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Adult Swim Revamps; Removes Most Anime
E. Megas writes "According to a Collegiate Presswire story, Cartoon Network (Probably due to its recent acquisition of Futurama) is expanding its Adult Swim schedule to Monday through Thursday starting January 12th. The "Comedy" block on Sundays will stay, but except for Inu-Yasha and Cowboy Bebop (Which will replace the Toonami Midnight Run block on the weekday slots) the Saturday "Action" block will be gone. This means that the legendary series Mobile Suit Gundam will not be aired in full for the second time in a row on CN. Future airings of Yuu Yuu Hakusho and Outlaw Star-And the planned re-airing of Gundam 0080: War In the Pocket-Are thrown into doubt by this decision as well. More schedule details in the article. (Anyone else as frustrated by this as I am?)"
Is this a ratings issue, or a glut of content issue?
Same delicious Cartoon Network, now with no MSG!
"I would say that 99 per cent of what my father has written about his own life is false." - L. Ron Hubbard Jr.
Well, there goes most of my motivation for actually having cable. Looks like it's back to imports & P2P for my anime fix...
I would care if any of the stuff on CN wasn't dubed/edited to death
oh no we are all going to die (its an anime reference for the mods who dont get it)
3p run it.
I'm pretty damn fond of anime, but no TV series has ever done it for me and most just down right piss me off(Dragonball Z, or anything with big eye'd overly-cartoonish characters). If I need a fix, I'll throw in Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust, which is my new favorite, even above Ghost in the Shell or Akira.
Finally, math books without any of that base 6 crap in them.
First of all, CN modifies many anime horribly for content. Entire storylines are sometimes cut out of longer series.
Secondly, if you're already into anime, you can probably find most of the titles they show at the local blockbuster.
Anime has already gone fairly main stream. It's doubtful whether Adult Swim brings in very many new viewers, so I'm not too upset over them, either.
Futurama was the only thing worth reading about in that article. What is it with you god damn nerds and anime?
ATHF, Brak, Sealab. They keep moving them to a later time. They used to be on at 11:00, then 11:30, then later and now even later. I have nothing to record with so now I am forced to stay up later and later on Sunday night.
That's 'ROUNDEYES' to you!
Exactly how is "Mobile Suit Gundam" legendary ? Let us not cheapen words. Its like the newspaper headlines which say that "this is an historic moment for America", for even the most commonplace events.
No.
No E., you are the only one who is frustrated by it. Nobody else really is.
Sorry.
thats their business.
All Troll + "offtopic" mods are meta moderated as "Unfair", because you abused the system.
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I wonder if this is a sign that Anime has peaked. The Action channel (Encore) quietly killed their dedicated anime line-up, though they still have it, and now Cartoon Network is removing theirs.
Maybe there's not enough viewer support for broadcast anime, as opposed to just buying it off of DVD...
Not to be a troll or anything, but I'm glad to see the anime go. I prefer cartoons like Harvey Birdman: Attorney At Law and The Oblongs
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To be honest, I'd take Futurama over Anime any day of the week. Openly, and readily. Without question. Yes.
I've learned recently that Anime rather annoys me. It's all too cliched these days, what with seeing it every which way you look in some way shape or form.
And then you have the people who know the names of every character from every series and can link every relationship in every way shape or form. And... yeah, that's migrane-inducing after about 10 minutes.
Informatus Technologicus
I've come to love 'Home Movies'. It reminds me of another toon, but for the life of me, I can't think of it. Oh well. I'll just continue to enjoy. More Adult Swim can only be good right?
Thank you. Drive through. (:wq)
I keep getting my Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Sealab 2021, and Harvey Birdman -- Attorney at Law, I'll accept that they wiped out the anime. I never watched that stuff anyway. JMO. As someone who actually remembers Sealab 2020, I just can't get over what they've done to that old show. Heh. Cool that they purchased Futurama. Maybe that show will actually get a consistent timeslot now?!?!?
I hate anime. :)
I wish this was put in the anime category instead of the TV category. That way my filter would have kicked in and I would not have wasted those 15 seconds of my life reading about stoopid anime. I want those 15 seconds back!
(Anyone else as frustrated by this as I am?)"
Absolutely not - the whole post is pointless
Because they didn't get the viewers. This means they think there are more people who will watch the new stuff.... and bugger all who would watch the old stuff.
If you want to see it all, go out and buy it...
An Eye for an Eye will make the whole world blind - Gandhi
no, we are not as frustrated as you are - we have .. we have
better things to do than watch cartoons
to hang out on slashdot and try to get first posts.
you can't really do that if you're watching
cartoons.
Then you should try the short shift we get on Australian CN. Anime at the moment is just repeats of Gundam Wing, DBZ, the two Zoid series and Neon Gen. The newest stuff we have had is Zoids: CC. No Tenchi, no 08th team. While I feel your pain, you have it good!
Cartoon Network may be one of the only places where you can get your anime fix on cable, but their overediting and bad dub jobs are notorious among hardcore fans. I'd much rather watch Futurama than that terrible edited version of Outlaw Star they air, or god forbid, more photoshopped Tenchi.
Maybe they could add a Saturday Action block that was subtitled. Adults can read, right?
If there is a God, you are an authorized representative. - Kurt Vonnegut Jr.
>It's a gateway genre which turns people to more hardcore stuff like Hentai and Gadjin (sp?).
Don't forget about Manga!
Nope, sorry, not me. I'll be fine as long as they keep airing Cowboy Bebop, which is pretty much the only thing that interests me on Cartoon Network at the moment.
You're a fucking idiot. I know more than my fair share of hard core anime lovers, and the all consider Hentai to be some incredibly stupid shit. You're either a troll or brain dead, 2 options I'd rather not have to choose from. And for those that do like Hentai, how does that translate into pedophilia? That's like saying everyone that watched Melrose Place turned into a pedophile because then they got into harder shit like pornos, it doesn't make sense fucking 1.
I honestly cannot believe someone out there as stupid as you is wasting perfectly good air.
Finally, math books without any of that base 6 crap in them.
It's probably for the best. This will encourage me to actually go out and buy the DVDs for the shows I like, rather than just tape them off of CN. (And no cutting that way, too)
:P
Plus, Futurama will find a new home. It is a very underappreciated show, and I'm glad it can be shown somewhere were it will won't be constantly preempted by sports.
Cogito ergo sum in Slashdot.
Don't forget about Manga!
Good point.
when it comes to all things anime, slashdot is otaku.
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If inuyasha and cowboy bebop fill the midnight run spot will dragonball z still air at that time?
--fetch daddy's blue fright wig, i must be handsome when i release my rage
But, I hope the post is true. Futurama r00ls, Gundam dr00ls.
-R
S/He isn't a troll, this is a valid point.
The legends of our times will be marked by those who come after us. To go around declaring things of our own legendary.. It's pointless. It's cheap. It's like calling Linus Torvalds or Bill Gates legendary.
Will they be remembered in five or ten generations? Maybe. That's not for us to decide, however.
If you want to call something legendary, go talk about Arthurian lore. Maybe Shakespeare's plays, even.
I disagree with the parent's explanitory use of historic, however. Certainly, Microsoft's monopoly is a historic thing, likewise is Linus' bringing open source to the masses. Mobile Suit Gundam, even, was a historic point for anime.
Anime sucks.
Personally I only watch Adult Swim on Sundays for the oblongs, harvey birdman, and sealab 2021. I'm not a fan of anime so that left me watching something other than Adult Swim most of the nights. Kinda sad that mission hill was removed from sunday nights, but next sunday I am looking forward to the special showing of rejected. For those of you who have no idea what rejected click here
Well, they *did* edit Dragonball (referring to the original series as opposed to DBZ).
Eg when Bulma gets the dragonball from Roshi, in the original she flashes her pussy at him and we get to see her butt. Seriously.
In the Cartoon Network one she flashes her 'belly button'. and we don't get to see anything...
Theres also plenty of dialog that got re-voiced over for the Cartoon Network series, like when Roshi asks Bulma for a date in the original, in the Cartoon network version, Roshi asks Bulma for a date with one of Bulmas mothers friends...
I guess some things just had to be toned down for sensitive viewers...
In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
Hey, I'm a lover of hard core anime, too!
True anime may have showed up here and there in the mainstream, but it lacks the appeal of American we-want-to-sell-toys cartoons, save for a few lousy watered down anime-based shows such as Pokemon, etc.
It's no huge surprise that Cartoon Network is cancelling those shows, as the fanbase in mainstream America simply isn't large enough to support such a small group of Anime fans, as obsessive as they are.
Why do I have this hunch that, if another site had done thusly, there would now be 20,000 Slashdot malcontents screaming at the sky over the whole thing?
I think anime is almost impossibly stupid and took steps to not see anything about it. Slashdot changed my mind for me. How nice.
"(Anyone else as frustrated by this as I am?)"
Not as long as the International Channel has the properly subtitled Slayers on Wednesdays and Sundays.
JM (stalks the Dragon Cuisine)
Somewhere on this page I have hidden my signature.
But obviously an enemy of the printed english language.
Finally, math books without any of that base 6 crap in them.
