The biggest problem is this though...you cannot take rights away from Americans.
2 years ago, I would have agreed with you completely. However, in this day and age, I'm not so sure anymore. We have let many of our freedoms fall in the name of anti-terrorism. Also gun control laws are coming up more frequently.
I hope to (insert name of supreme being here) that we never lose our rights. Especially the right to bear arms. Now before you call me a gun-toting redneck, note that without the ability to protect ourselves from aggressors, the other rights don't mean jack shit. If we can't protect ourselves, our rights become just scribbles on paper.
neurostar
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What if someone hacked into the MD5 database and changed the entries?
This is definately a legitimate concern. I would be wary about this.
There is one possibility however. Even if the entries are changed maliciously, the MD5 sums might possibly be different from the rootkit that is installed. IIRC rootkits are compiled on the host machine, and this might change the MD5 sums for the rootkit. Also, there are different sources of rootkits, so that would also affect the MD5 sums and the feasibility of changing the entries.
Sorry if it doesn't fit your aenda, but not all of us live in your world.
There is no reason to get pissy about it. I was merely pointing out that it getting very repetative with the same stories basically saying the same thing. I posted another comment containing an idea for a good place to put these types of stories.
Also, it is apparently not just "my world" because my comment was modded up by people who feel the same way. So I am not the only one sick of seeing the same types of stories all the time.
More expensive to buy, but as I'm sure Microsoft or other commercial software vendors would argue, is it more expensive over its life cycle?
True. I was trying to stay away from this argument. The argument over actual cost is a big issues. But I was more trying to discourage the posting of more and more articles stating the same one-sided view of adoption of open source software. The articles don't really deal with the argument you brought up, and so I don't think they should be posted. (Or they should have their own section so as not to clutter up slashdot; more info: money.slashdot.org proposal)
But let's remember that just a few years ago there weren't *ANY* articles like this. You need some way to measure how well you're doing, and this is one.
True. It is just my opinion that they are starting to get old and repetitive.
Apologies to those who don't like this idea, but it seems like there have been a lot of "we saved x dollars by switch to linux" or "we lost x dollars by using commercial software."
/. is a bastion of open-source advocacy. People don't come here to read "I saved money" when everyone here already knows that commercial software is more expensive. It is basically preaching to the choir. The people who don't know that free/open-source/GNU software is cheaper aren't reading/.
So it seems kinda pointless to keep stating the obvious over and over again.
...they seem to have a "random service droppage" policy...or a major bug in the system.
Yeah, something is up with them. When I got my latest cell phone, I had a somewhat in depth discussion with the sales rep about the various carriers. He said that although Sprint has some excellent protocols and ideas for new network services, they are relatively new to cell phone service. As a result, they don't have as much experience with networks as Verizon or VoiceStream do. So that could be the source of your problems.
The sales rep also said that Sprint has problems with reception inside buildings (more so than other providers). I ended up going with Verizon as a result.
Please note, I am not advocating either side. I am merely pointing out some additional facts and correcting some statements made.
How long was palestine there before we decided to just make part of the country israel?
Well, actually, at the time of the creation of Israel, that entire area was under British control. There was not a separate palestinian state.
...they have been fighting for half a century.
The Israelis and the Palestinians have been fighting for almost 2000 years. The might have been using different labels (Hebrew, Jew, Arab, various tribal names), but they have been fighting amongst themselves (and over Jerusalem) for almost 2000 years. It is naive to state that the creation of the Israli state is the cause of the fighting.
Israel and Palestine do the same shit to each other. But we label attacks by Palestine terrorism. BS. Both countries engage in it, we just support one of them.
I agree. Neither side is in the right here. Both sides do despicable things. One could argue that Israel has used the holocaust and other anti-Jewish actions to gain sympathy in order that they not get punished as severely for their actions. I don't know if that last statement is accurate, but it is a possibility.
If I were him, I'd be pissed at the USA also.
I don't think that is the case. He broke the law by violating the sanctions (I am judging the sanctions btw), and so he must face the consequences. The FBI investigation seems to be excessive and unjustified, but I don't know much other than what was in the article.
