Mozilla browser battles Microsoft Critical component of an open Internet?
NEW YORK (AP) -- A Web browser project run primarily by volunteers and backed by America Online is making one last stab at challenging the dominance of Microsoft Corp.
The group released its Mozilla 1.0 package this month -- some four years after AOL's Netscape unit launched the project. (AOL Time Warner is the parent company of CNN.com.)
And while analysts aren't sanguine about the browser's prospects, there is excitement among those who believe Mozilla's real strength lies in its versatility and potential for gadgets such as wireless devices where Microsoft is not yet dominant.
"Internet technology is (being) transformed into a privatized world, developed and run for the benefit of a small number of vendors," said Mitchell Baker, the project's general manager. "Mozilla is a critical component of keeping the Web open and allowing innovation."
Microsoft's Internet Explorer now has a global usage share among browsers of 93 percent, up from 87 percent last year and 67 percent in 1999, according to WebSideStory's StatMarket.
Netscape's current share is less than 6 percent, with the remainder using Opera and other browsers.
Mozilla may thrill some tech-savvy users, "but it's not going to make a dent with the mainstream," said WebSideStory's Geoff Johnston, unless, that is, AOL Time Warner puts major marketing muscle behind it.
AOL is using Mozilla in newer Netscape browsers, including the 7.0 version now available as a preview release. The company is also testing Gecko, the Mozilla component that displays content on a screen, for its flagship AOL service, which now runs on Internet Explorer.
Microsoft declined comment on how much of a threat it considers Mozilla, saying it cannot speak on rival products.
The Mozilla project began in 1998 when then-independent Netscape shifted its browser strategy to better compete with Microsoft. Netscape released its source code, or software blueprint, to the public and encouraged developers to offer improvements.
Several months into the project, the Mozilla team decided to scrap the Netscape code and start from scratch to create a modern software platform on which to build many applications -- not just browsers. Beyond the browser
In early 1999, AOL acquired Netscape.
Now that Mozilla 1.0 is finally done, it's available for download at www.mozilla.org. But there's no Mozilla help desk for users.
The focus instead will be on assisting developers, such as Netscape and Red Hat Inc., who can package and ship products and offer support to users.
The power of Mozilla, which got its name from Netscape's dinosaur-like mascot, is its open-source nature. Users who can't get satisfaction from existing browsers can adapt Mozilla themselves. Versions are being developed for Internet kiosks, game consoles and cable television set-top boxes.
Because of its modular build, Mozilla can be the ground floor for myriad unbrowserlike applications: games, desktop calculators, music-video players, word processors.
"We really are building an Internet operating system at this point," said Tim O'Reilly, a technical publisher and leading advocate of open-source software. "Components of Mozilla are useful parts of that framework."
Andrew Mutch helps develop and uses a version called K-Meleon in the Waterford Township, Michigan, public library, where he is systems technician.
He says other browsers don't let him turn off features the way K-Meleon does, making them difficult to manage in multiple-user settings. 'Room to grow'
WorldGate Communications Inc., which makes systems for interactive television, is customizing Mozilla for set-top devices, preferring it to proprietary software from potential competitors.
"We need to be independent enough that we can set our own course and not be beholden to someone else's priorities and schedules," said Gerard Kunkel, WorldGate's president.
The Mozilla team officially makes versions for Macintosh and the open-source Linux, and volunteers translate it to several other systems. Versions are planned in at least 38 languages.
In some respects, Mozilla will compete head-to-head with Opera, another popular browser within a niche, tech-savvy community. Both browsers, for example, share such features as a pop-up ad blocker.
Opera chief executive Jon S. von Tetzchner isn't worried about the competition. With 1 million new installations of Opera each month, both have room to grow, he says.
Mozilla's Baker insists the project's success is critical to the Web's future: "If there's only one browser and that browser is tied to the business plan of a particular entity, it's quite likely that what we see on the Web will be limited."
