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Arm Wrestling Robots Beaten By A Teenage Girl
fembots writes "Despite her lack of strength, training and technique, a 17-year-old girl has bested three robot arm wrestlers in a contest attempted to encourage the development of polymer-based artificial muscles, which can change shape when activated either electrically or with chemicals."
A 17-year-old girl has bested three robot arm wrestlers
Been there. Welcome to the club, robots
"Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one " -Albert Einstein
Isn't that they lost to a girl, but how all the other robots teased them afterwards.
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What, you mean all at once?
It took 40 years to get one to walk on two feet. Next up, "Vomiting robot beaten by 6 month old baby."
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what next?? Robots vs Humans WWF?
fuvoo: watch something
I remember girls used to beat me at arm wrestling in Highschool. who am I kidding... they still do :(
Thats why I visit /.
I, for one, welcome our 17 year old female overlords.
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NPR also covered the story. Here's a link to their story.
the technology or her peers?
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Nice to see our tax dollars being used to beat a 17 year-old. Wait, who won that again?
the fight was over a credit card
"CmdrTaco defeats spell checker." After that, "Zonk defeats dupe engine."
I bet she's very popular in highschool now... :)
You go girl! :)
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A photo of the robot is cool, but I really wanted to see a photo of the girl!
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This is exactly the kind of thing that leads to the motivation for robots to build hoards of rampaging kill-bots.
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Did she look something like this?
A religious war is an adult version of a fight over who has the best imaginary friend
Panna Felson
Here's Panna Felsen's bio, with standard "glamour shot" highschool picture:
m er ah/the-human-opponent.htm
http://ndeaa.jpl.nasa.gov/nasa-nde/lommas/eap/a
- bbk
Click here. She's not bad looking. ;)
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Since the jokes are going to be flying fast and furious over this, I thought I'd ask if anyone has links to other information about this cool research. Googling on polymer muscles brought up this page, but I didn't see anything about their ability to carry semi-fluid weight loads like groceries, tools, etc.
One nice side note (hopefully) - since it's government funded through NASA, does this mean this work won't be patented and re-sold in the market for an even higher price than it will already cost?
Battlemechs?
I'm not even going to attempt this at work. I assume it's the goatse guy.
That robot is gonna need a beer.
To win, the robots may need to choose weaker enemies.
Perhaps they should take a cue from the RIAA and take on 12-year girls.
"The three robot teams are now trying to work out what went wrong."
"You think this plug is important, Lou?"
"Nah."
Lets put the woman to work instead of the robots!
Sarah Conner has nothing to worry about.
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The robot let the girl win to prevent itself being mentally abused and blackmailed.
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So the robots must have about the same physique and musculature of the average slashdot reader?
I mod down all the "free iPod"-sig losers.
Never arm wrestle a girl.
If you win, you get made fun of for beating a girl.
If you lose, you get made fun of for losing to a girl.
In this case, you get:
But at the time he thought it would take decades before the technology was ready to match humans. This first contest suggests he may have been right.
Thats almost as bad.
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... in a contest attempted to encourage the development of polymer-based artificial muscles
A depressingly similar situation in Junior High is what encouraged my development of my then-gummy-based muscles!
I just pooped your party.
"Panna, a self-confessed wimp, was chosen to represent humanity."
Wonderful. It doesn't sound like they expected it to be much of a contest. They should make the robot arms fight each other first until they get good enough to beat a self-confessed wimp. Then, maybe they won't be wasting everyone's time.
This girl could probably beat all of us up. Fear her.
What advantage does the use of polymer-based artificial muscles bring? It seems rather inefficient to let the robot carry around acid to make the muscles contract as TFA indicates.
Robot scientists continue to lose lunch money. Plan building larger "cool" bot to carry their books and beat up agressive females.
What has this world come to?
Did you mean to post that comment in the article about the RIAA?
Skynet officials were quoted as saying, "yeah, but she's no Sarah Conner."
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Humanity is 'saved', unless she is Number 6, the next generation Cylon...
It says it's currently under construction. Maybe the guy just wants to see how well it stands up to stress. Though I wouldn't personally post my IP on /.
