Good lord this is goofy........a lot of people prefer the Palm OS because of its stability and elegance. A lot of people also like the incredibly small form factor of the Tungsten T, which is quite stunning. It's screen is also beautiful.
Regarding the Dell Axim, I can't imagine anyone lusting after a Dell Axim, at least not until after there are serious reviews of it, reports on battery life (is this another PocketPC device which only gets a couple of hours of battery life?), build quality, etc.
I've pondered it but not for very long. First off, after playing around with the Tungsten T and the new Sony OS 5 devices, I'm quite impressed with where the platform is going.
Secondly, the user interface and software selection is important to me. I find the Palm interface and most Palm apps to be very elegant. Although PocketPC 2002 is better than previous Windows CE incarnations I still find it to be overly complex and require too many taps to do anything, not to mention a lot of unnecessary clutter and still too much attempt to be "Windows-like".
Battery life is also an issue for me, and the 1-3 hour battery lifes on these things makes them unattractive.....frankly this is the main reason I haven't been interested in Sony's Palm OS models either, as their battery life isn't too hot.
I do see my handheld as more than a PIM, which is one reason I love the extensive software library of the Palm, and I'm excited by the prospects brought to the Palm platform now that OS 5 is officially out, hi-res screens are the standard, and it is on the ARM platform.
What in the world are people doing with their Pocket PC's that it even matters whether its a 200 MHz or 400 MHz processor? Unless you're planning on using it to run weird stuff like ports of Quake, why does it possibly matter. Even the 200 MHz models can play video and music files.
This one is really just baffling to me.
Besides that, last I heard the current crop of Pocket PC's didn't even take advantage of the faster processor anyway, because Pocket PC 2002 isn't optimized for it.
I just wanted to comment on your "which is why the Newton failed" comment. The Newton was NOT a glorified minilaptop.....the Newton had an incredibly advanced operating system that was designed from the ground up for handheld use, with a lot of thought put into how data was stored and accessed, the GUI, and real handwriting recognition.
As far as why the Newton "failed", there are any number of reasons, including cost (as great as the Newton 2000 and 2100 were, costs were also still in the $999 range) which is part of what made PalmPilots so attractive comparitively....size was also certainly a factor....the Newton's size was great when you were using it because it was nice to have the large screen to work with, but when carrying it a lot of people preferred the small form factor of the PalmPilot. Also, the argument can be made that people just weren't ready for PDA's at the time.
Finally, I would question whether "failed" is the right term to use for the Newton. There were plenty of other PDA's which DID fail and are completely forgotten. The fact is that the Newton is still an active platform, with people still developing software for it and coming up with new uses for it.....and many people have pointed out that even though the Newton was officially killed off 5 years ago, it STILL works better than many modern PDA's, which is why there is still a healthy group of Newton users that still use their Newtons.
Hopefully at some point the other Newton technologies will make a comeback. Apple must have had some reason for adding the Ink handwriting technology (based on Newton's handwriting recognition) to OS X, and I have to think there was more to it than just letting people with graphics tablets be able to enter text without having to use their keyboards.
Yeah....most likely if you read a single issue it might have been from the current series, which is volume 2.
The trade paperback (also available in hard cover) collects the first series. I think that the first three issues of volume 2 are out, with issue #4 coming out on December 26th and issue 5 coming out on January 15th.
-Tom
Hrmm, was this the first issue of the first series, or an issue of the current series (volume 2)?
If not, you may want to pick up the trade paperback of League of Extraordinary Gentelemen volume 1 so you can see the whole thing.
-Tom
Saving the comic book industry? Have you been paying attention to the comic book industry lately? It's in some of the worst shape ever. Trade paperbacks and specialized graphic novels are probably the only thing keeping anything afloat.
This is patently ridiculous.........first off, both Steve Ditko AND Jack Kirby contributed to the look and design and idea of Spider-Man (which, honestly, is one of the biggest)
Using that Stan Lee's Mutants, Monsters and Marvels thing as evidence is a bit much, considering how much of a fanboy Kevin Smith is about Stan Lee, and that that whole project was done to make him look as good as possible.
This notion about Steve Ditko "raising a ruckus" is ridiculous, as nothing in his personality indicates he would ever do that. In fact Steve Ditko himself basically didn't care about how Marvel treated him, but other people fought to get it.