I think his hate for the US mostly stems from his inflated view of himself. In his phone call to the radio station after 9/11 he states that he gave the US our recognition for intellectualism. Judging from what he said during the phone call, he feels like he has been screwed by the US because he wasn't glorified and made rich as a result of his World Champion status. There is more evidence for this in the comments made about what he would do if he won a world championship (last quote in the comment). I don't think he got what he wanted, and as a result, he feels bitter again the US because he thinks we owe him something.
It's called you Social Security Number. If you want to do anything in america... you HAVE to have one of them.
Yes, this is true. But the information isn't contained in a centralized resource. Even with an SSN, all that info isn't contained in a central database. It is my understanding that with a national ID system, information would be more easily accessable to authority figures. And I don't trust those in authority with easy access to that information. In the past, they have shown little respect for rules and privacy, so I can't trust them.
that the reasoning that is brought to bear somehow should be bound by scripture.
Yeah, I can see how that would be implied. I think the poster was a little too ambiguous.
...but the problem I see is scripture not the specific variety.
I agree with you whole heartedly. Using scripture isn't very effective unless you are talking to people who believe in the same interpretation of the scripture.
neurostar
PS - I apologize if my earlier reply seemed harsh. I was in a rather bad mood at the time. Sorry about that.
if you aren't doing anything extremely wrong you've got nothing to hide.
Such as finances, credit, family problems, etc? I have not committed crimes, and I don't ever want to have an ID system that can provide a ton of information about me. I do have something to hide - my personal life, because my life is my business, not Uncle Sam's.
If I can carry a piece of plastic with me that will help stop thousands of terrorism related deaths a year I'm all for that.
I have yet to hear an argument of how national IDs would stop terrorists. Another poster pointed out that the 9/11 hijackers did nothing that could have been prevented with the existence of a national ID. I fail to see how such and ID could help anything.
Even though there are no visible problems with the nation ID system in Russia, that doesn't mean there aren't problems. The things that people should be worried about (abuse of power, theft, fraud) are, for the most part, crimes that will be kept secret.
Abuse of power will be kept secret for the obvious reason that the government will not want people to know about it. The other types of crimes relating to the IDs (theft, fraud, identity theft) will also be kept more secretive because the government will not want to provide evidence that the system is enabling more crimes.
I think we should sit back and take a long while and think about ID cards. As another poster pointed out, the terrorists of 9/11 didn't do anything that could have been prevented by having national ID cards.
That's the problem with a representative gov't, it relies on the representatives to do the right thing by the people, and in most cases they don't because it's not the right thing by themselves.
I agree with you on this. I am quite disappointed with career politicians. I follow the libertarian party because I feel their positions are the most beneficial. That is just my opinion I guess. I don't feel as good about the policies of Republicans or Democrats.
Depends. Do you care about your neighbors? If so, "forced" wouldn't be the word you used there. You'd be glad to help.
Absolutely right. If people were in need, I would help. However, I think that people should be free to give their money in the way they choose. This means they shouldn't be forced into giving money to programs such as welfare. If I worked for the money, I should be free to give it away as I see fit.
American society was quite different before then...
Unfortunately, I do not know much about the american economy before the Depression, so I can't comment much on this. But the US still had its ups and downs before the Depression. There was a recession around the time of the civil war, and there were also some economic troubles in the late 1800's iirc, that related to the monopolys and the strikes that were occuring. So I still think these programs have, for the most part, outlived their usefulness.
The abolition of abortion rights is the big thing I'm thinking of. Such an effort attempts to legislate the fundamentalist/Catholic christian perspective.
I can understand this point of view. I guess the answer to this depends on your opinion of when life begins. I for one feel that it begins at conception (well, a little after conception, but I dont' want to get bogged down into the details of it). So I am opposed to abortion.
In any case, we should remove the ambiguity of the laws regarding babies. I am pretty that if a pregnant woman is murdered and the child/fetus doesn't survive, the criminal can be charged with two counts of murder. We should make up our minds about which way it is, and stick with it. (Of course, I would prefer that we regulate abortion, but that is my opinion)
That's not true. "Under [capital G] God" refers directly to the Christian god...
