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True enough, but ISTR that Linux itself is a community project. If the corps. want to play, thet's fine with me; I'll support them like always (with my wallet). What I object to was the implication that NotACorporation == NoVoice. In other words, I see Bruce's project primarily as a community project and the parent poster seemed to be dissing it because no companies were seen there. As if that was the only form of credibility.
Agreed. IMHO the most challenging aspect of linux is its diversity. I mean, I know what I like, but here we're trying to agree on standards - not an easy task. Of course that diversity could also be a strength *and* a weakness all at once.
Re:The replacement is already here
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Um, allow me to step in here and kick your nuts on Bruce Peren's behalf.
Since when is linux just about companies and not communities?
Oh, OK. Sorry if it sounded like I was attacking. I was trying to make the same point you are, it seems. Mainly, I was getting pissed about all the FUD and anti-Mormon stuff in the SCO stories, because most of it is just flat out untrue. I was trying to show that tolerance and co-operation *do* happen, and the LDS church encourages it. As far as the point about IBM, that was supposed to show everybody that they shouldn't judge the entire state or church by the actions of SCO.
Interesting that you mention other states and small towns - I grew up in places like that. Same for the "witch store" - I've been to a few. Some co-workers were wiccan, and I was interested in my Mom's Celtic/pagan heritage.
What really gets me is how some people on/. seem to think that religion and faith are mutually exclusive of science, logic, and independent thinking.
Dad was- not only was he the one that got them hired (they were fresh out of Uni), but you should have *seen* the bonus check that quarter... my guess is that some salary contracts do things like that to people.
You could try your local jeweller for the diamond paste (left over from cutting) but I imagine its a bit expensive. I just use these with silver paste. They keep my 1 gHz PIII's at 90 deg. F (~60 C.) no problem.
Saw your post while replying to Simonetta's. Anyway, I've got a neat story:
My Dad is a senior scientist at SAIC. A few years ago they had a power failure at the office. He pulled his slide rule out from under his keyboard, and sat in the window with his notes and a pencil. The younger guys went home because the computers didn't have any power.
It makes my hair hurt to think about doing differential calculus like that; his data set was terabyte-size.
"Was this a high school that you are referring to when you say that you could get expelled for having a calculator or even a middle school? What was their reason for expelling a student with a portable machine that did arithmetic?"
I was in the 7th grade when they began this policy. The reason given was that calculators were suddenly cheap and widely available; they wanted to prevent any possibility of cheating. Everything had to be shown on paper, working through all the steps in your mind.
The current policy allows calculators, but the coursework was made more difficult. At the time, it was OK for engineers, scientists, and businesspeople to use them; they had already proven their understanding of math. The conservative policy was an effort to make sure the future generations also understood. Just IMHO, the current school administrators are *much* more liberal than in the past. Overall, it took about 10 years to absorb the change - well after I was gone.
I can't prove it, but I have a feeling that Singapore will become much like the US soutwest. My sister there tells me that her kids are learning Spanish simply because half their friends speak it. Advertising, business, and law are done in both languages. I have a feling that Singapore will be similar, simply because people will *want* to socialize, do business, have friends, etc. They will probably use the speech converters for a few decades until everyone is bilingual, with restrictions placed on school children such as the ones I had. HTH.
Very insightful comment, I imagine you are Brazilian?
I just wanted to say that your comment and questions seem to apply equally here in the US. People send their children to various schools, etc. and nobody seems to be asking "What is success?"
IIRC from history class, the wire recorders were phased out during WWII. Tho FWIW my Tektronix 'scope is still going strong (Model 541-A with the dual voltage amplifier plug-in).
The Kaypro 2? I've still got most of the GEM desktop for it, but I doubt the floppies are any good anymore. Anyway, I've been looking for one as a gift to my Dad - he's an engineer with fond memories of it. Me, I just liked the games and did my homework on it.
Heh, I used to have one of those boom boxes, but with classical music. I remember when calculators came out; you could get expelled from school if you were caught with one. The cool thing for me was the CB-radio with the 8-track player built in.
Wanna hear something even better? The LDS church is one of IBM's largest customers; *huge* database and mainframes at familysearch.org. As far as tolerance goes, my best friends in HS and for the last 20 years are Roman Catholic and Jewish respectively. As far as they're concerned, I'm just Fundamentally Protestant. And yes, we joke about it all together with no probs.
You know what? If Bill Gates, Steve Ballmer, et.al want my respect, it's easy:
Set up a small site or a blog with some code snippets under say, a BSD license. Come up with a cool idea for a project or three. Start a dialogue with people.
My point being that in my observation, the greatest leaders are the ones that are loved. I mean, at least Linus has the goodwill of countless netizens. Isn't that worth something?
"...if they're in Texas, I'll vote for one of their opponents too." Here, here, also in NYS. Got lots of friends in Silicon Valley too... and *that* gets politician's attention!
