somewhere between producer and consumer. And even then they won't look at Wireshark, no, they'll find some nerdy nerd to do it for them because app developers don't need to know anything that isn't apppppppy.

    11. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by funwithBSD · · Score: 1

      How does the Internet work?

      It works by everyone playing nice. When someone does not play nice, it does not work very well.

      --
      Never answer an anonymous letter. - Yogi Berra
    12. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A friend of mine once suggested that the best possible question you could ask of a potential sysadmin was, 'Explain how traceroute works.'

      That works for a network admin, but a sysadmin rarely needs to use traceroute, let alone know how it works. Does a sysadmin need to know the assembly languages for all architectures? Some things only need to be a black box.

    13. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That is the terse answer, yes. Of course some people think that going into detail about ICMP and data fields may be useful, though I suspect most businesses would prefer an answer similar to:

      "It is a tool that allows me to find congested, broken, or inefficient network routes."

    14. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's what you tell the interviewer. Either the interviewer will ask you to describe one of them, or if you don't have the social skills of a rock, you offer to describe one of them to show that you know at least something about it.

    15. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A friend of mine once suggested that the best possible question you could ask of a potential sysadmin was, 'Explain how traceroute works.'

      "Just because I don't know what it is, it doesn't mean I'm lying."

    16. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by hawkingradiation · · Score: 1

      Actually, I believe I have found the answer to this question, and have done so by googling: Read the Request for Comments from the Internet Engineering Task Force, then get back to me in a couple of years. Have a nice read and hope to see you in the new job!

      --
      Society use your Sciences
    17. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yes. you gave a good answer.

      a better answer would have been the type of packet.

      The way you answered (that you thought it was a simple question) also tells me a lot about your level of understanding. In this case you do not consider TCP/IP in any way mysterious or black magic.

      I would followup with "cool, now can you please explain how a DNS query is resolved"

    18. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes.

      I guess a more advanced answer would show familiarity with the TCP/IP protocol relationship and point out at what layer the TTL is invoked.

      Bonus points for highlighting that the route may not appear to resolve if the route is changing during the trace.

    19. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So?

      It's not a auto-graded school exam. There doesn't have to be a single "right" answer. If you reply that "there are several different traceroute implementations -- that all do things differently" that's a very useful answer for the employer, because then they know that you know enough about traceroute to know that there are different implementations of it. That's what job interviews are about, and it's astounding how many commenters, both here and in TFA, don't get that.

    20. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by stealth_finger · · Score: 1

      That is the terse answer, yes. Of course some people think that going into detail about ICMP and data fields may be useful, though I suspect most businesses would prefer an answer similar to:

      "It is a tool that allows me to find congested, broken, or inefficient network routes."

      But that's what it is, not how it works.

      --
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    21. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Quite. Given that it's Akamai, "How does the Internet work" seems like a completely up front and entirely relevant question to ask.

    22. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Traceroute? Oh, I've been calling it Traceright this whole time, because it's named tracert.exe

    23. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

      I can tell that you, Mr. Smart Guy, have never really interviewed in the position of the guy doing the hiring. You would be amazed how many candidates can't even answer the most basic questions. Last fall interviewing on-campus at some reasonably well respected schools I got completely fed up with the so-called CS majors that I damn near started the interviews with, "Pick a language. Any language. Write 'hello world'." Yes, people a year or two away from graduating with a CS degree were actually failing that level of question.

      But I didn't want to seem snarky as an interviewer, either. So I started things out by saying, "Look, I'm going to start with some pretty basic questions." Then I'd ask things like what's a netmask or what are the arguments to main() or something like that. From there I could either move quickly to the real questions or to a polite brush-off. (And I had to do a truly depressing number of brush-offs.)

      The same can be said for on-site interviews, too. Especially on the phone. I called you because your resume sounded promising. Now I have to find out if that impression is right or if you're just blowing smoke.

      So yes, the interviewer knows the starting questions are ridiculously easy. They're meant to be. Try not to be an asshole about it. (And btw, a router "built out of an old workstation, two network cards, and a patched Linux kernel" is hardly impressive. Answering that way just tells the interviewer that you have absolutely no experience but you think you're god's gift to the data center. No experience is fine, we all started there. Just drop the attitude.)

      --
      Chelloveck
      I give up on debugging. From now on, SIGSEGV is a feature.
    24. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I always wanted to write a daemon for re-tarring archives, just so I could call it "retard"

    25. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Cederic · · Score: 1

      I don't look at Wireshark at work because.. it's in that class of system that needs director level approval to use legitimately on a work network, by someone with a genuine need, with appropriate controls and oversight.

      I'd rather get someone with expertise at the protocol level and a regular need to use Wireshark to do that for me, as they'll be quicker and will already have the right governance in place to assure they're not misbehaving.

      Next you'll be suggesting that web developers should be sacked if they don't run Nessus against the production servers.

    26. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Cederic · · Score: 1

      The problem is, given it's Akamai the right answer could well be, "Ok, I'm going to need a whiteboard, and order some coffee."

      I have the background and skills to interview for Director level there and I could probably fill the best part of a day covering how the Internet works without going off-topic for Akamai.

      Not a good use of interview time, but it's a stupid question in that regard. My immediate response would probably be to query just what they wanted to know, so that I could give them the two minute answer instead, and that alone tells you it's a stupid question.

    27. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Copid · · Score: 1

      Exactly this. I found that a set of basic "find your ass with both hands" questions washes out more than half of the applicants right off the bat. A lot of people are insulted that they have to do such pedestrian things as "write simple C code" during an interview for an embedded software position, but if you can hang on for a few minutes to get through it, you actually get to the real interview.

      --
      An interesting anagram of "BANACH TARSKI" is "BANACH TARSKI BANACH TARSKI"
    28. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by Wootery · · Score: 1

      will already have the right governance in place to assure they're not misbehaving

      You mean The boss trusts them, I'm sure.

    29. Re:The Akamai question is actually pretty good by n7ytd · · Score: 1

      Fizzbuzz for the win. Depressing, but it is an accurate test.

  12. Missed the obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Q: "What's your least favorite thing about humanity?"
    A: "You"

    Can't believe the interviewee didn't think of that one.

    1. Re:Missed the obvious by noh8rz10 · · Score: 1

      Q: "What's your least favorite thing about humanity?"

      A: [insert the name of a subset of the population]. Interview = exploded.

    2. Re:Missed the obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Q: "What's your least favorite thing about humanity?"

      A: "ALL OF THEM!"

    3. Re:Missed the obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    4. Re:Missed the obvious by drkim · · Score: 1

      Q: "What's your least favorite thing about humanity?"

      I like to pull off my dark shades and launch into this speech:

      "I'd like to share a revelation that I've had during my time here. It came to me when I tried to classify your species and I realized that you're not actually mammals. Every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with the surrounding environment but you humans do not.

      You move to an area and you multiply and multiply until every natural resource is consumed and the only way you can survive is to spread to another area.

      There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet."

      ...and then I give 'em a big smile and say, "Soooo, when do I start?"

    5. Re:Missed the obvious by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Less (or more, at least in number?) insulting: "humans"

  13. stop whining and... by ionymous · · Score: 2

    just answer the questions like you're talking to another human, because you are.
    You're too elitist if you think someone's question is stupid. Not all people are geniuses, and most employees aren't trained in interviewing.
    Plus the question might be weird on purpose to see how you react. Don't be an ass.

    1. Re:stop whining and... by marxzed · · Score: 1, Insightful

      I think whining constitutes "talking to another human" and certanly seems to constitute 98% of most "professional" communications.
      so, if job interviews were based on reality rather than some infantile fantasy world whining and snarking would actually good things to do in a job interview as it would show you fitted in to the corporate culture

    2. Re:stop whining and... by ionymous · · Score: 1

      My 15 years of professional employment at 4 companies has been much different than yours.

    3. Re:stop whining and... by Rob+the+Bold · · Score: 2

      just answer the questions like you're talking to another human, because you are.

      At some point, you'd begin to wonder, especially if it was a phone interview.

      --
      I am not a crackpot.
    4. Re:stop whining and... by Euler · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I agree. If a job candidate doesn't like the questions, I would expect them to react in a way that I could tolerate if I had to work with them. It is actually a good thing to pull a Kobayashi Maru in most cases as long as it seems like something that would be feasible. It is okay in the real-world to have a critical opinion as long as it is polite and constructive in the long-run.

      I've been on the asking side of these questions several times now. (Not questions quite as silly as the examples in the article, but nonetheless...) HR said "pick 4 questions from this book and score according to this answer key." Obviously, the whole thing is highly subjective and the scoring is more about how a person reacts. Some of the questions are way too vague to be useful, but usually they allow you to gauge the behavior of a person. You basically want to find out how a person handles typical adverse situations that arise in a work environment. i.e. professional disagreements, impossible goals, annoying customers, etc.
      I've seen many different reactions. It's okay if a person declines to answer maybe 1 out of the 4, but in some cases, people have claimed they never had an adverse situation. Not a good answer. Most people just try to answer the questions in a bland way with the 'expected' answer. So I need to hear something that tells me a person really cares, either by re-engineering the question, or having a really specific answer that would be hard to fabricate on the spot.

      So you can be critical of these questions, but consider being in the shoes of an employer. You try writing questions for an interview that are not too vague, and can cut through peoples' BS'ing.

       

    5. Re:stop whining and... by epyT-R · · Score: 1

      Why ask an open ended question that's designed to torpedo the rapport between yourself and the potential employee? Stick to relevant topics instead of trying to make people squirm.

      Whoever's training HR people nowadays needs a checkup from the neck up.

    6. Re:stop whining and... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      ha ha ha

      "stop whining"

      The go-to phrase of the bully.
      Kinda fits in with your pathological need to hire guys who are agreeable.
      Because those are the ones you can push around more easily.

      That's brilliant buddy. Absolutely brilliant.

    7. Re:stop whining and... by pete6677 · · Score: 1

      To add to this: interviewers asking lazy questions (What is your greatest weakness?) should expect lazy, canned answers (I work too hard). If you want to gauge someone's critical thinking skills, ask a creative question requiring original thought to answer. Not some question that can be found on a list of 50 top interview questions.

  14. 12) How does the Internet work? by danknight48 · · Score: 2

    The clouds talk to each other though the use of touch.
    We receive the data via a stream of electricity in thunderstorms.

    Its all in the cloud, so simple, everyones happy.

  15. Re:Blowing ... job by noh8rz10 · · Score: 0

    first post fail.

  16. A related job question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "What professional achievement are you the most proud of?"

    First post.

  17. "well, pretty sure that wraps this interview up" by marxzed · · Score: 1

    was how I ended a skype interview for a job in New Zealand.

    "you Western Australian's eat gold and shit diamonds, why would want to come to some backwater like (name of city) for half the pay"

    OK so the organisation was losing a lot of their staff left right and centre to mining companies in the Australian city I live in but do you really want to work for someone who talks down one of the most beautiful rural cities in the world

  18. www.thedailywtf.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    most of our employees have to do trouble shoooting at clients, so we give them a test early in the interview
    The candidate is seated in aroom with a secretary type person, who after a few minutes, says, hey are you a tech guy - my printer isn't working
    The candidates who say you need to download linux to install drivers don't get hired
    The ones who say, hey, no problem, the printer was unplugged, get to the next stage

    I actually thought a lot of the 16 questions were pretty good...fuzzy tennis balls at xerox and how does the internet work at akamai are ok questions, depneding on the job

    1. Re:www.thedailywtf.com by tepples · · Score: 1

      hey are you a tech guy - my printer isn't working

      I'd start asking what the secretary means by "not working": "When you try to print a document, does the printer start making noises? Does an error message appear on the computer's display, and if so, what is the exact wording?"

    2. Re: www.thedailywtf.com by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "That's not a printer - it's a multiport repeater."

    3. Re:www.thedailywtf.com by funwithBSD · · Score: 1

      Are you allowed to use a scope when shooting at clients? I find it is less trouble.

      --
      Never answer an anonymous letter. - Yogi Berra
    4. Re:www.thedailywtf.com by nebulus4 · · Score: 1

      The candidate is seated in aroom with a secretary type person, who after a few minutes, says, hey are you a tech guy - my printer isn't working

      And an obvious answer would be: "Yes, I am a tech guy and would really like to help you. Really, but unfortunately I don't work here... yet."

      --
      "It would be wrong to refuse to face the fact that everything is fundamentally sick and sad."
  19. Wow, by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This post is as pointless as the Interview questions.

  20. Be Careful by Trip6 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You want to be snarky? Go ahead - enjoy it and feel good about yourself. But remember that the professional world in which you play is a VERY small one, and word gets around.

    --
    I hate being bipolar; it's awesome!
    1. Re:Be Careful by Harlequin80 · · Score: 2, Interesting

      And seriously why would you have issues with these questions? You might think they are silly, but perhaps that is the point.

      There are going to be lots of crap things you have to do at work. Crap things "you" think are pointless and stupid and, despite what you may think, your employer knows that you don't want to do these things. They have their reasons even if you don't agree with them. If you respond like a cock in the interview you will be a cock to work with.