Wow, it's a good thing they didn't get Stallone to arm rassle thos robots, then they really would have been humliated!
DAMN YOU OCTODOG! DAMN YOU TO HELL!
To really draw interest, they should organize matches between women and other types of polymer-based artificial extremities commonly available in shady stores emblazened with neon lights...
Wow, a Verizon DSL customer in Tampa. Big whoop. Maybe that arm can come wrestle the connection off your computer to avoid FAILURE.
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for a girl.
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Been there. Welcome to the club, robots
Doesn't bode well for BattleMechs, either.
and they seemed so fierce in those novels!
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a 17-year-old girl called Panna Felsen
called? is the girl a robot as well?
whatever happened to named?
Next time use high pressure hydraulics, and crush this teenage girl's arm. That'll teach her.
The researchers were baffled at this result. "They always beat us in the lab, so I don't understand how this could happen!"
Obviously, the polymer muscles were not controlled with Intel's StrongARM processors. Hook an iPaq up, and THEN rematch!
I'm the Devil the Windows users warned you about.
The scientist were apparently "suprised" at how easily their machines were beat. I'm sure they tested these machines before bringing them to this contest. What this basically means is that the scientist involved are bigger whimps than this girl.
Even with mechanical advantages, geeks are still wimps.
You see? You see? Your stupid minds! Stupid! Stupid!
[nelson]HA HA![/nelson]
...putting the only well developed muscle to a good use.
I will be waiting until after the mud wrestling match to form an opinion...
on your impending purchase of a luxury sports car.
The contest was set up by Yoseph Bar-Cohen
Yoseph Bar-Cohen, as if that's his real name!! He's really Cohen the Barbarian, and maybe he'll have to defend himself next time, rather than sick his robots on her!
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Holy Gods! She's gorgeous, bright, and can protect me from killer robots!
robot claims it let girl win to get a piece...
Isn't that like drinking and driving?
yes.
yes she was.
I would think that the people designing the bots would test them first. Or did the bots beat all of the designers in arm wrestling? If they did, I wouldn't be too suprised.
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I for one, welcome our new 17 year old arm-wrestling robot dominating almost-legal female overlords!
And you know what.. i'll let her win. But not before I shoot my load on her breasts.
Welcome our wimpy, weak Robot Overlords.
It's not offtopic, dumbass. It's orthogonal.
The artificial muscles will, likely, become 10 or 100 times stronger 5-10 years from now.
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Do you have a nude one of her?
muscles changing shape .... hmmmmmmm me thinks something else is a foot
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A hot geek helping a bunch of geeks getting a KISS, with her robotics knowledge? My brain is hurting already...
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Damn, did that article really have to be posted by him?
:)
Just when I was looking for his nickname in this page, I found it on the main post... Slashot's a small place after all
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Yoshimi couldn't let those robots eat me. It'd be tragic if those evil robots win.
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What the hell are you talking about. Most of the posters on slashdot can't grow facial hair.
I was studying towards my doctorate in this specific field for two years. This particular challenge was touted for a long time and was supposed to be the holy grail that would establish for ever the authenticity of conductive polymers and this field. Too bad it hasn't turned out this way.
There was never enough "science" in this field. Too much sci-fi and reliance on empirical data rather than precise modeling and ability to predict force! Why, even a basic equation like F=Ma needed to be applied in twisted and convoluted way for such materials.
As a mechanical engineer, I never thought this was going anywhere. After working on this field for two years, I finally left school and got a MS as a consolation. Now I work in the finance industry.
Better pic here of the girl in action: http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?story Id=4527297
Great. Now "Her name is Yoshimi..." running thru my head all evening.
it's a blue bright blue Saturday hey hey
But the girl was totally worth it. ^___________^
17-year-old girl, probably in a sailor suit, beating up robots. Yeah, I think I saw this one.
Right is wrong when left is right.
The robots then retaliated by electrocuting her and hurling battery acid at her.
Disclaimer: I have not RTFA so I don't know who is actually funding this. That said...
