People with ADHD are normal in every way, the only difference is, people with ADHD prefer to multitask and get bored focusing on one thing for too long.
ADD is far from multitasking. I have ADD and I have the impulse to focus on something else constantly, but I can only effectively do one thing at a time. Before I figured out how to control the symptoms (for the most part) I would never finish anything, I would start one thing with the intention of finishing it, and then I would, without explanation, change tasks, NEVER RETURNING TO THE FIRST. That is not multitasking, that is ADD.
Anyone who thinks people with ADD can multitask doesn't understand ADD.
You missed the point, ADD isn't multitasking, it is the opposite, it is doing exactly one thing at a time and then switching to something else, without any thought or expctation of going back to task one.
Back in high school I was that freak in geometry class that had a completely differant, and still correct, proof from everyone else 90% of the time. People with ADD see the world differently, and this can be exploited!
I already posted my story, you can read it here...
But as someone who has ADD (not major) I am going to have to disagree. I am no longer medicated, but I think that I would not have been able to learn to control ADD without Ritalin. When I was put on Ritalin for limited periods of time (only on school days, only through the school day, I was off weekends, evenings and summers) I experienced the mind set of concentration. I learned what it felt like to concentrate, I also learned to seek that feeling, and hold on to it.
Ritalin alone did not teach me anything, but it was a (necessary in my opinion) major part of learning to deal with ADD for me.
I agree that drugs are used too soon and too often, and for too long, but to describe them as the enemy is just closed minded.
That might all be true, but I think you are approaching the problem in the wrong manner. We should not be asking ourselves "Is this a disease that can be treated with meds?", instead we should be asking "Can we substantially improve one's quality of life with meds?"
I think that the latter is a better question.
life story... I was a D student in K-2nd grade, I was very upset about this, because my father was a neuroscientist, my mother is a very intelligent homemaker, and my brother is quite smart as well. I was the lone blemish of stupidity in a brilliant family (my uncle and some of my cousins were like me, but lived 1000 miles away, so I didn't really know). My parents, and my 3rd grade teacher realized that I was not dumb, I just couldn't focus on one thing at a time. There are many examples from my childhood of this, and it was not just related to stuff I didn't like, or found boring. One time, my best friend was on his way over to come play, I went to my room to change clothes so I could play outside, I started changing clothes, and stopped mid way through to play with a toy on my dresser. I was wearing one sock, and a T-shirt, I had not forgotten that I needed to change, I just became more interested in the toy. I got put on Ritalin half way through the 3rd grade after an ADD (no hyperactivity) diagnosis. The next year I had a 3.5 GPA, I suddenly had self esteem, and confidence. I was medicated till the 8th grade, then I was weaned off of Ritalin, learning to control my symptoms was difficult, but manageable. I had to develop systems for just about everything (the bindings of books in my locker faced different directions depending on whether or not I had home work in that class, and so on...), and my grades dipped for a year, but they came back up.
I still have what my girlfriend and I call 'ADD moments' sometimes I go into blank stares for a couple minutes while putting on my shoes or something. I also often change thoughts on a dime, I can be writing a note to self one second, and then mid sentence (sometimes mid word) switch to googling for info on road bikes. Now, I am mature enough to deal with it, and I have learned to do so, when I was 8, there was no way in hell.
Learning to handle ADD was difficult, but possible, I don't think I could have done it without a lot of help from my parents, my teachers and Ritalin. I am sure I would have wound up as an unhappy sanitation worker without Ritalin, now, I love life, and my job in the aerospace industry ain't bad either.
Ritalin had an enormous positive impact on my life, and regardless of whether or not ADD is a disease, it helped me. We should be more concerned with whether or not we can help, than whether or not ADD is a disease.
I am going to have to respectfully disagree. Speaking as an aerodynamicist at a company that builds both jets and rockets.