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bombshell hit the already beleaguered *Con community when IDC confirmed that *Con
market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of
all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states
that *Con has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've
known all along. *Con is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by
failing dead last [samag.com] [samag.com]
in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to
be a Kreskin [amdest.com] [amdest.com] to predict *Con's
future. The hand writing is on the wall: *Con faces a bleak future. In fact there won't
be any future at all for *Con because *Con is dying. Things are looking very
bad for *Con. As many of us are already aware, *Con continues to lose market share. Red
ink flows like a river of blood.
ApacheCon is the most endangered of them
all, having lost 93% of its core attendees. The sudden and unpleasant
departures of long time *Con developers Jordan "The Bad One" Hibbard and MacDaddy Smith only
serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt:
ApacheCon is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
ApacheCon leader ThreePeo states that there are 7000 attendees of ApacheCon. How
many attendees of BiMonSciFiCon are there? Let's see. The number of ApacheCon
versus BiMonSciFiCon posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore
there are about 7000/5 = 1400 BiMonSciFiCon attendees. Con/OS posts on Usenet are
about half of the volume of BiMonSciFiCon posts. Therefore there are about 700
attendees of Con/OS. A recent article put ApacheCon at about 80 percent of the
*Con market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 ApacheCon attendees.
This is consistent with the number of ApacheCon hooker sales.
Due to the
troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, ApacheCon went out of
business and was taken over by IISCon who sell another troubled server. Now
BiMonSciFiCon is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *Con has steadily declined in market share.
*Con is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *Con
is to survive at all it will be among Con dilettante attendees. *Con continues
to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For
all practical purposes, ApacheCon is dead.
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Mozilla browser battles Microsoft
Critical component of an open Internet?
NEW YORK (AP) -- A Web browser project run primarily by volunteers and backed by America Online is making one last stab at challenging the dominance of Microsoft Corp.
The group released its Mozilla 1.0 package this month -- some four years after AOL's Netscape unit launched the project. (AOL Time Warner is the parent company of CNN.com.)
And while analysts aren't sanguine about the browser's prospects, there is excitement among those who believe Mozilla's real strength lies in its versatility and potential for gadgets such as wireless devices where Microsoft is not yet dominant.
"Internet technology is (being) transformed into a privatized world, developed and run for the benefit of a small number of vendors," said Mitchell Baker, the project's general manager. "Mozilla is a critical component of keeping the Web open and allowing innovation."
Microsoft's Internet Explorer now has a global usage share among browsers of 93 percent, up from 87 percent last year and 67 percent in 1999, according to WebSideStory's StatMarket.
Netscape's current share is less than 6 percent, with the remainder using Opera and other browsers.
Mozilla may thrill some tech-savvy users, "but it's not going to make a dent with the mainstream," said WebSideStory's Geoff Johnston, unless, that is, AOL Time Warner puts major marketing muscle behind it.
AOL is using Mozilla in newer Netscape browsers, including the 7.0 version now available as a preview release. The company is also testing Gecko, the Mozilla component that displays content on a screen, for its flagship AOL service, which now runs on Internet Explorer.
Microsoft declined comment on how much of a threat it considers Mozilla, saying it cannot speak on rival products.
The Mozilla project began in 1998 when then-independent Netscape shifted its browser strategy to better compete with Microsoft. Netscape released its source code, or software blueprint, to the public and encouraged developers to offer improvements.
Several months into the project, the Mozilla team decided to scrap the Netscape code and start from scratch to create a modern software platform on which to build many applications -- not just browsers.
Beyond the browser
In early 1999, AOL acquired Netscape.
Now that Mozilla 1.0 is finally done, it's available for download at www.mozilla.org. But there's no Mozilla help desk for users.
The focus instead will be on assisting developers, such as Netscape and Red Hat Inc., who can package and ship products and offer support to users.
The power of Mozilla, which got its name from Netscape's dinosaur-like mascot, is its open-source nature. Users who can't get satisfaction from existing browsers can adapt Mozilla themselves. Versions are being developed for Internet kiosks, game consoles and cable television set-top boxes.
Because of its modular build, Mozilla can be the ground floor for myriad unbrowserlike applications: games, desktop calculators, music-video players, word processors.
"We really are building an Internet operating system at this point," said Tim O'Reilly, a technical publisher and leading advocate of open-source software. "Components of Mozilla are useful parts of that framework."