And your implication that Ditko didn't deserve the co-creator credit is ridiculous. Steve Ditko's artwork when Spider-Man began was some of the most influential ever (pick up one of Marvel's trade paperbacks reprinting the early Spider-Man issues and you will see), especially with the art on the webslinging through the air.
Oh yeah, and Steve Ditko also did most of the real writing and storytelling on those early issues.....Stan Lee usually contributed some basic ideas and dialogue (you can normally recognize Stan Lee plots and dialogue by how ridiculous they are) but Ditko really fleshed out most of the early stories.
And again, don't forget Jack Kirby's influence on Spider-Man, as he apparently had a lot to do as well with the look of Spider-Man.
Honestly, Stan Lee's main contribution seemed to be coming up with the idea of a character with spider powers. But Stan Lee's ability to create original and compelling characters on his own seems really questionable.
This whole case seems funny to me because everyone is going "oh, poor Stan Lee, he's being so mistreated by Marvel", when at the same time, Marvel under Stan Lee's watch regularly ignored people like Ditko and Jack Kirby and Stan Lee persisted for decades in taking sole credit for things that other creators played a big part in.
-Tom
That's an interesting example but completely irrelevant to the point I was making, that Palm's Engineers DID take this issue of the sliding mechanism to account and made sure it passed a 100,000 cycle stress test.
Regarding the screen on the Palm III, I haven't heard too much of this, but clearly that isn't a problem with more recent Palm models (and the Palm III is quite an old model), so it seems pretty clear they have resolved that as well.
-Tom
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Let me guess, you think that the engineers at Palm who designed the Tungsten just added the sliding mechanism without any thought to this very issue?
"Palm realizes that this design decision is a potential source of failure (and therefore costly warranty issues) and has taken pains to ensure that it will be very reliable. Part of their design criteria included passing a 100,000 open/close test cycle. (To put that in practical terms, even if you open and close the device 3 times an hour, 16 hours a day, the slider should provide at least 6 years of faithful service.)"
I'm not sure about the Sharp Zaurus but I wouldn't be surprised if they did something similar. I think some people like to think they are smarter than the engineers who design this hardware, but it is baffling to me to think that you would really believe that the people at Palm would design that sliding mechanism on the Tungsten T without even thinking about the issue of how much stress it would handle.
The similarities they share are common elements of many Atlantis stories throughout the ages, the specific links between the two are iffy at best.
Is there some rule that Disney can't tell a story (based on an ancient story itself) if a Japanese animation company has already told a story on the subject? Does that make any sense? Does this also mean that no other Japanese animation studio can tell a story with elements from 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and/or Atlantis? Does that make any sense at all?
Yes. And just about every Japanese animation studio rips off their stories at least occasionally from other work (oftentimes from other Japanese creators). What's the point? This has been going on with storytelling for millennia.
It depends on your definition of anime. The Japanese would call it anime since they call any animation "anime". Some anime fans use anime to refer to anything animated in Japan, so Transformers would still qualify. However, some people only define anime as that which is completely done by the Japanese, so they wouldn't count Transformers since although it was animated in Japan, it was written and acted by Americans.
It sounds like you are hunting out the wrong anime then......it very clearly
Regarding the Gundam series, you mentioned the animation on the newer ones being "jaw dropping" and the stories "convoluted and ridiculous", but which ones did you have in mind? If you meant Gundam Wing and G Gundam, then yes. But if you meant the more recent series, Turn A Gundam, I'd wonder about this, as I think it has one of the best stories I've ever seen (I can only think someone would find the plot convoluted if they watched it with the terrible subtitles from the bootleg release of it, since it was never fansubbed). Your kids in giant mech suits comment makes me think you are talking about Gundam Wing.
Also, just to clarify, if you saw Robotech, G-Force and StarBlazers in the 80's, those were ok, but they were not the same as experiencing the original animation.....many had significant story changes and edits, etc. that changed their tone and impact....Robotech in particular. Was hard to tell where you were on this one since you didn't mention subsequently if you ever saw the original shows like Macross, Gatchaman and Space Battleship Yamato.
Anyway though, your comment that all anime you see has the same character stereotypes definitely makes it sound like you are only looking at some specific shows that are cliched, and perhaps missing or ignoring some of the more original and interesting shows that come out each year.