I don't know much about Cartoon Network over in the states, but here in the UK things are actually improving. We now have an extra channel 'CNX' which shows a lot of anime stuff, some live-action movies (lot of hong-kong action movies) and the more adult cartoons that they wouldn't put on the regular channels.
As far as I know, Cowboy Bebop has never been shown in the UK before this channel.
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...here I come. Seems the local rental place is the only place to get good stuff I haven't seen already.
Cowboy Bebop is great, probably the best dubs there are, but CN's shown them so many times, I know 'em all, and there's no reason for me to set aside time to watch it on a weekend night when I can be out with other anime-watching friends and rented/purchased DVDs.
Inuyasha's a good series in the fansubs I've seen, but the dubs just ruin it for me. Yuu Yuu Hakusho has caught my interest somewhat, but mostly for the jazzy theme music. DBZ is funny, but after you've seen a few episodes, you've seen 'em all.
I'm still saddened by the fact that only 13 eps of Big O were ever made... and that I missed about half of the last season of ReBoot. Grrr.
Oh, well, at least it looks like we're getting another season of Stargate out of Sci Fi....
Good judgment comes from experience.
Experience comes from bad judgment.
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Who is the coolest cowboy
( ) cowboy neal
( ) cowboy bebop
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I live in Europe. I have absolutely no idea what you were writing about.
:-)
Am I missing something, or is about crap only visible in the US?
This is the only reason to watch adult swim.
Save the World! Use a Quote!
and cancelling Farscape. THe only show i lreally liked was Bebop, and I bought the prefect sessionss (bootleg blah blah whatever), the other stuff is kiddie crap and pretty much unwatchable (even though DBZ is good enuf to tolerate). Living in Canada, but I get DirecTV, means I miss out on shows like the ripping friends nad their timeslot on probably teletoon, but at least they get shown every now and then. Note abotu teh Sunday lineup, you can't even tell what shows will be actually shown on "any given sunday", as they shuffle their lineup more than a bunch of retired folkes at "bridge tournament 2003". As long as it's free I don't care what's on, there is always TechTV and "Thunderbirds".
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Compared to the shows on the sunday adult swim, nothing, and i mean nothing on the rest of tv compares. Harvey birdman, aqua-teen hunger-force
and sealab blow that cliched, over-edited crap
they pass off as anime (not to mention everything else broadcasted) out of the water.
My name is FRYLOCK and i'm ALL talk!
Who cares, as long as they keep "Home Movies" -- it's the funniest and most enjoyable show on television, hands down. Along with the Daily Show, it's one of the last two reasons I keep cable.
~jeff
I'm just upset that they've taken the adult cartoon Mission Hill off their Sunday night line-up and replaced it with the adolescent and imbecilic "Ripping Friends." But still as long as they keep the rocking Aqua Teen Hunger Force and the sublime The Brak Show I guess I'll be able to live with it. I enjoy Saturday night anime up till and including Cowboy Be-bop but I really don't care what happens to all that Gundam shite.
I'm not paying $40 a month and then a few extra bucks per 'special bonus pack', of which I doubt the History Channel and various Food Networks are included in the same.
If Sci-Fi still had decent shows, and Cartoon Network didn't slaughter all anime, I'd consider picking up cable again. As it stands, Sci-Fi has degenerated into drek (Lexx? The Dune Mockery?), and Cartoon Network shows poor quality dubbing.
If you want to see how bad dubbing can be, just look at Shinseiki Evangelion. (Any Japanese speakers out there, native speakers? I can't find any reference for Shinseiki being translated to 'Neon Genesis'..)
The first episode, I believe, Misato, What's Her Face, and Shinji are on a lift, talking of an Eva activation test:
English: "It's Oni, a Japanese devil." This makes absolutely no sense.
Japanese, with Subbing: "It's 0.9, not zero." Hey, a percentage of success - now that makes sense.
Look at Gundam Wing. "Self Detonation this, Self Detonation that!" The subs seem to refer to something called 'self destruction', however, which seems to be the proper term for exploding oneself.
Now, I'm no moronic fanboy. I don't sit around whining at ADV for translating various bits of Kanji into English, when I can't even read Kanji. But such blatant mistranslation of the dialogue in anime can totally warp the story into something it isn't.
Zap2It also has details:
The Cartoon Network will soon expand its "Adult Swim" block of animation for grown-ups (in age, anyway) to five nights a week.
Starting Sunday, Jan. 12, the two-hour block of comedies and Japanese anime will air at 11 p.m. ET Sunday through Thursday. Adult Swim currently airs only on Sundays and Thursdays.
At the same time, "Futurama" will makes its Cartoon Network debut as part of the block. The cable channel recently acquired rights to all 72 episodes of the Emmy-winning series (it returns to FOX Nov. 10), which will air at 11 p.m. Monday-Thursday.
"Since we began Adult Swim, the goal was to build it into an across-the-schedule franchise," says Jim Samples, Cartoon Network's executive vice president and general manager. "Now we have the depth in our Adult Swim programming portfolio to make it happen."
Sunday's lineup will be devoted to comedies, with "The Oblongs" at 11 p.m., "Mission Hill" at 11:30 and "The Ripping Friends" at midnight. The 12:30 a.m. slot will feature a rotation of Cartoon Network originals "Aqua Teen Hunger Force," "Harvey Birdman, Attorney at Law," "The Brak Show" and "Sealab 2021."
In addition to "Futurama," the weeknight slate features "Home Movies" at 11:30, "InuYasha" at midnight and "Cowboy Bebop" at 12:30 a.m
The reason the action block is being removed is that Cartoon Network found that a large number of kids were watching the block. The purpose of 'Adult Swim' was to have animated programming on the air that was aimed at adults. The ratings they were getting said that a lot larger block of kids were watching the Saturday night programming, thus the change to the 'school night' lineup. Granted, they have those unnecessarily long warning, but they have to show this because otherwise stupid parents would complain (and probably did anyway), and because Cartoon Network is still filed under a kids programming station.
The purpose of Adult Swim is to help Cartoon Network transition from kid's programming to an over-all entertainment network. The expansion of the Adult Swim franchise should be seen as a good thing, especially seeing that Futurama will be added to the weekly block. I think there's a lot more of us that will appreciate Futurama having a regular home than those who cared about the animes listed above.
I know I'll sure enjoy seeing Futurama every weeknight, and as long as the Sunday block is left alone, I'll be alright. The real issue with the new schedule that I have is whether Space Ghost is still on the Sunday block or not.
You're only as smart as your brain.
Am I the only one that bought the Cowboy Beebop DVD set because of Adult Swim? I dont think so. I'm a big fan of random anime. Too bad I don't get cartoon network now that I'm out of college... Damn college kids get it all.
Can anyone find an email address to contact these people at? I can't seem to find one on their web site.
Not that I'm deluded enough to think that they'll actually care about what I have to say, but the anime geeks at my college were the ones largely responsible for having the campus subscribe to CN, and I have a funny feeling that then the next channel survey comes up, I'm guessing they're going to be rated rather lowly.
And yeah, American cartoons are so much better: Filled with ego-maniacs, stuttering pigs, slurring cats, gender-ambiguous birds, etc., etc. I'm really not a wannabe asian, and saying that anime is a gateway to pedophilia is a little like saying drinking mountain dew is a gateway to cocaine; I do however appreciate a good story ark, and producing shows that are more than degenerate collections of insipid one-liners is something that Americans absolutely suck at.
So anyway, does anyone actually have a contact email address for these guys?
Cartoon Network will be completely gone here by tomorrow. It will be replaced by another channel.
First, they killed Zoids: Chaotic Century. They're killing off G Gundam. Now they're killing off the best block they have for ADULTS?!?!?
If they're comming out with Toonami Double-A (Action/Anime) Channel soon, *I'LL GLADLY SUBSCRIBE*. But they're alienating an increasingly large amount of folks who don't get the deal with Ed, Edd, and Eddy, Courage, Johnny Bravo, and a ton of repeats and fillers that we've seen before or can predict the plot down to the exact second.
GAH!
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Seems like the site is slashdotted. Anyone got a mirror. Also, anyone know why they canned Mission Hill, that was one of my favorite shows on TV. (Certainly much much much better than ripping friends)
They misunderestimated me. -- George W. Bush
Is not!
I will be much happier when the U.S. TV network censors would let something like Neon Genesis through their filters.
I'm probably not part of a large demographic here, but I personally don't watch anime on TV and I only full length anime movies. It makes sense to go out and buy the DVD for a single movie, but for a series it can be quite costly to go and buy all the discs.
For any anime that's a series, I'll just drop it into my netflix queue. I end up getting about one disc a week, I watch the episodes, mail it back and get the next disc. So far, I've seen all of Trigun this way (an excellent series), and I'm now working my way through cowboy bebop.
The beauty of this is I don't have commercials, I work through the series at whatever pace suits me, and I can watch it anytime I want (I don't have a Tivo so that's not possible with TV).
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What on Earth are you on about?
Does it effect the hardcore? No, they've probably got the DVDs, videos, or DiVX copies.
... Why should that be frustrating?
Does it effect the casual fan? No, if you're a casual fan and they stop showing them then it just fades away in your memory. If you really miss it, buy the DVDs or whatever, otherwise just forget it.