      Also lets take the tennis ball question, one that is so well known that I had never heard it before. It is a behavioural question. If the person sitting opposite me answers it accurately due to knowledge of aerodynamics it actually tells me very little. However if the person tries to guess, or freezes, or says "I have no idea" all tell you quite a lot about how they will approach their work.

      No it's not an exact science, yes a lot of it has as much reliability as homoeopathy, but you are making a decision to hire someone on a piece of paper that is going to be at least partially false, the word of people that person has personally picked (no bias there!) and the gut reaction based on a couple of hours of talking to that person.

      Having hired close to 40 people to work directly for me over the past 8 years I can tell you that I HATE the hiring process. And after hiring a number of people that have been downright toxic to my business I now work on the premise that I will say no on even the barest hint the person I am talking to is a wanker. I'm sure I have missed some amazing talent now as a result but missing someone brilliant is a small price to pay for not getting a terrorist (terrorist - Good outcome, bad attitude).

    2. Re:Be Careful by interkin3tic · · Score: 1

      "Hey, did you hear about that kid who interviewed at Xerox for the Client Manager position? They asked him why a tennis ball was fuzzy, and he said, I shit you not, 'Because they're too ornery to shear'! Yeah, that guys a ticking time bomb waiting to go off. I mean what type of asshole doesn't take our well thought out interview questions seriously! You better not hire him!"

      I don't know if such a conversation is likely to take place, but if it does, seems like it would only close a lot of doors you wouldn't want to go through anyway.

      Also, oblig XKCD.

    3. Re:Be Careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No, the professional world in which you play is not small. It's huge. Tremendously huge. It's bigger than we can wrap our heads around.

    4. Re:Be Careful by Harlequin80 · · Score: 2

      But if I got that answer I would think he would be excellent for a client management role! That response is incredibly sharp, shows a sense of humour and an ability to not come up with a boring answer. I don't believe I could have come up with that witty a rejoiner in the middle of a stressful situation (ie a job interview)

      Not only that, but in Australia anyway ornery is a very unusual word to use. It demonstrates a very good vocabulary and probably an interest in the written word and communication that so many people lack. If the tone of the conversation was right this response would stand a person in good stead.

      The fact that the original article sees it as the opposite is a bigger reflection on the original author than on the questions.

    5. Re:Be Careful by YukariHirai · · Score: 1

      Also lets take the tennis ball question, one that is so well known that I had never heard it before. It is a behavioural question. If the person sitting opposite me answers it accurately due to knowledge of aerodynamics it actually tells me very little. However if the person tries to guess, or freezes, or says "I have no idea" all tell you quite a lot about how they will approach their work.

      Indeed. And personally, the answer I'd want to hear if I asked that in a job interview would be "Not sure off the top of my head, but give me a couple of minutes and I'll find out."

      And after hiring a number of people that have been downright toxic to my business I now work on the premise that I will say no on even the barest hint the person I am talking to is a wanker. I'm sure I have missed some amazing talent now as a result but missing someone brilliant is a small price to pay for not getting a terrorist (terrorist - Good outcome, bad attitude).

      I'd tend to agree there. Better to have a nice idiot than a genius arsehole.

    6. Re:Be Careful by Redmancometh · · Score: 1

      I wouldn't say ornery during an interview here in Texas. They'll think your a redneck, because that's one of their favorite words. Rednecks get the shaft when it comes to the tech industry. I do find a light touch of the accent helps my rapport though.

    7. Re:Be Careful by bill_mcgonigle · · Score: 2


      You want to be snarky? Go ahead - enjoy it and feel good about yourself.

      But it's only an ego high. The rest of you will suffer for it. If the only benefit of something is to feed one's ego, then it's almost always a bad idea.

      --
      My God, it's Full of Source!
      OUTSIDE_IP=$(dig +short my.ip @outsideip.net)
    8. Re:Be Careful by dwater · · Score: 1

      > Not only that, but in Australia anyway ornery is a very unusual word to use

      Indeed, I had to look it up, and I *am* English - with coming up to 50 years' of experience.

      --
      Max.
    9. Re:Be Careful by ruir · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It depends. In my 20s maybe, just maybe I wouldnt have problems with those questions. In my 40s I am negotiating a business proposition with you, I am something very solid and palpable to offer you, my vast years of experience. You are not doing my any favour at all, let me stress this, we are conducting a business. Our time is valuable too, as we already have to juggle family, work, and leisure. I also have quite a surprising war chest, and am not desperate for work. Heck, I have a good job actually, convince me it would be fantastic to work with you. Would you have issues answering my stupid questions? I believe you would have. After all, it is also in my interest not to work with dicks. Life is too short for me too. No sir, we are adults, we are conducting business, respect this, respect me and leave the stupid questions at the door. If you want respect, you have to respect.

    10. Re:Be Careful by ruir · · Score: 1

      The fact that you ask me vague and pointless questions tell me a lot of work ethics and subjective evaluation of people. It also tells me I dont want to work with you. Life is too short. To elaborate, read the answer above...

    11. Re:Be Careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's funny how you keep bumping into people in life, when you least expect it... and often you don't remember them but they sure as fuck remember you.

    12. Re:Be Careful by Alioth · · Score: 1

      But it's a vague and pointless question. Personally I don't care why tennis balls have fuzz and nor am I likely to ever care. It isn't even remotely linked to my line of work.

      There are some interview questions that people have said are stupid (in this vein) but are in fact not. For instance I remember one of these "Stupid interview question" stories in the Daily WTF a while back, where the fellow being interviewed was asked "How do you work out the square root of a number?" and then progressively denied all the sensible options (from importing the math library for his language of choice). While the way the interviewer had asked the question was inane, it was actually a very relevant question to ask a person interviewing for a technical job, which the tennis ball fuzz one does not. It allows the candidate a way how to explain how they would go about finding a square root, and also discuss some optimization strategies (e.g. imagine we're working with a microcontroller which doesn't even have a divide instruction - we can talk about optimizing for speed or for space or a compromise). The tennis ball question does none of this and just makes you wonder if the company is actually worth working for.

      An interview is often two ways. In tech jobs it's often that the candidate isn't unemployed and desperate but just looking for a job that might be better in some way than their current gig. The interviewee should at some stage become the interviewer and try to find out whether the company and the staff at that location is something they want to be working for.

    13. Re:Be Careful by ruir · · Score: 1

      orn... what? lol

    14. Re:Be Careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And the HR process is confidential.
      So they better be careful because litigation is expensive and embarrassing.

    15. Re:Be Careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > And seriously why would you have issues with these questions?
      Because they are bs questions for jerking someone around. The interviewer can do whatever in his own time but stop wasting mine.

    16. Re:Be Careful by PRMan · · Score: 1

      It's a common word in the American midwest and south.

      --
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    17. Re:Be Careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Door swings both ways, and GlassDoor.com reaches more people. Try me asshole! I'll burn your shithole org's rep to the fucking ground you poisonous disgusting fuck.

    18. Re:Be Careful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And woe is them if they do run into me. I love attacking people in public for being the assholes they are. It's delicious. Try me motherfucker. Just - try - me.

    19. Re:Be Careful by Cederic · · Score: 1

      It's smaller than you think. Especially if you work at 2-3 large companies.

      My current employer employs people that worked at the same company as me three jobs ago. Today I interviewed someone that worked at my previous employer - in another city half the country away.

      Kevin Bacon is only 6 degrees away, professional colleagues are far closer.

  21. um, yeah by roc97007 · · Score: 4, Funny

    I would be reluctant to blow up an interview just because there aren't that many people in my field, and no matter how ridiculous this particular interview, I might run into these people in some other environment where I *wanted* the job.

    But this calls to mind a time I was trying to get an associate a job, who had been out of work more than two years. I had aced the interview, but we could not agree on price (they were offering a little less than what I was currently making) so we parted on good terms. I got in touch with them later, told them I personally vouched for another IT professional who would be a good fit for the position. They called him in for the interview. A few questions in, this happened:

    "Describe a good work day."

    "Well, I suppose that'd be a day when I haven't killed anyone."

    Interview over.

    Sigh. You just can't help some people.

    --
    Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
    1. Re:um, yeah by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Thats a legitimate description of a good day from someone who is ex-military.

    2. Re:um, yeah by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Thats a legitimate description of a good day from someone who is ex-military.

      ...and it just so happens, he is. I didn't think about that part. But I have to say, it's still not something one says in an interview.

      --
      Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
    3. Re:um, yeah by dwater · · Score: 2

      If an answer ever made me want to terminate an interview suddenly, I am pretty sure I would try to make sure I had interpreted them correct and ask them to explain their response.

      --
      Max.
    4. Re:um, yeah by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      You're right, but it's still a down economy, and often you get tens of viable IT candidates for one or two openings. Candidates tend to be cut fewer breaks.

      If the candidate was very promising except for one off answer, the hiring manager would be irresponsible not to explore it. But the bar gets raised in proportion to the candidate per opening ratio.

      --
      Oliver's law of assumed responsibility: If you're seen fixing it, you will be blamed for breaking it.
  22. No one has ever asked me questions like that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But then I'm well known for not suffering fools quietly, so I don't think anyone would dare. However, I also don't apply to places reported to indulge in such BS.

    Truth is I'd probably be so astonished I'd just stare. The best response to fools is silence.

  23. Best way... by MasseKid · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The best way to light the path to your future is by burning the bridges of your past.

    1. Re:Best way... by thegarbz · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If you want a wholesale career change I'd agree with that. If you want to work in the same field I'd say that advice is retarded.

    2. Re:Best way... by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      "Well just have to burn that bridge when we come to it."

      --
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    3. Re:Best way... by Trogre · · Score: 1

      No, no it isn't. A nice witty phrase, yes, but it is not true.

      --
      "Nine times out of ten, starting a fire is not the best way to solve the problem." - my wife
  24. What is the difference between a duck? by wisnoskij · · Score: 3, Funny

    "How would you move a mountain using only a spoon?
      If you were in a box, how would you think outside it?
      Last question: What is the difference between a duck?"

    --
    Troll is not a replacement for I disagree.
    1. Re:What is the difference between a duck? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I would mount my frame of reference to the spoon and throw it past the mountain, or carry it if I wasn't trying to be dramatic

      Being in a box isn't really the same thing as being in it. I know, I've been in the thick of it a number of times. I think that being in a box might be a bit like being in a pickle, but it's certainly not as bad as being in it. As a result, all thinking would be outside of it. If you're in it, you know. You'll prefer the box.

      The width of a duck. All the stuff between the two sides of a duck make a difference exactly the same width as the duck.

    2. Re:What is the difference between a duck? by jklein · · Score: 1

      One leg's the same.

    3. Re:What is the difference between a duck? by jbeaupre · · Score: 2

      "Make the spoon the reference, then move the spoon."
      "I think I am outside it, therefore I am outside it."
      "A near miss"

      --
      The world is made by those who show up for the job.
    4. Re:What is the difference between a duck? by funwithBSD · · Score: 2

      Try to remember:

      There is no spoon.

      --
      Never answer an anonymous letter. - Yogi Berra
    5. Re:What is the difference between a duck? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of its legs is both the same.

    6. Re:What is the difference between a duck? by ruir · · Score: 1

      Those questions are very EASY to answer. I am not interested in dealing with you. Good luck and good afternoon.

    7. Re:What is the difference between a duck? by PRMan · · Score: 1

      "How would you move a mountain using only a spoon?

      I would ask my manager for a giant earthmover. And if I were continually expected to work with inefficient tools, I would look for work elsewhere.

      --
      Peter predicted that you would "deliberately forget" creation 2000 years ago...
    8. Re:What is the difference between a duck? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "How would you move a mountain using only a spoon?

      Be sure to only move mountains that have been formed from mole-hills

      If you were in a box, how would you think outside it?

      Marmalade.

      Last question: What is the difference between a duck?"

      viability as bridge building material.

    9. Re:What is the difference between a duck? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      One of his legs is both the same.

    10. Re:What is the difference between a duck? by TangoMargarine · · Score: 1

      What is the difference between a duck?

      "I'm sorry, I thought this wasn't a Ruby position. I don't like Ruby."

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    11. Re:What is the difference between a duck? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Spooning leads to mounting.
      By beating the crap out of the other guy in the ring before thinking.
      Hmm, can't find any way to duck the last one. Ah, but it was already a ducked question. I'm in luck.

    12. Re:What is the difference between a duck? by steve42lawson · · Score: 1
      How would you move a mountain using only a spoon?
      1. 1. Use the spoon to eat soup while I wait for erosion to kick in.
      2. 2. Easy, One scoop at a time.
      3. 3. With spoon in hand, I would take one step away from the mountain thus moving the mountain relative to me.
      4. 4. How big is the spoon, and how much time do I have?
      5. 5. No need for the spoon, the mountain is already moving.

      If you were in a box, how would you think outside it?

      I just did.

      What is the difference between a duck?

      Around 30 quacks.

      --
      Ummmm... can't think of anything...
  25. Return it to the Interviewer! by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Remember that a job interview is a 2-way transaction - you should be checking out the company and staff as carefully as they are checking you out. Put them on the ropes, ask them questions that make *them* uncomfortable, see how they handle it. "How has the company stock been doing?" Whatever the answer (Good/Poor), ask "Why?". Maintain eye contact and look for shifty glances. Keep your bullshit detector on high sensitivity. "What things does your competitor do better than your organization, and what is your plan to change them?"

