As does windows, at least, it did until 2000 - I'm not sure about XP, but before that I had to explicitly disable spatial filebrowser mode, a.k.a "Large Icons". In XP I'm not sure if "Large Icons" or Thumbnails mode is the default...
If they thought to put that notice there, I wonder what held them back from properly implementing the ability to drop files onto the task bar button.
Drag and drop is sensitive to the exact location where content is dropped.... In MS Word, for example, note the difference between dropping a file into the document area of the window vs the title bar.
As such, there is no obvious action to take when content is dropped on the taskbar... (I know what I'd like to see happen, but it's not always the obvious behaviour...)
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(Option list) Hit return and use arrow keys and return to select option.
Yet another feature for employers and others to use to track you and invade your privacy further. I can see uses for this (LoJack for laptops?), but I can see it being abused right out of the gate. "Sorry, in order for you to connect to the corporate LAN, your GPS needs to be enabled."
Sorry, but that's not how GPS work. The GPS device can locate itself based on the signals from the satellite. It does not allow others to track you unless you send them your location.
On a company issued laptop, with the company-approved VPN client, I'm sure that the company can ensure that the "... unless you send them your location..." part is taken care of. It's not that they can wirelessly read your GPS, but they can install GPS tracking software in the laptop, and have the data uploaded when you connect to the network...
there is effectivly zero difference between setuid'ing a binary and adding sudo access to it with the NOPASSWD option.
Good point - you can implement setuid using sudo; I'd never thought of that, since it's easier to just chmod +s the requisite binary....
I was more trying to describe how (fine-grained) sudo is different from setuid... but looking back, you're right: the parent asked if we can eliminate setuid using sudo, which we almost can.
Windows traditionally stored the password in a weakened form, and could be induced to transmit it in said weakened form via the network as well. In the event that a Windows password is intercepted, it is possible to brute-force the weakened hash more easily than, say, an MD5 hash.
Also, IIRC, "traditional" Unixes had issues with >8 character passwords, in the days before MD5/Twofish shadow passwords.
couldn't Sudo also be used as a method to reduce the number of setUID binaries on a Unix system
Hmm... not quite. They both have their purposes:
Sudo is used to allow a specific user to perform an administrative function (change network settings).
setUID is used when a user needs to perform a basic function, but need administrative priviledges to do so (change password; must update 'read-only' password files)
There are other distinctions between them as well, but this should give you the idea of what each is good for.
Sudo is used when you trust a user to do the right thing.
setUID is used when you trust a program to ensure that the user is doing the right thing.
The threats on the internet these days are significantly different from what they were back then.
Still, it makes an interesting read. Not so much "Secure your network in 60 minutes", but rather, "the first 60 minutes towards ensuring your network is secure".
Hmm... maybe try Suse... I just upgraded to 9.3 (Previously running RH9.0)
Responding to your main points:
* laptop working in 1400x1050 properly: Check - automagic.
* power management works: Check - automagic.
* graphical partition manager: Check - Yast2
* plug-n-play DVD drive: Check
* mouse work automatically: Check
* alsa set up automatically: Check - aplay and alsamixer Just Work (TM).
* Printer setup: Check - KDE kprinter "Add Printer" wizard, accessible right from the print dialog.
* combine usability with power and flexibility: Check - YaST2
actually, if this gets popular, and/. buys into the idea, you could then log into anywhere as http://slashdot.org/~martian67 - no need to re-register anywhere else... That's the whole point...
when I get those "pick a username" boxes, I just put any random garbage in there.... so in a moment of creativity, I managed to score "AnyRandomGarbage" on AIM...
If I were implementing an identity server, in order to prevent phishing like this I would not have the identity server ask for a login during the middle step... (the way I read the spec, it's not meant to...)
Instead, I'd have the identity server return "not logged in", and make people log in to the identity server first, separately. This is for people like me, who log into slashdot first thing in the morning, then proceed to visit other sites during the day... I'm already logged in to slashdot, so it can validate my id without needing to give me a login box.
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As does windows, at least, it did until 2000 - I'm not sure about XP, but before that I had to explicitly disable spatial filebrowser mode, a.k.a "Large Icons". In XP I'm not sure if "Large Icons" or Thumbnails mode is the default...
...discussions on how to implement this on Linux and which wm would get it first...
Especially when there's a prototype implementation available - with source! (It's for XP unfortunately - who's up for porting it?)
Ummm..... 6 months ago???
