That said, a proprietary tool can never be the best for the job if the author/copyright holder is a complete dick.
I get the feeling this guy is really being pushed towards being a dick. He has stated (perhaps falsely) that BM has contributed quite a bit to the linux project (in the form of hardware, software, etc.) and that Stallan is actively biting the feeding hand by copying the BK software.
Stallman actively seeks to destroy anyone that wants to get paid for writing software (he spins it as "no one should be forced to pay for software", "information wants to be free", etc.). Stallman will do anything if it means that his vision of free software (his "final solution" if you will) will be realized.
I have to say I think its much more likely that this guy is an alright guy, he just is facing elimination by the Stallman hordes and it acting to protect his livelyhood.
I don't follow the LKML so I don't know the whole story, but knowing Stallman, I'm pretty sure I'm not far from the actual truth.
I think this means that the Linux crowd is more than just the #2 threat to Microsoft. The fact that they are mentioned by name would probably mean we're the #1 threat
There is a very real chance that I will die from Ebola. I am mentioning it by name, so it must be the #1 threat to my life.
Not bad for a country that only 10 years ago was a crumbling, bankrupt mess with a network infrastructure to match
Taking this into consideration, their system seems pretty natural. Estonia (unlike say the US) is starting their tech infrastructure from scratch. They don't have to deal with ancient systems kludged together with duct-tape or deeply entrenched telcos. If the US had an oppurtunity to start from square one, many of the problems we have wouldn't exist.
This is also a bit like the MS/Linux situation. MS made some bad decisions early, and has to deal with these decisions and peice together work-arounds. Linux was built from nothing, and has the obvious advantage of seeing what mistakes others have made and not repeating them.
As long as Estonia analyzes mistakes others have made and are careful not to repeat history (bad things), they may well end up with an example for all others on how to assemble a tech infrastructure.
My grandparents have and old PC at their house and the moniter has seperate colour inputs. You can unplug any one of the three colors or even mix them around. Instead of the normal orange "It is safe to turn off your PC" I got some sexy green text.
It took years for MS to accomplish, but NT4 is quite stable these days, plus we have all out procedures in place, we have firewall protection, and we've switched to Mozilla, which plugged the biggest remaining security hole.
We'd have no reason to switch at all, if Microsoft weren't trying to force us.
Why do you need to switch? If NT has your needs covered why upgrade at all? Last time I checked, MS hadn't sent out letters saying "YOU CANNOT USE NT ANYMORE. IT IS FORBIDDEN". As you yourself stated, "we're quite happy running NT4".
Jeep stopped producing Wagoneers, but I don't have to return mine to the dealer.
But only if you use "Algorithm 8.0! So easy, anyone can encode!!"
Oh, and with the recent settlement with M$, all your encryption has to be Micrshaft approved. And Time-Warnder approved, so it will search for watermarked video/audio/image content the studio owns.
And they don't wan't to piss off the RIAA or MPAA and lose those keyword contracts, so you cna;t encrypt anyting that has binary content.
Oh, and thanks to the PATRIOT act, any key you generate is backdoored and given to the NSA.
"Reading is the basics for all learning" -- 'President' G.W. Bush
GENTOO USER -1; Can't take a joke
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You're not cool because you can't read documentation.
I am curious to know why Gentoo is cool. Did you write any code? Nope? Hmmmm... Oh wait, I know... You compiled the code. WOW!! That is sooo cool. I can't imagine anything more geeky or hardcore than compiling code other people wrote and tacking a few use flags on a command. That is soo awesome, I don't think I'll ever be that good. I still can't get over it.. You compiled the code for the whole operating system.. You should get an award or a trophy or something, you compiled someone elses code BY YOURSELF!!!!!!
[/sarcasm]
And now, a translation...
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· Score: 2, Funny
I know that every single statement on this list will be made at least once, so I decided to post it to get it all out the way now. Enjoy!
Official Gentoo-Linux-Zealot translator-o-matic
NetBSD rules! Anyway, Gentoo Linux is an interesting new distribution with some great features.
Unfortunately, it has attracted a large number of clueless wannabes who
absolutely MUST advocate Gentoo at every opportunity. Let's look at the
language of these zealots, and find out what it really means...
"Gentoo makes me so much more productive."