The only people I can see this really effecting is the average non-fan whom the anime geeks of the world wish would get wise to anime. The only "frustrating" thing is that anime is no longer as extensively offered to those who don't care for it enough to seek it out.
Just because you LOVE anime, and think anyone with any sense whatsoever SHOULD LOVE anime doesn't mean it's Cartoon Network's duty to expose it to them, and frankly a large segment of western culture will never get into anime, and would much rather watch the Oblongs, Futurama, Undergrads, or whatever. All I'm saying is - Let them.
...Also, I didn't know Buggalo could fly.
Like calling every woman entertainer a "diva". No, Britney Spears is not a "diva".
... So I wouldn't have to be subjected to this foolishness?
I'm going to admit to not only an addiction to Samurai Jack (best American toon in ages) but yes. I love "powerpuff girls". I put that in quotes cause I know some twit will make some chester comment.
other than that I'm not moved about the changes. I only ever got to see adult swim every once in a while and if its good anime, like any good show or movie, I'll get it on DVD
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And we ALL know that Ted Turner is the fucking antichrist, don't we? After all he's the schmuck behind editing all of the old cartoons to be politically correct. HE MUST DIE!
So, is the unedited fight between Goku and Freiza 6 seasons long?
I need a FreeBSD is dying post PRONTO!
(Anyone else as frustrated by this as I am?)
Uhm no... Adult Swim rules!
While this is bad news, even more horrific is the announcement that Comedy Central has decided not to renew the critically acclaimed "Let's Bowl!" for a third season. Between that news and now this, I may just crawl up on my roof and dismantle my pirate satellite and unplug my stolen cable in protest. That'll teach 'em....
now what am I gonna do at 12:30am????? Pr0n?
:(
It might not have been great anime, none the less it was a step toward getting great anime some US airtime.(and it was cheap) If nothing else it did make it a little easier to get more good stuff in main stream places. (Suncoast, Blockbuster)
Oh well, guess some things just were never meant to be common-place here
At least this way I won't have to listen to such poor dubbing anymore. Now if they showed it in the raw Japanese with subtitles and no scenes edited out, I would definitely mourn the loss.
As long as little blue smurfs stay on I am fine ;oP Why? Watching smurfs stoned is even better than watching Wizard of Oz with Pink Floyd Dark side of the moon playing..
I hate futurama. :)
What is the point of Futurama on CN except to hard core fans? There weren't that many episodes and there won't be any new ones.
Sigpilot : I'm in the pipe, 5 by 5.
Did he finally get back to Japan, or Kansas, or whatever?
Oh, who am I kidding, I don't really care.
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actuly no E. Megas i think Gundam is about 10 years done. but thats me. hell Futurama on sunday night with Home movies sounds cool!
Almost all of Cartoon Network's cartoons suck. Anime is horrible quality, and everything that's not anime nowadays is even worse. If they showed anything from the real cartoon era, such as G.I. Joe, Transformers (orignal), Centurions, TMNT, Mask, Thundercats, Dino Riders, etc., then I would care. However, they only show crap, so I don't give a rip.
That was such a funny scene when she flashed him. And all because Goku was curious about why Bulma didn't have any balls when he was trying to use her crotch as a pillow! God, I can only imagine how much of that joke was edited for the American version. I was laughing for weeks the first time I read the manga. =)
I remember when Behind the Music was cool. Then they added it to every weeknight. Then every 12 hours. Now the entire idea of the show is played out. Can anyone see the similarities here? Take a good thing and use it use it use it until we're sick of it.
I hate all this anime shit. Why not read some real domestic comics like The Maxx or Eightball? Anime suddenly got popular and most people joined the bandwagon to look l33t. Well I've hated it from the very beginning, l33t enough for you?
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The details of US TV schedules are hardly appropriate for the Slashdot front page. Why not make a separate category for these purely local discussions?
I find it funny how somebody can write the words "Not a Troll" in their subject, and then they can proceed to troll, and it automatically excuses their comment from being moderated as a troll (as I speak, the score is 2, with no comment afterwards). It's like saying, "I am not a thief", and then going out and robbing a bank.
;).
Of course, I should be moderated troll, offtopic, or flaimbait for posting this remark. However, if the above rule holds true, I should be safe
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Consider this: you are a grown man whose life is upset by a change in TV programming. You are addicted to cartoons for crying out loud. Some day you will look back and say, "I've wasted my life." You are a fool.
AR
There once was a channel, which showed a lot of bullshit
There was this red eyed girl, and a stupid looking yellow mouse. There was 11 year old girls being raped.
how the fuck do they have time to go to the hair salons, why do they look like witches. This is crap, im tuning in to "penguin baywatch" on national geographic instead.
Not that! Not the third overnight Sundays-with-a-full-moon block of yadda-yadda oddly-Western-looking-character Japanese cartoons! AGGH!
Oh, wait, I have a life.
You, however, may resume panic ... ;)
I seriosly don't think that it's about viewers. Alot of kids at my school(I'm talking normal average kids not the otakus so this doesn't include me) watch adult swim. And I also remeber that just recently adult swim it's best ratings ever I think that that is the case everywhere. THE only explanation that I can think of is someone complaining about the content(think of the chidlren bs) or something like that
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I don't give a flying fsck about this stuff. Write something for grass roots people who have a modem.
I'm all for anime, but honestly I never watched the Saturday night block anyway due to my crazy desire to be social once in a while.
Their Sunday lineup is ridiculously good, though. Aqua Teen Hunger Force and Sealab 2021 are some of the funniest stuff on TV (along with The Simpsons, of course). The possibility of seeing these shows, Futurama, and whatever other great stuff Cartoon Network can come up with four nights a week gets me all excited.
I'll just continue to purchase the anime I really want to see on DVD and get the stuff that isn't available on my side of the pond from those glorious fansubbers out there. Yay.
Game... blouses.
I, in contrast to many /.ers, am upset, not for myself, but for some of my friends. Some of my friends don't like much of the raw, uncensored versions of anime, nor do they care to read subtitles for the entire show. They don't mind a little flesh and blood here and there, but beyond that, most anime is too much for them. They found CN's Adult Swim to be a happy compromise.
Also, some of my friends are in college dorms or someplace where they get free cable with their housing, and normally, they will not go out of their way to pay for anime, but since CN was providing it, they took advantage of the free anime.
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Does it, Trollee?
1) Adult Swim Action couldn't possibly have had worse promotion. Note: squeezing as many action clips as possible into 30 seconds does not a good commercial make. That synth-voice sucked. And a little cross-network advertising that actually targeted the right people would have been nice (Sci-fi good, CNN bad, stoopid).
2) The shows they picked could have been better. Specifically, they could have been for adults, and furthermore shouldn't have been edited down to a pre-teen level. Things might have gone rather differently if they had Hellsing or Excel Saga or Hajime no Ippo headlining (provided the dubs don't suck - I don't know).
3) The Inu Yasha dub sucks terribly, for a headlining show. Pilot Candidate sucks, period - I was changing the channel with extreme prejudice when that came on. MS Gundam is interesting from a historical standpoint, but not much else. OS and Tenchi had already been shown way too much already.
4) I wonder how many times they'll re-run Cowboy Bebop before they realize that adults, unlike kids, tend not to watch shows ad infinitum. This is the problem with ALL CN shows, and especially with AS. At the very least, they could run a show all the way through (anime series are almost all ~13 or ~26 episodes long) in a prime time slot once, then switch to a new series, and eventually rerunning it in a less watched time slot for the rest. Of course they best way would be to run it once in a blue moon and make it an event, and show LOTS of series.
5) Anime != Action. Tenchi is not action (nor is Sailor Moon over in Toonami). Anime covers a broad spectrum of genres and is generally marketed to specific target demographics. Grouping shows by genres is bad - it makes people compare. Grouping shows by demographic is good - it ensures people keep watching. No demographic wants to watch for more than 2 hrs, and most will watch for only 1.
6) I can barely stay up 'til one, even on Saturday, and am rarely in the mood to watch 3 hrs of programming at a time. Also, Saturday night happens to be when a very large chunk of the AS demographic has better things to do, like appeasing the girlfriend or going to a LAN party. It's an awful time slot. (For the record, I think a better pattern would be for 1hr per night Su-Th, with different shows targeting different demographics each night, like prime time on the networks but shorter. I.E. adults can just tune in at a certain time and something new for them will be on. Unfortunately late night is hard to program through, with the Midnight Run conflicting, The Daily Show competing, and Bed calling.)
7) Nothing ventured, nothing gained. ASA had little problem attracting the hardcore geek contingent. It might've survived if they tried attracting other people too.
---If you can't trust a nerd, who can you trust?
Hahaha, USTVSUX. Why dont you move to the uk and get telewest (no dreaded cnx). Block channels 135, 704,705,707,708 and enjoy TV without this anime bullshit!
Cartoon Network only ever airs bad dubs, even on their Adult Swim blocks. This really won't be a problem for many anime fans, and I suspect that few people are brought in by the horrendous quality of the American voice actors. Note that this says nothing about anime running during the main time, like the Big O sequel that Cartoon Network is financing.
As for anime peaking, I suggest you start looking at places other than US TV channels, who have notoriously bad taste in the first place. TokyoPop constantly has trouble printing enough of the manga series it owns the rights to to meet demand. Anime distributors often license series before they're finished their Japanese run, usually based on the popularity of the fansubs.
