Thoreau did his own time in prison, of course. "Risk and sacrifice" has nothing to do with the actual words or title "civil disobedience," only with the way that Thoreau describes it. I would be surprised by any detailed argument providing evidence from Thoreau's writings that he would have considered wasting a corporation's time with a stupid prank (if such HAD happened, which Groklaw's analysis suggested it did not) to be "civil disobedience."
And where exactly did you get the idea that I thought Thoreau did call it "civil" for any reason other than that it was resistance to "civil" authority? By the way, Gandhi read and referred to Civil Disobedience, and MLK read and referred to both Thoreau and Gandhi.
I wasn't making that distinction. I don't know if MLK was ever convicted of anything. If he were convicted of violating some of the laws he opposed, it would have been a badge of honor.
Posted this before I saw some of the excellent postings below which suggest that SCO's report of a DDoS may not be entirely above the board. s/Those launching a DDoS against a company that's doing something stupid are risking nothing, are sacrificing nothing./Those who would launch a DDoS against a company that's doing something stupid would be risking nothing, are sacrificing nothing./ etc.
The fundamental principle of civil disobedience is found in Thoreau's formulation that "Under a government which imprisons unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison." An act is not civil disobedience unless the protestor is at credible risk of being arrested. For a protest to deserve the honor of being described as civil disobedience, it requires risk and sacrifice.
Gandhi spent time in prison. As did MLK. And so did many of the serious anti-war activitists in the 60s.
There's a second issue. SCO is not a government. There is recourse through justice against SCO. So civil disobedience is, again, not appropriate; civil disobedience is directed against a government guilty of an injustice which cannot be redressed through ordinary means.
Those launching a DDoS against a company that's doing something stupid are risking nothing, are sacrificing nothing. They are also providing SCO with ammunition in their attempts to paint all Linux users as criminals (pirates, copyright violators, communists!). They're vandals, pure and simple, and the fact that they're vandalizing an asshole's house isn't a valid justification.
If you were going to go for a space achievement, I'd think that the Apollo CM/SM/LM system would do it. My freaking PDA probably has more computing power than all of NASA had in 1969. ISS is ultimately just a incremental improvement on Skylab and the Almaz/Salyut/Mir series (pl.).
In accordance with the Microsoft Product Support Lifecycle, no-charge support for Windows 98 ended on July 1, 2003. Paid-only support will continue to be available from Microsoft at $35 per incident until January 16, 2004. Support will also be available from some third party providers.
Microsoft will also continue to offer a variety of self-help resources on the Product Support Services Web site until at least January 16, 2006, two years after phone support for Windows 98 ends on January 16, 2004. These resources include the Microsoft Knowledge Base and Newsgroups.
It was in Massachusetts, and it was Governor Gerry, a Democratic-Republican (you will sometimes hear Democratic-Republicans described as Republicans, as on the White House website, but in fact what institutional continuity there has been links the Democratic Party to the Democratic-Republicans; the Republican Party was a splinter group that claimed to better represent the original values of the D-Rs, and at the time the Republican Party was first founded, when the Republicans were anti-slavery and the Democrats pro-slavery, that was probably true). Gerry was blamed for a redistricting plan that separated historically linked communities (such as Bradford and Haverhill) from one another for the purpose of creating a Dem-Rep-safe district. An 1812 political cartoon depicting the new district as a kind of dragon, with the caption "The Gerry-mander," is responsible for the word. It is a very common term in US political language. Written from within the Gerrymander.
PDFs are a papyrocentric format: they're designed to mimic hardcopy, and include lots of cruft to carry that mimicry off. Straight *ml or text does 99% of the work with 20% of the resources, and is more universal.
You know, I hate to say it... the problem with Bob wasn't the idea, it was the execution. For it to work properly, you'd need a LOT more computing power than was available at the time (maybe a lot more than is available now). Bob was too stupid.
In the first century, it was usual for heroic figures (in the technical Greek sense of "hero") to have two genealogies: that of their assumed father, and that of their "heavenly" father. Thus Alexander could speak of his father Zeus Ammon, despite the fact that if he wasn't the biological son of Phillip, he couldn't be king of Macedon. If you look at the Jesus genealogies in this way, you can see why the genealogy of Joseph is still important despite the presumption that Jesus is the son of Yahweh.
The Gnostics are a lot earlier than the 15th century; many of the Gnostics were in fact Christians as well (seeing Christ as a hypostasis of Sophia, sent to infiltrate Yaldaboath's creation). But there is a definite Gnostic flavor some of LOTR and Silmarillion, you're right, despite Tolkien's own religious attitudes.