Some new stuff I can recommend coming out in the US recently are Now And Then Here And There, Gasaraki, Niea_7, Boogiepop Phantom, FLCL, Berserk, You're Under Arrest, GTO, Crest of the Stars (and the sequel series Banner of the Stars coming out soon)Revolutionary Girl Utena, Kurogane Communication, His and Her Circumstances.
These are excellent shows which are just recently coming out in the US, and none of them really feature the cliches and stereotypical character archetypes you mentioned......I think there is no reason for you to be jaded, just that you have gotten tired of certain kinds of anime (which many people have gotten tired of, the same reason that many of the tried and true staples of anime don't have nearly the same impact they might have had at an earlier time).
Although two exceptions I think will be the upcoming Macross Zero OVA (the first episode of which debuts in Japan in December...Macross was the series that the first arc of Robotech took footage and story elements from) and the upcoming 52 episode epic Great Yamato Arc, the latest series in the Space Battleship Yamato series (the one that StarBlazers was made from)
-Tom
Discussion On The State of Anime Fandom In Japan
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This was a very interesting discussion thread that occurred on animeondvd.com recently that I think people would do well to read through, as it contains some very interesting information:
Regarding some of the general comments people are making, they seem a bit extreme on both ends, which I guess is to be expected.....both the people saying "anime sucks, it's all porn" and the people who say that "anime rules, it's the only thing that has real plot and characterization and isn't tainted by commercialization like American stuff is" are both equally ridiculous statements. Anime in fact isn't all porn, and like any other medium it has had its share of good stuff as well as a lot of bad shows. And of course, the notion some extreme anime fans have that anime is good because it isn't commercialized is ridiculous, as anime is heavily commercialized, and many shows are made solely based on how well they will sell, which is why you often see a lot of recycled plots, character designs and story concepts.
Just in general, anime is way too broad for I think many of the comments being made here to be very relevant....it has its share of crap and its share of brilliant work. I could say the same thing about movies, television, books, comic books, etc.......take almost any of the comments being made in this thread and replace "anime" with "movies", "television", "books", "comic books" etc. and perhaps this will give you a better indication of how ridiculous some of the statements are.
Anime is not all stale and recycled plots, and it is not all the same big eye style of animation......a few shows that wouldn't fit this mold would include Boogiepop Phantom, Niea_7, Now And Then Here And There, etc. If I had to guess I would say that a lot of the negative comments are being made by people with a very limited exposure to only certain kinds of anime, which would be about on par with making a value judgement on "movies" after watching some pornography tapes.
Get your facts straight. Nadia and Kimba the White Lion were not done by the same studios.
More specifically, the similarities between Nadia and Atlantis have to do with the fact that BOTH are "ripped off" from the same source material, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, and they both generally lift from the same Atlantic myths.
I've been hearing some of the same ignorant claptrap that Treasure Planet is a "ripoff" of the anime Outlaw Star because it features pirates in space, and because Outlaw Star had a character named Jim Hawking (whose name, btw, was a combination of Jim Hawkins from Treasure Island and Stephen Hawking, the scientist).....while ignoring the fact that BOTH are based on similar source material, the novel Treasure Island.
Also, the Nadia situation is a lot more complex, as it was originally something Miyazaki (of Studio Ghibli fame) was going to work on, and it didn't pan out....not coincedentally, the similarities between Gainax's Nadia and Studio Ghibli's movie Laputa: Castle in the Sky...read more about it here.
The Lion King/Kimba the White Lion stuff is more blatant, but that is a different issue.
-Tom
Is there a link, the only thing that comes up on avon.com is that 10 in 1 atari joystick linked in the article. I'd definitely kill for one of these with activision games.
-Tom
$19,500 for a phone? I assume this site is a joke.....
Either that or this is a product for people who just like to be assholes about flaunting whatever they have overpaid for.
-Tom
Hrmm....I thought what killed their competitors was a) awful battery life on the color handheld systems and b) a lot of mediocre software. People kept buying gameboys because of its excellent software library and that you could play it for more than 2-6 hours before the batteries died out.
I think people may be jumping to conclusions too quickly about CN and their plans for anime.
A lot of the early reports on this seem to come from the mediaweek article, which had some serious factual errors.
I would wait and see for more announcements from Cartoon Network on actual programming.
We already know that Cartoon Network will be debuting two new anime TV shows....The Big O season 2 and the new TV series Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex in the next few months.
