The purchases from the server will most likely be made in bulk. It's not like any given company would be willing to bill a CC company based on a $.05 sale. I'm more worried about the tax ramifications of those bulk sales than the sale itself.
I don't believe the poster was referring to the DRM itself rather than the potential tax placed upon it, which they'd still have to pay in his scenario.
Which is what I truly don't understand.....how much, exactly, does it take to produce a CD from A to Z? How much money do they have to recover? Does it really take several million dollars to launch a new CD, regardless of the artist? If so, it would seem that not only their business model is out of date but they're taking lessons from the MPAA as well. Makes sense though.
I believe the reason so many people on this site make that difference is because there is one. The legal system is defined by laws, which are usually written by lawyers for lawyers. There's a certain degree of ambiguity to the usual "layperson", however the ramifications and penalties of certain actions or violations can be immense; depending on the definition of the law. If there's an interpretation problem with that law there's also an appellate process with specialized courts set aside for this up to and including the Supreme Court for literal interpretation and basic civil conformance to the intent of the Constitution. To that extent, many people posting here believe (at least morally) that theft is not the same as infringement, nor should the penalties be equal. The actual law states there's a difference because legally they remain two separate entities. However, by introducing severe civil forfeitures rather than actual criminal penalties tends to muddy the waters. People (not being lawyers) tend to equate the two; for example: in my state if you are convicted of a second offense drunk driving the fines and penalties are considered criminal up to and including $1000 and 30 days in jail. Compare that to a civil proceeding, which is not criminal and the fines can START at $1000 per song. Perception, yes, however the penalties are still not inline with the rest of the judicial process and are arguably the byproduct of big money chasing a cause in the House and Senate. Either way, I think that's why people get so passionate on the subject. If the government is going to hold me responsible to abide by its laws than they better define them exceptionally well. Vice verse as a "layperson", you better educate yourself on those same laws so you know what the hell you're talking about when the situation arises. I think this is one of those times.
Me personally, I'd take the money. However, once that ceiling is broken between Supervisory and Management positions a little latitude is usually afforded in the name of a "perk". Use that perk to further your development and progress from there. Either way you seem to be in a position that many people don't have.
I agree with you, however a business should never model itself under its software; the software should enhance the business. I think a lot of software developers seem to miss this concept and "hurrying out to market share" will only result in ultimate failure. Oh crap, I forgot about micros...nevermind.
Your last sentence sparked a reminder in me back in my days as an engineering student (no, not software or IT). We were all handed, as usual, the customary stack of shit we had to do to complete the course as well as a list of books we would have to purchase. The book bill alone was almost $900 and by the end of the first week we were all wondering: would we have to actually KNOW all this crap? The standard questions started flowing. Will this be on the test? What will I actually do with this information? Will I ever use it? Will I pass this course? As it turns out, as usual, the correct questions were not being asked. I finally broke down to visit my Professor (also my student advisor) for some tutoring help. When asked if I had to memorize all this shi...I mean stuff, he gave me the most insightful answer I've ever heard since: "I don't expect you to memorize this information to be an Engineer, however I expect you to know where to find it." I think this is true of this post as well. A good manager is kind of like the captain of a ship. He may not have the immediate answer but he never, under any circumstances, lets the crew know that because he can find it and find it quickly. Being less reactionary and more problem-solving driven is often the more successful, if less traveled, path to thriving today. I wish more managers understood that.
I think a better rule of thumb is to "opt-out" of the usual authorization for emails when setting up any account. If you get an email from that company you know something is amiss. Better yet, just don't respond to those emails or even attempt to access them through the attached link.
And who do YOU think is helping to fund your local school system? The fact that your kids will have to help support childless parents in the future is by no means their fault; or their burden. If they worked all their life and paid SS taxes, technically that money is theirs. The fact that the government misappropriated those funds has nothing to do with their, or your future as far as retirement. If I were you I'd be more pissed at the people responsible for screwing your kids' future than the couple who made a conscience choice to not be part of that system. All they want back is the money that the government promised they would give them by taxing them their whole life. Seems fair to me considering that US citizens never had a choice in determining their own future...the government just added a new tax to increase the revenue stream with no thought of consequence. Well, here we are. People bitching about childless parents to help support that system. What a crock.
