Thanks for the info... but it's already in practice here. I don't go places with jukeboxes, etc. and I have to wonder if they get a cut out of Travan backup tapes. That said, I *was* using CD-R's up until a few months ago... there simply wasn't enough capacity to be practical anymore.
Great points, your comment makes me regret that I've used all my mod points. I remember similar troubles during the transition from vinyl LP's to cassette tapes...
True; as an artist I must agree, though my media is not music. (I prefer oil and charcoal on canvas)
In other words, it *is* the artist's music, I couldn't agree more, in the same way that it *is* the developer's code.
The thing about it all that bugs me is this: the apparent need to control the medium (CD-R/mp3) in order to legally convey the message (music).
I don't mind paying for legit products, but it bugs me when there only seems to be one option. If the industry would legitimize alternative media into their business model to convey their message (think: if the really major labels offered subscription services to their servers) then it wouldn't be such a problem.
ok, fair enough. I can deal with the desire to copy-protect, but whan I'm just trying to *play* the damn thing, it tends to get irritating. The attitude reflected in the story doesn't help anything, either. FWIW, the big music industry hasn't made $1 USD from me in >= 5 years, and they're not going to until they start to "get it". This especially means producing something that I might actually want to pay for, instead of an endless stream of recordings with one big hit on each, where the rest is "filler material".
Also, in case anyone is wondering: I remember very well having similar troubles during the transition from vinyl LP's to cassette tapes... and thence to cd. I still own my copies of the above-mentioned media, and it's rare indeed (perhaps once or twice a year) that I feel compelled to use p2p networks. Practical upshot is, if I could find the music, etc. I love on cd or whatever, I prolly wouldn't use the p2p thing at all... but NO, we've got to have the business types try and determine our tastes thru their sales figures, and then listen to them bitch bout p2p, etc...
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"...we can assume that in the majority of cases this favorability is more emotional that rational."
Er, yes it is. I become emotional when *my* computer does what I tell it to and is limited only by *my* imagination and skills, as opposed to an NDA and an EULA. The "free beer" arguments are the icing on the cake, even if that's all that the business types will see.
for some odd reason, Borland's Kylix 3 comes to mind... I just got a copy installed here a few days ago and want to find out if the claims made for it are true. If so, it would seem to fit your situation
Let us not forget, either, that the public library system in USA was founded by a certain Benjamin Franklin in Philadelphia. He was also a noted publisher of anonymous works, both his own and others.
ok, I finally gotta troll here. Does anyone else recall SONY's affiliations with the *AA's? Not that it really matters to me; I use Plextor:)
(In other words, I voted with my wallet... and was a happy customer.)
Furthermore, I don't own -any- DVD's and the count of movies I have on VHS that were actually worth paying for (IMO) in the last 30 years can be done on one hand.
And ya know what? The reason for all that is the fact that I actually -DO- have a life instead of sitting around on my ass watching movies regardless of the medium.
True, true. Pisses me off, but probably not enough since that sort of hypocritical activity seems to boil down to "business as usual" for the politicians, lawyers, and large companies here in the US. The sad part about this is that Joe Average here doesn't seem to care much *if he even knows about it in the first place*
Thanks for your real-world commentary, I think we need more of that around here sometimes. Unfortunaely I don't have moderator status at the moment, so could someone please mod this up as insightful or something?
Also, I have to give credit for hanging out here on slashdot and keeping a professional demeanor, what with all the MS bashing that typically goes on.
I've used linux exclusively for 5 years now on a daily basis, and yes I love virtual desktops and features like that. Bummer it seems to take this long for them to become more mainstream. As far as resources go, I've done them on linux with a 486 and 20 megs. It's going to be interesting to see how the public at large reacts to them if they ever become widespread.
As far as populations go, I'm actually quite disappointed in the level of technical literacy I usually encounter. I'm not talking about hard-core stuff, but basic things like common units of measurement and how to use semi-technical language. A typical example: recently my production manager told me that his new PC "has a 2 gigabyte pentium 4." Further inquiry revealed no clue about the difference between giga- and mega-,etc...
Well anyhow, thx for the comment. I hope you have fire-proof underwear.
er, no. most of the bandwidth in the US is privately owned or at least controlled by either individuals or businesses of all sizes. Hence, there is no single point of control. Generally, bandwidth access and prices are subject to regional economics and upstream carriers.
Heh, I'd be tickled if I could uncap my dialup... I was recently informed by mozilla's progress bar that my 57 mb d/l of IBM's Eclipse platform has 14 hours remaining...
Yeah I gotta agree with you on that, about MS eventually hanging themselves. As far as focus goes, I really meant SunONE, having recently read an interview with McNealy and it was obvious that's where all his focus is. Not that I'm any kind of Sun expert or anything; I just think they have cool hardware and definitely a strong *nix background.
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it's gonna be interesting to see what happens to things like shortwave radio and satellite comms...
I've always wanted to see my toilet flush in the opposite direction.
SELECT * FROM internet WHERE pr0n > 0
damn cool site you have too, not to mention great commentary. thx for the links
Thanks for the info... but it's already in practice here. I don't go places with jukeboxes, etc. and I have to wonder if they get a cut out of Travan backup tapes. That said, I *was* using CD-R's up until a few months ago... there simply wasn't enough capacity to be practical anymore.