Most likely shows will be shifted in and out of the lineup. But it doesn't mean that any shows are necessarily permanently cancelled (current shows like Ripping Friends and the Oblongs have limited episode counts and can't be re-run endlessly).....it's also not definite that Cowboy Bebop and Inuyasha will be airing every night of the adult swim block, more likely they will shift things so multiple shows are showing on different days of the week.
Anyway, just not a good idea to jump to conclusions, as clearly there still isn't a whole lot of information out there.
Apparently the main reason the saturday block was cut was because it was getting good ratings but mainly from younger kids, who are able to stay up later on saturday nights, and CN isn't looking for kids in their ratings for the Adult Swim programming.
-Tom
If you have a Mac, and open the box for it, you will notice that you have three Mac OS Up To Date Coupons (I have an iBook with coupons that say I bought my iBook with OS 9.2 and OS X 10.1 installed. There are three coupons and when you use them you only have to pay $20 for the upgrade, not the full retail price.
I don't see what people are getting so worked up about. When I bought my Dell with Windows ME preinstalled, I had to pay full price to get Windows XP for it. This is a heck of a lot better.
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Regarding the Dell Axim, I can't imagine anyone lusting after a Dell Axim, at least not until after there are serious reviews of it, reports on battery life (is this another PocketPC device which only gets a couple of hours of battery life?), build quality, etc.
-Tom
Secondly, the user interface and software selection is important to me. I find the Palm interface and most Palm apps to be very elegant. Although PocketPC 2002 is better than previous Windows CE incarnations I still find it to be overly complex and require too many taps to do anything, not to mention a lot of unnecessary clutter and still too much attempt to be "Windows-like".
Battery life is also an issue for me, and the 1-3 hour battery lifes on these things makes them unattractive.....frankly this is the main reason I haven't been interested in Sony's Palm OS models either, as their battery life isn't too hot.
I do see my handheld as more than a PIM, which is one reason I love the extensive software library of the Palm, and I'm excited by the prospects brought to the Palm platform now that OS 5 is officially out, hi-res screens are the standard, and it is on the ARM platform.
-Tom
What in the world are people doing with their Pocket PC's that it even matters whether its a 200 MHz or 400 MHz processor? Unless you're planning on using it to run weird stuff like ports of Quake, why does it possibly matter. Even the 200 MHz models can play video and music files.
This one is really just baffling to me.
Besides that, last I heard the current crop of Pocket PC's didn't even take advantage of the faster processor anyway, because Pocket PC 2002 isn't optimized for it.
-Tom
As far as why the Newton "failed", there are any number of reasons, including cost (as great as the Newton 2000 and 2100 were, costs were also still in the $999 range) which is part of what made PalmPilots so attractive comparitively....size was also certainly a factor....the Newton's size was great when you were using it because it was nice to have the large screen to work with, but when carrying it a lot of people preferred the small form factor of the PalmPilot. Also, the argument can be made that people just weren't ready for PDA's at the time.
Finally, I would question whether "failed" is the right term to use for the Newton. There were plenty of other PDA's which DID fail and are completely forgotten. The fact is that the Newton is still an active platform, with people still developing software for it and coming up with new uses for it.....and many people have pointed out that even though the Newton was officially killed off 5 years ago, it STILL works better than many modern PDA's, which is why there is still a healthy group of Newton users that still use their Newtons.
Hopefully at some point the other Newton technologies will make a comeback. Apple must have had some reason for adding the Ink handwriting technology (based on Newton's handwriting recognition) to OS X, and I have to think there was more to it than just letting people with graphics tablets be able to enter text without having to use their keyboards.