As long as they keep Harvey Birdman, I really could give a damn. That freakin' show is SO damn funny. It leaves me talking about it for days afterward. Has anybody else seen the one with Showyouweenie? Damn what a funny show!
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Siezure lawsuits.
True, dubs aren't always exactly on...but they *do* allow lots more people to enjoy the show. I tend to like watching dubs if I haven't seen it before (can watch the whole picture more easily) or if other people watching aren't as used to subs.
Some of the translation stuff, one has to remember, is done to match the lips on screen. The acting has to change time as well. Given that, some of the dubs out there are really pretty good. Ever see something that they just say what was originally said, ignoring the lips? (Bubblegum Crisis is like that) It's *really* bad.
I actually like the dubs better for some things...like Nadesico and El Hazard for instance. Since there's a lot of situational only humor or plays on words, the translation to English makes it easier to enjoy (for me). I also don't speak Japanese.
I do like subs better overall, if only because it's the orginal performance and such, but that's not to say I don't appreciate the dubs too.
I think that the Eva title roughly translates to "The Gospel for the New Century". Whereas the English would be something like "New Gospel Beginning" or something like that.
I have turned on dub and watched the sub before, and seen series both dubbed and subbed. Where there *are* lines changed, the main point stays the same.
Cowboy Bebop and Inuyasha have pretty good dubs I think. In truth I've barely watched Inuyasha on CN, but I have seen up into the 40s fansubbed...
Bebop has some great performances I think. I can't truly judge the Japanese because I don't speak it, and I keep that in mind whenever I hear a cheesy sounding dub too ^_^
Is this some sort of reference to this?
MSG may not be gone, since CN hasn't mentioned what they are replacing the Saturday block with. They've also already have the rights to Char's Counterattack and say that they will only show it after they finish MSG.
An even more important fact to remember is that CN constantly and [practically] randomly change their schedules. You can never expect when a show is going to pop-up. One day, their online schedule may have two months of shows listed, and the next, the entire thing's been revamped. Their schedule is very unpredictable.
Seriously, everything that has been cut was nearing its natural end of life; Gundam is the only one that hasn't been on that long. Also, try to remember that Cartoon Network is going from showing 3 hours of Adult Swim anime to 5. It's pretty likely that Cowboy Bebop will be replaced by another new acquision soon, given the fact that the 26 episodes will be repeating every 5 weeks on the new shedule.
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More: Brak, Sealab, Harvey Birdman, Space Ghost, Futurama Less: Giant robot series with poorly-dubbed and -written relationships instead of any freakin' giant robot fights. So why exactly are you complaining?
Cartoon Network has done more for anime then all the other networks combined. Just more proof that america's changing, for the worse. I remember watching the thundercats on that way back when (Yes, I know I'm young), and finding out it was made in japan, and so was speed racer. And YuYu Hakusho, God damn, that was the best ever. That sprouted my interest, and then I started renting, discovered ureusi yatsura, Dragonball, Ranma, Those who Hunt Elves, and countless others. 'Tis the end of an era.
And why did you staple the trout to the RAM?
Asides from CN's toonami offerings, they really don't carry any action oriented cartoons (besides samurai jack or justice league/batman).
There are plenty of action oriented cartoons out there from the 70's-today, i'm just curious why they don't show any of them during prime time, but instead show endless repeats of their home brewed comedic cartoons. I would believe that showing old episodes of x-men, transformers, gi joe or he-man would be cheaper than producing new cartoons.
Additionally showing some action toons (or even the simpsons) would be a nice change from a mostly comedic primetime lineup.
Bring back the old version of slashdot.
who is upset by last minute TV station schedule changes. Loser.
AR
Personally, I'm not a big fan of the anime CN shows on Adult Swim. I am a big fan of Cowboy Bebop and Outlaw Star, but I like the Endless Waltz era Gundam better than the 0080 era. As far as I am concerned, as long as we get new episodes of SeaLab 2021, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, The Brak Show, and Space Ghost I'll be happy; there the resons I started watching Adult Swim in the first place.
Wasn't that inspired by the "Kidz News" episode of the simpsons?
For those who don't remember, Bart and Lisa's tv show was cancelled. Its timeslot was given to "Chocobots", sponsored by Hershy and Mattel.
You can't judge a book by the way it wears its hair.
that they are clearly catering to adults. People, who aren't losers, don't have lives that revolve around cartoons. Maybe it's time for you to make some changes in your life. Try getting some exercise, eating healthy foods, and getting proper rest. Of those three the most important is rest. Without rest, the way you live your life is going to suffer terribly.
Just a friendly suggestion.
AR
I can see why their shutting the anime portion of Adult Swim, personally. What are they showing that's going to appeal to anybody? They've pissed the hardcore audiance off by chopping the crap out of what they show and their simply isn't enough content to generate a critical mass of moderate viewers. I mean Inu-Yasha? That's hardly something that's gonna draw the average viewer back. Goddess Canidate (or whatever it was really called)? That just stunk. And I know, lets fill our time slots up with TWO Gundam series, one of which is damn near unwatchable to moderates and newcomers because it's so damn old, classic status be damned. Cowboy Beebop was a step in the right direction (clue: it's being kept in the line-up) as was Outlaw Star. But then they fill valuble time slots with that Spirit Detective crap. Their are 500 series out their better than the majority of what they're airing, and THIS is all they can get the rights to?
Yeah, Adult Swim anime isn't going anywhere... Wonderfully self fullfilling prophesy these cancellations are too.
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/me makes an appointment to see his witch doctor and request 3x his current antidepressant dosage.
They chose bland old Disney Speilburg and iky Clive Barker over Farscape.
and now they have chosen the worst $#!+ ever to come from an animator's pen over stuff that is nothing short of inspired.
If I were boss, I would do nothing but anime and Samurai Jack. Everything else is brain-damaging...
Maybe, I suppose, I might get a decient night's sleep more often... But still, this is suckey to the extreme. I feel my quality of life sinking dramaticly. =(
PS: wtf is up with the transformers remake??? Its pissing all over the orrigional... Not even voltron was that bad...
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The thing that really puzzles me is the way the story line must have been mixed around.
;)
In the original scene where she flashes Roshi,
Oolong is present.
While in the version on CN, Oolong doesn't appear until about 2 episodes after the flash.
Also, the outfit Bulma is wearing in the original flash scene, and her hairstyle are totally different from the CN version.
So someone has done some serious editing not to mention re-animation... uh I don't mean raising the dead
Ie a *lot* of work has been done changing the toon... for what? Make it palatable for sensitive european tastes or something?
In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
slashdot is mostly US centric, that is most readers/posters have engish as their native language. The US is the country with the largest population of native speakers, although im sure more people live outside of the US who speak english.
The only important thing that you all need to realize, is dammit, we need more episodes of Sealab 2021 and Harvey Birdman: Attorney-At-Law!!!!!!!
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It's too bad they're dropping MSG, that's a quality show, but the real tragedy is when they replaced Mission Hill with that inane ripping friends show a few weeks ago, augh, it's such crap... Mission Hill rocked!
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I feel guilty every time I boot Windows
Have a nice day,
AR
is it me or everytime i watch any anime show it looks like a sci-fi cartoon on lifetime ???
I hate the damn stuff. Maybe now I can watch Johnny Bravo!
Adult swim isnt just anime. Shows like harvey birdman: attorney at law, and Sealab 2021 are hilarious shows with many adult only jokes, and many jokes that only adults would get.
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Have a nice day,
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Sailor Moon wasn't really a kids show until the editors got ahold of it (yes, I know that it's no longer in the lineup, but it used to be)
Those people truly are sick and sad, much like you describe.
Many anime fans that I've personally watch degenerate, unemployed and living off their parents well into their twenties after dropping out of high school, do forgo basic things such as bathing, and due to lack of exercise are in poor physical shape and therefore completely unprepared to take the stress of even a simple job. All they do is accumulate tens of gigabytes of anime, much of it depraved and decadent, and even collecting Hentai, as they withdraw from all friends and family and listen to Tori Amos.
They're not always schizophrenics, and many should seek professional help, though a swift kick in the rear never hurts, either.
The only girls who like anime only like to watch it when they get stoned or drop acid, as with the other section of the less obsessive men.
i modded you up b/c i completely agree. bebop is random as hell, an amazing series for those who might have a preconceived notion that they dislike anime. too bad there are only about 25 episodes, that's going to make reruns appear on CN every 5 weeks. not that bad, but definitely going to get old considering futurama has 72 episodes.
:)
anyway, back on topic. you can own the dvds by purchasing piecemeal off half.com. bebop is dark and shadowy, with an odd conglomeration of characters that you can't help but love. there's a lot of the story you aren't told (some of which i still don't know) and you have to derive from the shows. this really draws you into the series. anyone know what a datadog is?
see you, space cowboy
Satanists get good grades too...suspiciously good grades
Maybe i'm missing something, but why the hell would that be worth keeping in the first place?
Yes, I know it was Toriyama's original vision and all that, but geezus....Don't we already get enough lewd crap in mainstream TV?