For the first, you need to figure out how airfoils work to produce lift (helicopter blades count in this category), and figure out how to move the air that surrounds your craft to produce thrust.
All you need is thrust, lift is just one kind of thrust, the rotating blades of a helicopter, produce a lifting force which is the thrust that lifts the aircraft. Other sources of thrust would work as well [jet engine for instance (yes, modern jets do contain airfoils, but they don't need to in order to be a jet and produce thrust)]
There's a world of difference between a jet engine and a rocket engine. There's a world of difference between something light and strong enough to glide and something light and strong enough to have a 40:1 wet:dry weight and make orbit. It's not a difference of scale - it's a difference of fundamental type of device.
No, they are both devices that expel matter with a higher momentum than it was acquired at, in the case of a rocket you carry the matter with, and in the case of a jet, you pick it up along the way, fundamentally the same.
yes there is a drastic difference in the amount of technology required for atmospheric flight and space flight, but it is an evolutionary difference, not a revolutionary difference. I do agree that the underlying revolution was industrial...
I would say that comparing heavier than air flight and space flight is like comparing a 60's era computer and the modern PC. The later is a hell of a lot more impressive, but not fundamentally different. If you are going to pull out the tubes vs. silicon discussion then you obviously don't grasp the scale of the difference that I am speaking of...
A lot of truckers forge their records so they can drive longer hours, this has been listed as a contributing factor in many fatal accidents... Next time you are driving down the interstate and see an open weigh station, try to remember if you saw a line of trucks on a ramp before that one. The line is full of truckers cooking their books to make it look like they slept enough...
I can't make it tonight, but I would really like someone to make a request for me.
I would like to see a controversy modifier. Similar to any of the other modifiers, add points to the score of comments that have been modded up and down repeatedly.
Some of the best comments that I have read are the type that many people will love, and many others will hate. As a result they never get modded above 2 or 3 (for long anyway) before someone decides it is overrated, or flamebate... I would like to be able to customize my view so I can see more of these comments as they are often very thought provoking.
Being free is not about being free from possibly harm, it is about being free to say and think what you want, and to be free from unreasonable search and seizure, and to have freedom of association.
Right. None of which are being infringed.
I disagree. The supreme court has decided that free speech means that you have the right to anonymous free speech. All of this stuff about monitoring the populace removes the possibility of me being able to speak my mind without repercussion. If I say that I think 'bad guy x' is a wonderful person who should be supported, I am allowed to think that, but with all the surveillance that would get me put on a watch list which is equivalent to making my life a living hell.
Also, correct me if I am wrong, a warrant is needed for a wire tap because it is considered a form of search which must be determined to be reasonable by a judge. Why then shouldn't the same be true of other electronic communication?
So, this is both an infringement of the fist and a major infringement of the forth.
This is grotesquely irresponsible, but the thing about it that really turns my stomach is the fact that somebody spent time and effort on this. Time and effort that could have been spent on something productive, or helpful, or even entertaining. This is just monstrous.
On the contrary, it is grotesquely irresponsible to go around invading the privacy of millions of innocents in the hope that you might also be invading the privacy of a terrorist.
Being free is not about being free from possibly harm, it is about being free to say and think what you want, and to be free from unreasonable search and seizure, and to have freedom of association.
All this BS about protecting our freedoms while they are taking them away to give us some security really gets me pissed off. Assuming you're American, I want you to think about something: What is "the land of the free and the home of the brave"? I propose that we are no longer brave, and because of this we are throwing away our freedoms to get a little protection. Well screw that, I would rather take the chance of being killed by a terrorist (brave) than live in an authoritarian state (not free).
People doing projects like this are very noble indeed, they are discouraging the use of systems that destroy freedom by attempting to make them useless.
I agree completely that higher salaries would not suddenly make teacher care more, but it might attract some other highly intelligent people to the profession in about 4 years.