Andrew Mutch helps develop and uses a version called K-Meleon in the Waterford Township, Michigan, public library, where he is systems technician.
He says other browsers don't let him turn off features the way K-Meleon does, making them difficult to manage in multiple-user settings.
'Room to grow'
WorldGate Communications Inc., which makes systems for interactive television, is customizing Mozilla for set-top devices, preferring it to proprietary software from potential competitors.
"We need to be independent enough that we can set our own course and not be beholden to someone else's priorities and schedules," said Gerard Kunkel, WorldGate's president.
The Mozilla team officially makes versions for Macintosh and the open-source Linux, and volunteers translate it to several other systems. Versions are planned in at least 38 languages.
In some respects, Mozilla will compete head-to-head with Opera, another popular browser within a niche, tech-savvy community. Both browsers, for example, share such features as a pop-up ad blocker.
Opera chief executive Jon S. von Tetzchner isn't worried about the competition. With 1 million new installations of Opera each month, both have room to grow, he says.
Mozilla's Baker insists the project's success is critical to the Web's future: "If there's only one browser and that browser is tied to the business plan of a particular entity, it's quite likely that what we see on the Web will be limited."
This story has been up for 5 days and so far, only 5 posts (if you include this one.) And there all TROLLS.
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Losers. (Myself included)
BTW, where in the good god damn are the smooth fonts?????
Alaska sucks, as does you. In reference to cock, that is.
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One more crippling bombshell hit the already beleaguered *Con community when IDC confirmed that *Con market share has dropped yet again, now down to less than a fraction of 1 percent of all servers. Coming on the heels of a recent Netcraft survey which plainly states that *Con has lost more market share, this news serves to reinforce what we've known all along. *Con is collapsing in complete disarray, as fittingly exemplified by failing dead last [samag.com] [samag.com] in the recent Sys Admin comprehensive networking test.
You don't need to be a Kreskin [amdest.com] [amdest.com] to predict *Con's future. The hand writing is on the wall: *Con faces a bleak future. In fact there won't be any future at all for *Con because *Con is dying. Things are looking very bad for *Con. As many of us are already aware, *Con continues to lose market share. Red ink flows like a river of blood.
ApacheCon is the most endangered of them all, having lost 93% of its core attendees. The sudden and unpleasant departures of long time *Con developers Jordan "The Bad One" Hibbard and MacDaddy Smith only serve to underscore the point more clearly. There can no longer be any doubt: ApacheCon is dying.
Let's keep to the facts and look at the numbers.
ApacheCon leader ThreePeo states that there are 7000 attendees of ApacheCon. How many attendees of BiMonSciFiCon are there? Let's see. The number of ApacheCon versus BiMonSciFiCon posts on Usenet is roughly in ratio of 5 to 1. Therefore there are about 7000/5 = 1400 BiMonSciFiCon attendees. Con/OS posts on Usenet are about half of the volume of BiMonSciFiCon posts. Therefore there are about 700 attendees of Con/OS. A recent article put ApacheCon at about 80 percent of the *Con market. Therefore there are (7000+1400+700)*4 = 36400 ApacheCon attendees. This is consistent with the number of ApacheCon hooker sales.
Due to the troubles of Walnut Creek, abysmal sales and so on, ApacheCon went out of business and was taken over by IISCon who sell another troubled server. Now BiMonSciFiCon is also dead, its corpse turned over to yet another charnel house.
All major surveys show that *Con has steadily declined in market share. *Con is very sick and its long term survival prospects are very dim. If *Con is to survive at all it will be among Con dilettante attendees. *Con continues to decay. Nothing short of a miracle could save it at this point in time. For all practical purposes, ApacheCon is dead.
Fact: *Con is dying
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Yes, yes I am. It's pretty boring around here nowadays. I do this to pass the time. By the way, the 't' in slasdot is for 'troll'. By the way, I am going to mod slap you for such a stupid question.
When all my linii boxen get virri. After reinstalling, I have to edit all my confii.
I think you mean:
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'pulled a chris_d' ?
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