Maybe i'm not much of a "sensitive viewer" (not really), but I think sometimes one just needs to sit back and watch the freakin' show without worrying that every word of dialogue and drawing is perfectly in place.
I'm sorry, but it's getting so I can barely stand all the people popping up in anime discussions, whining about how US-shown anime has been completely massacred and all, and that little quip at the end is just a little too much.
...and realized I should have read it a bit more closely in the first place. As you can see, the programming changes are for the most part close to what I suggested. Late night will be consistently adult, which is good. (BTW: I like the non-anime AS [except the Oblongs], and Futurama is a good buy). I'm surpised they're removing the Midnight Run for IY/CB, but I suspect they'll just move it to an earlier time slot. Well, it beats the Looney Toons / Tom and Jerry dead zone!)
/.ed) IY and CB will now be on every night. Which is bad for CB because of the rerun effect but OK for IY which is long, at ~ep89 in Japan. There's no reason they couldn't slip more new anime in there later. I just wish they had more variety (different day = different show, which does not seem to be the case).
More importantly... This doesn't necessarily mean the anime is gone! OS and MS Gundam was originally Toonami, and Yuu Yuu Hakushou was originally intended for it. Perhaps they're just moving back. And the high-ratin' moneymakin' Toonami ain't going nowhere. If I'm not mistaken (and I can't tell if I am since the article is
In summary, there's no solid info that adult anime is doomed on Cartoon Network, and plenty of reason to be optimistic about the expansion of Adult Swim itself.
---If you can't trust a nerd, who can you trust?
Folks, try being a little more tolerant of those of us who do care. I don't use Macs, but when a Mac story comes up, my response isn't "I don't use a Mac, why should it matter." Same with half of the topics that show up here. But I do show some courtesy to the people who are interested, and politely step away from it, and find a discussion that does matter to me instead. So just a little reciprocity please. After all, News for Nerds means more than just Tech News.
But there are enough of us who do care, not just because of the individual programming change, but because of the continuing degredation of the network and changing it into KidsWB2. Oh, and the man at the helm: Jamie Kellner. You know, the guy who thinks that it's illegal to take a dump during commercials. Hell, if that's not enough to enrage the collective, we really are screwed.
Passing thought: "Baby Looney Tunes"? Oh, my eyes, my eyes!
"You're never ready, just less unprepared."
The Dune mockery?
So what does that make the original movie? Bad toilet paper? Jeez, and I thought I was a Herbert fanboy... (alright alright, yes I'm annoyed about the entire Princess Irulan thing which DOES NOT exist in the novels. But it will make the events at the end of Dune Messiah (book plot) more believable for dumbasses. I mean normal viewers)
Meanwhile: I buy DVD anime. I don't get Cartoon Network. DVDs are better anyways.
So no I don't feel your pain (to the story poster)
No, Divas are evil Digimon :)
When I take over the world, you'll take anime over Futrama any day, and you'll like it!
simply because I've got all the DVDs of NGE The series
Death and Rebirth
and
The End of Evangelion
Suncoast had a deal where I got "The End of Evangelion"'s poster free.
I don't really give a crap, the original dragonball is hilarious regardless of the editing.
It just puzzles me that someone went to a LOT of trouble to modify it.
Seems absurd to me.
The quip at the end was really about why the heck would they change it?? Its not as if the european audience is *really* that sensitive or dumb, look at Cow and Chicken for example. Some very 'under the radar' adult comments in that...
Admittedly no 'animated tight teenage ass' tho.
Just a big fat 8 year old cow with huge udders.
And a red guy that never wears trousers and is sometimes a woman with names like Mrs Beaver.
In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
insert nightmare descent into booze and pills here
not if you have no idea whether you're going to like the shows on dvd anyway. Some of us don't have the option of sitting around and downloading anime all day either. Me and my friends all gather on Saturday nights to watch Adult Swim for the last year.
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As much as I love anime, I have to admit that it's not for everyone, or even most people (although I secretly cling to the idea that if they just saw enough anime, they would find something they'd like). The majority of people either don't know what it is, or have some preconceived notions that keep them away (e.g. it's just kid's stuff, or it's bizarre tentacle-demon cartoons for adolescent boys).
For these reasons, anime on American television already has to contend with a diminished potential audience, right from the start, but then comes the real kicker: a large chunk of the people who actually like to watch anime, still won't watch it on TV because of the dubs/editing!
Considering the difficulties, dubbed/edited anime probably won't be taking over prime-time in the forseeable future, although the market for anime on DVD will continue to grow rapidly. As far as replacing Cowboy Bebop--yeah, it's a great show, but you can't expect even CN to air the same 26 episodes forever. Gundam is pretty much guaranteed to be licensed, if it hasn't already, so you can always rent/buy/borrow/steal the episodes from somewhere.
When they replace Adult Swim with a Scooby-Doo/Captain Planet marathon, then I'll panic.
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Sensitive _European_ tastes? Europe is generally much more ok with sex in movies and television than America is. Usually European movies coming to America get edited for nudity, and American movies going to Europe get edited for violence. Didn't stop Fox from killing Tenku no Escaflowne by editing out any fightscenes when they tried to air it, though. =(
This post should be under Anime instead of Television so that slash will screen it out and I won't have to read it.
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I had a plan for about a week to make a cron/at replacement and call it "UniCRON" in your honor. I swear I'm totally friggin' serious.
You're on my friends list too...
You can probably tell I wasn't really into transformers.
THIS THING CAN TURN ON A DIME, MACROSSZERO STYLE ALSO FUCK BETA, ~NYORON
Futurama is a great addition. Now go get Family Guy!
As long as they keep Brak Show, Sealab, and ATAH, they can show "The Animated Adventures of Goatse Guy" the rest of the day for all I care!
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Who would win if Superman and Goku fought one another?
(just kidding!)
its about time that this abomination was cast back into the sesspool from whence it overflowed. without exception japanimation is bland crap devoid of creativity. perhaps they'll get a clue and spend a little more time on the actual visuals as they do on the concepts. this stuff is a bad bug-eyed nightmare of velvet elvis paintings crossed with the worst ralph bakshi alternating two picture "cartoons". good riddance.
Holy crap, don't say that. I love Space Ghost. I'll always remember that episode when he had Beck on... and towards the end he offered SG a taco that had been sitting on his dashboard. A not-so-subtle homage to that lo-fi classic, "Satan Gave Me a Taco". ^_^
I could appreciate the animators just having a good time. And the unsuspecting guests putting up with it.
THIS THING CAN TURN ON A DIME, MACROSSZERO STYLE ALSO FUCK BETA, ~NYORON
I love cartoons, have loved cartoons, and most likely will continue to enjoy it all. I have a son that is age 8 and last year I came upstairs to him watching TV on cartoon network. You would think a place like CN would be 100% geared twoards Kids... This Adult Swim is INSANE! This particular night my son was watching a cartoon with some dog who was snorting cocaine... and getting all high. What the hell are they doing?
Expanding this crap? Now there is another channel he can't watch. All hes got left now is Disney (which has too much commercialism) and Discovery Kids (which is -real- good but content gets stale quickly). Oh well.
Shin Seiki Evangelion literally means "New Century Evangelion". When it was translated to English, Gainax wanted it to be "Neon Genesis Evangelion". Don't blame the dubbers/subbers.
And yes, some subs/dubs suck. But some also rock.
However, the more we support dubbed anime here, and the more we support well-dubbed anime here, the more dubbed anime we'll see, and the more well-dubbed anime we'll see.
Remember, corporations go where the money leads.
I'd try webmaster@cartoonnetwork.com
This search yields some interesting results- cartoonnetwork@cust-help.com privacy.adultswim@turner.com are two examples
The name of the town is "bikini bottom"...
CN was running Tenchi in Tokyo during the day. They got 2/3 the way thru it and dropped it in favor of the crappy Thundercats series. Assholes. It's not the first they've done this. CN is notorious for starting a series and not finishing it. At least they actually finished Cowboy Bebop and Outlaw Star this time. But I would like to see the Tenchi series come back and run to completion this time. The anime is the only reason I even watch CN, except for Space Ghost, Brak, Sealab, and AHF. American cartoons suck.
When all else fails, run.
It was good with just cartoons for kids. I personally do not feel that it should be trying to get adults on it with anime and other like shows. They should spend more resources playing some of the real good cartoons such as Garfield, and Transformers. If they did that it would help the ratings much more because they're still targeting kids, and parents who grew up with the series now can share the shows with their kids. Have to love the nostalgia factor...
"And I'm right. I'm always right, but in this case I'm just a bit more right than I usually am." - Linus Torvalds
I didn't want to point the finger at yanks specifically, so I chose 'european'.
:)
The yanks get enough stick as it is and I didn't want to seem like I was picking on them.
But yeah...
In the free world the media isn't government run; the government is media run.
Does anyone besides me suspect that Futurama "borrowed" their Mom character from Twinkle Murdock (sp?) from the episode "Gateway Shuffle" in Cowboy Bebop? Just checking.
Happy people make bad consumers.
Let's start an "I Hate Bruce Willis" fan club.
He always looks like he's 2 inches away from going out swinging at anyone nearby.