"Although I can't use the box at the moment because it's compiling something,
as it will be for the next five days, it gives me more time to check out the
latest USE flags and potentially unstable optimisation settings."
"Gentoo is more in the spirit of open source!"
"Apart from Hello World in Pascal at school, I've never written a single
program in my life or contributed to an open source project, yet staring at
endless streams of GCC output whizzing by somehow helps me contribute to
international freedom."
"I use Gentoo because it's more like the BSDs."
"Last month I tried to install FreeBSD on a well-supported machine, but the
text-based installer scared me off. I've never used a BSD, but the guys on
Slashdot say that it's l33t though, so surely I must be for using Gentoo."
"Heh, my system is soooo much faster after installing Gentoo."
"I've spent hours recompiling Fetchmail, X-Chat, gEdit and thousands of other
programs which spend 99% of their time waiting for user input. Even though
only the kernel and glibc make a significant difference with optimisations,
and RPMs and.debs can be rebuilt with a handful of commands (AND Red Hat
supplies i686 kernel and glibc packages), my box MUST be faster. It's nothing
to do with the fact that I've disabled all startup services and I'm running
BlackBox instead of GNOME or KDE."
"...my Gentoo Linux workstation..."
"...my overclocked AMD eMachines box from PC World, and apart from the
third-grade made-to-break components and dodgy fan..."
"You Red Hat guys must get sick of dependency hell..."
"I'm too stupid to understand that circular dependencies can be resolved
by specifying BOTH.rpms together on the command line, and that problems
hardly ever occur if one uses proper Red Hat packages instead of mixing
SuSE, Mandrake and Joe's Linux packages together (which the system wasn't
designed for)."
"All the other distros are soooo out of date."
"Constantly upgrading to the latest bleeding-edge untested software makes me
more productive. Never mind the extensive testing and patching that Debian and
Red Hat perform on their packages; I've just emerged the latest GNOME beta
snapshot and compiled with -09 -fomit-instructions, and it only crashes once
every few hours."
"Let's face it, Gentoo is the future."
"OK, so no serious business is going to even consider Gentoo in the near
future, and even with proper support and QA in place, it'll still eat up far
too much of a company's valuable time. But this guy I met on #animepr0n is
now using it, so it must be growing!"
The relationship used to be based on mutual gain: we would get movies, they would get money. Everyone won.
Then one side decided to defect from the agreement and stop acting in good faith. They started deploying copy protection schemes. They bought laws to legitimize those schemes and to increase the terms of copyright.
Actually, the comsumers are largely the ones that stopped acting in good faith. Consumers are the ones that downloaded millions of music tracks when Napster was around. Copy-protected CDs came about as a direct result, not of fair-use, but of illegal copying and distribution.
On slashdot the popular cry is "The antiquated business of the xxAA will kill them" and other similar sentiments. If consumers truly want the entertainment industry to go back to mutially beneficial agreements, stop stealing music. If the xxAA didn't know for certain that any un-protected music would be downloaded by millions, they would stop aggressively pursuing new techniques (which requires effort and $$$) and do things the way they did it before. The entire reason the RIAA makes CDs that don't work on computers is because they know damn well that they would be all over Kazaa in about 10 minutes if they didn't.
Both sides of the fair-use table need equal protection. Obviously consumers want to be able to play their CDs in their car or on their PC, but as far as thats concerned, consumers gave up that right when they trampled all over the creators right to profit (copyright) by sharing thousands of files with millions of others. Consumers have in large numbers decided that they don't want to pay for music (their end of the bargain), but are surprised when the the RIAA decides that it has little interest in supporting their side of the deal, offering fair-usable content(non-DRM content, CDs playable on anything). If consumers want fair-use, they need to use media fairly. This doesn't include copying software for friends, this doesn't include sharing music with millions on Kazaa, and it sure as hell doesn't include copying rented DVDs.
5. Declare that customers are no longer an enemy.
Consumers will always (and should always) be considered an enemy by the xxAA when they exploit every single concession and good faith act ever attempted by the media companies. You want an example?? How about the slashdot article regarding the new apple iTunes store?? Probably a third of the comments were about ways to remove the DRM so that the songs could be used illegally (either shared on P2P or for more copies than were purchased). Why should any organization make any attempt to reconcile when the other side has no intent of ever honoring those terms? Consumers don't give a flying fuck if artists and producers ever see a dime, they want free music (hence the slashdot logic "It's better that the artist get no money when I download stuff off KazaA than the 10% the RIAA gives them").