    It's one thing to be new to the profession and just want to steer your way to a first job. But later, after you've worked through a couple crappy companies, you'll see that it is important to be on the offensive during the interviews. Walk in like a boss and probe their weaknesses. Any organization worth their salt should be impressed at your command of the situation. And if they really were looking for a meek wallflower that would spout the most PC response - do you really want to work there? And if the responses from the interviewer are stilted and confused, do you really want them as a co-worker?

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    Left MS Windows for Linux Mint and never looked back!

    Vote for Bernie in 2016!

    1. Re: Return it to the Interviewer! by Corbets · · Score: 1

      If my company had stock and you asked me how it'd been doing, I'd know that you hadn't bothered with even the most basic of research prior to the interview, and you'd fail. Not a smart question!

    2. Re: Return it to the Interviewer! by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Consider my response to that: "Oh, I already know how it's doing. I did my research on your company. I want to know if you know how your own company's stock's doing, and how your view of it matches up with the analysts' take on your company.". If the interviewer's willing to BS me about the company's performance and how it's handling itself, what else are they BSing me on? And if they honestly don't realize how their company's performing, I have to wonder whether there's some fundamental dysfunction that I may not want any part of.

    3. Re: Return it to the Interviewer! by dcollins · · Score: 1

      Isn't the standard CEO response to that supposed to be something like, "I don't pay attention to day-to-day fluctuations, I'm focused on the long-term big picture?".

      I mean, BS, but they have a standard canned response for that.

      --
      We know where leadership by an anti-intellectual "strongman" who scapegoats minorities and likes boisterous rallies goes
    4. Re: Return it to the Interviewer! by shentino · · Score: 1

      Sorry, but you already blew it by asking the first question.

      You do not get a second chance to make a first impression. Studies also show that people do not change their minds.

    5. Re: Return it to the Interviewer! by dwater · · Score: 1

      It's annoying to me that often people conclude that, just because I (or someone) ask a question, I don't know the answer. I mean, in an interview, *they* ask *me* lots of such questions - they usually know the answers to the questions they ask anyway.

      My wife does it all the time...why did you do *that*? I can usually think of several reasons why someone might have done what I did and I'm 100% sure she must be able to think of at least one of them, and does she *really* want to know *which one* when any of them is perfectly reasonable...?

      --
      Max.
    6. Re: Return it to the Interviewer! by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 1

      Agreed, one should research these publicly-available facts about the company. And at some point in the interview you should indicate that you do know these facts. But you may want to reserve that information and see how they answer that question. My intent on asking these questions is to see whether they have a good handle on the state of affairs of their own organization. Asking a question where you know the answer is a great way to detect BS. The interviewer does this, so should the interviewee.

      If you do your homework and see that the company stock has been bumping along at the delist price for a long while, and you notice some departments have lots of empty cubicles, and yet the interviewer tells me "Everything is fine! We have no place to go except up!, Just sign on the dotted line", I would certainly wonder about the long term prospects of a position with that company.

      --

      Left MS Windows for Linux Mint and never looked back!

      Vote for Bernie in 2016!

    7. Re: Return it to the Interviewer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why should a CEO care about daily fluctuations if nothing extraordinary (bad PR, worker strike, surprise government policy that favours the company) is happening?

    8. Re: Return it to the Interviewer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If my company had stock and you asked me how it'd been doing, I'd know that you hadn't bothered with even the most basic of research prior to the interview, and you'd fail. Not a smart question!

      So you admit that you too did not bother with even the most basic of research prior to the interview, evidenced by the fact you needed to call me in to an interview!

      Not a smart answer! See I know the answers to every question I asked. You just indicated you don't know the answers to any questions you just asked me, thus are in no position to judge my answers.

      Please stop wasting everyones time.

    9. Re: Return it to the Interviewer! by dj245 · · Score: 1

      Consider my response to that: "Oh, I already know how it's doing. I did my research on your company. I want to know if you know how your own company's stock's doing, and how your view of it matches up with the analysts' take on your company.". If the interviewer's willing to BS me about the company's performance and how it's handling itself, what else are they BSing me on? And if they honestly don't realize how their company's performing, I have to wonder whether there's some fundamental dysfunction that I may not want any part of.

      This is a terrible question. Any manager who is at all knowledgeable about their own company's stock price is a company I probably don't want to work for. It hints that they put the stock price in high regard, when for the customers and the employees it should be last on their list of things to care about.

      --
      Even those who arrange and design shrubberies are under considerable economic stress at this period in history.
    10. Re: Return it to the Interviewer! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If my company had stock and you asked me how it'd been doing, I'd know that you hadn't bothered with even the most basic of research prior to the interview, and you'd fail. Not a smart question!

      WTF? That's like the candidate saying: "if you ask me what an IP address is, then I'd know that you haven't bothered with even the most basic of research prior to the interview." The point isn't to find out what the stock price is, the point is to find out what YOUR answer is - the answer from the perspective of someone working at the company. It's also an instant reality check for how much BS you are spewing - if the company is obviously doing poorly, and you say it's doing great, then the candidate has learned that you are full of shit - valuable information. You don't appear to understand the notion that the person looking for an employee can fail the interview just as much as the candidate can, which in itself is a huge red flag.

    11. Re: Return it to the Interviewer! by Todd+Knarr · · Score: 1

      If it's a publicly-traded company, the stock price going down too badly long-term makes bad things happen because the stockholders are going to be upset and will want something done. If management isn't aware of how the stock's performing and why and don't have plans to deal with any declines, the company's not long for this world and I don't want to go to work for somewhere that's just going to be broken up and sold off. And if management and the employees don't know what the perceived weaknesses and strengths of the company are, how are they expected to exploit the perceived strengths and correct the perceived weaknesses?

      You don't obsess about it, but you'd better damned well be aware of it.

  26. Answering an old chestnut by TheloniousToady · · Score: 4, Interesting

    I once was asked the old job interview chestnut, "What is your greatest weakness?" I knew that you were supposed to lie and answer that one with a strength such as "I'm just too honest and hard-working." However, that technique always seemed too transparent to me, and I'm not a good liar. So, on the spur of the moment, I decided to answer it honestly. After that, the interviewer took a breath and said, "I appreciate your honest answer."

    I took that as a bad sign at the time, but everything else went well so I was hopeful overall. Ultimately, though, I got turned down for the job. I've always suspected that my honest answer was the reason. Maybe they were looking for a gifted liar. But the job opening was for a software engineer, not a used car salesman, so that seems an odd qualification.

    1. Re:Answering an old chestnut by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

      "I'm not a good liar" would've been a great answer to the question, as far as I'm concerned.

      I'm a bit taken aback at some of the early posts here. I've had to interview a lot of people (as part of a team) for IT positions over the past few years, and quite a few of them demonstrate absolutely no correlation between what their resume says they should know and what they actually appear to know. You can get to where you're asking them stupid questions just to see if they can get something right. A lot of people apply for positions they aren't remotely capable of filling - guys who claim extensive Linux experience yet don't know what "find" or "ls" are, for instance; or "Windows admins" who don't know how to determine a PC's IP address.

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      #DeleteChrome
    2. Re:Answering an old chestnut by TheloniousToady · · Score: 1

      Right. "I'm not a good liar" would have been much better than my actual answer, which was along the lines of "I have an irresistible compulsion to apply for positions which I am not remotely capable of filling."

      (or maybe I'm a better liar than I thought.)

    3. Re:Answering an old chestnut by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 1

      Apologies - if it wasn't clear, only the first sentence/paragraph of what I wrote was in direct response to your post.

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      #DeleteChrome
    4. Re:Answering an old chestnut by funwithBSD · · Score: 1

      I like that answer, mostly because it is true.

      I work directly with potential clients, where "telling the truth" is as disastrous as doing so on a first date. Sometimes you have to answer diplomatically, but I won't lie, because I am terrible liar.

      "What happens if X goes wrong?"

      I could be truthful, and say "We figure out how to blame each other for the failure."

      Or

      "Full and frank understanding about all of the aspects of your system before we relocate is the best way to avoid failures. Often, what you don't know about your own environment is what causes failures, so discovery and application interviews try to dig out those answers. If there is a failure, we will work together to resolve the problem." - and figure out how to blame each other.

      But the first one will kill the deal.

      --
      Never answer an anonymous letter. - Yogi Berra
    5. Re:Answering an old chestnut by YukariHirai · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I once was asked the old job interview chestnut, "What is your greatest weakness?" I knew that you were supposed to lie and answer that one with a strength such as "I'm just too honest and hard-working."

      Not necessarily. My mother has been on the asking end of that question, and one of the candidates she was interviewing gave the honest answer of being lazy. She gave this candidate the job, because it shows A) honesty, B) the ability to assess one's own flaws and therefore work around them, and C) lazy people tend to come up with good efficient solutions to problems. A and B are what she was really testing when asking that question.

      It's also worth noting that being too honest and hard-working are actually pretty serious flaws in a potential employee. Someone who's too honest might say something to a client/customer/whoever that they really shouldn't. Someone who's too hard-working might push themselves too far and fuck their health to the point where they'll leave a critical hole in the workplace when it finally catches up to them.

    6. Re:Answering an old chestnut by ledow · · Score: 2

      Had it. For a network management position.

      My answer was pretty truthful (given the constraints of my memory, not introducing personal life into work, the fact I only had a few seconds to find an answer before it felt awkward, etc.). I take my system personally. If some fool comes up and says that "the system isn't working", I take them to task on it.

      Your computer might not be working properly. Or you might not know how to do something. Or I might have STOPPED something working for you deliberately. But my systems are good, evidenced by external audits. If you criticise them, and especially if you BLAME them or try to imply I'm not doing my job properly, you damn well better be able to back it up.

      I have had enough of "I can't do my job because the system doesn't work how I would like it" kind of colleagues (who, it turns out, haven't bothered to do any prep-work, testing, research, etc. to actually allow them to do that part of their job anyway, so they are just playing for time), especially when it gets escalated to senior management under the guise of "He's not doing his job".

      Every single time, it has worked out the other way around (I don't know many professions where you have to record every single thing you do during the working day, where every request made of you and your response is recorded and auditable, and where the people in questions set up this kind of "helpdesk" system voluntarily on their first day of work if it doesn't already exist)

      So, yes, I do take it personally. Don't bad-mouth my systems without going through the proper channels and knowing what you're doing. And that's a weakness of mine. But, also, it works to your advantage in the long run. You can't be proud of a system that's falling over all the time.

    7. Re:Answering an old chestnut by TheloniousToady · · Score: 1

      That's fine, thanks. I was only funning you anyway.

      My actual answer was along the lines of "I have lots of strongly held opinions." The interviewer answered with "Well, respect is very important to us here." That's what I took as a bad sign.

      Strongly held opinions aren't all bad because they indicate a certain passion for the work. But they aren't always a great thing in a team environment because compromise often is required in order to move forward. I think the interviewer took my comment too seriously. Paradoxically, if I understood that strongly held opinions were a weakness, I also must have recognized that compromise was required - which I did.

      I've since taken on the approach of agreeing with coworkers if I possibly can, and only disagreeing on the few things that are really important, aka "picking your battles". That's been a very good thing. I now work at that same place I got turned down from but in a different job. It all worked out well for me because I have a different - and much better - boss than the one who asked that silly question.

    8. Re:Answering an old chestnut by Zarhan · · Score: 1

      Happened to me for my first real job interview. I answered "I'm really uncomfortable with lying. So if I'm working on a project where it's starting look like the product will be crap, you don't want to put me to a meeting with a customer or I'll tell him that too".

      And I got the job.

      Note that it was early 2000 and dotcom bubble was still going, so maybe they took me in despite of that answer, not because...

    9. Re:Answering an old chestnut by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

      That's actually my standard answer to that question, because in fact I am not a good liar, and it affects me professionally.

      For example, one company I worked for wanted all their employees to fake enthusiasm for the company. I was of course no good at that, because I'm not a good liar. Another wanted me to say that a job would take 1 week when it would actually take 4 weeks, and management got mad when I refused to change my estimates (it of course took 5 weeks because they tried to take shortcuts).

      And so on. Although I always liked an answer from the old 90's show Daria: "My main weakness is my inability to answer stock questions with stock answers."

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    10. Re:Answering an old chestnut by gregski · · Score: 1

      Some brilliant QI on this:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7aROzLVS58

      I think it's best to angle it more towards:
      Well I'm not so hot on *insert new fangled technology here*, but I'd love to learn more about it.

      I.e. Assume they're talking about technical capability, rather than personal issues!

      --
      I have never let my schooling interfere with my education. - Mark Twain
    11. Re:Answering an old chestnut by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      Q: What's your greatest weakness?

      A: Well, I'm horrible at interviews, especially with standard interview 'gotcha' questions, because I haven't read enough Salon articles or management fad-theory books.