I mean an AOL user here at work got her computer upgraded from 98 to 2k (new computer). From a user standpoint there is almost no difference. She was even used to loggin in since network shares required it. None the less she found about a million things to whine abou. One was that when you open explorer in 98 it goes to the C drive, in 2k it goes to your home directory. She bitched and moaned that this was confusing/difficult/took time/etc till we found a fix.
Hemlock, I hope.
I've had to migrate too many users who treated "c:\" as their home directory. Someone started bitching to me about not going directly to c:\ when Explorer opened, I'd be deeply tempted to go BOFH and replace her computer in the middle of the night with an 80286 running DR. DOS and Windows 2.
Xerox never commercialized the Alto, did it? Yes, the real invention was PARC's. Apple's innovation is at making computer innovation a product; Microsoft's is at making it a commodity.
Upload is local to remote; download is remote to local. Always been that way. Historically we used to think of upload as being client to server, download server to client because usually the server is remote and the client is local; but the definitions relate to the local/remote dichotomy.
Yes, well, citing a dictionary entry will stand you in good stead in a court room when you try to explain that your right to shout "fire" in a crowded theater when there is in fact no fire is constitutionally protected speech because the courts cannot "limit" your rights. There are 2500 years of scholarship on just what free speech (originally, in Greek, isegoria) means; I suggest you start with Stanley Fish, *There's No Such Thing as Free Speech (and a Good Thing, Too)* (see this interview, http://www.lib.latrobe.edu.au/AHR/archive/Issue-Fe bruary-1998/fish.html). (A good comparison would be the claim that the second amendment's guarantee not to "infringe" "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" guarantees my right to own tactical nuclear weapons.)
It would be better if you called Linux "Windows." That way you'd learn about two limits to the constitution's speech protections at the same time; the first one when you have Microsoft suing you for violation of their trademark, and the second when you have Linus Torvalds suing you for defamation for calling his baby that... word.
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Thoreau did his own time in prison, of course. "Risk and sacrifice" has nothing to do with the actual words or title "civil disobedience," only with the way that Thoreau describes it. I would be surprised by any detailed argument providing evidence from Thoreau's writings that he would have considered wasting a corporation's time with a stupid prank (if such HAD happened, which Groklaw's analysis suggested it did not) to be "civil disobedience."
And where exactly did you get the idea that I thought Thoreau did call it "civil" for any reason other than that it was resistance to "civil" authority? By the way, Gandhi read and referred to Civil Disobedience, and MLK read and referred to both Thoreau and Gandhi.
I wasn't making that distinction. I don't know if MLK was ever convicted of anything. If he were convicted of violating some of the laws he opposed, it would have been a badge of honor.
So we can all assume that SCO or their hosting company has already received and paid their $699 invoices?
Posted this before I saw some of the excellent postings below which suggest that SCO's report of a DDoS may not be entirely above the board. s/Those launching a DDoS against a company that's doing something stupid are risking nothing, are sacrificing nothing./Those who would launch a DDoS against a company that's doing something stupid would be risking nothing, are sacrificing nothing./ etc.
The fundamental principle of civil disobedience is found in Thoreau's formulation that "Under a government which imprisons unjustly, the true place for a just man is also a prison." An act is not civil disobedience unless the protestor is at credible risk of being arrested. For a protest to deserve the honor of being described as civil disobedience, it requires risk and sacrifice.
Gandhi spent time in prison. As did MLK. And so did many of the serious anti-war activitists in the 60s.
There's a second issue. SCO is not a government. There is recourse through justice against SCO. So civil disobedience is, again, not appropriate; civil disobedience is directed against a government guilty of an injustice which cannot be redressed through ordinary means.
Those launching a DDoS against a company that's doing something stupid are risking nothing, are sacrificing nothing. They are also providing SCO with ammunition in their attempts to paint all Linux users as criminals (pirates, copyright violators, communists!). They're vandals, pure and simple, and the fact that they're vandalizing an asshole's house isn't a valid justification.
If you were going to go for a space achievement, I'd think that the Apollo CM/SM/LM system would do it. My freaking PDA probably has more computing power than all of NASA had in 1969. ISS is ultimately just a incremental improvement on Skylab and the Almaz/Salyut/Mir series (pl.).
Nope. We all had the image of an old file transfer protocol. After all, this IS Slashdot.
Only if you define "some time" as "a few weeks". See the Windows 98 Support Page:
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In accordance with the Microsoft Product Support Lifecycle, no-charge support for Windows 98 ended on July 1, 2003. Paid-only support will continue to be available from Microsoft at $35 per incident until January 16, 2004. Support will also be available from some third party providers.
Microsoft will also continue to offer a variety of self-help resources on the Product Support Services Web site until at least January 16, 2006, two years after phone support for Windows 98 ends on January 16, 2004. These resources include the Microsoft Knowledge Base and Newsgroups.