Not much grey area there......and I agree. Funny how we need to go back to VHS to avoid that crap. Fine by me. Many of the "advancements" in the digital era really aren't advancements at all; they're a form of control. You're right...screw 'em.
That's all fine and dandy, however the day my wife received a phone call from a collections attorney for $1.78 was the day we swore never to step foot in that shithole again. To this day I'm convinced they would have taken her to court if need be; otherwise why hire a lawyer?
And why is it that these schools implement drug sniffing dogs, metal detectors and random locker searches? Could it be because they've had trouble with it in the past? Nah, that can't be it; it must be a conspiracy.
You bring up an interesting point. Since schools are responsible for the students while they're there, if a parent opts out of this program would the school still be liable?
Yes but the pendulum always swings both ways and usually to the extremes. I agree that Unions served a purpose at one time, however the comfort they usually provide doesn't last a lifetime or that of the next generation. Visit any plant where any Union is strong: you'll see 60 year old guys with an eighth grade education telling you that you can't step over the yellow line without protective shoes; and he'll write a grievance. Granted he's getting $65,000 a year to do this but it's also why the average cost of a new car or motorcycle sets the consumer years into debt. Better? I say worse. We're now to the point that fostering this attitude is a detriment to the economy and the consumer. The work ethic isn't dead in America; it's just hiding behind outdated rules; like Unions. They served their purpose at the time and the pendulum will swing the other way.
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Those types of battles are usually short lived, especially in the corporate world but in the meantime; "The enemy of my enemy is my friend."
Heck, where do YOU live?
The purchases from the server will most likely be made in bulk. It's not like any given company would be willing to bill a CC company based on a $.05 sale. I'm more worried about the tax ramifications of those bulk sales than the sale itself.
I don't believe the poster was referring to the DRM itself rather than the potential tax placed upon it, which they'd still have to pay in his scenario.
HEY...listening to 80's rock and trying to score with...oops, nevermind. That's a bigger fine.
Which is what I truly don't understand.....how much, exactly, does it take to produce a CD from A to Z? How much money do they have to recover? Does it really take several million dollars to launch a new CD, regardless of the artist? If so, it would seem that not only their business model is out of date but they're taking lessons from the MPAA as well. Makes sense though.
Actually that's true across the board: the enemies of my enemies are my friends. It seems to get a little more complicated down the road, howwever.
That was almost as bad as goatse....almost
I believe the reason so many people on this site make that difference is because there is one. The legal system is defined by laws, which are usually written by lawyers for lawyers. There's a certain degree of ambiguity to the usual "layperson", however the ramifications and penalties of certain actions or violations can be immense; depending on the definition of the law. If there's an interpretation problem with that law there's also an appellate process with specialized courts set aside for this up to and including the Supreme Court for literal interpretation and basic civil conformance to the intent of the Constitution. To that extent, many people posting here believe (at least morally) that theft is not the same as infringement, nor should the penalties be equal. The actual law states there's a difference because legally they remain two separate entities. However, by introducing severe civil forfeitures rather than actual criminal penalties tends to muddy the waters. People (not being lawyers) tend to equate the two; for example: in my state if you are convicted of a second offense drunk driving the fines and penalties are considered criminal up to and including $1000 and 30 days in jail. Compare that to a civil proceeding, which is not criminal and the fines can START at $1000 per song. Perception, yes, however the penalties are still not inline with the rest of the judicial process and are arguably the byproduct of big money chasing a cause in the House and Senate. Either way, I think that's why people get so passionate on the subject. If the government is going to hold me responsible to abide by its laws than they better define them exceptionally well. Vice verse as a "layperson", you better educate yourself on those same laws so you know what the hell you're talking about when the situation arises. I think this is one of those times.
You'd rather be, granted, however which one are you?
Me personally, I'd take the money. However, once that ceiling is broken between Supervisory and Management positions a little latitude is usually afforded in the name of a "perk". Use that perk to further your development and progress from there. Either way you seem to be in a position that many people don't have.