Myself, I am actually in the process of taking courses to become a teacher (more difficult in NY than most other states, otherwise I would be one next year...). I likely would have studied math or physics education in college if teachers were paid better, but since they aren't... I have spent a few years as an aerospace engineer, making money, but not enjoying my job (I LOVED engineering school, and working as a tutor while I was there, but industry sucks!).
Do I think teachers should make more money? Yes. Do I think that would make things better overnight? No. Do I think that teachers ever will be paid better? Hell No! Do I know why? Yes, there are to many suckers like me who love to see people learn...
Should they even care? I really fail to understand how this is a bad thing. I learned cursive in school but don't use it anymore, because I can type faster and print more far legibly... the only thing that I use cursive for is my signature. And I don't miss it one bit.
Students today need cursive to succeed in society about as much as I need Morse code to listen to NPR during drive time... They are both skills that will be kept up by small numbers of enthusiasts, and society at large will have only a passing knowledge of the subject, and will be no worse off for it...
They actually both had the same ticket... she had gotten a duplicate boarding pass.
They do this all the time, it is called overbooking.
The airlines want every seat full on every flight (if possible), so they play the averages and assume a small percentage of no shows. When more people with tickets show up than they have seats, they start offering deals (free round trip in the future...) to people traveling alone if they will take a later flight.
You are really overstating things... Most americans don't eat more than 3000.
I eat 4500-6000 depending on how heavily I am training, and I am a marathoner. Most people exhibit looks of shock when I get our my lunch bag at work, it takes me about an hour and a half of slow steady eating for both lunch and dinner. This is far from the american norm...
Nope I am consistent: We taught him to fight off infidels in Muslim lands through calls to holy war (lying down with dogs). Then in an unrelated incident we went to war in a Muslim land (our military presence in Saudi Arabia for GWI was the main beef). Suddenly we are the infidels in a Muslim land (getting fleas).
Can you see the independence of the 2 events? By the way, I never said that everything was America's fault, you said I think that...
By your logic, the US government is responsible for all the Tim McVeighs and John Malvos of the world because the Army teached them how to shoot and kill.
Nope, it would be like if we had found they were wonderful leaders and made them generals with armies to command.
You say this:You never know how history would have turned out. but you said this too:And if that would have happened, we wouldn't be on Slashdot. We'd be working on some ditzy farm, Comrade.
Well, which is it? I think it is the former (not knowing about history...). My opinion is that the cold war might have gone on longer, but I think that the final outcome would be very similar.
On another note: I was not around for much of the cold war, so maybe an older/. reader could help me out on a couple things. Did the cold war seem very similar to the terror war? You know what I mean, mostly hype designed to generate patriotic followers?
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I'd assume that the dragonfly merely tries to keep the thing it's hiding from in the same position on *its* retina.
A nice idea, but it wouldn't work...
The stalking party can move it's eyes around in it's socket or turn it's head. Either of those would case a change the position on the observing retina, but not on the dragonfly's...
Nobody in his right mind thinks OBL hates us because we helped him expel the soviets, but what we did do is teach him how to recruit holy warriors to fight the infidels.
While the reasons for his hatred of us are unrelated to our support for him, his strength in the region is not. We knew that he was a vicious character, but we supported him anyway, just because of a common enemy. And it bit us in the ass.
Please attack my logic, or my data, if you can, but if you can't... Consider the posibility that maybe this is not leftist tripe.
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People with ADHD are normal in every way, the only difference is, people with ADHD prefer to multitask and get bored focusing on one thing for too long.
ADD is far from multitasking. I have ADD and I have the impulse to focus on something else constantly, but I can only effectively do one thing at a time. Before I figured out how to control the symptoms (for the most part) I would never finish anything, I would start one thing with the intention of finishing it, and then I would, without explanation, change tasks, NEVER RETURNING TO THE FIRST. That is not multitasking, that is ADD.
Anyone who thinks people with ADD can multitask doesn't understand ADD.