I agree with just about every point you made about benefitting both parties, except that it is not the xxAA that has gone too far, it is the millions of consumers (if you can call them that) that repeatedly break the law and take content that they are not entitled to.
When one side declares war, it insane for their "enemy" to just pretend that nothing is wrong.
Just as equally insane as expecting the xxAA to stand idly by and watch as consumers steal their content. Ethics are indeed alive and well, but not with the "how-can-I-cheat-the-system slashdot crowd"
Imagine a system that runs just a webserver and it's required dependancies, rather than loading graphics drivers and sound drivers, and various other things that wouldn't be required to initialize a network connection and run a webserver. Also, try getting a system like that from Microsoft.
NetBSD rules! Anyway, Gentoo Linux is an interesting new distribution with some great features.
Unfortunately, it has attracted a large number of clueless wannabes who
absolutely MUST advocate Gentoo at every opportunity. Let's look at the
language of these zealots, and find out what it really means...
"Gentoo makes me so much more productive."
"Although I can't use the box at the moment because it's compiling something,
as it will be for the next five days, it gives me more time to check out the
latest USE flags and potentially unstable optimisation settings."
"Gentoo is more in the spirit of open source!"
"Apart from Hello World in Pascal at school, I've never written a single
program in my life or contributed to an open source project, yet staring at
endless streams of GCC output whizzing by somehow helps me contribute to
international freedom."
"I use Gentoo because it's more like the BSDs."
"Last month I tried to install FreeBSD on a well-supported machine, but the
text-based installer scared me off. I've never used a BSD, but the guys on
Slashdot say that it's l33t though, so surely I must be for using Gentoo."
"Heh, my system is soooo much faster after installing Gentoo."
"I've spent hours recompiling Fetchmail, X-Chat, gEdit and thousands of other
programs which spend 99% of their time waiting for user input. Even though
only the kernel and glibc make a significant difference with optimisations,
and RPMs and.debs can be rebuilt with a handful of commands (AND Red Hat
supplies i686 kernel and glibc packages), my box MUST be faster. It's nothing
to do with the fact that I've disabled all startup services and I'm running
BlackBox instead of GNOME or KDE."
"...my Gentoo Linux workstation..."
"...my overclocked AMD eMachines box from PC World, and apart from the
third-grade made-to-break components and dodgy fan..."
"You Red Hat guys must get sick of dependency hell..."
"I'm too stupid to understand that circular dependencies can be resolved
by specifying BOTH.rpms together on the command line, and that problems
hardly ever occur if one uses proper Red Hat packages instead of mixing
SuSE, Mandrake and Joe's Linux packages together (which the system wasn't
designed for)."
"All the other distros are soooo out of date."
"Constantly upgrading to the latest bleeding-edge untested software makes me
more productive. Never mind the extensive testing and patching that Debian and
Red Hat perform on their packages; I've just emerged the latest GNOME beta
snapshot and compiled with -09 -fomit-instructions, and it only crashes once
every few hours."
"Let's face it, Gentoo is the future."
"OK, so no serious business is going to even consider Gentoo in the near
future, and even with proper support and QA in place, it'll still eat up far
too much of a company's valuable time. But this guy I met on #animepr0n is
now using it, so it must be growing!"
Mods, this post isn't actually a troll or flaimbait. Something aweful shows you the "Don't steal" dick picture, but if you just copy and paste the link, it is infact the Iraqi guy talking about DNF
Slashdot Mirror
That said, a proprietary tool can never be the best for the job if the author/copyright holder is a complete dick.
I get the feeling this guy is really being pushed towards being a dick. He has stated (perhaps falsely) that BM has contributed quite a bit to the linux project (in the form of hardware, software, etc.) and that Stallan is actively biting the feeding hand by copying the BK software.
Stallman actively seeks to destroy anyone that wants to get paid for writing software (he spins it as "no one should be forced to pay for software", "information wants to be free", etc.). Stallman will do anything if it means that his vision of free software (his "final solution" if you will) will be realized.