      --
      Vintage computer games and RPG books available. Email me if you're interested.
    12. Re:Answering an old chestnut by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Huh? No, you're not supposed to answer with a strength. You're supposed to answer with a genuine and non-fatal weakness, then describe how you deal with it and/or try to improve your way out of it. They want to know whether you're a giver-upper or a problem solver.

    13. Re:Answering an old chestnut by JamieIanMacgregor · · Score: 1

      I had some interview training after being made redundant some years ago, the answer they suggested was 'chocolate'...lamest response ever.

    14. Re:Answering an old chestnut by Stormy+Dragon · · Score: 1

      I always answered this question honestly ("When faced with an intractible problem, I have a tendancy to fixate on solving it, sometimes beyond the point where it's a worthwhile use of resources") and since I have a pretty high hit ratio of job offers to interviews, that seems to satisfy them.

  27. Desert Island Books by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Q: "If you were trapped alone on a desert island, what three books would you want to have with you?"

    A: "Escaping Desert Islands for Dummies, How to Swim With the Sharks (Without Being Eaten Alive), and Teach Yourself Stupid Interview Questions in 24 Hours."

  28. yes & glad i resisted temptation by NewYorkCountryLawyer · · Score: 1

    I once got asked a question which I found hurtful and offensive, and felt tempted to 'blow up' the interview at that point. Fortunately, I resisted the temptation. As it turns out, the question was his way of introducing the next thing, which was telling me that he was offering me the job.

    --
    Ray Beckerman +5 Insightful
    1. Re:yes & glad i resisted temptation by NFN_NLN · · Score: 3, Funny

      I once got asked a question which I found hurtful and offensive, and felt tempted to 'blow up' the interview at that point. Fortunately, I resisted the temptation. As it turns out, the question was his way of introducing the next thing, which was telling me that he was offering me the job.

      I hear what you're saying. Regardless of your appearance they're not suppose to ask if you're a pre-op transsexual; but I'm glad you resisted blowing-up over it.

    2. Re:yes & glad i resisted temptation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I once got asked a question which I found hurtful and offensive, and felt tempted to 'blow up' the interview at that point. Fortunately, I resisted the temptation. As it turns out, the question was his way of introducing the next thing, which was telling me that he was offering me the job.

      I hear what you're saying. Regardless of your appearance they're not suppose to ask if you're a pre-op transsexual; but I'm glad you resisted blowing-up over it.

      How'd you guess?

    3. Re:yes & glad i resisted temptation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yep. Never blow up - blow down. But if you fuck, that should be up.

  29. GUI obsession by Tablizer · · Score: 2

    Once when it looked pretty much gone, and the interviewer repeatedly kept implying OOP was about GUI's, I corrected him, which brought the interview to a quick(er) end. Probably was bad form, but it felt cathartic. Sometimes you don't want to work for complete idiots, even though it was a tough market at the time.

    1. Re:GUI obsession by phantomfive · · Score: 1

      I had a coworker who always wore ugly shorts and a ratty t-shirt and uncombed hair to interviews. He figured that any place that got offended by that, he didn't want to work there anyway. It was part of his weeding process.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    2. Re:GUI obsession by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I did a programming interview for a game company. One of the questions had an RBBA->ARGB conversion with some 'errors' in it and they asked me to find them. After about two minutes I had 18 things I had found wrong. When I explained the errors to them they looked kind of shocked Their list was six. Noobs.

    3. Re:GUI obsession by R3d+M3rcury · · Score: 1

      I have an opposite version: I always dress nicely for interviews--I figure it's a sign of respect. I offended a few people that I interviewed with because I was dressed nicely--like I was trying to cover up for my lack of skill or something.

      I still dress nicely, though I've toned it down over the years.

    4. Re:GUI obsession by phantomfive · · Score: 2

      lol I hear you. It's hard to get respect as a programmer if you wear a suit, no one trusts you.

      One year I wore a suit to work on Halloween.

      --
      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    5. Re:GUI obsession by Copid · · Score: 1

      I try to dress nicely as well for the same reason. Anybody who thinks, "Well that guy's dumb. He thinks we should all wear ties, or he wants us to think he wears a tie every day!" misses the point. If the Queen of England came to visit and the President hosted a nice banquet in honor of the visit, she'd correctly assume it was a sign of respect for the importance of her visit. Only an idiot would say, "Look at the stupid Americans. They want us to think they're so fancy that they eat a grand banquet for dinner every night!"

      --
      An interesting anagram of "BANACH TARSKI" is "BANACH TARSKI BANACH TARSKI"
  30. Ghostbusters FTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Best. Interview question. EVER.

    "Do you believe in UFOs, astral projections, mental telepathy, ESP, clairvoyance, spirit photography, telekinetic movement, full trance mediums, the Loch Ness monster and the theory of Atlantis?"

    1. Re:Ghostbusters FTW by Irate+Engineer · · Score: 1

      God, somebody please mod this one up +5; they get it!

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      Left MS Windows for Linux Mint and never looked back!

      Vote for Bernie in 2016!

    2. Re:Ghostbusters FTW by lgw · · Score: 3, Funny

      If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say.

      --
      Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
    3. Re:Ghostbusters FTW by mbstone · · Score: 3

      Sure. Do you believe in property, propriety, plurality, surety, security, and not hurt the state? Say "What"

    4. Re:Ghostbusters FTW by fsagx · · Score: 1

      Q: Have you ever been convicted of a felony?
      A: Convicted? ...No.

      Q: Are either of you homosexuals?
      A: ...no...but we are willing to learn.

    5. Re:Ghostbusters FTW by funwithBSD · · Score: 3, Funny

      Say what again, motherfucker.

      --
      Never answer an anonymous letter. - Yogi Berra
    6. Re:Ghostbusters FTW by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 1

      I suppose I could. How much does this position pay?

    7. Re:Ghostbusters FTW by Redmancometh · · Score: 1

      I actually think this is a good question! At the very least I would love to be asked this.
      You could glean a lot of genuinely important information from that answer.

    8. Re:Ghostbusters FTW by drkim · · Score: 1

      Best. Interview question. EVER.

      "Do you believe in UFOs, astral projections, mental telepathy, ESP, clairvoyance, spirit photography, telekinetic movement, full trance mediums, the Loch Ness monster and the theory of Atlantis?"

      Correct answer:

      "and? No, not 'and'."

    9. Re:Ghostbusters FTW by Ashe+Tyrael · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say."

      Depressingly true in the current climate too.

      --
      "How fine you look when dressed in rage."
    10. Re:Ghostbusters FTW by TangoMargarine · · Score: 2

      Do they speak English in What?

      --
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    11. Re:Ghostbusters FTW by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      English motherfucker, do you speak it!

    12. Re:Ghostbusters FTW by ItsJustAPseudonym · · Score: 1

      "Man, this job is NOT worth 11.5 a year!"

  31. Blow up fail by cold+fjord · · Score: 0

    Former dessert company executive faked his death and comes back under assumed identity to lead a new life. He is willing to start at the bottom.

    Reggie Perrin's job Interview

    --
    much of left-wing thought is a kind of playing with fire by people who don't even know that fire is hot - George Orwell
  32. WTF #28 by Tablizer · · Score: 5, Funny

    I once was given a "security" questionnaire that asked, "Have you ever had sex with animals or office equipment?"

    I was very tempted to write in, "Do hair-dryers count?".

    1. Re:WTF #28 by NFN_NLN · · Score: 2

      I once was given a "security" questionnaire that asked, "Have you ever had sex with animals or office equipment?"

      I was very tempted to write in, "Do hair-dryers count?".

      A: It was dead at the time so it doesn't count... does it?
      Q: The animal was dead or the equipment was dead?
      A: Umm... I plead the 5th!

    2. Re:WTF #28 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How about, "Not at the same time"?

    3. Re:WTF #28 by PPH · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Don't you mean "on" instead of "or"?

      --
      Have gnu, will travel.
    4. Re:WTF #28 by lgw · · Score: 2

      "The sheep is a liar! Um, I mean no."

      --
      Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
    5. Re:WTF #28 by funwithBSD · · Score: 1

      I promise not to touch your Swingline improperly.

      --
      Never answer an anonymous letter. - Yogi Berra
    6. Re:WTF #28 by drkim · · Score: 1

      I once was given a "security" questionnaire that asked, "Have you ever had sex with animals or office equipment?"

      Correct answer:
      "It doesn't count if it only happened in prison, right?"

    7. Re:WTF #28 by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 1

      "Sigh. You fuck one goat..."

      --
      Science is all about firing a drunk pig out of a cannon just to see what happens.
    8. Re:WTF #28 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      A: "What happens on tour, stays on tour"

    9. Re:WTF #28 by fallen1 · · Score: 1

      No. I wasn't wearing my kilt that day and sheep understand the sound of a zipper being lowered.

      --

      Dream as if you'll live forever.
      Live as if you'll die tomorrow.
      ~Anonymous~

    10. Re:WTF #28 by Anomalyst · · Score: 1

      Sorry no mod points, excellent John Ringo Paladin series quote.

      --
      There is no right to feel safe thru security vaudeville at the expense of everyone's freedom, privacy and tax money.
  33. Never Burn Bridges by betterprimate · · Score: 1

    You can be selective with who you work with, but don't burn bridges. If the interviewer is not capable of accessing the position or your capabilities, then the politely and assertively ask to speaking with someone who can.

    1. Re:Never Burn Bridges by betterprimate · · Score: 1

      assessing*

  34. Interviewers forget... by Moof123 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Interviewers all too often forget that this is a two-way process. I am evaluating them as much as they are evaluating me. In a recent interview a manager (not the hiring manager) really started to put the screws to me about my job history, really harping on how long I'd been at certain places that are just plain normal these days. Engineering has become somewhat nomadic, moving on as contracts dry up, or after the place gets bought up to be run like a puppy mill.

    My takeaway was they were out of touch the industry they were looking to break into, and further probing by me bore this out. At that point I was still smart enough not to "blow up" the interview, as as others have noted, niche industries are alarmingly small and interbred. You never know who you will run across again down the road.

  35. 2 Questions... blah! by bucktug · · Score: 1

    During an interview the HR guy asked me 2 questions that had the rest of the folks at the table offer me the job...
    Q1: What 2 words best describe you?
    A1: I would have to go with "Springer Guest"... Wait... the judge said "Repeat Offender"

    Q2: What is your greatest weakness?
    A2: I have a great distain for trick questions. I know you only want me to say something positive about myself because the negative thing about me is somehow a positive. But I am pretty grumbly hateful about it instead of humbly grateful.

    --
    I had a flame... but she had a fire.
  36. Re:12) How does the Internet work? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

    Interwebs flow through Intertubes, until the little termite cops redirect some traffic to your laptop. Termite traffic cops hang out in Interpoles, those tall wooden poles with wires all over them.

  37. Re:"well, pretty sure that wraps this interview up by lgw · · Score: 2

    I commend your professionalism. I do believe if asked why I would take a given job given I "eat gold and shit diamonds", I couldn't stop myself from answering "constipation".

    --
    Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
  38. #10 square feet of pizza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    var pizzaRadius = 1; // one foot
    var pizzaPi = Math.PI; // 3.14...
    var pizzaArea = pizzaPi * pizzaRadius * pizzaRadius; // pi * r^2, or 3.14 sq.

    well. I know that i'm not gonna hire you.

    1. Re:#10 square feet of pizza by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      but pizza pi R ! ^2, pizza pi rounded(R)!

    2. Re:#10 square feet of pizza by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, like what about square and rectangular pizzas? Or french bread pizzas? It's not like they're manhole covers and need to be round.

    3. Re:#10 square feet of pizza by PPH · · Score: 1

      cornBread R^2

      --
      Have gnu, will travel.
    4. Re:#10 square feet of pizza by iggymanz · · Score: 1

      that sounds like Sicilian New Yorker talk! *BLAM* *BLAM* !

  39. Trick questions and trivia questions are dishonest by PhantomHarlock · · Score: 1

    The only thing you learn about an interviewee by asking them things like the tennis ball or manhole cover questions is whether or not they are a good candidate for a game show.

    Obscure trivia is obscure trivia. It is meaningless.

    Attempting to provoke an emotional response via trick questions or questions designed to insult or get the interviewee to take the bait and say something offensive is also dishonest, unless you are administering a voigt-kompf test.

    Fortunately I have only ever had to interview for a job during one time in my life, and it was an employee's market so it was easy.

    The one oddball question I had was actually a cool one. "Which Star Wars film is the best one" This was before the new ones came out. Any die hard old school star wars fan will typically agree that Empire Strikes Back is the best one, and I answered correctly. I was given a job offer but turned it down and took a job with another company that I really wanted to work for.

    The Star Wars question was actually job related, it was a visual effects company and they wanted people that were also fans and had an appreciation of prior art.

    Most of my work has come from networking, or running my own businesses. I can't imagine anything more soul sucking than having to submit hundreds of resumes and sit through dozens of interviews.

  40. Why bother? by plopez · · Score: 2

    If you find yourself in this question just say something along the lines: "This interview is over. I am only interested in companies that have a passion for quality and making a difference as opposed to playing pointless games."

    --
    putting the 'B' in LGBTQ+
  41. Re:Trick questions and trivia questions are dishon by oneiros27 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I haven't had to interview too many people at my current job (boo, federal budget cuts), but when I did, on 80% or so of people, I asked the question:

    "Star Wars or Star Trek?"