You do have a valid point here. Don't get angry with me if this seems offensive, but why make such a fuss over two words? In the context of the anti-communism wave, it may point towards the Christian God, but contexts change. Also, you don't see followers of Islam, Sanatan Dharma (Hinduism), or other non-Christian religions complaining it.
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Can anyone tell me where to find this song and what album it is on?
Yes, I would be happy to help.
You can find it on the internet. The album is titled KaZaA.
Big companies still don't care about your rights!
Nevermind that!
A /. editor actually researched a story!
Well, you definitely converted me! :D
neurostar"That night I dreamed of Mr. Christmas and a baseball bat, some duct tape, and roofing nails."
neurostarNo, no, no. That would be life in the dark. (Like more readers are)
The biggest problem is this though...you cannot take rights away from Americans.
2 years ago, I would have agreed with you completely. However, in this day and age, I'm not so sure anymore. We have let many of our freedoms fall in the name of anti-terrorism. Also gun control laws are coming up more frequently.
I hope to (insert name of supreme being here) that we never lose our rights. Especially the right to bear arms. Now before you call me a gun-toting redneck, note that without the ability to protect ourselves from aggressors, the other rights don't mean jack shit. If we can't protect ourselves, our rights become just scribbles on paper.
neurostarWhat if someone hacked into the MD5 database and changed the entries?
This is definately a legitimate concern. I would be wary about this.
There is one possibility however. Even if the entries are changed maliciously, the MD5 sums might possibly be different from the rootkit that is installed. IIRC rootkits are compiled on the host machine, and this might change the MD5 sums for the rootkit. Also, there are different sources of rootkits, so that would also affect the MD5 sums and the feasibility of changing the entries.
neurostarNo wonder we spent $40 billion on ISS!
They needed to research and develop their policies.
Whoops.... wrong ISS
apologies, the intent wasn't to be pissy, but rather poignant.
No offense taken. I am somewhat tired today. I apologize for lashing out.
neurostarSorry if it doesn't fit your aenda, but not all of us live in your world.
There is no reason to get pissy about it. I was merely pointing out that it getting very repetative with the same stories basically saying the same thing. I posted another comment containing an idea for a good place to put these types of stories.
Also, it is apparently not just "my world" because my comment was modded up by people who feel the same way. So I am not the only one sick of seeing the same types of stories all the time.
neurostarMore expensive to buy, but as I'm sure Microsoft or other commercial software vendors would argue, is it more expensive over its life cycle?
True. I was trying to stay away from this argument. The argument over actual cost is a big issues. But I was more trying to discourage the posting of more and more articles stating the same one-sided view of adoption of open source software. The articles don't really deal with the argument you brought up, and so I don't think they should be posted. (Or they should have their own section so as not to clutter up slashdot; more info: money.slashdot.org proposal)
neurostarHeck, we should have a repository of success stories for that very purpose.
A section should be added to /. - money.slashdot.org or something like that. The purpose of which would be to collect stories of people saving money.
neurostarBut let's remember that just a few years ago there weren't *ANY* articles like this. You need some way to measure how well you're doing, and this is one.
True. It is just my opinion that they are starting to get old and repetitive.
neurostarApologies to those who don't like this idea, but it seems like there have been a lot of "we saved x dollars by switch to linux" or "we lost x dollars by using commercial software."
So it seems kinda pointless to keep stating the obvious over and over again.
Just my $.02
neurostarHehe. I don't think they actually give out 8 year contracts. I was just trying to think of a good number that seemed outrageous.
neurostarHarumph!
I really do... need... it.
Umm... so I can find out where to go drinking!
Yeah, that's it!
*comes home and tears open the packaging on a brand new cellphone that came with a 8 year service contract, then reads /.*
damn...
Yeah, something is up with them. When I got my latest cell phone, I had a somewhat in depth discussion with the sales rep about the various carriers. He said that although Sprint has some excellent protocols and ideas for new network services, they are relatively new to cell phone service. As a result, they don't have as much experience with networks as Verizon or VoiceStream do. So that could be the source of your problems.
The sales rep also said that Sprint has problems with reception inside buildings (more so than other providers). I ended up going with Verizon as a result.
neurostarPlease note, I am not advocating either side. I am merely pointing out some additional facts and correcting some statements made.