You missed the point, ADD isn't multitasking, it is the opposite, it is doing exactly one thing at a time and then switching to something else, without any thought or expctation of going back to task one.
I have ADD, and this guy is right on!
Back in high school I was that freak in geometry class that had a completely differant, and still correct, proof from everyone else 90% of the time. People with ADD see the world differently, and this can be exploited!
I already posted my story, you can read it here...
But as someone who has ADD (not major) I am going to have to disagree. I am no longer medicated, but I think that I would not have been able to learn to control ADD without Ritalin. When I was put on Ritalin for limited periods of time (only on school days, only through the school day, I was off weekends, evenings and summers) I experienced the mind set of concentration. I learned what it felt like to concentrate, I also learned to seek that feeling, and hold on to it.
Ritalin alone did not teach me anything, but it was a (necessary in my opinion) major part of learning to deal with ADD for me.
I agree that drugs are used too soon and too often, and for too long, but to describe them as the enemy is just closed minded.
That might all be true, but I think you are approaching the problem in the wrong manner. We should not be asking ourselves "Is this a disease that can be treated with meds?", instead we should be asking "Can we substantially improve one's quality of life with meds?"
I think that the latter is a better question.
life story...
I was a D student in K-2nd grade, I was very upset about this, because my father was a neuroscientist, my mother is a very intelligent homemaker, and my brother is quite smart as well. I was the lone blemish of stupidity in a brilliant family (my uncle and some of my cousins were like me, but lived 1000 miles away, so I didn't really know). My parents, and my 3rd grade teacher realized that I was not dumb, I just couldn't focus on one thing at a time. There are many examples from my childhood of this, and it was not just related to stuff I didn't like, or found boring.
One time, my best friend was on his way over to come play, I went to my room to change clothes so I could play outside, I started changing clothes, and stopped mid way through to play with a toy on my dresser. I was wearing one sock, and a T-shirt, I had not forgotten that I needed to change, I just became more interested in the toy.
I got put on Ritalin half way through the 3rd grade after an ADD (no hyperactivity) diagnosis. The next year I had a 3.5 GPA, I suddenly had self esteem, and confidence. I was medicated till the 8th grade, then I was weaned off of Ritalin, learning to control my symptoms was difficult, but manageable. I had to develop systems for just about everything (the bindings of books in my locker faced different directions depending on whether or not I had home work in that class, and so on...), and my grades dipped for a year, but they came back up.
I still have what my girlfriend and I call 'ADD moments' sometimes I go into blank stares for a couple minutes while putting on my shoes or something. I also often change thoughts on a dime, I can be writing a note to self one second, and then mid sentence (sometimes mid word) switch to googling for info on road bikes. Now, I am mature enough to deal with it, and I have learned to do so, when I was 8, there was no way in hell.
Learning to handle ADD was difficult, but possible, I don't think I could have done it without a lot of help from my parents, my teachers and Ritalin. I am sure I would have wound up as an unhappy sanitation worker without Ritalin, now, I love life, and my job in the aerospace industry ain't bad either.
Ritalin had an enormous positive impact on my life, and regardless of whether or not ADD is a disease, it helped me. We should be more concerned with whether or not we can help, than whether or not ADD is a disease.
I am going to have to respectfully disagree. Speaking as an aerodynamicist at a company that builds both jets and rockets.
For the first, you need to figure out how airfoils work to produce lift (helicopter blades count in this category), and figure out how to move the air that surrounds your craft to produce thrust.
All you need is thrust, lift is just one kind of thrust, the rotating blades of a helicopter, produce a lifting force which is the thrust that lifts the aircraft. Other sources of thrust would work as well [jet engine for instance (yes, modern jets do contain airfoils, but they don't need to in order to be a jet and produce thrust)]
There's a world of difference between a jet engine and a rocket engine. There's a world of difference between something light and strong enough to glide and something light and strong enough to have a 40:1 wet:dry weight and make orbit. It's not a difference of scale - it's a difference of fundamental type of device.