OriMado implementation of Fold'n'Drop for XP - dated 2005/02/02.
http://www.kmonos.net/lib/orimado.en.html
If they thought to put that notice there, I wonder what held them back from properly implementing the ability to drop files onto the task bar button.
Drag and drop is sensitive to the exact location where content is dropped.... In MS Word, for example, note the difference between dropping a file into the document area of the window vs the title bar.
As such, there is no obvious action to take when content is dropped on the taskbar... (I know what I'd like to see happen, but it's not always the obvious behaviour...)
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(Option list) Hit return and use arrow keys and return to select option.
And to drive the point home even further, Ctrl-Space to select rather than Ctrl-Click means no mouse at all... :)
Do you have a URL to back this up?
N C/
Does this help?
https://www.trustedcomputinggroup.org/downloads/T
On a company issued laptop, with the company-approved VPN client, I'm sure that the company can ensure that the "... unless you send them your location
there is effectivly zero difference between setuid'ing a binary and adding sudo access to it with the NOPASSWD option.
:-)
Good point - you can implement setuid using sudo; I'd never thought of that, since it's easier to just chmod +s the requisite binary....
I was more trying to describe how (fine-grained) sudo is different from setuid... but looking back, you're right: the parent asked if we can eliminate setuid using sudo, which we almost can.
Except, remember: sudo *is* a setuid binary.
Windows traditionally stored the password in a weakened form, and could be induced to transmit it in said weakened form via the network as well. In the event that a Windows password is intercepted, it is possible to brute-force the weakened hash more easily than, say, an MD5 hash.
Also, IIRC, "traditional" Unixes had issues with >8 character passwords, in the days before MD5/Twofish shadow passwords.
Hmm... not quite. They both have their purposes:
- Sudo is used to allow a specific user to perform an administrative function (change network settings).
- setUID is used when a user needs to perform a basic function, but need administrative priviledges to do so (change password; must update 'read-only' password files)
There are other distinctions between them as well, but this should give you the idea of what each is good for.The threats on the internet these days are significantly different from what they were back then.
Still, it makes an interesting read. Not so much "Secure your network in 60 minutes", but rather, "the first 60 minutes towards ensuring your network is secure".
Hmm... maybe try Suse... I just upgraded to 9.3 (Previously running RH9.0)
Responding to your main points:
* laptop working in 1400x1050 properly: Check - automagic.
* power management works: Check - automagic.
* graphical partition manager: Check - Yast2
* plug-n-play DVD drive: Check
* mouse work automatically: Check
* alsa set up automatically: Check - aplay and alsamixer Just Work (TM).
* Printer setup: Check - KDE kprinter "Add Printer" wizard, accessible right from the print dialog.
* combine usability with power and flexibility: Check - YaST2
HTH. YMMV. HAND.
...I certainly haven't seen anything on any of the usual lists about it...
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Partly, because it's actually a dupe... well disguised, though...
http://it.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/06/12/14
Fuck you Timothy, you've just done a revers DOS.
:-)
I think Timothy and Chris have figured out the secret to the age-old question:
Who will Slashdot the Slashdotters?
Is Britney Spears a rocket scientist?
No, but she is a semiconductor physicist...
Would HyperContent do the trick for you?
http://hypercontent.sourceforge.net/
(Disclaimer: I used an early version of this from a year ago; I don't know how well it currently stacks up against what you're comparing it to...)
The "Marvin the Martin" quote in your sig is somewhat eerie given the context of this discussion... :-)
But spacing lines by 10 would cause the program to run ten times slower, right? Right?
Yeah! you're right!
Oh, wait... or was it ten times faster?
Hmm... I forget... Damnit!
I believe his point was that there were no loop constructs - you had to create your loops manually using if and goto...
Heh - yeah, me too... that was an oops on my part - that was supposed to be a reply to the post above yours...
I fixed this by setting my xterms to greenscreen...for extra points, change the foreground colour occasionally...
actually, if this gets popular, and /. buys into the idea, you could then log into anywhere as http://slashdot.org/~martian67 - no need to re-register anywhere else... That's the whole point...
when I get those "pick a username" boxes, I just put any random garbage in there.... so in a moment of creativity, I managed to score "AnyRandomGarbage" on AIM...
If I were implementing an identity server, in order to prevent phishing like this I would not have the identity server ask for a login during the middle step... (the way I read the spec, it's not meant to...)
Instead, I'd have the identity server return "not logged in", and make people log in to the identity server first, separately. This is for people like me, who log into slashdot first thing in the morning, then proceed to visit other sites during the day... I'm already logged in to slashdot, so it can validate my id without needing to give me a login box.