    The thing is, I didn't really care which one you picked, so long as you could explain why. And if you picked something else (Firefly, Battlestar Glactica, Dr. Who, Red Dwarf, etc.) and could give a passionate answer, that's even better. The only wrong answer is the 'I'm not going to pick one or the other because I don't want to offend anyone' unless you could really impress me some creativity in the process.

    And for anyone who complains that there might be people who haven't seen any of 'em (I still know some people who are almost 30 and qualify) ... I work at a NASA center ... if you haven't seen any of the TV shows I've listed, there's a *really* high probability that you wouldn't fit in.

    --
    Build it, and they will come^Hplain.
  42. You're right, but not the reason why. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Younger applicants (or simply those with less relevant employment history) are often asked questions that are abstract or seemingly unrelated to the position.

    The reason for this, if the interviewers aren't trendy or trivial idiots, is to ascertain how the applicant thinks, approaches problem solving, or might work in a group setting. It's the reaction to the question and the thought process they display coming up with and defending an answer that you have to pay close attention to.

    With little employment history, 80% or more of what they end up working with day to day will be learned or refined on the job. So it's important to understand how they will deal with this shift from another organization or academic setting into your group with your unique workload.

  43. Crazytown by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They're the ones so fucking hateful that they cut the 99 weeks of unemployment.

    99 weeks of unemployment, also known as three weeks shy of two years.

    You may be somehow unable to find a job in two years, but it has nothing to do with jobs not being available. It merely means that you have absolutely no skills to offer an employer, you have the wrong skills, you are not as skilled as you think you are, or you are unwilling to lower your standards. Decent engineers do have trouble finding work. Perhaps you were a liberal arts major looking to use that Art History degree for something other than working in a museum, but many people actually got worthwhile degrees, and that is completely your own fault.

    I stopped working to pass an interview after the Director level-interviewer was bragging about looking back 30 years at people's grades when hiring software engineers; if they ever received a C or below or did not graduate, then they would not get hired. Two things: I was not even 30 years old, and my grades passed the bar, but that is ridiculous. Good thing they would the miss the likes of Bill Gates and John Carmack.

    Also--and I hate to point this out to you--Democrats hold the Senate and the Presidency. Anything passed has their seal of approval on it more than the Republicans by that fact. In fact, the Democrats held all of Congress (that includes the House and Senate, since I expect you are unaware of that) from 2008 to 2010. Since then, they have only not held the House. Certainly you cannot believe that things like ObamaCare were lead by those pesky GOP-ers.

    For reference, I am white, but I am not connected; I imagine that I am by default a racist according to you. And, lastly, I am no fan of the GOP (in fact, I particularly dislike the GOP), but you need to get real.

  44. It's a 2 way street. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Remember it's a 2 way thing, you don't want to dick the other guy as much as he doesn't & shouldn't want to dick you over.

  45. The size of a pizza by MtHuurne · · Score: 1

    Are US pizzas actually 1 foot in radius or did the person who answered that mix up radius and diameter?

    1. Re:The size of a pizza by foobar+bazbot · · Score: 1

      I would say a typical US pizza is 14-20" diameter. Neither 12" nor 24" is very common.

  46. Turn them against each other by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Several years ago I was looking for a tech writing job. Found a local company advertising for a lead writer to (among other things) redo their user manuals for networking gear. I sent them my resume, the HR guy called, we spent an hour on the phone and it sounded like we had a perfect match. He asked me to download one of their user manuals (about 100 pages) from their web site and critique it and bring it to an interview. I grabbed the doc, spent about three hours reading and annotating it and writing up a recommendation (and it needed a hell of a lot of work).

    I get to the interview a few days later and the head of engineering is in charge, and the HR guy is there. Engineering guy obviously thinks there's no need for anyone, ever to employ a technical writer, engineers can do everything (which no doubt explains the train wreck I saw in the manual I reviewed), and was very rude. I stayed upbeat and polite, even though it was clear I had zero chance to get a job that he didn't think should exist, until he pointed to the marked up document I'd brought along and said, "I don't know why we would care about what you thought of our current work." I pointed to the HR guy and said, "I did this at his request. Who's doing the hiring here?" They looked at each other, and it was clear I had just poured salt into a fresh wound.

    The interview ended shortly thereafter, and when the HR guy walked me to the door he apologized for what had happened. I told him to keep my resume on file in case they figured out how badly they needed professional help. Never heard from them, and their manuals are still a train wreck.

    1. Re:Turn them against each other by shentino · · Score: 3, Insightful

      At least they didn't swipe your work for themselves and stiff you on consulting fees.

  47. Re:Trick questions and trivia questions are dishon by lgw · · Score: 2

    The point of the tennis ball question (or overly-cliched manhole cover question) is not to see if the candidate already knows the answer, but to assess how he deal with a problem he hasn't thought about before. Can you reason from what little you know, and make some sense of a strange problem. Microsoft's famous (and now long retired) "how many gas stations are there in Seattle" question is the same way. Of course you don'know, of course you normally google stuff like this, and of course you won't get a precise answer. None of that is the point - the point is: can you reason about a problem from minimal data?

    But IMO those are stupid questions for a programmer, as you can get the same sort of assessment while getting the candidate to write code on the board.

    --
    Socialism: a lie told by totalitarians and believed by fools.
  48. Tell me a story by prowler1 · · Score: 1

    I had a job interview where I was asked to tell a story. I asked for confirmation on what kind of story they were after and was told to start right at the beginning of my life, so I told them in the beginning my parents had sex at which point I was conceived then born, then grew up and was now attending this job interview.

    I actually got the job.

  49. Not blown off ... by PPH · · Score: 2

    ... but I've told the interviewer that I didn't think I'd be a good fit for a job due to their misperception of the problem that needed solving.

    A local electric utility wanted me to put an engineering document configuration control system in place. They thought too many engineers were circumventing their manual processes out of laziness/obstinacy. It turns out that their construction crews hated management and engineering with a vengeance and would just build stuff the way they wanted. Engineering was struggling to produce as-built drawings of the work, which barely resembled the design documentation.

    I told them that what they had was a culture problem within the organization that needed to be fixed first. And unless they were planning on offering me the utility superintendent's position, there wasn't much I could really do. Not 'blown off'. I told them what I thought they needed to do.

    One of the staff I spoke to during the process filled me in on the organizational problems. He told me that all of the utilities problems could be fixed with one clip in a .45. I decided not to repeat that little nugget of wisdom to the hiring committee.

    --
    Have gnu, will travel.
  50. staffing agencies / recruiters that ask very basic by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    staffing agencies / recruiters that ask very basic question.

    As one that can have you done X and X is a very generic part of IT that just about any thing can give you the skill.

    Have you worked with Y and Y is a setup that is impossible / a very odd way doing stuff all most if that job requirement some how got miss written.

    and so on

  51. Now Now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The CEO's of these companies are very smart people. Be fair. Perhaps they would be willing purchase some of the quantum computers I'm selling. They could be used for search optomisation or advertising or some other some such.

    1. Re:Now Now by ub3r+n3u7r4l1st · · Score: 1

      Just sell them the brooklyn bridge. far more easier.

  52. a new why to get an H1B in by Joe_Dragon · · Score: 1

    ask a question where only they are told how to answer the right way.

  53. Least fitting interview question ever asked by phoenix182 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    My personal fave:

    After the spending the first gulf war in the military and then working a decade in extremely active security companies (we're talking 200+ combats a year and solo commercial and industrial armed alarm responses) I was ready to break into IT. On my first interview (for @Home phone network support) the hiring panel asked me "how I would handle the extraordinary stress of having to deal with people who were so very angry with me".

    I started laughing like a lunatic, and couldn't stop until the tears were rolling down my cheeks. I realized they were horrified at my behavior and had been serious. I asked if they'd even read my resume and cover letter, and when they hemmed and hawed I explained further.

    It went something like - "Look, 6 months out of boot camp I spent a night in ops watch at a flag command as the 4th link in the chain of nuclear response...that means that had anything happened I would have been one of the first people to get the ball rolling towards global nuclear armageddon. In security I was called upon to rush alone into a warehouse in the middle of the night with hundreds of thousands of dollars of merchandise all around me and find out if it was on fire, or if a half dozen armed criminals were robbing the place. I had to put myself (unarmed and unarmored) into melees with a pack of armed gangbangers out for revenge over a recent shooting. I had to restrain psychotic killers who were on PCP before they could murder the 19yr old nurse on duty. Look I realize you take your job seriously, but quite honestly none of you have the slightest idea of what stress or anger are. Next question please."

    I figured that was gonna wash me out in a heartbeat, but surprisingly I got the job.

    1. Re:Least fitting interview question ever asked by phoenix182 · · Score: 1

      Crap...edited it three times and still missed the extra 'the' in the first sentence. *sigh* oh well.

    2. Re:Least fitting interview question ever asked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nice one!

      I figured that was gonna wash me out in a heartbeat, but surprisingly I got the job.

      I'm less surprised they offered than I am that you took accepted. They were unprepared for the interview and lacked perspective. Were you desperate for work? How long did you stay with them?

    3. Re:Least fitting interview question ever asked by phoenix182 · · Score: 1

      Just wanted out of security. Tired of getting poop thrown at me for minimum wage and no bennies. Worked there like 6-9 months, until the 4th or 5th time they lost or royally screwed up my paycheck.

    4. Re:Least fitting interview question ever asked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No worries, I didn't notice it until I saw your follow up post. BTW, I proofread using "text to speech"; it has made a big difference.

    5. Re:Least fitting interview question ever asked by phoenix182 · · Score: 1

      Wouldn't work for me, I only post from system not setup for voice...which is ok, because i've never been comfortable with voice recognition stuff. I still demand a smartphone with a fully physical keyboard in fact. 8-)

    6. Re:Least fitting interview question ever asked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Cool story bro.

    7. Re:Least fitting interview question ever asked by foobar+bazbot · · Score: 1

      You may be confusing "speech to text" with "text to speech"...

    8. Re:Least fitting interview question ever asked by phoenix182 · · Score: 1

      OMG! Sucks really dyslexia. My bad. LOL.

    9. Re:Least fitting interview question ever asked by dwater · · Score: 1

      only a '1' for that??

      mod parent up...sigh

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      Max.
    10. Re:Least fitting interview question ever asked by TheDarkMaster · · Score: 1

      You made me spill coffee on the whole table with this, thanks :-D

      --
      Religion: The greatest weapon of mass destruction of all time
    11. Re:Least fitting interview question ever asked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I figured that was gonna wash me out in a heartbeat, but surprisingly I got the job.

      Contrary to what a lot of military people think... just because most civilians don't know what it's like to actually put their lives on the line for their duties doesn't mean we're incapable of recognizing when we're out-classed by someone who does.

    12. Re:Least fitting interview question ever asked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Fired!

    13. Re:Least fitting interview question ever asked by tommeke100 · · Score: 1

      They just hired you for the stories during lunch break ;-)

    14. Re:Least fitting interview question ever asked by Cederic · · Score: 1

      To which the obvious follow-up question would be how you'd handle angry customers without using physical dominance, bullying or aggression.

      It is a different skillset, and the lack of phsyical options may actually increase your stress levels.

    15. Re:Least fitting interview question ever asked by phoenix182 · · Score: 1

      True, but when you can't be physically harmed, after you're used to having to be on edge for that, it's quite a relief. I never once had the slightest fear or aggression with customers. Now management...THAT was a different issue. But when you're safe you can be calm and deal rationally...a luxury sorely missed on the streets. Not to mention, dealing with internet after dealing with literal life and death...paralyzation, mortal illness, dementia and loss of self, emergency and trauma...you realize there's simply nothing going on that really matters in the grand scheme of things, which let's you stay fairly happy with life.

    16. Re: Least fitting interview question ever asked by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you tried speech to text?

  54. I would ask these questions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just to see how the interviewer reacts to stupid questions. In business you are surrounded by stupidity and incompetence. A good employee can approach these situations with grace.

    1. Re:I would ask these questions... by ledow · · Score: 1

      And what you'll get is someone who's good at avoiding the obvious and wastes lots of time dealing with idiots.

      What you judges INTERVIEWS for determines what qualities your employees will have to have escaped through that filter.

      Thus these interviews where they ask inane question that they expect you to make stuff up? You'll end up hiring people good at making stuff up to inane questions. If that's the job, fine. I doubt it is, though.

  55. ebay interview by swframe · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I walked out of an interview at ebay. In the middle of the interview, they told me the position had been filled but they wanted me to talk to one more person to complete the process. I didn't know until after that it was a "stress interview". The interviewer was clearly enjoying watching me struggle. The first question the interviewer asked was which java packages I felt comfortable using. After I told him, he said "those are the ones I won't ask you about". The best question from that interview: "If you were given a technical design document how would you tell if it is good without reading it?" Later, I ended the interview when he told me I couldn't use the whiteboard to make it easier for me to show him the answer.

    1. Re:ebay interview by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sounds like an interview to go while stoned.

    2. Re:ebay interview by ruir · · Score: 1

      Dickheads. You are very patient.