Though I'm sad to see it change, Adult Swim really never was the anime showcase I hoped it would be. Don't get me wrong-any stateside (and UK) exposure that Cowboy Bebop can get is good, but what about when critical elements and sometimes entire episodes are edited out?
The question is: Is it better to have mainstream exposure, even if said exposure involves compromising the artists' original intent? In my case, no.
Besides, aside from Bebop, it's not like they were really taking any risks. Sailor Moon and Gundam really aren't all that left-field anyhow. What I'd really like to see is somebody doing a regular late-night run of stuff like Bebop, Lain and Jin-Roh with as few edits as possible. Something like the old Kung-Fu Gold run back in the '80's.
They can't expect a huge fan-base, but they can expect a small, very dedicated one, which, from a marketing and promotion standpoint, is much better anyway. Most of the audience for this is 20-35 year-olds, who are very likely to go out and buy this stuff on DVD if it impresses us.
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Bart Simpson on chalkboard in episode 2F18
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Obviously we can't expect high budgets; CN doesn't have that much money for original series - but their policy of, on the one hand, grabbing (nearly-free) Japanese series that do have a fair amount of adult themes, and on the other hand, only funding the creation of new shows that are nothing but adolescent humor is pretty obnoxious.
I think Cowboy Bebop is awesome. varied plots, music, amazing transitions. Its a romance action psycho thriller. And its going to be shown several times a week and pick up a larger audience. This is NOT CartoonNetwork abandoning anime. People say the big blow is for the casual fan that needs exposure; well I say now they are being exposed to something that may actually interest them. Gundam may have a cult following, but its very juvenile and nerdy for the masses. And personally, I dont get you otaku folks saying the dubs ruin it for you. I think Inuyasha sounds fine dubbed, and I wouldnt bother watching with japanese subtitles, and neither would most of America.
*smootch*
I'm satisified that they're keeping Harvey Birdman-AAL, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, and SeaLab 2021 with Howlin' Mad Murphy...fignuts!
Oh, that's right -- I'm not at home watching TV on Saturday nights! :)
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there's a 3 minute or so short animation on adult swim called captain linger, there's a few of them. i was never able to record them when they played, and no one on any of the p2p networks seems to have a copy.
does anyone have or know where i can get a copy? i'd be happy to trade for my complete collection of sealab 2021, aqua teen hunger force, brak show, harvey birdman, or futurama.
TIA.
'Shin Seiki' translates as 'new century.' 'Evangelion' is an adaptation of a German word meaning 'gospel.' Therefore, the Japanese title would translate as 'Gospel for a New Century' or 'New Century Gospel.' Gainex themselves, by the way, chose the title 'Neon Genesis: Evangelion' for the English title, which is why the average hardcore anime fan doesn't scream about it. It makes sense, if you think about it; 'Neon' invokes images of modernity, technology, cold and sterile science. 'Genesis,' aside from meaning 'beginning,' of course, evokes religious overtones to the average North American. 'Evangelion' is close enough to English words such as 'evangelism' to evoke similar images, yet odd enough to feel somehow different, or other. Kind of evocative, when you put it all together.
You'll notice all sorts of German-isms throughout the series, if you know what you're looking for.
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Thank god it's over! And I'm referring to the cruel punishment that CN was doing to all the anime fans of the world by slaughtering and butchering anime and f*cking it up. Now if u want anime, go watch I-channel on Sundays (they air undubbed anime which are sometimes subtitled, though I don't like subs either at least they are better than dubs) Awww...the benefits of being a bilingual. I gotta remind my parents how thankful I am (though when I was a kid, I hated speading my Saturdays in school).
Am I the only one on /. who hates most of Adult Swim cartoons? I find the 'jokes' to be too crass and puerile, the dialog is dull, and the animation is crude (like a paper doll cutout from the original 70's cartoons). I wouldn't be surprised if these cartoons were made by pre-teens.
There are exceptions of course; Home Movies and Baby Blues are okay. (Though the BB cartoon was obviously written for a different target audience that the comic strip.)
I don't care to watch the anime stuff, except for the Dragonball series (which I love). But at least I don't find the anime shows offensive.
A professional cartoon like Futurama would be a welcome addition to Cartoon Network's line-up.
Tenchi Muyo 1 and 2, and Tenchi Universe could stand against any TV series or movie ever made as far as quality and story line goes. Even considering that the two series are so similar, they are still each more original than almost any American sitcom that has ever been made.
People like to talk about "art" these days. Tenchi Muyo and Tenchi Universe are as high a form of art that has ever been produced by mankind.
Curse those Federation/Zeon scums, they should have used Linux Gundam!!! No serious future warriors should suffer Blue Robot Of Deathscythe Hell Custom! Good riddence for all the M$ market shares.
P.S.9. Hopefully, the new M$ Gundam S.H.I.T. series does not have Intergalactic Exploiter preinstalled.
2 years ago in college I'd stay up and watch the Midnight Run. Man, I loved the Thundercats reruns and old Voltron episodes too. Why can't they bring back more of the good classics? I don't get CN anymore (not in the basic package,) and I suppose it's just as well.
No.... ::blushes::
Funny story tho.
But if that _was_ me, I don't know whether I'd give you a hug in pity or hit you with a LART.
I'm from the Mid Atlantic, and we don't have many EBs around here. Where you from?
THIS THING CAN TURN ON A DIME, MACROSSZERO STYLE ALSO FUCK BETA, ~NYORON
Dickcheese.
Given that I don't care and I have that conspicously turned off. Instead they use "TV".
Although I'm sad to see the Anime go from adult swim, I believe it's going for a reason.
The big problem that I saw with it was that CN appeared to take the easiest and safest way out when it came to the shows they selected. They looked for shows that were pretty much dubbed already and threw them into a sat. night block. MGS has been translated (badly) for years now. Yu Yu Hakusho, although translated pretty well, is nowhere near as harsh as the actual show Was.
I would like to see Trigun, Bezerk, Slayers, Lodoss War or Hellsing here, but I know it would never happen and what would happen to it if it did. For Example Trigun has too many guns so you risk some kid blowing his head off cause he thinks he's Vash (Or as I like to refer to it, SKS - Stupid Kid Syndrome). Hellsing Would make the Christian Coailation go Insane, Would be edited to death because of all the Violence, blood and raw gore, and again back to SKS.
Like Cowboy Bebop? Good. There's a boatload of anime that is similar to it. maybe not with the same amount of charm or style, but identical when it comes to the action, gunfighting and the like. The American Viewer Seems to like the "Gunfighting, Die-Hard/Dirty Harry like, action packed, one man killing Spree" genre so give it to them instead of stuff the're not interested in at this time.
Oh. And finally, I know that almost all Recent anime anymore is either a CardCaptor Anime, (YuGiOh, Fighting Foodons, Cardcaptors, ETC) or a Pocket Monster Anime (Transformers Armada, Pokemon, Digimon, ETC). Unfortunatly this stuff is coming over here because it puts SKS to a good use when it comes to getting the Kid To spend their Parents money. Don't Judge anime based on these. There is a Lot of stuff out there that will appeal to just about anyone. You just have to go looking for it.
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What happened to "Baby Blues" and "Mission Hill". Both shows are still listed on the website, bu they haven t aired in weeks. Are they canned or just in hiatus.
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Agreed. Farscape is gone too! HOORAY! God, I hated that show. I can't wait for Sci-Fi to cancel Stargate SG-1, because that has to be the next worst piece of crap on TV right now.
Why isn't this on 'anime-fu', anyway? No one paying attention to it?
Anime geeks ALWAYS want the world to look at them when they talk about anime. It must be some sort of status thing. Newsflash: anime isn't some stupid secret club thing. It's just japanese animation, and ya know what? Most of us could care less. Heck, SOME of us even despise it.
And for the record, CN can bite my ass. They fucked over a LOT of good animation in favour of running SHIT like Dragonball 24/7. They screwed over Mainframe Entertainment by first agreeing to air ReBoot seasons 3 and 4, and then they DIDN'T. They hacked it all up and aired it irregularly, if at all--heck, American viewers didn't get to see it all. Why? DBZ and the rest of the japanese cartoon fetish.
what the hell are they thinking? they honestly need to consider their audience.
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"pain is weakness leaving the body."...he hit the nail right on the head.
Wonder why this (and that other thing this morning) are posted HERE and not on Anime-fu where others who might care about it might read this? Because Anime freaks are insistant that those of us who don't watch it "just don't get it". They think the entire world should just drop everything and worship japanese cartoons. It's a sad, pathetic superiority complex.
If they axe garbage like DBZ then maybe, MAYBE there will be room for something else. Give some space to John K for god's sake! Haul Ralph Bakshi back out of retirement. Or maybe there are animators out there completely unknown, just dying for a break.
and i hate to say it, but the addition of inu yasha to the lineup makes the disclusion of gundam (or most other big robot series) seem like a HOLY BOLT FROM THE HAND OF JESUS, as far as i'm concerned (and i've watched quite a bit of anime).
anybody who posts "well, the only one i liked was cowboy bebop" has their head in the right place, but inu yasha will change your mind-- unless, of course, it's dubbed so terribly that all the characters are somehow dull and obnoxious at the same time.
as for those who say they "don't like" anime... to somebody who knows what they're talking about, that's like saying "i don't like fruit"... you've obviously only tried the bad ones.