I think that's the whole point of the thread....to define what is or is not a good manager. Yours is an example of "not a good manager".
I agree with you, however a business should never model itself under its software; the software should enhance the business. I think a lot of software developers seem to miss this concept and "hurrying out to market share" will only result in ultimate failure. Oh crap, I forgot about micros...nevermind.
Your last sentence sparked a reminder in me back in my days as an engineering student (no, not software or IT). We were all handed, as usual, the customary stack of shit we had to do to complete the course as well as a list of books we would have to purchase. The book bill alone was almost $900 and by the end of the first week we were all wondering: would we have to actually KNOW all this crap? The standard questions started flowing. Will this be on the test? What will I actually do with this information? Will I ever use it? Will I pass this course? As it turns out, as usual, the correct questions were not being asked. I finally broke down to visit my Professor (also my student advisor) for some tutoring help. When asked if I had to memorize all this shi...I mean stuff, he gave me the most insightful answer I've ever heard since: "I don't expect you to memorize this information to be an Engineer, however I expect you to know where to find it." I think this is true of this post as well. A good manager is kind of like the captain of a ship. He may not have the immediate answer but he never, under any circumstances, lets the crew know that because he can find it and find it quickly. Being less reactionary and more problem-solving driven is often the more successful, if less traveled, path to thriving today. I wish more managers understood that.
I think a better rule of thumb is to "opt-out" of the usual authorization for emails when setting up any account. If you get an email from that company you know something is amiss. Better yet, just don't respond to those emails or even attempt to access them through the attached link.
And who do YOU think is helping to fund your local school system? The fact that your kids will have to help support childless parents in the future is by no means their fault; or their burden. If they worked all their life and paid SS taxes, technically that money is theirs. The fact that the government misappropriated those funds has nothing to do with their, or your future as far as retirement. If I were you I'd be more pissed at the people responsible for screwing your kids' future than the couple who made a conscience choice to not be part of that system. All they want back is the money that the government promised they would give them by taxing them their whole life. Seems fair to me considering that US citizens never had a choice in determining their own future...the government just added a new tax to increase the revenue stream with no thought of consequence. Well, here we are. People bitching about childless parents to help support that system. What a crock.
Not much grey area there......and I agree. Funny how we need to go back to VHS to avoid that crap. Fine by me. Many of the "advancements" in the digital era really aren't advancements at all; they're a form of control. You're right...screw 'em.
That's all fine and dandy, however the day my wife received a phone call from a collections attorney for $1.78 was the day we swore never to step foot in that shithole again. To this day I'm convinced they would have taken her to court if need be; otherwise why hire a lawyer?
I would think that the dealer can get a better return on the cash sale (money in hand, so to speak) then they ever could in financing at 0%.
And why is it that these schools implement drug sniffing dogs, metal detectors and random locker searches? Could it be because they've had trouble with it in the past? Nah, that can't be it; it must be a conspiracy.
You bring up an interesting point. Since schools are responsible for the students while they're there, if a parent opts out of this program would the school still be liable?
Having multiple drunk driving convictions does not make you corrupt nor does being a heavy drinker. Stupid decision making maybe but not corrupt.
So maybe if the Linux revolution people could fork over several billion dollars in marketing we could be sheep too?
Yes but the pendulum always swings both ways and usually to the extremes. I agree that Unions served a purpose at one time, however the comfort they usually provide doesn't last a lifetime or that of the next generation. Visit any plant where any Union is strong: you'll see 60 year old guys with an eighth grade education telling you that you can't step over the yellow line without protective shoes; and he'll write a grievance. Granted he's getting $65,000 a year to do this but it's also why the average cost of a new car or motorcycle sets the consumer years into debt. Better? I say worse. We're now to the point that fostering this attitude is a detriment to the economy and the consumer. The work ethic isn't dead in America; it's just hiding behind outdated rules; like Unions. They served their purpose at the time and the pendulum will swing the other way.
HEYYY...I LIKE my Saturn