On the other hand, there's another restaurant analogy one could use in imagining a good 3D desktop: a dessert tray.
Parent isn't +1 informative, it's +5 funny. The link is to a sample of the sound of the signal from the movie *Contact*. It is not SHGb11+15a .
It was in Massachusetts, and it was Governor Gerry, a Democratic-Republican (you will sometimes hear Democratic-Republicans described as Republicans, as on the White House website, but in fact what institutional continuity there has been links the Democratic Party to the Democratic-Republicans; the Republican Party was a splinter group that claimed to better represent the original values of the D-Rs, and at the time the Republican Party was first founded, when the Republicans were anti-slavery and the Democrats pro-slavery, that was probably true). Gerry was blamed for a redistricting plan that separated historically linked communities (such as Bradford and Haverhill) from one another for the purpose of creating a Dem-Rep-safe district. An 1812 political cartoon depicting the new district as a kind of dragon, with the caption "The Gerry-mander," is responsible for the word. It is a very common term in US political language. Written from within the Gerrymander.
PDFs are a papyrocentric format: they're designed to mimic hardcopy, and include lots of cruft to carry that mimicry off. Straight *ml or text does 99% of the work with 20% of the resources, and is more universal.
You know, I hate to say it ... the problem with Bob wasn't the idea, it was the execution. For it to work properly, you'd need a LOT more computing power than was available at the time (maybe a lot more than is available now). Bob was too stupid.
In the first century, it was usual for heroic figures (in the technical Greek sense of "hero") to have two genealogies: that of their assumed father, and that of their "heavenly" father. Thus Alexander could speak of his father Zeus Ammon, despite the fact that if he wasn't the biological son of Phillip, he couldn't be king of Macedon. If you look at the Jesus genealogies in this way, you can see why the genealogy of Joseph is still important despite the presumption that Jesus is the son of Yahweh.
The Gnostics are a lot earlier than the 15th century; many of the Gnostics were in fact Christians as well (seeing Christ as a hypostasis of Sophia, sent to infiltrate Yaldaboath's creation). But there is a definite Gnostic flavor some of LOTR and Silmarillion, you're right, despite Tolkien's own religious attitudes.
I mean an AOL user here at work got her computer upgraded from 98 to 2k (new computer). From a user standpoint there is almost no difference. She was even used to loggin in since network shares required it. None the less she found about a million things to whine abou. One was that when you open explorer in 98 it goes to the C drive, in 2k it goes to your home directory. She bitched and moaned that this was confusing/difficult/took time/etc till we found a fix.
Hemlock, I hope.
I've had to migrate too many users who treated "c:\" as their home directory. Someone started bitching to me about not going directly to c:\ when Explorer opened, I'd be deeply tempted to go BOFH and replace her computer in the middle of the night with an 80286 running DR. DOS and Windows 2.
Xerox never commercialized the Alto, did it? Yes, the real invention was PARC's. Apple's innovation is at making computer innovation a product; Microsoft's is at making it a commodity.
Upload is local to remote; download is remote to local. Always been that way. Historically we used to think of upload as being client to server, download server to client because usually the server is remote and the client is local; but the definitions relate to the local/remote dichotomy.
Rotates at 1.02 Days[E]. But Phobos-months are 0.32 Days[E], Deimos-months are 1.26 Days[E], and Mars-years are 1.88 Years[E].
-1. 545 months a year - you've GOT to be kidding me?
-2. Whaddya mean, less than 2 days a month.
-3. Whaddya mean, those are both the LONG month?
Yes, well, citing a dictionary entry will stand you in good stead in a court room when you try to explain that your right to shout "fire" in a crowded theater when there is in fact no fire is constitutionally protected speech because the courts cannot "limit" your rights. There are 2500 years of scholarship on just what free speech (originally, in Greek, isegoria) means; I suggest you start with Stanley Fish, *There's No Such Thing as Free Speech (and a Good Thing, Too)* (see this interview, http://www.lib.latrobe.edu.au/AHR/archive/Issue-Fe bruary-1998/fish.html). (A good comparison would be the claim that the second amendment's guarantee not to "infringe" "the right of the people to keep and bear arms" guarantees my right to own tactical nuclear weapons.)
It would be better if you called Linux "Windows." That way you'd learn about two limits to the constitution's speech protections at the same time; the first one when you have Microsoft suing you for violation of their trademark, and the second when you have Linus Torvalds suing you for defamation for calling his baby that ... word.
It all depends upon how strictly you define UNIX, no?
The Latin word means "blight." (Wonder if Vinge knew that when he wrote *Fire Upon the Deep*) And personally, even though I read Latin, I use viruses.