I can't see how there *could* be any "what if" involved since Caldera/SCO themselves released ancient UNIX freely for download (including sources) for personal use. Versions covered include:
3. LICENSED SOURCE CODE PRODUCTS
The SOURCE CODE PRODUCTS to which SCO grants rights under this AGREEMENT are restricted to the following UNIX Operating Systems, including SUCCESSOR OPERATING SYSTEMs, that operate on the 16-Bit PDP-11 CPU and early versions of the 32-Bit UNIX Operating System with specific exclusion of UNIX System V and successor operating systems:
16-Bit UNIX Editions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 32-bit 32V
(quoted from the license)
Much of this was merged with BSD as part of the ATT settlement, producing what we now call SysV, IIRC. This leads me to think that any Xenix claims are baseless. Since that time, both SysV and Xenix have been modified, improved, etc. in a closed way that I wouldn't dispute. Note also that this effectively disembowels the errno.h header file argument, as if the POSIX and ANSI C standards didn't.
Maybe that's why IBM Global Services [note emphasis] has already recouped IBM's initial (1 billion USD in Y2K) investment in Linux. And now they're gaining.
Great, thanks for the advice! "Runs like a beast" wouldn't surprise me; back when I had RedHat 8 on it, it kept up with my Dad's new P4 machine running WinXP. So, I'm looking forward to this! *grins*
This might be a good use for such projects as Folding@Home, do you think? I can easily see all kinds of beneficial expoxies and paints coming from this... all eco-friendly and bio-degradeable.
" It's coming back up. Looks like their buddies are stepping in to intervene as usual..."
So we should wash, rinse, and repeat until their buddies start to show some strain, perhaps? At which time regulators such as the SEC might notice and/or care? I'm not holding my breath for the VC's however. In other words, think of this like the "sleeper hold" from wrestling, only applied to business law.
Cool idea actually, but I dunno if you could pack that much intelligence into a single mussel. I've been wondering about something like a "hive" of mussels, where the collective intellect of the hive is greater than any individual. It would be a neat way to paint the bottom of a ship, for example, with insanely strong glue as a kind of "paint".
Nifty idea overall; maybe this is the kind of thing we can use computational biology for?
Dr. Elizabeth Rauscher was there, speaking about her ELF work and project HAARP. Interestingly, she claims a very accurate prediction rate, but I'm told that the US Navy asked her to quit that line of investigation (they use ELF for long-range comms)
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I've been considering trying BSD but I have to wonder how well does it support *older* SMP machines? I have a dual Pentium Pro box just sitting here with ISA slots. BTW the ports system looks cool, from the examples in the comments.
ISTR that Intel has a couple of developers who work very close to the silicon itself, and also work with Linus wrt the instruction set, microcode, etc. as necessary. Sorry can't recall their names offhand, but maybe able to look it up in old kernel tarballs.
How about portability as a relative merit? I can do mp3 on Linux just as easily as on Windows. Last I tried it (OK, a year ago), WMA could only be done on Windows (natively I mean - no plugins or emulators allowed)
This has to be some kinda joke. Hell, I use Linux and I *still* prefer mp3 and Quicktime. OTOH it makes business sense, playing to the masses of Windows users. So yeah HP is on teh pipe, but they're prolly making $$$ doing it.
That maybe IBM wants to keep it low-key to avoid social pressure and causing an uproar. Let alone risking any number of business relationships if somebody hollers too loudly about it.
Actually, the *is* a "central body" collecting data on Linux installs right here. Its strictly voluntary and non-automated; you have to actively sign up if and when you find out about it. Hence, their numbers could reflect anything. BTW, this is Jon "Maddog" Hall's site; I remember when he first proposed the idea.
OK, cost not ease. No problem agreeing with that. Just for the hell of it (not trolling) I'd like to see if the ancient Egyptian heiroglyphs can be supported. Just to "push the envelope". Granted, the potential user base is tiny, but I'd like to know if its even possible. OTOH potential users such as University archaeology/ancient studies departments could be *very* ($$$) interested in that, I imagine. Just wondering about it, anyway.
...explain how the purported 3-4% revenue from Microsoft Israel might actually impact their (respective) bottom lines? I understand that revenue does not directly translate into profit/loss, correct me if I'm wrong. What about PR in the US? Thanks in advance.