The GP poster claimed that this was GOVERNMENT FUNDED research, done through NASA. While it may have been conducted by a private organization, if the funding money came from the government, that means that it came from "We, the people". Therefore, giving ownership of the resultant "intellectual property" (debates on the legitimacy thereof aside) to a particular corporation or individual is robbing "We, the people" from the due returns on our investment, and furthermore, allowing us to be charged twice for it!
We already paid for the R&D, through our tax dollars. The only thing we should have to pay for any application of that R&D are the costs to actually apply it - the production costs. Non-public-domain IP rights for IP which was already funded by the public is a nonsense idea. We already bought it. It belongs to us, collectively. To assign it otherwise is no less than theft (by the RIAA/MPAA definition of the word).
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I'd last 20 seconds longer than the last time I arm-wrestled a girl...
Do what you can, with what you have, where you are.
Any engineer worth there salt could make you a machine that would be able to tear off a human arm within a split second of the match starting. That isn't the point here, I'm saying that the title refers to strength and if you want that from a machine, you got it. Just don't expect intelligence.
oooh... and he gets a -1 Troll from the German Judge!
Linkie.
that's like heart surgeons accidently killing 3 patients in surgery in an attempt to encourage people to enter cardiology.
What's a girl?
Your head a splode
So, in the spirit of female liberation everywhere, let me be the first to say - that little girl is seriously hot. Yowza.
The good and new comes from no quarter where it is looked for, and is always something different from what is expected.
she can be "over my hill" anytime!!
:(
I think I just made myself sad
Her name is Yoshimi
she's a black belt in karate
working for the city
she has to discipline her body
'Cause she knows that
it's demanding
to defeat those evil machines
I know she can beat them
Oh Yoshimi, they don't believe me
but you won't let those robots eat me
Yoshimi, they don't believe me
but you won't let those robots defeat me
Those evil-natured robots
Cheers,they're programmed to destroy us
she's gotta be strong to fight them
so she's taking lots of vitamins
Adolfo
The robots let her win.
This is pretty interesting. A good opportunity to input the goal, vector and some parameters and see what a neural net would try to do with imitation human musculature?
*swoon*
She's only seventeeeennnnnn....
I'm noticing a scary trend in Slashdot (or maybe in humanity in general). Put the word "breast" in an uninteresting poll, and it wins overwhelmingly. Put the words "teenage girl" in an uninteresting story, and it gets over two comments per minute. Imagine how well a product would sell if it used teenage girls and breasts in it's advertisements.
I've noticed that when people arm wrestle, there are a lot of vibrations as peoples' arms shake and strain against the other person pushing them. Micro fluctutations in increases and decreases in power.
Maybe something about her exact rate of acceleration and muscle shaking created some kind of harmonic flutter that the robotic muscles weren't preapred to deal with. Just a hypothesis about why she might have won when presumably other didn't.
It looks like the arm wrestling machine was powered by three penis pumps.
"Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest." - Denis Diderot
Not sure about the lack of strength part, but that heroine expects results. Good luck buying the gas for her 5000000 SUV's. Too bad there are no images of the actual arm wrestling competition.
Your idealism has nothing to do with reality. The government just funds things that it thinks are important to the nation to be developed. Companies that do the work get to patent any developed technologies. The rules for military technologies are probably different, however.
My other first post is car post.
If 17 yr old girls can beat up our robots, what hope do they have in military applications?
She's a black belt in karate :)
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There's loads of pictures of girls taking on several mechanical devices at once! What? ...
"Her name is Yoshimi..."
"A good compromise leaves everyone mad." -Calvin
So...even if I DO save up my paper-route money for the next 5 years, chop off my arms, buy Bi-FREAKIN-onic replacements, I STILL won't be able to beat girls???
Fuuuuuh. How'm I ever supposed to be a man?
Oh, and judging by the article, am I going to have to wait for over 2 minutes while my muscles charge? or juice up? or whatever..."sorry mom, can't take out the garbage just yet, I have to charge the caps in my arms." -- yeah...that'll go over real well...pshhh...it'll get me grounded for sure!
Inject.
but will she fare as well against the robotic tentacles?