I have to say I think its much more likely that this guy is an alright guy, he just is facing elimination by the Stallman hordes and it acting to protect his livelyhood.
I don't follow the LKML so I don't know the whole story, but knowing Stallman, I'm pretty sure I'm not far from the actual truth.
I think this means that the Linux crowd is more than just the #2 threat to Microsoft. The fact that they are mentioned by name would probably mean we're the #1 threat
There is a very real chance that I will die from Ebola. I am mentioning it by name, so it must be the #1 threat to my life.
Logical fallacy?
Not bad for a country that only 10 years ago was a crumbling, bankrupt mess with a network infrastructure to match
Taking this into consideration, their system seems pretty natural. Estonia (unlike say the US) is starting their tech infrastructure from scratch. They don't have to deal with ancient systems kludged together with duct-tape or deeply entrenched telcos. If the US had an oppurtunity to start from square one, many of the problems we have wouldn't exist.
This is also a bit like the MS/Linux situation. MS made some bad decisions early, and has to deal with these decisions and peice together work-arounds. Linux was built from nothing, and has the obvious advantage of seeing what mistakes others have made and not repeating them.
As long as Estonia analyzes mistakes others have made and are careful not to repeat history (bad things), they may well end up with an example for all others on how to assemble a tech infrastructure.
My grandparents have and old PC at their house and the moniter has seperate colour inputs. You can unplug any one of the three colors or even mix them around. Instead of the normal orange "It is safe to turn off your PC" I got some sexy green text.
It took years for MS to accomplish, but NT4 is quite stable these days, plus we have all out procedures in place, we have firewall protection, and we've switched to Mozilla, which plugged the biggest remaining security hole.
We'd have no reason to switch at all, if Microsoft weren't trying to force us.
Why do you need to switch? If NT has your needs covered why upgrade at all? Last time I checked, MS hadn't sent out letters saying "YOU CANNOT USE NT ANYMORE. IT IS FORBIDDEN". As you yourself stated, "we're quite happy running NT4".
Jeep stopped producing Wagoneers, but I don't have to return mine to the dealer.
But only if you use "Algorithm 8.0! So easy, anyone can encode!!"
Oh, and with the recent settlement with M$, all your encryption has to be Micrshaft approved. And Time-Warnder approved, so it will search for watermarked video/audio/image content the studio owns.
And they don't wan't to piss off the RIAA or MPAA and lose those keyword contracts, so you cna;t encrypt anyting that has binary content.
Oh, and thanks to the PATRIOT act, any key you generate is backdoored and given to the NSA.
"Reading is the basics for all learning" -- 'President' G.W. Bush
The irony of your sig is beautiful.
Eat this smartass - MS windows is about 9 times bigger than all other operating systems combined (in the desktop area).
Where is mac Half-Life?
Is that you R Kelly??
You're not cool because you can't read documentation.
I am curious to know why Gentoo is cool. Did you write any code? Nope? Hmmmm... Oh wait, I know... You compiled the code. WOW!! That is sooo cool. I can't imagine anything more geeky or hardcore than compiling code other people wrote and tacking a few use flags on a command. That is soo awesome, I don't think I'll ever be that good. I still can't get over it.. You compiled the code for the whole operating system.. You should get an award or a trophy or something, you compiled someone elses code BY YOURSELF!!!!!!
[/sarcasm]
Official Gentoo-Linux-Zealot translator-o-matic
NetBSD rules! Anyway, Gentoo Linux is an interesting new distribution with some great features. Unfortunately, it has attracted a large number of clueless wannabes who absolutely MUST advocate Gentoo at every opportunity. Let's look at the language of these zealots, and find out what it really means...
"Gentoo makes me so much more productive."
"Although I can't use the box at the moment because it's compiling something, as it will be for the next five days, it gives me more time to check out the latest USE flags and potentially unstable optimisation settings."
"Gentoo is more in the spirit of open source!"
"Apart from Hello World in Pascal at school, I've never written a single program in my life or contributed to an open source project, yet staring at endless streams of GCC output whizzing by somehow helps me contribute to international freedom."
"I use Gentoo because it's more like the BSDs."