-Tom
Yeah....most likely if you read a single issue it might have been from the current series, which is volume 2. The trade paperback (also available in hard cover) collects the first series. I think that the first three issues of volume 2 are out, with issue #4 coming out on December 26th and issue 5 coming out on January 15th. -Tom
Hrmm, was this the first issue of the first series, or an issue of the current series (volume 2)? If not, you may want to pick up the trade paperback of League of Extraordinary Gentelemen volume 1 so you can see the whole thing. -Tom
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This is patently ridiculous.........first off, both Steve Ditko AND Jack Kirby contributed to the look and design and idea of Spider-Man (which, honestly, is one of the biggest) Using that Stan Lee's Mutants, Monsters and Marvels thing as evidence is a bit much, considering how much of a fanboy Kevin Smith is about Stan Lee, and that that whole project was done to make him look as good as possible. This notion about Steve Ditko "raising a ruckus" is ridiculous, as nothing in his personality indicates he would ever do that. In fact Steve Ditko himself basically didn't care about how Marvel treated him, but other people fought to get it. And your implication that Ditko didn't deserve the co-creator credit is ridiculous. Steve Ditko's artwork when Spider-Man began was some of the most influential ever (pick up one of Marvel's trade paperbacks reprinting the early Spider-Man issues and you will see), especially with the art on the webslinging through the air. Oh yeah, and Steve Ditko also did most of the real writing and storytelling on those early issues.....Stan Lee usually contributed some basic ideas and dialogue (you can normally recognize Stan Lee plots and dialogue by how ridiculous they are) but Ditko really fleshed out most of the early stories. And again, don't forget Jack Kirby's influence on Spider-Man, as he apparently had a lot to do as well with the look of Spider-Man. Honestly, Stan Lee's main contribution seemed to be coming up with the idea of a character with spider powers. But Stan Lee's ability to create original and compelling characters on his own seems really questionable. This whole case seems funny to me because everyone is going "oh, poor Stan Lee, he's being so mistreated by Marvel", when at the same time, Marvel under Stan Lee's watch regularly ignored people like Ditko and Jack Kirby and Stan Lee persisted for decades in taking sole credit for things that other creators played a big part in. -Tom
Regarding the screen on the Palm III, I haven't heard too much of this, but clearly that isn't a problem with more recent Palm models (and the Palm III is quite an old model), so it seems pretty clear they have resolved that as well.
-Tom
No, in fact, check out this detail from Palm Infocenter's Review of the Tungsten T:
"Palm realizes that this design decision is a potential source of failure (and therefore costly warranty issues) and has taken pains to ensure that it will be very reliable. Part of their design criteria included passing a 100,000 open/close test cycle. (To put that in practical terms, even if you open and close the device 3 times an hour, 16 hours a day, the slider should provide at least 6 years of faithful service.)"
I'm not sure about the Sharp Zaurus but I wouldn't be surprised if they did something similar. I think some people like to think they are smarter than the engineers who design this hardware, but it is baffling to me to think that you would really believe that the people at Palm would design that sliding mechanism on the Tungsten T without even thinking about the issue of how much stress it would handle.
-Tom
Is there some rule that Disney can't tell a story (based on an ancient story itself) if a Japanese animation company has already told a story on the subject? Does that make any sense? Does this also mean that no other Japanese animation studio can tell a story with elements from 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea and/or Atlantis? Does that make any sense at all?
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Also, just to clarify, if you saw Robotech, G-Force and StarBlazers in the 80's, those were ok, but they were not the same as experiencing the original animation.....many had significant story changes and edits, etc. that changed their tone and impact....Robotech in particular. Was hard to tell where you were on this one since you didn't mention subsequently if you ever saw the original shows like Macross, Gatchaman and Space Battleship Yamato.
Anyway though, your comment that all anime you see has the same character stereotypes definitely makes it sound like you are only looking at some specific shows that are cliched, and perhaps missing or ignoring some of the more original and interesting shows that come out each year.
Some new stuff I can recommend coming out in the US recently are Now And Then Here And There, Gasaraki, Niea_7, Boogiepop Phantom, FLCL, Berserk, You're Under Arrest, GTO, Crest of the Stars (and the sequel series Banner of the Stars coming out soon)Revolutionary Girl Utena, Kurogane Communication, His and Her Circumstances.
These are excellent shows which are just recently coming out in the US, and none of them really feature the cliches and stereotypical character archetypes you mentioned......I think there is no reason for you to be jaded, just that you have gotten tired of certain kinds of anime (which many people have gotten tired of, the same reason that many of the tried and true staples of anime don't have nearly the same impact they might have had at an earlier time).
Although two exceptions I think will be the upcoming Macross Zero OVA (the first episode of which debuts in Japan in December...Macross was the series that the first arc of Robotech took footage and story elements from) and the upcoming 52 episode epic Great Yamato Arc, the latest series in the Space Battleship Yamato series (the one that StarBlazers was made from)
-Tom
The State of Anime Fandom in Japan
Regarding some of the general comments people are making, they seem a bit extreme on both ends, which I guess is to be expected.....both the people saying "anime sucks, it's all porn" and the people who say that "anime rules, it's the only thing that has real plot and characterization and isn't tainted by commercialization like American stuff is" are both equally ridiculous statements. Anime in fact isn't all porn, and like any other medium it has had its share of good stuff as well as a lot of bad shows. And of course, the notion some extreme anime fans have that anime is good because it isn't commercialized is ridiculous, as anime is heavily commercialized, and many shows are made solely based on how well they will sell, which is why you often see a lot of recycled plots, character designs and story concepts.