Can't wait to be overpowered, perhaps at 69 RPM!
What, did she siphon gas or play the one-eyed bagpipe? Kike Thomas wants to know.
Should have been posted on international women's day! hahaha.
So - QotD - do geeks like girls better or linux?
Windows - high maintanence
OS X - sexy and suave...
Linux - its really sweet of you to help it out...
Unix - hardcore BDSM fanatic
Oh damn, this is slashdot. Sorry - search wikipedia for "GIRL" and then "FRIEND"...
I see. You were saying that it belongs to the people because it was paid for by the government. Well, the government steals from Peter to give to Paul all the time. Get used to it. Welfare, farm subsidies, Social Security, military servitude, et cetera. Just consider it welfare for research workers.
My other first post is car post.
So, a girl from California beats a robot. How is this news?
The Robot arms were from a little known company from los angeles called "Cyberdyne", which sounds familiar to some movie about robots from the future starting a war to humans.... TERMINATOR 2!!!! They are already testing us. thank god they got one of those Amazon women of Hollywood!!!
Does anyone remember the name of the arm wrestling machine they used to have in the arcades? I was born in 1982 and I used to use the thing. I was still in gradeschool so this had to be before 1994 when these machines first entered arcades. I was only in like 5th or 4th grade but I remember the machine being pretty strong. My brother and I use to cheat the machine, I would hold my hand on the armwrest used to detect if your hand is in place, my brother used to both his hands and my other friend used both his hands and we still could not beat the last cpu armwrestler. Does anyone know the name? (I would love to track it down in an arcade and kick its ass now that I am stronger.)
I have a feeling these robots were weaker because they are using newer technologies. If that thing was based on the technology that arcade armwrestling robot used she would have lost.
... why the terminator was so pissed off with Sarah Connor. Not a 900 lb weakling anymore lady.
Bitter and proud of it.
These robots... they look kinda PINK!
..., how exactly does a demonstration go wrong like this?
I would imagine that a decent amount of planning and preparation would go into a demo like this, especially considering how many years this has been in development. But the one chemical-triggered arm was beaten by her because the reaction occurred minutes after the match. Some serious miscommunication must have led to that slip-up. This has been all too familiar lately with our space agency. Yes, I know they didn't develop these prototypes, but they DID setup the contest between the three.
The obvious blunder was not selecting the arms' contestant well. I don't doubt that the companies and the university tested their devices thoroughly and had specific numbers when going into the contest. The two electrically activated arms were simply beaten because too strong a girl was selected (a previous post mentioned she swims/swam). Another possibility is that she was supposed to go easy on the robotic arms to give a good performance, but pride got the best of her. No conspiracy theories here. I think the contest was mostly intended to demonstrate the progress that has been made in the field while using a fun and associable way.
It took Panna nearly half a minute to beat one of the electrical arms. That says a lot for both her AND the arm! I look at this as a remarkably successful demonstration, despite the blunders.
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Ok, I have done some quick searching and found out that the machine is definitely Arm Champs 2, which was released in 1992. It is not the original Arm Champs because I never recall using that arcade cabinet ever.
Anyway, this machine Arm Champs 2 could probably beat those three weak polymer plastic based arm wrestling robots. This new polymer technology is worse than old tech.
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What colour was her hardsuit?
You must think in Russian.
This is actually good news. Now, when someone tells you "you hit like a girl !", you can retort with, "oh yeah ? well you hit like a ROBOT !"
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Where can I get these robot girls? And will they run linux? (just kidding - we all know that there's no such thing as a girl :-) )
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...or did the offer of mere proximity to a living, breathing seventeen-year-old girl cause the robot operators to make the robots lose?
"Maybe if I throw the match in her favor, she'll actually look at me. Or maybe she'll even *talk* to me. *Gasp*, dare I dream she'll use my name in a *sentence?!*"
which only proves that movies are telling nothing but the pure truth when the scientist developing cold fusion is a hot blonde!
remember people, whenever sombody complaints about this, show him the link!
I thought the robot had 3 arms... If that was the case I was going to say "..wait a minute; that's not a 3rd arm!!!!" ;-)
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