"Last month I tried to install FreeBSD on a well-supported machine, but the text-based installer scared me off. I've never used a BSD, but the guys on Slashdot say that it's l33t though, so surely I must be for using Gentoo."
"Heh, my system is soooo much faster after installing Gentoo." .debs can be rebuilt with a handful of commands (AND Red Hat
supplies i686 kernel and glibc packages), my box MUST be faster. It's nothing
to do with the fact that I've disabled all startup services and I'm running
BlackBox instead of GNOME or KDE."
"I've spent hours recompiling Fetchmail, X-Chat, gEdit and thousands of other programs which spend 99% of their time waiting for user input. Even though only the kernel and glibc make a significant difference with optimisations, and RPMs and
"...my Gentoo Linux workstation..."
"...my overclocked AMD eMachines box from PC World, and apart from the third-grade made-to-break components and dodgy fan..."
"You Red Hat guys must get sick of dependency hell..." .rpms together on the command line, and that problems
hardly ever occur if one uses proper Red Hat packages instead of mixing
SuSE, Mandrake and Joe's Linux packages together (which the system wasn't
designed for)."
"I'm too stupid to understand that circular dependencies can be resolved by specifying BOTH
"All the other distros are soooo out of date."
"Constantly upgrading to the latest bleeding-edge untested software makes me more productive. Never mind the extensive testing and patching that Debian and Red Hat perform on their packages; I've just emerged the latest GNOME beta snapshot and compiled with -09 -fomit-instructions, and it only crashes once every few hours."
"Let's face it, Gentoo is the future."
"OK, so no serious business is going to even consider Gentoo in the near future, and even with proper support and QA in place, it'll still eat up far too much of a company's valuable time. But this guy I met on #animepr0n is now using it, so it must be growing!"
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The relationship used to be based on mutual gain: we would get movies, they would get money. Everyone won.
Then one side decided to defect from the agreement and stop acting in good faith. They started deploying copy protection schemes. They bought laws to legitimize those schemes and to increase the terms of copyright.
Actually, the comsumers are largely the ones that stopped acting in good faith. Consumers are the ones that downloaded millions of music tracks when Napster was around. Copy-protected CDs came about as a direct result, not of fair-use, but of illegal copying and distribution.
On slashdot the popular cry is "The antiquated business of the xxAA will kill them" and other similar sentiments. If consumers truly want the entertainment industry to go back to mutially beneficial agreements, stop stealing music. If the xxAA didn't know for certain that any un-protected music would be downloaded by millions, they would stop aggressively pursuing new techniques (which requires effort and $$$) and do things the way they did it before. The entire reason the RIAA makes CDs that don't work on computers is because they know damn well that they would be all over Kazaa in about 10 minutes if they didn't.
Both sides of the fair-use table need equal protection. Obviously consumers want to be able to play their CDs in their car or on their PC, but as far as thats concerned, consumers gave up that right when they trampled all over the creators right to profit (copyright) by sharing thousands of files with millions of others. Consumers have in large numbers decided that they don't want to pay for music (their end of the bargain), but are surprised when the the RIAA decides that it has little interest in supporting their side of the deal, offering fair-usable content(non-DRM content, CDs playable on anything). If consumers want fair-use, they need to use media fairly. This doesn't include copying software for friends, this doesn't include sharing music with millions on Kazaa, and it sure as hell doesn't include copying rented DVDs.
5. Declare that customers are no longer an enemy.
Consumers will always (and should always) be considered an enemy by the xxAA when they exploit every single concession and good faith act ever attempted by the media companies. You want an example?? How about the slashdot article regarding the new apple iTunes store?? Probably a third of the comments were about ways to remove the DRM so that the songs could be used illegally (either shared on P2P or for more copies than were purchased). Why should any organization make any attempt to reconcile when the other side has no intent of ever honoring those terms? Consumers don't give a flying fuck if artists and producers ever see a dime, they want free music (hence the slashdot logic "It's better that the artist get no money when I download stuff off KazaA than the 10% the RIAA gives them").
I agree with just about every point you made about benefitting both parties, except that it is not the xxAA that has gone too far, it is the millions of consumers (if you can call them that) that repeatedly break the law and take content that they are not entitled to.
When one side declares war, it insane for their "enemy" to just pretend that nothing is wrong.
