They're just his preferred scripts, etc. The 1st Edition had most of it under GPL or BSD licenses; the remainder were under a "free for personal use" licence as long as the original author is acknowledged. Most of the configs and scripts were printed verbatim in the text also.
I've got a copy of the first edition, and it's quite dog-eared, worn out, and bookmarked and dozens of places. IIRC, it was the *only* thing I read (and re-read) for the first 2 months I had it. Very educational stuff, he comes out with things I never would have thought of.
I'm glad to hear he's keeping it up, and I plan to get a copy of the 2nd Edition ASAP.
Er, beg pardon for ignorance, but could you give a man page for the phrase "seven degrees of separation"? That's a new one on me, and it sounds like it may be useful. Thanks.
I fully agree with your points, and I must add: thank $DEITY my favorite artists now produce their own work.
Furthermore to this topic, a boycott *might* work if people could do it in sufficient numbers... but I really doubt that's going to happen, especially with the holidays approaching.
FWIW, I'm not against mass-media per se, just mass culture as promulgated by various conglomerates with "friendly" politicians. (And all the ethical filth that goes with that.)
Example: Have you ever tried to purchase a truly *good* production of some classical music in the US, let alone find a decent mp3 of it? Got news for you: If it doesn't sell big time in the US, it probably won't happen. Just a sore point for me.
to me, anyway; I gave up on the pre-recorded music somewhere back in the late 1980's. But I have to wonder what would iptables do with this? That could be, er, *interesting*
True, tho my nose is currently screwed due to eating/drinking/smoking, as you mentioned. For warlike purposes as needed by the Army/DARPA I would actually prefer Boxers (muscle) or Great Danes (size), in the belief that dogs noses are so much superior to ours in general that the specific breed is almost a non-issue. IMHO, technological measures are screwed beyond a certain point, compared to biological measures. Including dogs.
And yes, I have a soft spot in my heart for Boxers and Danes, so this post is entirely non-objective.
didn't my dog do this a long time ago, via his genome? For free (as in beer), no less, since his parents evidently did the Wild Thing (TM) for free, also....
does not exist for most of us. I must disagree with the commenter's post on Newsforge about standards not being needed; Linux is already quite standardized *from a technical standpoint* eg ANSI c/c++, FHS, POSIX, sh behvior.
Of course all that depends on the individual vendor's implementation.
Linus himself did not create his kernel to compete with anything; everyone else re-created it to do that. Linus has gone on record as saying he does not really care what happens in user space; he's not interested in anything there.
Let us not forget that distro != Linux.
My next argument is that Linux distros *do* need to standardize on the UI if they want to get $LARGE-BUSINESS-ACCOUNTS. Excuse me, but have you ever tried to tell your management that they don't need to standardize? Bear in mind that in the US business place, MS *is* the standard, mainly on the desktop and 3/4ths on the back-end.... any change will probably freak them.
Leading right back into my previous paragraphs.... business management doesn't really give a crap about obscure (for them) technical standards as long as they can do their jobs effectively (again, the UI thing) which in turn puts paychecks on the table. I feel that this sucks, myself, but that's how it is, and I *do* need to pay my rent.
At the end of the day, the *real* focus of linux is a 32 and 64-bit multitasking, multiuser capable kernel licensed under the GNU GPL, with supporting libraries and tools from GNU. That's all.
if this may be related somehow to this recent announcement regarding IBM's recent software initiatives in India.
On a slightly related question, how would any of this relate to the recent rumors of both IBM and MS vying to purchase Rational and Borland?
My take is this: IBM may be the number 2 software vendor, but as a company MS knows they could be choked on for breakfast in terms of sheer scale as reflected in US dollars. Upon reading about the recent sentiments in India, my vote goes with Big Blue.
DC to 30 megahertz. Perhaps I need to review the proper capitalization, but I doubt it, since Hertz is a proper name (currently given to a unit of measurement), and "mega" is a prefix...
Personally, I prefer to use the old "cycles-per-second" terminology, but it seems to inspire confusion in many for some odd reason.
True, I totally agree that product research is very important. Unfortunately most people aren't going to do it, beyond skimming the ads in the Sunday paper, and maybe picking up a copy of Consumer Reports.
AFAICS this simply points to the notion that "convenience sells", more than anything.
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They're just his preferred scripts, etc. The 1st Edition had most of it under GPL or BSD licenses; the remainder were under a "free for personal use" licence as long as the original author is acknowledged. Most of the configs and scripts were printed verbatim in the text also.
I've got a copy of the first edition, and it's quite dog-eared, worn out, and bookmarked and dozens of places. IIRC, it was the *only* thing I read (and re-read) for the first 2 months I had it. Very educational stuff, he comes out with things I never would have thought of.
I'm glad to hear he's keeping it up, and I plan to get a copy of the 2nd Edition ASAP.
Allow me to play "devil's advocate" in this thread, it seems so one-sided so far. Not that I have RTFA about Transmeta since like Jan 2001...
"...it's now 2002 and mobile Intel and AMD chips are faster and use less power. And don't even get started on desktop CPU comparison..."
Point 1:
Er, *NOW* you're going to worry about your electric bill? Last I checked, the Crusoe 5xxx series didn't even require CPU fans.