No, they are both devices that expel matter with a higher momentum than it was acquired at, in the case of a rocket you carry the matter with, and in the case of a jet, you pick it up along the way, fundamentally the same.
yes there is a drastic difference in the amount of technology required for atmospheric flight and space flight, but it is an evolutionary difference, not a revolutionary difference. I do agree that the underlying revolution was industrial...
I would say that comparing heavier than air flight and space flight is like comparing a 60's era computer and the modern PC. The later is a hell of a lot more impressive, but not fundamentally different. If you are going to pull out the tubes vs. silicon discussion then you obviously don't grasp the scale of the difference that I am speaking of...
You don't get much news do you?
A lot of truckers forge their records so they can drive longer hours, this has been listed as a contributing factor in many fatal accidents... Next time you are driving down the interstate and see an open weigh station, try to remember if you saw a line of trucks on a ramp before that one. The line is full of truckers cooking their books to make it look like they slept enough...
...are there really that many truckers hauling around laptops?
Yes,
Particularly among the owner/operator crowd (a large subset of truckers...) these folks are running a business out of their truck...
I submitted that story too, and had it promptly rejected... oh well...
I can't make it tonight, but I would really like someone to make a request for me.
I would like to see a controversy modifier. Similar to any of the other modifiers, add points to the score of comments that have been modded up and down repeatedly.
Some of the best comments that I have read are the type that many people will love, and many others will hate. As a result they never get modded above 2 or 3 (for long anyway) before someone decides it is overrated, or flamebate... I would like to be able to customize my view so I can see more of these comments as they are often very thought provoking.
The best swimmers are among the people with the lowest body fat, just look at triathletes, and olympic swimmers.
I used to be much more plump than I am now, and swimming was no easier (perhaps harder) then, than now.
People just weren't taught to swim.
I don't know about you, but I pay for email as well...
Being free is not about being free from possibly harm, it is about being free to say and think what you want, and to be free from unreasonable search and seizure, and to have freedom of association.
Right. None of which are being infringed.
I disagree. The supreme court has decided that free speech means that you have the right to anonymous free speech. All of this stuff about monitoring the populace removes the possibility of me being able to speak my mind without repercussion. If I say that I think 'bad guy x' is a wonderful person who should be supported, I am allowed to think that, but with all the surveillance that would get me put on a watch list which is equivalent to making my life a living hell.
Also, correct me if I am wrong, a warrant is needed for a wire tap because it is considered a form of search which must be determined to be reasonable by a judge. Why then shouldn't the same be true of other electronic communication?
So, this is both an infringement of the fist and a major infringement of the forth.
This is grotesquely irresponsible, but the thing about it that really turns my stomach is the fact that somebody spent time and effort on this. Time and effort that could have been spent on something productive, or helpful, or even entertaining. This is just monstrous.
On the contrary, it is grotesquely irresponsible to go around invading the privacy of millions of innocents in the hope that you might also be invading the privacy of a terrorist.
Being free is not about being free from possibly harm, it is about being free to say and think what you want, and to be free from unreasonable search and seizure, and to have freedom of association.
All this BS about protecting our freedoms while they are taking them away to give us some security really gets me pissed off. Assuming you're American, I want you to think about something: What is "the land of the free and the home of the brave"? I propose that we are no longer brave, and because of this we are throwing away our freedoms to get a little protection. Well screw that, I would rather take the chance of being killed by a terrorist (brave) than live in an authoritarian state (not free).
People doing projects like this are very noble indeed, they are discouraging the use of systems that destroy freedom by attempting to make them useless.
In 1959 Koshima macaque monkeys learned to swim, ever since then the entire group can swim...
Also in American colonial times the only human swimmers were witches...
The other arguments are interesting, but the swimming one is weak.