    3. Re:ebay interview by PrimaryConsult · · Score: 1

      Later, I ended the interview when he told me I couldn't use the whiteboard to make it easier for me to show him the answer.

      I hope it was with something like "I don't feel I'd fit in with a company that doesn't believe in using the most efficient tools for the task at hand".

      I'd never heard of a stress interview, but now I know of its existence I'll try and have fun with it should I find myself in that position...

  56. this was the best: by Ralph+Spoilsport · · Score: 4, Funny
    My roommate back in the early 90s went on a job interview in the late 80s. He said he walked into the place, took one wiff and said "No. Fucking. Way." But, he had budgeted the time, so he figured, "Why not?" So he goes to the interview and he's interviewed by some twit (we'll call him "Jimmy") right out of university who has no idea what he's doing. He's reading questions off a card. At that point, my friend, Mr.Max, had had enough and said to himself, "fuck this shit."

    So, the conversation went like this:

    Jimmy: so, Mr Max, um, what was the worst job you ever had? M: Pulling the gold teeth out of the mouths of people who had just been shot. JImmy (appalled, but compelled to follow form): And, uuuuh, why did you leave that job? M: No career advancement - what was I supposed to do, graduate to actually shooting people? I don't think so. That requires skill. Jimmy: OK... well let's change subject to more psychological questions. What is your favourite colour? M: Clear. Jimmy: Clear's not a colour. M: I have a crayon that says it's clear. Crayons have colours. If I had said teal, or Forest Green what that have been OK? They have crayons for those too, ya know. Jimmy: Right. Well one more question... What do you like best about yourself? M: (leaning in closely to Jimmy and in a low voice): I'm a good friend.... Jimmy: Well, thank you very much and we'll call you if we feel there is a position for you here. M: Right. Have a nice day! Jimmy: good bye... (throws resume in trash...)

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    Shoes for Industry. Shoes for the Dead.
    1. Re:this was the best: by UltraBadger · · Score: 0

      And thus Mr Max wasted everyone's time, including ours.

    2. Re:this was the best: by bornagainpenguin · · Score: 1

      My roommate back in the early 90s went on a job interview in the late 80s.

      Your roomate has a time machine? Why was\is s\he looking for work? Does s\he simply lack imagination?

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      Have a Virgin Mobile USA smartphone? Give VMRoms.com a try!
    3. Re:this was the best: by sapped · · Score: 1

      My roommate back in the early 90s went on a job interview in the late 80s.

      Your roomate has a time machine?

      No time machine needed. They were roommates in the 90's. During this time his roommate spoke about an interview that occurred in the 80s.

    4. Re:this was the best: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How did your roommate go to a job interview in the late 80s when you were both in the early 90s?

  57. My favorite one... by hackus · · Score: 4, Funny

    Interviewer: Describe your dream job.

    Me: I will have to sleep it, I will be right back.

    (Put the phone down and let them eat crickets until the line disconnected.)

    Best nap I ever had too.

    -Hack

    PS: Oh, as for the Dream. I forgot to write it down when I woke up. Go figure.

    --
    Got Geometrodynamics? Awe, too hard to figure out? Too bad.
    1. Re:My favorite one... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'm so in love with my own name, I like to copy it into the body of my post.

      -Hack

      PS: I'll never figure out that I'm the only one here who does this. I'm too in love with my own behavior, that I am blind to all others.

  58. Oddities by agrisea · · Score: 1

    A couple of years ago, I sat in on a few interviews for a non-profit and was stunned on the type of questions asked. It was very odd to hear questions about things not even remotely related to the actual job. I was under the impression you interviewed people interested in a certain job to see if they knew what they were doing, at least vocally. The person they eventually hired "worked smarter, not harder" so I guess it met their expectations because nothing got done.

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    Agrisea Tsunami - Epyc Servers... https://agrisea.net/products
  59. Actual interview question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    What is your greatest weakness?

    Peppermints.

    Peppermints?

    Yeah, I can't leave 'em alone. You don't want to get between me and the peppermints. Oh hey! [Grabs mint from interviewer's candy bowl]

  60. My best answer, was a question by Crudely_Indecent · · Score: 1, Offtopic

    When interviewing for a tech support manager position with a company in San Diego - I went through a whole slew of interviews on the same afternoon. director of sales, director of product development, director of software engineering and finally the director of customer service.

    That last interview had to be the best interview of my life. Not because I had good answers for all of the questions (I did). Not because I was a great fit for the position (I was). And not because I really wanted the job (I really did). It was the best interview of my life because I sat and had a long conversation with what I believe to be the most beautiful woman I've ever seen. Mmm, Mmm Anna.

    At the end of the interview, she asked "Do you have any questions for me". I had only one. "Would you like to have dinner with me tonight?"

    Sadly, Anna said she was married.

    That afternoon, I was hired. On my first day, I met Christina (Anna's assistant) the second most beautiful woman I've ever seen. Mmm, Mmm Christina. I spent the next 2 years flying around the country with Anna and Christina going to trade shows (to set up the equipment), and to customer sites to assess their needs.

    I loved that job. The scenery was great.

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    "Lame" - Galaxar
    1. Re:My best answer, was a question by Crudely_Indecent · · Score: 1

      Offtopic?

      I said something that should have taken me out of the running for that position - asking my interviewer out on a date! Who else here has done that?

      Granted, I've only ever been interviewed by an uber-hottie once... so I suppose that kind of opportunity doesn't happen every day.

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      "Lame" - Galaxar
  61. What kind of tree? by sgrover · · Score: 2

    Back when location services were just ramping up, I was interviewed for a position on a team building such services. By the WHOLE 15 person team (warning #1). After a few rapid fire questions they hit me out of the blue with "What kind of tree would you be, if you could be a tree?". My response was "Who'd the fuck want to be a TREE!!??!!" Needless to say I didn't get the job. Been thankful ever since - that company was not there less than a year later.

  62. Stupid questions may be a deliberate part ... by Ihlosi · · Score: 4, Insightful

    ... of the interview; e.g. to test the candidates reaction to stupid questions. Depending on the job, he might have to face those on a regular basis and certain response patterns may not be considered adequate.

    1. Re:Stupid questions may be a deliberate part ... by ruir · · Score: 1

      I dont doubt they are valuable. They are there to show me I dont want to work with them, otherwise I might have to deal with dimwits on a regular basis, and I might not consider it adequate.

  63. BBC by ledow · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I was interviewed for a position at the BBC, back in the early days of digital TV, working on their digital "teletext" service (i.e. that pseudo-HTML stuff they shove down the DVB channels).

    Application went fine, was asked to interview (from thousands of candidates). Went in, did some tests (technical, editorial, etc.). Seemed to all be going well. Went to interview where the panel were half-technical, half-management.

    Was all going alright right up until the last question. It was so wrapped up in management-ese that honestly, even as a vaguely intelligent person, I could not understand what it meant (let alone provide an answer). It was literally that impenetrable, and not even something that made any sense whatsoever. I couldn't even begin to waffle some management-ese in reply, it was that bad.

    So I told them. "I don't understand, sorry". They repeated it, word-for-word. "No, no, I heard. I don't understand what you're asking." This went on for several minutes. The management in the room looked quite annoyed. Meanwhile, the techies in the room were making a show of writing a large "tick" (check) symbol on my application in front of them and grinning inanely.

    Sadly, I think the management overruled or outnumbered them, and I wasn't offered (though I was told that I still came quite close).

    To this day, I still can't even remember what the question was (it was just random words strung together than didn't even seem to ask a question), let alone work out what kind of answer they wanted. And, surely, if someone doesn't understand something, what you want them to do is stop you and say "Sorry, no, I don't understand", not plough on regardless making up some rubbish?

    Needless to say, I actually felt quite sympathetic for the people who DO have to work under that person all the time.

    1. Re:BBC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I believe this was what is known (and hilariously lampooned in Private Eye) as 'BirtSpeak' (after the old Director General John Birt).

    2. Re:BBC by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Was this the question?
          Well, Guy Kewney is editor of the technology website Newswireless. Hello, good morning to you.

  64. Obvious by The+Cat · · Score: 2

    Q: "Where do you see yourself in five years?"

    A: "Firing you."

  65. Why do you want this job? by rebelwarlock · · Score: 3, Funny

    I don't, but no one will pay me for my real passion, which is being completely lazy and worthless, and I need money to survive.

  66. Re:"well, pretty sure that wraps this interview up by 91degrees · · Score: 1

    The thing is, I think someone so forthright as to ask that question would probably appreciate that answer.

  67. Re:12) How does the Internet work? by serviscope_minor · · Score: 1

    Thing is, given that the interviewer was Akami, that's a pretty reasonable question.

    It's not vague, up-in-the-air bulshit like some of the questions. Neither does it need rampant speculation and guesswork. It is a real thing with a real answer, being asked by an employer who provides a non-trivial amount of internet infrastructure.

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  68. Origami Cootie Catcher by im_thatoneguy · · Score: 2

    "Can you instruct someone how to make an origami 'cootie catcher' with just words?" -- LivingSocial, Consumer Advocate interview.

    I could honestly give a snarky answer to this. I had to do this 2 months ago at work for a project. My approach was:

    To the office: "Does anyone here know how to make an Origami Fortune Teller?"
    Intern: "I do."
    Me: "Great. Please make me one approximately 10" wide."

    It was closer to 8" but I fell like my instructions were pretty well followed.

  69. Drake's equation by Frankie70 · · Score: 1

    Drake's equation is garbage - just some alphanumeric soup.

  70. Re:Trick questions and trivia questions are dishon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Obscure trivia is obscure trivia. It is meaningless.

    If you think the tennis ball question or manhole cover are about trivia, then you're exactly the kind of person they work well on. Spoiler- it's not actually about getting the right answer, it's about coming up with a good answer that you can justify. The purpose is not to test your knowledge of City Sewage, it's to test you and how you react. The specifics of your answer rarely matter.

  71. "How does the internet work?" - Akamai Director by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Anyone applying for a directors position at Akamai had better know the answer to this. Anyone who thinks it is a silly question has no business either working at Akamai or being an Information Week journalist. I have actually been asked this question in an interview and aced the question, it is a serious question and quite far reaching in scope. Almost anyone can answer it to the extent or limit of their knowledge and so it is a very illuminating question. Saying "I don't know" is not the worst answer.

  72. Cultural Fit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I work at a startup with between 10-20 employees. When we interview someone, it's really a battery of cultural fit rather than technical prowess. The idea is that if someone's inexperienced, they can gain experience, and any question that can be correctly answered is also subject to pre-interview research and mid-interview anxiety.

    What does this mean? If they walk into an interview, they get *only* questions that are similar to the ones in the article. The candidate is heavily researched and "background-checked" before they get invited in. The interview usually starts with a question that's specifically tailored towards them and is primed to get a detailed response. Then, they're transitioned through a small standard set of interview questions, but there's always custom-tailored followup to see how they respond to certain weird situations. A few hints are given, and it becomes a "Who Wants to Be a Millionaire"-type lifeline thing. In-between interview segments, we quietly discuss how it's going and then modify the custom-tailored questions as we go. The actual answers aren't important; the approaches and responses are considered instead. For the type of questions mentioned in the article, the responses better be snarky; otherwise, they've just failed the cultural test.

    If some candidate just isn't willing to play this game, chances are, s/he just simply isn't a cultural fit. That's OK: the interview ends and both sides avoid wasting each others' time. Will this alienate a lot of talented people? Sure. Are we OK with that? Well, if you get some talented people to join a company and they just manage to fight an incite an internal civil war, that's going to cause some serious damage.

    There's a very distinct culture at my startup, and it's not for everyone. There's a lot of talent out there, but cultural fit is much harder and much more subjective.

    As for what'd happen if the article writer came in for an interview at my company? There'd probably be several hints that indicate that snarky responses are expected, and depending on whether or not the he's able and willing to play along will decide whether or not he's a good fit.

    Posting anonymously because this is a detailed post about hiring procedures.

    1. Re:Cultural Fit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wow, now I know who's running pricks.com!

  73. Re:Trick questions and trivia questions are dishon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Then why not just be direct and ask, "how do you react when people waste your time?"

  74. Re:12) How does the Internet work? by danknight48 · · Score: 1

    Thing is, given that the interviewer was Akami, that's a pretty reasonable question.

    Appears my answer regarding the clouds is still reasonable.

    (Google search)
    Akamai: Cloud Services, Enterprise, Mobile, Security Solutions
    uk.akamai.com/
    As the leading cloud platform for media and content delivery, application performance, and Web security, we enable any experience on any device.

  75. My replies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1) "If you could throw a parade of any caliber through the Zappos office, what type of parade would it be?" -- The Zappos Family, Customer Loyalty Team Member interview.
    Zombie Strippers

    2) "How lucky are you and why?" -- Airbnb, Content Manager interview.
    Lucky enough to get a content manager interview with content like this.

    3) "If you were a pizza delivery man, how would you benefit from scissors?" -- Apple, Specialist interview.
    I'd get criminal level tips.