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Lexx is drek?
Well, of course it is!!! But it's *MY* kind of drek.
Never attribute to stupidity what can be construed as a monopoly preservation tactic.
For a new all anime / late night Hentai station to be formed... All of the Geeks should unite and form this channel, then my friends, we can get good quality shows on at all times. Wait, did I just use the word quality and hentai in the same sentance? OMG!!
I get enough 'soap operas' on daytime TV and switching past the SOAP channel. Anime seems so similar to me; I just don't enjoy it- there's so much backstory...and all the flashy radiants that occur when someone says something profound cheapens it for me.
Now, if Neil Gaiman does Sandman in Anime, I'm buying the CD set!
And some of the cartoons on AS are kinda dumb...even if they have hilarious dialog. A couple of nights ago I saw a meatball set fire to the neighbor's yard...and a milkshake get abducted by Germanic aliens. It's ugly, but it's funny and absurd....and most importantly: Not been done to death!
And as boring as it might sound, I like the Katz-esque cartoon a lot. I could watch it like we did Seinfeld when it first came out. What's it called? The one with Coach Mc Gurk...
"I don't know, Brandon...it never came up..."
Of course, I'm probably in the minority...AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING FUTURAMA FOR A CHANGE! I kept missing it when it was on mainstream TV somehow...
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As much really good anime that exists, we need an all anime channel. Gundam, Outlaw Star, DBZ, Cowboy Bebop, Starblazers, Tenchi, Sailor Moon, Nadesico, Tenchi, anime movie's, hell it would be easy to fill a day with shows, run a set mornings, and repeat them in the evenings for us 9-5 guys.
You cannot really expect cartoon network to maintain content that please everyone, just look at the people praising Futurama right now.
I pray they never get rid of DBZ, that will be the day I go broke, or run out of hard drive space, obtaining each episode "off air".
I enjoy Adult Swim. It is always fun to get a 12 pack and sit with friends and watch some hilarious cartoons, but the Anime was very out of place. You had comedies like Harvey Birdman Atty. at Law and Home Movies, then you had Cowboy Bebop. To quote a famouse Sesame Street tune:
"One of these things does not belong here. One of these things is not the same"
Don't get me wrone I love Anime but there are better slots for it on CN.
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At least Lynch's Dune had style. Yeah, they diverged pretty heavily from the story of the novel. Yeah, Sting is a little embarrassing. But it's one of the best looking films of the 80's. And come on, José Ferrer is the Emperor, and Kenneth McMillan positively rocked as the Baron.
The Sci-Fi Channel miniseries just had no style, visually or otherwise. Given the choice, I'd rather watch Lynch's version.
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I know some people that are fairly well connected in the industry and I have heard that they have been prepping either a full network and/or an Anime pay-per-view channel. I also believe that ADV is somewhat involved (or it could be seperate-2 diff sources).
Of course, they could be full of shit, but it kinda makes sense...
the story, or at least the butchered version that manages to get on TV here in the US, seems hollow and lacks any semblence of warmth. I find it hard to care about any of the characters. Cowboy Bebop grows on ya, but it has always had good character development.
errr....umm...*whooosh* *whoosh* Is this thing on ?
Ok, here is the lowdown for those of you that don't follow the Adult Swim (AS) news postings on other sites.
Adult Swim was designed to be a late night block of programming designed to appeal to older audiences, and was intended to be aired after the normal pre-teen audience of CN was in bed.
The first season of AS, took off, as CN was able to secure the rights to many cartoons that never recieved their full run on their original stations. (Home Movies), it also became home to the williams' street cartoons (sealab 2021, Aqua teen hunger force, harvey birdman, Space Ghost C2C) The thursday airing was identical to the Sunday airing.
The original airing I believe was
1 Hour of home movies
1 hour of williams street
1 Hour of Cowboy Bebop
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The ads with fat people swimming in a pool gave the brand an identity, as many of the targeted viewers remember lothing adults that could swim at their own risk at public pools and YMCA's when the lifeguards took their break every hour.
Cowboy bebop was only slightly edited to remove a few S words, a few T+A shots, 1 nude scene, and some blood. The content was never really altered compared to other anime.
The big censoring of bebop came after 9/11. During the first run of Cowboy bebop, Episode #22 was never aired because of the terrorist/bombing subject matter and the building that was blown up that was way too close to looking like the WTC. (bebop was made in 98).
Soon after spring 2002, CN changed AS to AS comedy on sunday nights, and AS action on saturday nights. This was an interesting move. Many fans found problems with the anime censoring. The reason is that cartoon network only had some new anime ready for air, and they originally intended to air it for toonami, so it was edited to toonami's standards. New aquisitions will be edited to the AS standard.
Although the comedy/action split still produced ratings, it also devided the AS audiences.
Now the new schedule has anime and comedy runing next to each other again, and to quote why this is a good thing is the owner of jazzmess.com a cowboy bebop fansite, Fata Morgana:
My personal thoughts on this change: I like the fact that the different sides of the block are mixed again. To a certain degree, putting "action" and "comedy" on different nights felt as though they were just trying to segregate the anime from the other animation. What this doesn't leave much room for, in my opinion, are "accidents." By which I mean, that Space Ghost fan who thinks that anime is crap accidentally leaving the television on after SG and discovering the greatness that is Cowboy Bebop. Or the other side of the issue, the anime fan who's waiting for CB turning to Cartoon Network a little early and accidentally catching the last ten minutes of Home Movies and realizing that yes, in fact, it's damn funny. Another possible (though not perhaps probable) effect of this change is that animation (Japanese or otherwise) that doesn't quite fit the "action" or "comedy" mold might get a chance to be shown on the block. Pure speculation, of course,
So ends the current history of AS. CN is trying to pickup rights to animation that never really recieved their fair shot by the networks they started on. (cowboy bebop only aired half their episodes in their first japanese run). And in some cases the response is good enough to put some shows back in production (home movies).
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Kill my last, best source of anime. ;) I'm too poor to buy the DVDs, and won't go into Blockbuster on moral grounds (I used to work for them!), plus the closest one is a 1/2 hour away. The local video store just gives me a blank stare when I ask for any. (Or any movie more than 2 or 3 years old.)
What if they just put NEW anime with just Subtitle with the original japanese. That would be so cool since americans feel in love ever since japanese bands appeared on a layer cartoon (blink blink)...
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To be honest the only shows I watch on Cartoon Network are Cowboy Bebop and Dragon Ball if I am bored..Otherwise I'll buy the stuff I like on DVD. As for the there sunday night schedule..I wish they'd get ride of it.
I think people may be jumping to conclusions too quickly about CN and their plans for anime. A lot of the early reports on this seem to come from the mediaweek article, which had some serious factual errors. I would wait and see for more announcements from Cartoon Network on actual programming. We already know that Cartoon Network will be debuting two new anime TV shows....The Big O season 2 and the new TV series Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex in the next few months. Most likely shows will be shifted in and out of the lineup. But it doesn't mean that any shows are necessarily permanently cancelled (current shows like Ripping Friends and the Oblongs have limited episode counts and can't be re-run endlessly).....it's also not definite that Cowboy Bebop and Inuyasha will be airing every night of the adult swim block, more likely they will shift things so multiple shows are showing on different days of the week. Anyway, just not a good idea to jump to conclusions, as clearly there still isn't a whole lot of information out there. Apparently the main reason the saturday block was cut was because it was getting good ratings but mainly from younger kids, who are able to stay up later on saturday nights, and CN isn't looking for kids in their ratings for the Adult Swim programming. -Tom
I've been a big anime fan since '95, and I'm just floored by how much commercial anime is out there, and by how quickly new series are licensed. For example, Chobits was licensed before the first season even finished in Japan. .Hack//Sign had similar timing.
New anime companies are springing up out of the woodwork these days. I remember when you bought your tapes from AnimEigo, Manga Video, ADVision, Viz, Pioneer, and U.S. Manga Corps. There were a couple of smaller companies out there who existed largely to publish one or two shows, but that was about it. Now there are some 15 or so companies all buying up anime as fast as they can negotiate deals, and all hoping to get serious money off a single consumer-base.
It's not going to happen. Anime fandom has grown exponentially in the last two years, but I can't see it being anywhere near big enough to support all the companies out there. A lot of them are going to crash and burn, because their little money-making ventures didn't pan out. Anime as it currently stands is a fad. Sure, to us, its devoted followers, it represents pretty drawings, real plots, and disproportionately good musical scores. But to the people who are generating the most money for these companies, it's just a fad.
Cartoon Network seems to have noticed that you can't just slap the word "anime" on something and expect people to watch it, and I have a feeling that when all the things that were licensed at Anime Expo this year hit the streets, we're going to see similar behavior from the DVD distributors.
The anime market in America is going to crash in a big way in the next year or so, and honestly, I'm not going to miss it. I'd miss it if I had some faith that the two-dozen or so companies translating anime and manga (the 15 quoted was just for anime) actually cared about the quality of their work. I'd care if I could actually afford to buy even a tenth of what is put out commercially. If 80% of these companies went out of business tomorrow, I probably wouldn't notice. The hard-core fans would just go back to their fansubs, and that would be that.