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3. LICENSED SOURCE CODE PRODUCTS The SOURCE CODE PRODUCTS to which SCO grants rights under this AGREEMENT are restricted to the following UNIX Operating Systems, including SUCCESSOR OPERATING SYSTEMs, that operate on the 16-Bit PDP-11 CPU and early versions of the 32-Bit UNIX Operating System with specific exclusion of UNIX System V and successor operating systems: 16-Bit UNIX Editions 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 32-bit 32V
(quoted from the license)
Much of this was merged with BSD as part of the ATT settlement, producing what we now call SysV, IIRC. This leads me to think that any Xenix claims are baseless. Since that time, both SysV and Xenix have been modified, improved, etc. in a closed way that I wouldn't dispute. Note also that this effectively disembowels the errno.h header file argument, as if the POSIX and ANSI C standards didn't.
Ask and you shall receive... I "edited" Darl's pic before but never posted it. In the GIMP, of course. Will post it when I get done.
Preventing this sort of case is exactly the reason why RMS created GNU/FSF.
Nope. Mollusk snot.
Maybe that's why IBM Global Services [note emphasis] has already recouped IBM's initial (1 billion USD in Y2K) investment in Linux. And now they're gaining.
Great, thanks for the advice! "Runs like a beast" wouldn't surprise me; back when I had RedHat 8 on it, it kept up with my Dad's new P4 machine running WinXP. So, I'm looking forward to this! *grins*
This might be a good use for such projects as Folding@Home, do you think? I can easily see all kinds of beneficial expoxies and paints coming from this... all eco-friendly and bio-degradeable.
Best. Tech. Joke. EVAR!
Front row, crouching 2nd from left in dark blue/brunette/blue eyes... nice lab, BTW.
So we should wash, rinse, and repeat until their buddies start to show some strain, perhaps? At which time regulators such as the SEC might notice and/or care? I'm not holding my breath for the VC's however. In other words, think of this like the "sleeper hold" from wrestling, only applied to business law.
Nifty idea overall; maybe this is the kind of thing we can use computational biology for?
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Site works ok. Please see my post later in the thread.
Dr. Elizabeth Rauscher was there, speaking about her ELF work and project HAARP. Interestingly, she claims a very accurate prediction rate, but I'm told that the US Navy asked her to quit that line of investigation (they use ELF for long-range comms)
I've been considering trying BSD but I have to wonder how well does it support *older* SMP machines? I have a dual Pentium Pro box just sitting here with ISA slots. BTW the ports system looks cool, from the examples in the comments.
ISTR that Intel has a couple of developers who work very close to the silicon itself, and also work with Linus wrt the instruction set, microcode, etc. as necessary. Sorry can't recall their names offhand, but maybe able to look it up in old kernel tarballs.
How about portability as a relative merit? I can do mp3 on Linux just as easily as on Windows. Last I tried it (OK, a year ago), WMA could only be done on Windows (natively I mean - no plugins or emulators allowed)
This has to be some kinda joke. Hell, I use Linux and I *still* prefer mp3 and Quicktime. OTOH it makes business sense, playing to the masses of Windows users. So yeah HP is on teh pipe, but they're prolly making $$$ doing it.
That maybe IBM wants to keep it low-key to avoid social pressure and causing an uproar. Let alone risking any number of business relationships if somebody hollers too loudly about it.
Actually, the *is* a "central body" collecting data on Linux installs right here. Its strictly voluntary and non-automated; you have to actively sign up if and when you find out about it. Hence, their numbers could reflect anything. BTW, this is Jon "Maddog" Hall's site; I remember when he first proposed the idea.
Somebody actually *paid* to find out what I could've told them for free... go figure.
/me suddenly remembers this discussion... could be useful.
OK, cost not ease. No problem agreeing with that. Just for the hell of it (not trolling) I'd like to see if the ancient Egyptian heiroglyphs can be supported. Just to "push the envelope". Granted, the potential user base is tiny, but I'd like to know if its even possible. OTOH potential users such as University archaeology/ancient studies departments could be *very* ($$$) interested in that, I imagine. Just wondering about it, anyway.
...explain how the purported 3-4% revenue from Microsoft Israel might actually impact their (respective) bottom lines? I understand that revenue does not directly translate into profit/loss, correct me if I'm wrong. What about PR in the US? Thanks in advance.
Right on! Your last paragraph says it all. Sorry, no mod points here so: MODS: check this out!