    4) "Are you more of a hunter or a gatherer?" -- Dell, Account Manager interview.
    Gatherer?
    You sure you're not the NSA

    5) "If you were on an island and could only bring three things, what would you bring?" -- Yahoo, Search Quality Analyst interview.
    Vicodin, Solar powered satellite internet PC, and the 1989 Denver Broncos

    6) "Why is a tennis ball fuzzy?" -- Xerox, Client Manager interview.
    Because

    7) "What is your least favorite thing about humanity?" -- ZocDoc, Operations Associate interview.
    People

    8) "How would you use Yelp to find the number of businesses in the U.S.?" -- Factual, Software Engineer interview.
    By getting a court order to sue them.

    9) "How honest are you?" -- Allied Telesis, Executive Assistant interview.
    I like money.

    10) "How many square feet of pizza are eaten in the U.S. each year?" -- Goldman Sachs, Programmer Analyst interview.
    42

    11) "Can you instruct someone how to make an origami 'cootie catcher' with just words?" -- LivingSocial, Consumer Advocate interview.
    http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Cootie-Catcher-%28Origami-Fortune-Teller%29

    12) "How does the Internet work?" -- Akamai, Director interview.
    Porn

    13) "If there was a movie produced about your life, who would play you and why?" -- SinglePlatform, Inside Sales Consultant interview.
    Eddie Murphy
    Because I'm white.

    14) "It's Thursday; we're staffing you on a telecommunications project in Calgary, Canada on Monday. Your flight and hotel are booked; your visa is ready. What are the top five things you do before you leave?" -- ThoughtWorks, Junior Consultant interview.
    blowjob, Sex, Sex, BLumkin, and furry orgy

    15) "Describe to me the process and benefits of wearing a seatbelt." -- Active Network, Client Applications Specialist interview.
    Keeps you Locked Up nice and tight during car fires.

    16) "Have you ever been on a boat?" -- Applied Systems, Graphic Designer interview.
    The Love Boat

    1. Re:My replies by Ihlosi · · Score: 1
      15) "Describe to me the process and benefits of wearing a seatbelt." -- Active Network, Client Applications Specialist interview. Keeps you Locked Up nice and tight during car fires.

      "I didn't mention cars." (Candidate makes obvious, but possibly unwarranted assumptions.)

    2. Re:My replies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "(Candidate makes obvious, but possibly unwarranted assumptions.)"
      The problem interpreting this how you did is that we cannot all be expected to be "experts" in everything. If the seatbelts have nothing to do with the job, then you can't make the assumption that i would know all the machinery where a seatbelt could be used. A car is the most common machine where there is a seatbelt.

      In the interview this was in, it is basically an ok question, since you need to be able to explain how a to do something ("Client Applications Specialist"), but really, if it's a specialist position (does that even mean anything today, though?), you should be able to come up with a question that has something more to do with the job other than some generic situation.

    3. Re:My replies by Ihlosi · · Score: 1
      If the seatbelts have nothing to do with the job, then you can't make the assumption that i would know all the machinery where a seatbelt could be used

      Well, but it should be common knowledge that machines besides cars might have seat belts. Maybe they were looking for a candidate who asks for clarification - so that he can avoid misunderstanding with customers or colleagues. On the other hand, an hour-long discussion about seatbelts that concludes with "Oh, I meant on airplanes, not on cars!" would certainly be hilarious.

    4. Re:My replies by gnasher719 · · Score: 1

      15) "Describe to me the process and benefits of wearing a seatbelt." -- Active Network, Client Applications Specialist interview. Keeps you Locked Up nice and tight during car fires.
      "I didn't mention cars." (Candidate makes obvious, but possibly unwarranted assumptions.)

      "Do you mean car seat belts?"
      "I don't think you're a good fit here; too pedantic."

  76. fails to deliver by Tom · · Score: 1

    Those are sometimes funny smart-ass answers, but not interview-ending much less "blowing up". Chances are, the guy has heard variations of them before.

    Personally, if I were ever to be presented with these bullshit interview questions, my response would be that I'm seriously interested in the job, but they apparently aren't seriously interested in me, and I prefer to work for someone who doesn't rely on bullshit pop-psychology standard interview questions whose purpose he only halfway understands himself. Bye.

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  77. Five Years by Koen+Lefever · · Score: 1

    quickly! must google: job interview site:xkcd.com and post whatever is returned. Seriously what relevance does that have? He doesnt even ask an interview question.

    Hey, I googled one which is relevant: 1088.

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  78. Here's some more stupid interview questions by Attila+the+Bun · · Score: 1

    I have your CV, your references, and usually the results of a written test. So why would I spend a lot of time asking about your technical expertise?

    The things I need to know are,

    • Are you willing and able to learn new stuff?
    • In a complex and dynamic environment, can you get things done?
    • How do you behave when your information is incomplete?
    • Do you care about making things work, or just about avoiding blame?
    • Do you have a bad attitude when taken out of your comfort zone?

    These question are relevant in almost any job, and the writer of this daft article has answered all of them.

    1. Re:Here's some more stupid interview questions by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So "Have you ever been on a boat?" and "How lucky are you and why?" are questions that indicate what exactly? If i live somewhere where there is no lakes around, or in a city or i just don't give a crap about boating, what that says that i'm not open to new experiences? I'm too comfortable just hanging around my neighbourhood? Not everyone have had that option. There are other means of transportation too, you know. I could understand this, if the job involved being on a boat, like a cruiser or something, but that question was for a graphic designer.

      "How lucky are you and why?" What the fuck? What, the company can't get shit done, so they want lucky people to just hit their toes on jobs and get them done, that's how i interpret this, or don't they just want to hire people who have had accidents happen to them, so they might need some time off to heal? The company seems pretty shitty to ask a question like this.

      These kind of questions are nothing more than waste of time. If you can't come up with anything better to ask, then don't fucking waste everyones time with shit like this. You can't expect that all applicants have the same generic knowledge to your generic questions and then conclude something out of it. What you can expect from them is to have the knowledge to do the job they are applying to, so the questions need to be about the job even if the real meaning of the question is something like "Are you willing and able to learn new stuff?". You need to be able to ask that question in terms of the position that the interview is about.

    2. Re:Here's some more stupid interview questions by ruir · · Score: 1

      Despite them having my CV, it is always more a less a mandatory question to ask you to describe in your own words your paste experience. It allows you to stress the most important experiences to the job in question, and to show them your reasoning process and how much articulate you are.

    3. Re:Here's some more stupid interview questions by Attila+the+Bun · · Score: 1

      Maybe they are clumsy questions -- I don't know the context. The question about boats may be following on from a comment about hobbies, or a desperate attempt to get a reticent candidate to open up. The question about luck may be triggered by something the candidate said which made the interviewer think they might be a chancer or risk-taker. Clumsy or not, the questions are neither rude nor inappropriate.

      If somebody sneers at me every time my English dips below Shakespearean standard, I know we're not going to be working together.

  79. "Describe to me the process and benefits ... by Ihlosi · · Score: 1
    ... of wearing a seat belt."

    A: Insert the metal fitting into the buckle. Benefit: You don't fall out of the chair when the Klingons fire on you.

  80. Re:Trick questions and trivia questions are dishon by FatLittleMonkey · · Score: 1

    Attempting to provoke an emotional response via trick questions or questions designed to insult or get the interviewee to take the bait and say something offensive is also dishonest, unless you are administering a voigt-kompf test.

    I had an interview where the interviewer offhandedly threw in "Of course, no one like doing [job]" while complaining about having to do the job I was applying for.

    To this day, I still don't know whether it was meant to be a "trick question", or they really had no sense of irony.

    "...but.. I... do."

    [The manhole cover question annoys me, because the supposedly correct answer is probably wrong. Pointing out the probably correct answer then makes you look like a smart-arse, and costs you the interview anyway. (Manhole covers are round because manholes are round, because pipes are round, because a cylinder is the strongest shape cheaply/easily manufactured with basic technology.)]

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  81. Obligatory Monty Python by Andy_R · · Score: 1

    If we're on the subject of stupid interview questions...

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_bsMGsBjWc

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  82. Having done interviews by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

    and asked questions of that ilk, there were several reasons:

    1. You might get asked an oddball question at a client and I'd like to see how you respond.

    2. I wanted to see if you pass the airplane test; i.e. would I mind sitting next to you for 8 hours on a plane ride.

    3. I've mad dup my mmd on wether or not recommend hiring you and still have 5 or 10 minutes of interview time to kill

    There are no right or wrong answers. It is interesting to see how people respond.

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    1. Re:Having done interviews by SuiteSisterMary · · Score: 1

      I agree with all points, but wow. Number 3 really got away from you.

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    2. Re:Having done interviews by Registered+Coward+v2 · · Score: 1

      I agree with all points, but wow. Number 3 really got away from you.

      yes. Speal cheekers sum times make a mess of a send trance.

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  83. You'll get lots of stupid questions post-interview by Stolpskott · · Score: 1

    First, you would be surprised how inter-connected a lot of these HR departments and technical team are - people moving from one company to another, or simply talking to each other about "asshat" candidates is very common.
    I find that is more of a problem in smaller countries and specialized industries, such as the banking sector in Stockholm or Oslo... less of a problem in London or New York.
    However, the rule is, as always, keep it professional in the interview. If you get the feeling that the role or the people or the company are not for you, explain to the interviewer calmly and rationally that you are not getting a good feeling about the situation, thank them for their time and wish them luck in filling the position. Then make your way out of the office and be thankful that you have only wasted an hour or two of your time. Certainly, that is not as satisfying as making a snarky comment, but you will find that all the pre-prepared snarky comments you walked in with are not appropriate for the situation, and all of the appropriate snarky comments you can come up with on the spot are insufficiently snarky to correctly encapsulate your sarcasm.

    Plus, if you think the interview questions are stupid, wait until you meet the users. Asking stupid questions in the interview is a good way of weeding out the people who will be incapable of suppressing the urge to strangle the third user who asks a mortifyingly stupid question.

  84. Best Questions by Murdoch5 · · Score: 4, Funny

    The best questions are the ones where you have to write code on a whiteboard but where the person asking the question doesn't know the answer.

    1. Re:Best Questions by swillden · · Score: 1

      Even better, where the person asking the question knows several partial answers, each with its own advantages and disadvantages.

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  85. Humans are animals.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can confidently say yes to that question, unless they're trying to weed out the virgins..

  86. The best answer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I'm convinced that I don't want the job, I simply answer "Yes" to all questions asking me how or why. You have to do it very confidently and act as if it was a legitimate answer. Works all the time.

  87. Thinking outside of the box by drstevep · · Score: 1

    True story: A typical HR person going through her standard interview question list asked me, "Do you ever think outside of the box?"

    I responded, "No. I just live in a very big box."

    She didn't know how to handle the answer. It was outside of her box, I guess.

  88. way not just say you're not interested? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Save everyone a lot of trouble and just say you've decided you're not interested. I've had good success for this. I actually had someone cut out all the BS when I said that because apparently they were really struggling to find someone

  89. Best answer I've heard to the tree question by Slagothor · · Score: 1

    A friend of mine was interviewing for a level 2 technical position at a large computer company. They asked him "If you could be any kind of tree, what type of tree would you be?". He thought about it for a second and said "deltree". Amazingly the interviewer got it right away and liked that it was both a DOS command "deltree.exe" and the fact that the company was Dell. He got the job.

    1. Re:Best answer I've heard to the tree question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Q: "If you could be any kind of tree, what type of tree would you be?"

      A: "I'd be a Fascist Dictator Tree. Or did you mean the species, not its professional role?"

  90. Re:Trick questions and trivia questions are dishon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Last interview I was on, they asked Justice League or Avengers. Not a super fan of the JL but no interest in Avengers outside of the movie. So I had to saw JL because, well, Batman. I don't know if that hurt or helped. I got the job but I haven't seen anything that makes that question relevant. They have meetings to discuss buzzwords and I've been bored to death with it all.

  91. HP interview on campus by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I was about to graduate from Purdue with a BSEE. I already had an offer I planned to accept from IBM but a friend told me I had to interview with HP.

    It was all standard BS until the interviewer drew a circuit and asked me to balance the transistor. I was fed up by then so I looked at him and said "if you think balancing a circuit is a better test of my skills than 4 years at a major university then I don't want anything to do with your company." And then I walked out.

    I then spent 30 years at IBM.

  92. HR weenies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If they are going to play games at the interview you can imagine how bad it's going to be when you start.
    Walk away.
    Now.

  93. Dumb idea by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    While that particular job may be a lost cause, what about when you meet this guy at another company for a job you really want? Or if he talks to other companies at the local golf club?

    That bridge you just toasted may be a hell of a lot wider and longer than you can imagine.

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  94. Trick Question by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I once was asked (by Avi Freedman) in an interview to draw a picture of the Internet. I drew a cloud and said something like "I don't feel like taking 3 days to put in any more detail," and he laughed. It was a trick question, he said - if someone tried to draw something with actual structure or detail (on an 8.5x11" piece of paper in a couple minutes), he knew they didn't know what they were talking about. So I don't consider it a dumb question in and of itself, though it can be depending on the intent of the asker.

    1. Re:Trick Question by Macgrrl · · Score: 1

      Surely the cloud would have little icons on it for Pr0n and lolcats - we all know that makes up 90% of the internet.