Just as equally insane as expecting the xxAA to stand idly by and watch as consumers steal their content. Ethics are indeed alive and well, but not with the "how-can-I-cheat-the-system slashdot crowd"
It's hard to say anything bad about the latest release.
How can I change the refresh rate of my moniter in KDE on Knoppix?
Imagine a system that runs just a webserver and it's required dependancies, rather than loading graphics drivers and sound drivers, and various other things that wouldn't be required to initialize a network connection and run a webserver. Also, try getting a system like that from Microsoft.
Embedded Windows??
fundamentalist christian groups who consider that a woman can't choose whether or not to carry a child
or christian fundamentalist groups who consider that a woman should kill the child she conceived...
If the woman didn't want a child (barring rape), she should have used birth control.
Bastard..... You beat me
USA is POWERFUL
NOT Like your PUNY french SURRENDER MONKEY heritage country
You have seen how you WEAKLINGS fell at OUR FEET after abusing our President
By the way, haven't you been WATCHING TV lately?
We WON the WAR.
The enemy was HUMILIATED
America IS BETTER
Microsoft is American
Microsoft ROCKS
opensource is evil and unAmerican
opensource SUCKS
NetBSD rules! Anyway, Gentoo Linux is an interesting new distribution with some great features. Unfortunately, it has attracted a large number of clueless wannabes who absolutely MUST advocate Gentoo at every opportunity. Let's look at the language of these zealots, and find out what it really means...
"Gentoo makes me so much more productive."
"Although I can't use the box at the moment because it's compiling something, as it will be for the next five days, it gives me more time to check out the latest USE flags and potentially unstable optimisation settings."
"Gentoo is more in the spirit of open source!"
"Apart from Hello World in Pascal at school, I've never written a single program in my life or contributed to an open source project, yet staring at endless streams of GCC output whizzing by somehow helps me contribute to international freedom."
"I use Gentoo because it's more like the BSDs."
"Last month I tried to install FreeBSD on a well-supported machine, but the text-based installer scared me off. I've never used a BSD, but the guys on Slashdot say that it's l33t though, so surely I must be for using Gentoo."
"Heh, my system is soooo much faster after installing Gentoo." .debs can be rebuilt with a handful of commands (AND Red Hat
supplies i686 kernel and glibc packages), my box MUST be faster. It's nothing
to do with the fact that I've disabled all startup services and I'm running
BlackBox instead of GNOME or KDE."
"I've spent hours recompiling Fetchmail, X-Chat, gEdit and thousands of other programs which spend 99% of their time waiting for user input. Even though only the kernel and glibc make a significant difference with optimisations, and RPMs and
"...my Gentoo Linux workstation..."
"...my overclocked AMD eMachines box from PC World, and apart from the third-grade made-to-break components and dodgy fan..."
"You Red Hat guys must get sick of dependency hell..." .rpms together on the command line, and that problems
hardly ever occur if one uses proper Red Hat packages instead of mixing
SuSE, Mandrake and Joe's Linux packages together (which the system wasn't
designed for)."
"I'm too stupid to understand that circular dependencies can be resolved by specifying BOTH
"All the other distros are soooo out of date."
"Constantly upgrading to the latest bleeding-edge untested software makes me more productive. Never mind the extensive testing and patching that Debian and Red Hat perform on their packages; I've just emerged the latest GNOME beta snapshot and compiled with -09 -fomit-instructions, and it only crashes once every few hours."
"Let's face it, Gentoo is the future."
"OK, so no serious business is going to even consider Gentoo in the near future, and even with proper support and QA in place, it'll still eat up far too much of a company's valuable time. But this guy I met on #animepr0n is now using it, so it must be growing!"
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Nope, its happening to me too. Still function as links, just they are only 1x1.
Out of curiosity, what were those three questions?
(yes I know the rainbow coalition will mod this as a troll)
Good call. Lighten up gay slashdotters, he's just poking a little fun at your penchant for sodomy and sticking things in your ass.
Mods, this post isn't actually a troll or flaimbait. Something aweful shows you the "Don't steal" dick picture, but if you just copy and paste the link, it is infact the Iraqi guy talking about DNF
Maybe you should tell these people
Nope, you have to buy Duke3D to get the game data... Seems you just get the engine via GPL..
The Sims?