I agree completely that higher salaries would not suddenly make teacher care more, but it might attract some other highly intelligent people to the profession in about 4 years.
Myself, I am actually in the process of taking courses to become a teacher (more difficult in NY than most other states, otherwise I would be one next year...). I likely would have studied math or physics education in college if teachers were paid better, but since they aren't... I have spent a few years as an aerospace engineer, making money, but not enjoying my job (I LOVED engineering school, and working as a tutor while I was there, but industry sucks!).
Do I think teachers should make more money? Yes.
Do I think that would make things better overnight? No.
Do I think that teachers ever will be paid better? Hell No!
Do I know why? Yes, there are to many suckers like me who love to see people learn...
So if the kids are stuck in a power outage and need to leave a message for someone, how exactly do you propose they do it?
Print, in all caps if they have to, you can figure that out just by knowing what letters look like when they are typed (being able to read...).
educators don't get paid enough to care
Should they even care? I really fail to understand how this is a bad thing. I learned cursive in school but don't use it anymore, because I can type faster and print more far legibly... the only thing that I use cursive for is my signature. And I don't miss it one bit.
Students today need cursive to succeed in society about as much as I need Morse code to listen to NPR during drive time... They are both skills that will be kept up by small numbers of enthusiasts, and society at large will have only a passing knowledge of the subject, and will be no worse off for it...
They actually both had the same ticket... she had gotten a duplicate boarding pass.
They do this all the time, it is called overbooking.
The airlines want every seat full on every flight (if possible), so they play the averages and assume a small percentage of no shows. When more people with tickets show up than they have seats, they start offering deals (free round trip in the future...) to people traveling alone if they will take a later flight.
Absolutly nothing out of the ordinary...
Uhmm...
I think you are right on penn, but I could get to Al Jazeera during the war...
You are really overstating things... Most americans don't eat more than 3000.
I eat 4500-6000 depending on how heavily I am training, and I am a marathoner. Most people exhibit looks of shock when I get our my lunch bag at work, it takes me about an hour and a half of slow steady eating for both lunch and dinner. This is far from the american norm...
Nope I am consistent: We taught him to fight off infidels in Muslim lands through calls to holy war (lying down with dogs). Then in an unrelated incident we went to war in a Muslim land (our military presence in Saudi Arabia for GWI was the main beef). Suddenly we are the infidels in a Muslim land (getting fleas).
Can you see the independence of the 2 events? By the way, I never said that everything was America's fault, you said I think that...
By your logic, the US government is responsible for all the Tim McVeighs and John Malvos of the world because the Army teached them how to shoot and kill.
Nope, it would be like if we had found they were wonderful leaders and made them generals with armies to command.
You say this:You never know how history would have turned out.
/. reader could help me out on a couple things. Did the cold war seem very similar to the terror war? You know what I mean, mostly hype designed to generate patriotic followers?
but you said this too:And if that would have happened, we wouldn't be on Slashdot. We'd be working on some ditzy farm, Comrade.
Well, which is it? I think it is the former (not knowing about history...). My opinion is that the cold war might have gone on longer, but I think that the final outcome would be very similar.
On another note:
I was not around for much of the cold war, so maybe an older
I'd assume that the dragonfly merely tries to keep the thing it's hiding from in the same position on *its* retina.
A nice idea, but it wouldn't work...
The stalking party can move it's eyes around in it's socket or turn it's head. Either of those would case a change the position on the observing retina, but not on the dragonfly's...
Nobody in his right mind thinks OBL hates us because we helped him expel the soviets, but what we did do is teach him how to recruit holy warriors to fight the infidels.
While the reasons for his hatred of us are unrelated to our support for him, his strength in the region is not. We knew that he was a vicious character, but we supported him anyway, just because of a common enemy. And it bit us in the ass.
Please attack my logic, or my data, if you can, but if you can't... Consider the posibility that maybe this is not leftist tripe.