Ten years later, we'll all have nostalgia for those funky Japanese cartoons we all used to watch. The real anime boom won't come until all cultural barriers are broken down, and we can watch Japanese, Chinese, French and Israeli TV just as easily as we watch Fox and NBC. By then there will be nothing strange about it.
old news.
There is no point in watching the Saturday version since they just repeat the same shows over and over again. It would be different if when one show had finished its run it would be replaced by another and given a rest. But no, I can watch the same exact episodes of Bebop only so much and then what's the point?
Then there is the matter of quality. It runs from excelent, the afore mentioned Cowboy Bebop, to the festering vile craptacular Pilot Canidate for Goddess.
i think the reference was to the word "onine", which can be both read as a number (0.9) or as a overgeneralization of the -nine (assanine: of/like an ass, porcinie: of/like a pig, murine: of/like a mouse, ursine: of/like a bear) to describe unit 01 as being devilishly hard to get to sync with a pilot... or maybe it's demonic "he i have free will so i'm gonna go eat something and make the control-room chick sick" mode.
but i could just be defending their pick of words in what was a confusing enough series
--- As to make my comment seem, by comparison, more intelegent... doodie doodie doodie poop poop poop!
Don't make me shatter your shikon no tama you pouch of crap. Gundam blows sweatsack.
Really weirds me out they got Ranma's voice for Inuyasha though. I feel so.... uncomfortable. This really messes with my bi-sexual feelings for Ranma.
The TV series is what is shown (dubbed/edited) on CN. Oolong isn't introduced until after the flashing. I don't recall if Goku took off Bulma's panties originally in that version.
Curse of the Blood Rubies is a 48-minute version of the first quest to find the Dragonballs. Oolong is introduced before the flashing, and I know that Goku took off Bulma's panties in this version (Don't ask how :D).
The movie is different from the TV series in many other ways, but the general idea is the same. Drawing from other Toonami shows as an example: It's similar to the differences between Tenchi Muyo and Tenchi Universe.
the circle is now complete. when we started there were those who wonder who is the master. now everyone know. i fucking make you look pathetic, tevis. i knew on top of the mac zealotry and sexlessness and RPG playing there was a cherry on top. you are an ANIMEFAG as well. HAHAHAHAHA.
Nabuto naoiki matooki batootoo. yeah. shez going to fuck you if you know japanese. yeah. right. keep telling yourself that. Internet Bride online from cambodia would leave you once she saw what a fucking lamer you are, and the super small cock probably doesnt help
I work for the company who makes Home Movies... kind of.
... I guess a cool adult cartoon is being made by a book-club company :)
We used to be Tom Snyder Productions (www.tomsnyder.com) and we had a division called Soup 2 Nuts (www.soup2nuts.com). We were owned by Harlequin (you know... the cheesy romance novel guys) but then we got bought by Scholastic (www.scholastic.com) (surely you filled out those book-club forms when you were a kid) and now Tom Snyder and Soup 2 Nuts are divisions of Scholastic.
So
P.S. S2N also made Dr. Katz a while back.
I agree, I know this may make me unpopular around here, but I hate anime (most anime).
The rest of adult swim is great, particullary the Aqua Teen Hunger Force.
Where else can fast food crime fighters rid the world of giant evil rap star spiders?
No where but Adult Swim...
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Had to read through that submission twice to make sure I wasn't just drunk and had misread it the first time.
Yeah, I guess it really said that.
Congratulations to the submitter - aside from the proper name "Cartoon Network", I have no idea what you're talking about.
And yes, now I'm frustrated.
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Anime sucks!
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." --Unknown
What ever will we do?! Your favorite cartoons aren't on?! And some people have the GALL to complain about things like unnecessary war and children starving in the streets of third-world nations. I swear, if people don't get their priorities straight soon, the whole world is going to collapse in upon it self and there will be ANARCHY!
how dare they rm -rf my precious action block on saturdays. That was the only reason i would stay up that late(besides CS and BF1942 ^ ^)
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No contest. A great book will always win over anything anime, animated, audio, or video. Why settle for less than the best (that you can get) in anything? :{)||
goo, goo, boo, hoo.
It looks like the Cartoon Network figured out what I had known all along. The only people who watch Anime are Slashdot geeks and nerds, and that is not a demographic large enough to satisfy ANY sponser.
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Inuyasha was not what i intended. I meant to tune in to A science special on mummification. I accidentally ended up on the cartoon network watching InuYasha, and haven't gotten free since. I resisted the anime invasion, i thought i was safe- a friend just about tied me down to make me watch some... and those seeds have borne fruit.... how can i be addicted to such an obvious ploy for audience? *sigh* but since i refuse to give up my addictions once i've got them, i guess i'm stuck. Did anyone else fiercely resist the anime craze? Maybe it's something in the water.
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Glad I know CowboyNeal only uses IRC for messaging for the 100000th time.
no reason to get cable now!
Yeah, I know it was getting anime out into the main stream, but I'd be happy with an HBO type channel where they could show cowboy bebop in it's complete form without having to edit it into something acceptable for the censors...
Yes Francis, the world has gone crazy.
I've been falling behind on my anime viewing in recent years, how about some recommendations of, preferably, anime movies that I can buy or rent on DVD. My past favorites have been Akira, Laputa, Totoro, Ghost in the Shell. I'm looking forward to seeing Sprited Away this weekend. Thanks!
Blockbuster has the most depressing selection of anime I've ever found. Hollywood Video has a slightly better selection, but it's still lacking. The greatest annoyance is when they buy the first two discs or tapes of a series like Neon Genesis Evangelion and never mind about the rest.
Even Netflix suffers this problem, and it's annoyed me enough to make me cancel my subscription in favor of GreenCine, another online DVD rental store that charges $2 more a month than Netflix but has an exponentially more complete anime collection. I've only used them a month and I'm already relying on them for my commercial- and edit-free anime fix.
Gundam sucks. Just don't take away my Bebop and we're cool.
I'd love to see more anime on CN, but I won't miss what they've been playing.
Only 3 times have I seen anime on CN and it not been DBZ, which I don't really care for.
I saw an ep of Cowboy Beebop once, but couldn't get into it from just that one ep. I don't know that its the kind of show I'd bother getting into, anyway.
Gunsmith Cats was fun.
I got hooked by cowboy bebop in a big way. A buddy owned all the DVD's and I started watching the series. Something like 7 DVD's with 5 episodes each or so. For those that don't know there is also a Cowboy Bebop movie out there called Cowboy Bebop - Knockin' on Heaven's Door (Movie). I still haven't tracked it down but its on my list of things to do. The offical movie site is http://www.cowboybebop.com/english/door I found a review at http://www.c1anime.com/series/cbmovie.php
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I like to browse at -1. Anime really brings out the trolls. Man /. rocks!
Now I have to search for a movie file of Curse of the Blood Rubies :)
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we don't have one here. I think they have one across the river at NDSU, but it's likely filled with scary nerds who will hit on any girl who talks to them so to me that doesn't sound too fun:)
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NUFF SAID!
Some genius in AOL/TIME/TURNER/SATAN's Workshop/C Networks decided that they can make more money removing that stuff that has no Stateside Products in Toys R Us and replace it with something that makes registers go "Ching-Ching". DBZ is cool because you can ignore the dialogue and just ooh and ahh at the A$$ kicking that goes on between cartoon midgets/kids. PLUS, they have LOADS of that shit at Toys R Us!
Hell, I work in the advertising business (yes, I know, my soul is damned to hell...) and I still think it's a stupid way to run a network. But who the fuck cares what I think, I watch Farscape...
I do think Outlaw Star kicks all holy crap, even edited to be almost nonsensical (yeah, my spelling sux!)
What's with the relationship between Fry and Shake? They're both guys, but they act like a couple and have a kid (Meatball). It doesn't seem like they're supposed to be gay, but if they're just roommates, why the kid?
Carl rules!
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There was a Sealab episode about fueng shuei that ended with it being a video game played by meatwad and shake from Aqua Teen. It was hysterical!
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Lets me just start off with a big damn them. I'm a gundam fan and this is bull crap. I can remember when they showed Mobile Suit Gundam during their Tonami block. They didn't finish the series then to. It's probably them joining Bandai to try and sell more. They should start an all Anime channel, I know they got enough to show. Let Me Start. Mobile Suit Gundam, 0080 War in a Pocket, 8th Mobile Suit Team, 0083 Stardust Memory, Gundam Wing, G Gundam, Endless Waltz, Cowboy Bebop, Speed Racer, InuYasha, Outlaw Star, Tenchi Muyo, Tenchi Universe, Tenchi in Tokyo, Sailor Moon, Zoids: Chaotic Century, Zoids Century Zero, Pilot Candidate, Dragon Ball, and Dragon Ball Z, just to name a few! I think that is more that enough for them to make an all Anime Channel. Besides aren't they the ones that made these shows as popular as they are now. Without us the fan they wouldn't be what they are today.
... before I could come to any conclusion it occurred to me that my speech
or my silence, indeed any action of mine, would be a mere futility. What
did it matter what anyone knew or ignored? What did it matter who was
manager? One gets sometimes such a flash of insight. The essentials of
this affair lay deep under the surface, beyond my reach, and beyond my
power of meddling.
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