Great points, your comment makes me regret that I've used all my mod points. I remember similar troubles during the transition from vinyl LP's to cassette tapes...
True; as an artist I must agree, though my media is not music. (I prefer oil and charcoal on canvas)
In other words, it *is* the artist's music, I couldn't agree more, in the same way that it *is* the developer's code.
The thing about it all that bugs me is this: the apparent need to control the medium (CD-R/mp3) in order to legally convey the message (music).
I don't mind paying for legit products, but it bugs me when there only seems to be one option. If the industry would legitimize alternative media into their business model to convey their message
(think: if the really major labels offered subscription services to their servers)
then it wouldn't be such a problem.
wow, that's cool! I look forward to your link for that!
heh, good one. I totally agree
ok, fair enough. I can deal with the desire to copy-protect, but whan I'm just trying to *play* the damn thing, it tends to get irritating. The attitude reflected in the story doesn't help anything, either. FWIW, the big music industry hasn't made $1 USD from me in >= 5 years, and they're not going to until they start to "get it". This especially means producing something that I might actually want to pay for, instead of an endless stream of recordings with one big hit on each, where the rest is "filler material".
Also, in case anyone is wondering: I remember very well having similar troubles during the transition from vinyl LP's to cassette tapes... and thence to cd. I still own my copies of the above-mentioned media, and it's rare indeed (perhaps once or twice a year) that I feel compelled to use p2p networks.
Practical upshot is, if I could find the music, etc. I love on cd or whatever, I prolly wouldn't use the p2p thing at all... but NO, we've got to have the business types try and determine our tastes thru their sales figures, and then listen to them bitch bout p2p, etc...
"...we can assume that in the majority of cases this favorability is more emotional that rational."
Er, yes it is. I become emotional when *my* computer does what I tell it to and is limited only by *my* imagination and skills, as opposed to an NDA and an EULA. The "free beer" arguments are the icing on the cake, even if that's all that the business types will see.
64-bit computing with very large RAM (and possibly bandwidth) becomes as commom as the current PC configurations, IMHO
for some odd reason, Borland's Kylix 3 comes to mind... I just got a copy installed here a few days ago and want to find out if the claims made for it are true. If so, it would seem to fit your situation
Let us not forget, either, that the public library system in USA was founded by a certain Benjamin Franklin in Philadelphia. He was also a noted publisher of anonymous works, both his own and others.
Heh! Heh! Good one, It's gonna hurt from laughing on a full stomach
ok, I finally gotta troll here. Does anyone else recall SONY's affiliations with the *AA's? Not that it really matters to me; I use Plextor :)
(In other words, I voted with my wallet... and was a happy customer.)
Furthermore, I don't own -any- DVD's and the count of movies I have on VHS that were actually worth paying for (IMO) in the last 30 years can be done on one hand.
And ya know what? The reason for all that is the fact that I actually -DO- have a life instead of sitting around on my ass watching movies regardless of the medium.
'Nuff said
Too bad I actually read the article and snarfed a good sigquote from it. Evidently they have the bugs worked out after a disasterous first attempt.
True, true. Pisses me off, but probably not enough since that sort of hypocritical activity seems to boil down to "business as usual" for the politicians, lawyers, and large companies here in the US. The sad part about this is that Joe Average here doesn't seem to care much
*if he even knows about it in the first place*
Thanks for your real-world commentary, I think we need more of that around here sometimes. Unfortunaely I don't have moderator status at the moment, so could someone please mod this up as insightful or something?
,etc...
Also, I have to give credit for hanging out here on slashdot and keeping a professional demeanor, what with all the MS bashing that typically goes on.
I've used linux exclusively for 5 years now on a daily basis, and yes I love virtual desktops and features like that. Bummer it seems to take this long for them to become more mainstream. As far as resources go, I've done them on linux with a 486 and 20 megs. It's going to be interesting to see how the public at large reacts to them if they ever become widespread.
As far as populations go, I'm actually quite disappointed in the level of technical literacy I usually encounter. I'm not talking about hard-core stuff, but basic things like common units of measurement and how to use semi-technical language. A typical example: recently my production manager told me that his new PC "has a 2 gigabyte pentium 4." Further inquiry revealed no clue about the difference between giga- and mega-
Well anyhow, thx for the comment. I hope you have fire-proof underwear.
er, no. most of the bandwidth in the US is privately owned or at least controlled by either individuals or businesses of all sizes. Hence, there is no single point of control. Generally, bandwidth access and prices are subject to regional economics and upstream carriers.
Heh, I'd be tickled if I could uncap my dialup... I was recently informed by mozilla's progress bar that my 57 mb d/l of IBM's Eclipse platform has 14 hours remaining...
here's a decent interview with Scott McNealy from Linux Magazine, check it out at http://www.linux-mag.com/2002-08/mcnealy_01.html
Yeah I gotta agree with you on that, about MS eventually hanging themselves. As far as focus goes, I really meant SunONE, having recently read an interview with McNealy and it was obvious that's where all his focus is. Not that I'm any kind of Sun expert or anything; I just think they have cool hardware and definitely a strong *nix background.
I had a longhorn joke further down...
Go for it, man! Whatever you might feel about McNealy personally, ya gotta give him credit for sheer guts and having razor-sharp focus IMHO.