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True enough, but ISTR that Linux itself is a community project. If the corps. want to play, thet's fine with me; I'll support them like always (with my wallet). What I object to was the implication that NotACorporation == NoVoice. In other words, I see Bruce's project primarily as a community project and the parent poster seemed to be dissing it because no companies were seen there. As if that was the only form of credibility.
Agreed. IMHO the most challenging aspect of linux is its diversity. I mean, I know what I like, but here we're trying to agree on standards - not an easy task. Of course that diversity could also be a strength *and* a weakness all at once.
Since when is linux just about companies and not communities?
HTH, HAND
Interesting that you mention other states and small towns - I grew up in places like that. Same for the "witch store" - I've been to a few. Some co-workers were wiccan, and I was interested in my Mom's Celtic/pagan heritage.
What really gets me is how some people on /. seem to think that religion and faith are mutually exclusive of science, logic, and independent thinking.
Dad was- not only was he the one that got them hired (they were fresh out of Uni), but you should have *seen* the bonus check that quarter... my guess is that some salary contracts do things like that to people.
Oh come on. You know that's not what I meant. Or don't they teach geography anymore?
No, I failed the temp conversion. The BIOS reports 92deg. F
My bad on the temp conversion. However the BIOS reports 92 deg. F. Learning how to setup lm sensors...
You could try your local jeweller for the diamond paste (left over from cutting) but I imagine its a bit expensive. I just use these with silver paste. They keep my 1 gHz PIII's at 90 deg. F (~60 C.) no problem.
BAH! Back in my day, we just "re-purposed" our Colon Blow (TM). That colon-blasting stuff is *truly* the shiznit...
My Dad is a senior scientist at SAIC. A few years ago they had a power failure at the office. He pulled his slide rule out from under his keyboard, and sat in the window with his notes and a pencil. The younger guys went home because the computers didn't have any power.
It makes my hair hurt to think about doing differential calculus like that; his data set was terabyte-size.
I was in the 7th grade when they began this policy. The reason given was that calculators were suddenly cheap and widely available; they wanted to prevent any possibility of cheating. Everything had to be shown on paper, working through all the steps in your mind.
The current policy allows calculators, but the coursework was made more difficult. At the time, it was OK for engineers, scientists, and businesspeople to use them; they had already proven their understanding of math. The conservative policy was an effort to make sure the future generations also understood. Just IMHO, the current school administrators are *much* more liberal than in the past. Overall, it took about 10 years to absorb the change - well after I was gone.
I can't prove it, but I have a feeling that Singapore will become much like the US soutwest. My sister there tells me that her kids are learning Spanish simply because half their friends speak it. Advertising, business, and law are done in both languages. I have a feling that Singapore will be similar, simply because people will *want* to socialize, do business, have friends, etc. They will probably use the speech converters for a few decades until everyone is bilingual, with restrictions placed on school children such as the ones I had. HTH.
I just wanted to say that your comment and questions seem to apply equally here in the US. People send their children to various schools, etc. and nobody seems to be asking "What is success?"
*That* is what I fear.
Great point! I *still* listen to Boston...
IIRC from history class, the wire recorders were phased out during WWII. Tho FWIW my Tektronix 'scope is still going strong (Model 541-A with the dual voltage amplifier plug-in).
What are the fruitful implications for pot growers, I wonder?
The Kaypro 2? I've still got most of the GEM desktop for it, but I doubt the floppies are any good anymore. Anyway, I've been looking for one as a gift to my Dad - he's an engineer with fond memories of it. Me, I just liked the games and did my homework on it.
ISTR seeing that, but I meant the "all in one" stereo/CB units that I definitely saw at an auto show in 1981.
Heh, I used to have one of those boom boxes, but with classical music. I remember when calculators came out; you could get expelled from school if you were caught with one. The cool thing for me was the CB-radio with the 8-track player built in.
Cool, now I can add that number to my dialer pool.
Wanna hear something even better? The LDS church is one of IBM's largest customers; *huge* database and mainframes at familysearch.org. As far as tolerance goes, my best friends in HS and for the last 20 years are Roman Catholic and Jewish respectively. As far as they're concerned, I'm just Fundamentally Protestant. And yes, we joke about it all together with no probs.
Set up a small site or a blog with some code snippets under say, a BSD license. Come up with a cool idea for a project or three. Start a dialogue with people.
My point being that in my observation, the greatest leaders are the ones that are loved. I mean, at least Linus has the goodwill of countless netizens. Isn't that worth something?
Five. One to hold the pan and four to shake the stove.
How can you tell when an SCO was in the house?
The toilet's stopped up and the cat is pregnant.
"...if they're in Texas, I'll vote for one of their opponents too."
Here, here, also in NYS. Got lots of friends in Silicon Valley too... and *that* gets politician's attention!