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  95. When you own your own business... by PJ6 · · Score: 1

    the to every interview question is always "I'm sorry, there's been a mistake. If you'll excuse me."

    I'll never go back.

  96. aLL BLOWED UP by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't have to blow up interviews, they blow themselves up.

  97. I believe. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I am in a pointless interview that is dragging on forever and I already figured it is a no go I can always say "I think I'm done here, I don't want us to waste each others time, bye bye".

  98. If there was a movie produced about your life by steak · · Score: 1

    "If there was a movie produced about your life, who would play you and why?"

    Samuel Jackson, because we have the same wallet.

    http://www.bmfwallets.com/

  99. "Have you even been on a boat" by Pontiac · · Score: 1

    Start up The Lonely Island's "I'm on a boat" on my phone

    Dance on the table while singing along then walk out chanting "I'm the boss!"

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  101. Re:Trick questions and trivia questions are dishon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The point of the tennis ball question (or overly-cliched manhole cover question) is not to see if the candidate already knows the answer, but to assess how he deal with a problem he hasn't thought about before. Can you reason from what little you know, and make some sense of a strange problem. Microsoft's famous (and now long retired) "how many gas stations are there in Seattle" question is the same way. Of course you don'know, of course you normally google stuff like this, and of course you won't get a precise answer. None of that is the point - the point is: can you reason about a problem from minimal data?

    But IMO those are stupid questions for a programmer, as you can get the same sort of assessment while getting the candidate to write code on the board.

    The problem is "reasoning from minimal data" and "making shit up because I have no idea and presenting it as fact" are not well distinguished by those questions.

    Asking them is the candidate evaluation equivalent of choosing "password" for your password because "no one would think of it!".

  102. Answer to Q10 by LongearedBat · · Score: 1

    10) "How many square feet of pizza are eaten in the U.S. each year?" -- Goldman Sachs, Programmer Analyst interview.

    How many times have you ever seen square shaped feet made of pizza?

    That's right: None.

  103. Tell me about a flaw by Libertarian001 · · Score: 1

    So I said "Sometimes I'm a little too honest." He said "That doesn't sound like a flaw." And I said "I don't give a shit what you think."

  104. Re:Trick questions and trivia questions are dishon by dkleinsc · · Score: 1

    My favorite similar question from an interviewer: "What Star Wars character would you describe yourself as, and why?"

    After I got the job, I asked the fellow who'd asked the question about it, and he said, "Oh, I don't care which character you pick, what I care about is what qualities you like about that character."

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  105. The real issue is that HR people are imbeciles by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, really. Why do all of the people with sub-100 IQs end up in this position? I don't know anyone who has ever had anything nice to say about these troglodytes that beshit the modern workforce.

  106. Re:staffing agencies / recruiters that ask very ba by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    As one that can have you done X indeed, my friend. As one that can have you done X indeed.

    But has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do more like?

  107. I like the questions by GWBasic · · Score: 1

    I like the questions in the linked article. Sometimes you need to ask a fluff question to make the candidate feel comfortable, or see if the guy has a sense of humor.

  108. I read the Tennis Ball question and asked, yeah wh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What other sport has fuzzy balls?

  109. Interviewing for Dummies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I swore if during an interview that no matter how much I ever wanted the job if I got asked a couple of key idiotic questions I would immediately bomb the interview.

    For example, I had an interview I thought I was personally acing, the four people interviewing were watching me complete some task in front of them saying "oh I didn't know you could do that" and "thats an interesting way of doing it" etc etc. Then at the end of about a 45min interview they said "Use three words to describe /your name/." I preceded to sit there and hum and haw, look at the ceiling and act genuinely deep in thought for no less then 15 minutes while they stared increasingly impatient with me (timed it, no exaggeration). Eventually I also got fed up and said "bacon, wombat, rhombus".

    The interview ended, I did not get the job.

  110. Re:Trick questions and trivia questions are dishon by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Indeed. What 90% of the answers in this thread don't realize is that the interviewer is asking questions to learn about a person, not about their answers. Odds are that you're interviewee #6053 for this position and he's looking for any reason for you to stand out from the next 7,000 people to interview for that position that are just as under-qualified as you are. He's finding out if you're flexible, personable, or just a stubborn smartass. He's finding out what you look like after the armor of canned-responses has been pierced. The smart ones will use your answers, partly, to determine if you'll learn to use the company code or if you're going to sit down and complain about "what idiot wrote this?" for the next 15 years until he fires you for rewriting working code into a buggy spaghetti bowl every day of your life when you're not at the dentist again.

    Job interviews are basically a game of poker where the questions and answers are just the cards. Your wagers, body language and overall demeanor are the real focus of the game.

  111. Always be professional by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I've been a little amazed at how often I run across the same people over and over again. Perhaps its just a Silicon Valley thing but I suspect its true in other industries as well.

    Always be professional. If the people who are interviewing you ask really stupid questions then, of course they fail your interview of them. There are good ways to end the encounter. You can even finish the day and just send a polite "thank you but I've decided to select a different company" later.

    If you turn into a jackass during the interview then you become the "horrible interview" story. You become the resume that gets left on the floor a year later when the smart person at that company, the one who asked good questions, the one keeping the whole place together is at his new job and gets the "oh, that guy" moment seeing your name.

    Always be professional.

  112. Best question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Dumbledore or Gandalf?
     
      Correct answer: White or grey?

  113. "Is there intelligent life in Outer Space"? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    LOL.. I had the same happened to me... Answer was: "Yes, me! How did you figured it out?" LOL

    Later they introduced me to a guy they said responded with: "Absolutely, but the real question is: Is there intelligent life on earth?"

  114. Sometimes I get those sort of BS questions... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And sometimes I just go philosophical on them along the lines of: "There is nothing good or bad, it is just a perception. So I don't know, I don't think of me of me on those terms. I just love who I am"

  115. Re:Trick questions and trivia questions are dishon by HornWumpus · · Score: 1

    Offtopic.

    Yeah, federal budget cuts. More, more, more...

    --
    John McAfee 'It was like that time I hired that Bangkok prostitute; to do my taxes, while I fucked my accountant'
  116. Mod parent down as flamebait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    1.) No where in the discussion so far is the US even brought up. The post is just designed to provoke argument.
    2.) the US DOES have extensive anti-discriminatory employment laws. There is possibly issue with enforcement of them and/or fear of employees to "whistle blow", but the laws do exist.

  117. Re:"well, pretty sure that wraps this interview up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    just a bit of background leading up to that question

    I'd already, in emails and to a lesser extent in the skype interview, discussed the reason for me wanting to move to NZ and that region specifically,

    what was being lost in income was been made up in quality of life upgrade and a heavy cut in housing costs

    great snow skiing and trout fishing all within a 1 hour drive (as opposed to 8+ hour flight), hiking trails with walking distance (v's 2+ hour drive) river suitable for kayaking less than 10 minutes from the office (OK that's 5 minutes further than I have now), and housing rental and purchase prices much less than half of my areas etc etc

    having lost many of their staff, both IT and mechanical, to the Western Australian mining boom the interviewer and his IT manager were so down on the organisation they worked for and their rural region in general and had a barely concealed contempt for either me or Australians in general.

    in the end I decided that as much as it would be a terrific place to live (I've kept my ear to the ground for other job opportunities and I'll continue to occasionally holiday there) it would have been a terrible organisation to work for.

  118. Re:I'm interviewing the company too by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nice one, will use this in my interviews as an opener.

  119. A question I'm going to ask at my next interview. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I swear I'm going to ask, "Does your company believe in and practice PREVENTATIVE MAINTENANCE?" My current employer stopped doing preventative maintenance as a cost saver! Things have to break completely to get addressed. A great way to operate "mission critical" equipment. Their next move is taking away our uniforms because of laundry cost. I work for a multinational company in the beverage and laundry container field, P&G and Pepsico being two customers.

  120. Seriously Guys by Gliscameria · · Score: 1

    101 unoriginal snarky comebacks! This right here is why I have been moving from another aggregator towards slashdot...

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  121. Not so stupid by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What most readers does not appear to comprehend is that facing a stupid, pointless, irrelevant or annoying question tells a lot about how you will react facing the same situation when, part of the team you will be sitting in a brainstorming, design review, or worst simply sitting at your desk. Just saying "What a f** stupid suggestion, I'm leaving this pointless meeting" is not someone I want on my team. Or will you calmly try to understand why the comment was made and explain why it does not apply. Or perhaps keep an open mind and try to see if there is a benefit.

    I hired people that fails so called "stupid questions" they are the types that sits there and wait to be spoon feed detailed instructions. I rather go with a passionate candidate, the kind that when asked a stupid question we end up on a totally different subject, where we both converse easily and without restrain. Extra point if I end up Goggling his hobby. I know that is an asset to the team, to everyone in the team.
     

  122. my favorite question by MA179 · · Score: 1

    The questions are unusual, I would have loved to hear the rationale behind them. One I like to ask, and was often asked why, was "What kind of car do you drive?" I found it a good personality indicator when other factors where taken into account. Such as income level, career level, family situation, age, and a number of other little things I pick up during the interview. It was also a great way to turn it into a conversation which tells you a lot more than an interview will.

  123. Re:Tame and lame Fermi Paradox by bbsalem · · Score: 1

    So, why haven't we seen any sighs of it at all? I don't believe UFOs are sufficient evidence of E.T.

    The answer may be that intelligent species don't last long enough to be in contact, an idea proposed by Enrico Fermi in 1945. They may appear in the universe, even in our galaxy with regularity, but when they get enough power to alter their environment, they exterminate themselves. If Climate change is caused by human technology, we are doing the experiment right now, and it may yield us a species-wide Darwin Award.

    Fermi was worried about nuclear weapons as the downfall of mankind. I'd say that greenhouse gasses, which seem far less lethal, are a much more insidious downfall, and I have five major mass extinctions in the past half billion years of megafauna on earth to back me up. These were all nearly yielding the same result, even if the causes were different, they involved a rapid upset of the carbon cycle in earth's biosphere that the megafauna in particular had no time to adapt to. We are among the current megafauna; we have been exterminating the other megafauna by hogging their habitats as we are in the midst of the latest mass extinction, but if we mess up the carbon cycle even more, it will bite us directly as water and food are denied us.

  124. Let us see how well you can abuse... by metaforest · · Score: 1

    The C Preprocessor....:
    [17 years ago]
    The interviewer started by asking me general programming knowledge questions.
    This went smoothly.
    Then it came to programming languages.. I ticked off a few assembly languages(8-bit and 16/32-bit CPUs), C, PASCAL, FORTRAN, FORTH, etc...

    Interviewer runs me through a few C specific gotchas that young players get snagged on.
    Then he starts showing me some basic C Preprocessor macros and asking me what they do...
    dupe, swap, endian swap, etc.
    So far so good.

    Then he gets into some really weird Preprocessor macros that looked like they were obfuscations or abuse of the preprocessor. One in particular I noted would be undefined behavior for ANSI C. None of these examples appeared to be useful. They simply demonstrated rather extreme Preprocessor-fu.

    At that point I stopped the interviewer and told him rather bluntly that if a subordinate of mine submitted code for review with these types of Preprocessor macros, there would be a very serious discussion regarding their future at the company.

    "I'm not going to sit here and try and figure out these messed up macros. I do not use the preprocessor to make code harder to read. Relying on obscure behavior in the Preprocessor is asking for trouble. Can we please move along?"

    The interviewer moved on to more productive questions.

    I did get the job.

  125. Get real. by NewYork · · Score: 1

    Employers prefer to hire a "highly skilled wage slave" in Globalization.

  126. people actually read this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    crap?

    1. Re: people actually read this by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I read every one of them... Took 3 hours, pausing to take a few notes.

  127. Re:Trick questions and trivia questions are dishon by JamieIanMacgregor · · Score: 1

    now that's a stupid question, you'll get the answer they think you want to hear, not anything that actually tells you about the applicant.

  128. What job title would you like to have someday? by oldestgeek · · Score: 1

    This was popular back in the day. "What job title would you like to have someday?" "I always liked Lord of the Universe but lately I've grown fond of Ming the Merciless, Ruler of the East." The interviewer broke up laughing and said, "I always thought this was a BS question!" I was offered the job but never called back.

  129. That script is broken by mpercy · · Score: 1

    Extraneous use of cat, plus it doesn't work. It's not quite a no-op, but it changes the first Bush to Obama on each line, then changes the first Obama to Bush. Migght be a no-op, or might result in odd constructs.

    [user@localhost ~]$ cat foo
    President Bush could not be reached for comment on Mr. Obama's comment: "I blame Presidnet Bush."
    [user@localhost ~]$ cat foo | sed -e s/Bush/Obama/ -e s/Obama/Bush/
    President Bush could not be reached for comment on Mr. Obama's comment: "I blame Presidnet Bush."

    [user@localhost ~]$ cat bar
    President Obama said "I blame President Bush." Former President Bush could not be reached for comment on Mr. Obama's comment.
    [user@localhost ~]$ cat bar | sed -e s/Bush/Obama/ -e s/Obama/Bush/
    President Bush said "I blame President Obama." Former President Bush could not be reached for comment on Mr. Obama's comment.