Just in general, anime is way too broad for I think many of the comments being made here to be very relevant....it has its share of crap and its share of brilliant work. I could say the same thing about movies, television, books, comic books, etc.......take almost any of the comments being made in this thread and replace "anime" with "movies", "television", "books", "comic books" etc. and perhaps this will give you a better indication of how ridiculous some of the statements are.
Anime is not all stale and recycled plots, and it is not all the same big eye style of animation......a few shows that wouldn't fit this mold would include Boogiepop Phantom, Niea_7, Now And Then Here And There, etc. If I had to guess I would say that a lot of the negative comments are being made by people with a very limited exposure to only certain kinds of anime, which would be about on par with making a value judgement on "movies" after watching some pornography tapes.
Tom
Get your facts straight. Nadia and Kimba the White Lion were not done by the same studios. More specifically, the similarities between Nadia and Atlantis have to do with the fact that BOTH are "ripped off" from the same source material, 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea, and they both generally lift from the same Atlantic myths. I've been hearing some of the same ignorant claptrap that Treasure Planet is a "ripoff" of the anime Outlaw Star because it features pirates in space, and because Outlaw Star had a character named Jim Hawking (whose name, btw, was a combination of Jim Hawkins from Treasure Island and Stephen Hawking, the scientist).....while ignoring the fact that BOTH are based on similar source material, the novel Treasure Island. Also, the Nadia situation is a lot more complex, as it was originally something Miyazaki (of Studio Ghibli fame) was going to work on, and it didn't pan out....not coincedentally, the similarities between Gainax's Nadia and Studio Ghibli's movie Laputa: Castle in the Sky...read more about it here. The Lion King/Kimba the White Lion stuff is more blatant, but that is a different issue. -Tom
Is there a link, the only thing that comes up on avon.com is that 10 in 1 atari joystick linked in the article. I'd definitely kill for one of these with activision games. -Tom
Or maybe I guess this is the product for the same kind of person who spends tens of thousands of dollars on an umbrella stand.
-Tom
$19,500 for a phone? I assume this site is a joke..... Either that or this is a product for people who just like to be assholes about flaunting whatever they have overpaid for. -Tom
Hrmm....I thought what killed their competitors was a) awful battery life on the color handheld systems and b) a lot of mediocre software. People kept buying gameboys because of its excellent software library and that you could play it for more than 2-6 hours before the batteries died out.
I think people may be jumping to conclusions too quickly about CN and their plans for anime. A lot of the early reports on this seem to come from the mediaweek article, which had some serious factual errors. I would wait and see for more announcements from Cartoon Network on actual programming. We already know that Cartoon Network will be debuting two new anime TV shows....The Big O season 2 and the new TV series Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex in the next few months. Most likely shows will be shifted in and out of the lineup. But it doesn't mean that any shows are necessarily permanently cancelled (current shows like Ripping Friends and the Oblongs have limited episode counts and can't be re-run endlessly).....it's also not definite that Cowboy Bebop and Inuyasha will be airing every night of the adult swim block, more likely they will shift things so multiple shows are showing on different days of the week. Anyway, just not a good idea to jump to conclusions, as clearly there still isn't a whole lot of information out there. Apparently the main reason the saturday block was cut was because it was getting good ratings but mainly from younger kids, who are able to stay up later on saturday nights, and CN isn't looking for kids in their ratings for the Adult Swim programming. -Tom
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CSICOP Press Release Responding to Crop Circle and Disney's Signs
If you have a Mac, and open the box for it, you will notice that you have three Mac OS Up To Date Coupons (I have an iBook with coupons that say I bought my iBook with OS 9.2 and OS X 10.1 installed. There are three coupons and when you use them you only have to pay $20 for the upgrade, not the full retail price. I don't see what people are getting so worked up about. When I bought my Dell with Windows ME preinstalled, I had to pay full price to get Windows XP for it. This is a heck of a lot better.