Point 2:
Since when does faster == better, as opposed to being more efficient?
Point 3:
Since when were Transmeta chips specifically aimed at the desktop market, as opposed to ie blade servers, thin clients, and embedded devices?
Just wondering.
Er, beg pardon for ignorance, but could you give a man page for the phrase "seven degrees of separation"? That's a new one on me, and it sounds like it may be useful. Thanks.
I fully agree with your points, and I must add: thank $DEITY my favorite artists now produce their own work.
Furthermore to this topic, a boycott *might* work if people could do it in sufficient numbers... but I really doubt that's going to happen, especially with the holidays approaching.
FWIW, I'm not against mass-media per se, just mass culture as promulgated by various conglomerates with "friendly" politicians. (And all the ethical filth that goes with that.)
Example: Have you ever tried to purchase a truly *good* production of some classical music in the US, let alone find a decent mp3 of it? Got news for you: If it doesn't sell big time in the US, it probably won't happen. Just a sore point for me.
that I have this thing in my "Inbox" about "TRY AOL 8.0 FREE"? I've never done any business with them, and do they have to shout in their ads too?
They're going out for some Chinese food? That has to be the funniest thing I've seen in the last 3 days! (The Great Firewall, etc....)
I pretty much just stopped listening to new music at that time; my record and tape collection had everything I wanted, and still does.
That's interesting about iptables; I had assumed such a thing would use some oddball port and service combination. I'll go RTFM.
to me, anyway; I gave up on the pre-recorded music somewhere back in the late 1980's. But I have to wonder what would iptables do with this? That could be, er, *interesting*
If I was an engineer, I'd say that the CD is too big.
True, tho my nose is currently screwed due to eating/drinking/smoking, as you mentioned. For warlike purposes as needed by the Army/DARPA I would actually prefer Boxers (muscle) or Great Danes (size), in the belief that dogs noses are so much superior to ours in general that the specific breed is almost a non-issue. IMHO, technological measures are screwed beyond a certain point, compared to biological measures. Including dogs.
And yes, I have a soft spot in my heart for Boxers and Danes, so this post is entirely non-objective.
didn't my dog do this a long time ago, via his genome? For free (as in beer), no less, since his parents evidently did the Wild Thing (TM) for free, also....
does not exist for most of us. I must disagree with the commenter's post on Newsforge about standards not being needed; Linux is already quite standardized *from a technical standpoint* eg ANSI c/c++, FHS, POSIX, sh behvior.
Of course all that depends on the individual vendor's implementation.
Linus himself did not create his kernel to compete with anything; everyone else re-created it to do that. Linus has gone on record as saying he does not really care what happens in user space; he's not interested in anything there.
Let us not forget that distro != Linux.
My next argument is that Linux distros *do* need to standardize on the UI if they want to get $LARGE-BUSINESS-ACCOUNTS. Excuse me, but have you ever tried to tell your management that they don't need to standardize? Bear in mind that in the US business place, MS *is* the standard, mainly on the desktop and 3/4ths on the back-end.... any change will probably freak them.
Leading right back into my previous paragraphs.... business management doesn't really give a crap about obscure (for them) technical standards as long as they can do their jobs effectively (again, the UI thing) which in turn puts paychecks on the table. I feel that this sucks, myself, but that's how it is, and I *do* need to pay my rent.
At the end of the day, the *real* focus of linux is a 32 and 64-bit multitasking, multiuser capable kernel licensed under the GNU GPL, with supporting libraries and tools from GNU. That's all.
Anything else is up to the rest of us.
A lot of /.er's don't RTFA either.
Bummer. IME, that's what managers are looking for in these economic times. Of course, it doesn't exist. Just ask Sales, they'll be glad to tell you.
Please, do point this out to the higher ups
3/4 of my family uses them, I've got to go spread the word...
Thank $DEITY is do Linux on dialup, for once!
Er, IMO that was a beautiful post you made, and I'm saving it into ASCII text for my /usr/local/doc.
Thanks.
if this may be related somehow to this recent announcement regarding IBM's recent software initiatives in India. On a slightly related question, how would any of this relate to the recent rumors of both IBM and MS vying to purchase Rational and Borland? My take is this: IBM may be the number 2 software vendor, but as a company MS knows they could be choked on for breakfast in terms of sheer scale as reflected in US dollars. Upon reading about the recent sentiments in India, my vote goes with Big Blue.
I stand corrected.
DC to 30 megahertz. Perhaps I need to review the proper capitalization, but I doubt it, since Hertz is a proper name (currently given to a unit of measurement), and "mega" is a prefix...
Personally, I prefer to use the old "cycles-per-second" terminology, but it seems to inspire confusion in many for some odd reason.
This makes me wonder if it's possible to get carpal tunnel, etc. from spanking the monkey (http://www.monkeypoem.com)
Heh, you just made my day... I have a Tektronics Type 541A oscilloscope with the type CA plugin here... working perfectly, approx. 1952 construction
True, I totally agree that product research is very important. Unfortunately most people aren't going to do it, beyond skimming the ads in the Sunday paper, and maybe picking up a copy of Consumer Reports.
AFAICS this simply points to the notion that "convenience sells", more than anything.