How long was palestine there before we decided to just make part of the country israel?
Well, actually, at the time of the creation of Israel, that entire area was under British control. There was not a separate palestinian state.
The Israelis and the Palestinians have been fighting for almost 2000 years. The might have been using different labels (Hebrew, Jew, Arab, various tribal names), but they have been fighting amongst themselves (and over Jerusalem) for almost 2000 years. It is naive to state that the creation of the Israli state is the cause of the fighting.
Israel and Palestine do the same shit to each other. But we label attacks by Palestine terrorism. BS. Both countries engage in it, we just support one of them.
I agree. Neither side is in the right here. Both sides do despicable things. One could argue that Israel has used the holocaust and other anti-Jewish actions to gain sympathy in order that they not get punished as severely for their actions. I don't know if that last statement is accurate, but it is a possibility.
If I were him, I'd be pissed at the USA also.
I don't think that is the case. He broke the law by violating the sanctions (I am judging the sanctions btw), and so he must face the consequences. The FBI investigation seems to be excessive and unjustified, but I don't know much other than what was in the article.
I think his hate for the US mostly stems from his inflated view of himself. In his phone call to the radio station after 9/11 he states that he gave the US our recognition for intellectualism. Judging from what he said during the phone call, he feels like he has been screwed by the US because he wasn't glorified and made rich as a result of his World Champion status. There is more evidence for this in the comments made about what he would do if he won a world championship (last quote in the comment). I don't think he got what he wanted, and as a result, he feels bitter again the US because he thinks we owe him something.
neurostarIt's called you Social Security Number. If you want to do anything in america ... you HAVE to have one of them.
Yes, this is true. But the information isn't contained in a centralized resource. Even with an SSN, all that info isn't contained in a central database. It is my understanding that with a national ID system, information would be more easily accessable to authority figures. And I don't trust those in authority with easy access to that information. In the past, they have shown little respect for rules and privacy, so I can't trust them.
neurostarthat the reasoning that is brought to bear somehow should be bound by scripture.
Yeah, I can see how that would be implied. I think the poster was a little too ambiguous.
I agree with you whole heartedly. Using scripture isn't very effective unless you are talking to people who believe in the same interpretation of the scripture.
neurostar
PS - I apologize if my earlier reply seemed harsh. I was in a rather bad mood at the time. Sorry about that.
Quoting bible scripture as an argument went out the around the Enlightenment...
If you would care to read the post, you would see that he was not arguing, but pointing out and inconsistency and contradiction.
neurostarif you aren't doing anything extremely wrong you've got nothing to hide.
Such as finances, credit, family problems, etc? I have not committed crimes, and I don't ever want to have an ID system that can provide a ton of information about me. I do have something to hide - my personal life, because my life is my business, not Uncle Sam's.
If I can carry a piece of plastic with me that will help stop thousands of terrorism related deaths a year I'm all for that.
I have yet to hear an argument of how national IDs would stop terrorists. Another poster pointed out that the 9/11 hijackers did nothing that could have been prevented with the existence of a national ID. I fail to see how such and ID could help anything.
neurostarEven though there are no visible problems with the nation ID system in Russia, that doesn't mean there aren't problems. The things that people should be worried about (abuse of power, theft, fraud) are, for the most part, crimes that will be kept secret.
Abuse of power will be kept secret for the obvious reason that the government will not want people to know about it. The other types of crimes relating to the IDs (theft, fraud, identity theft) will also be kept more secretive because the government will not want to provide evidence that the system is enabling more crimes.
I think we should sit back and take a long while and think about ID cards. As another poster pointed out, the terrorists of 9/11 didn't do anything that could have been prevented by having national ID cards.
neurostarThat's the problem with a representative gov't, it relies on the representatives to do the right thing by the people, and in most cases they don't because it's not the right thing by themselves.
I agree with you on this. I am quite disappointed with career politicians. I follow the libertarian party because I feel their positions are the most beneficial. That is just my opinion I guess. I don't feel as good about the policies of Republicans or Democrats.
Depends. Do you care about your neighbors? If so, "forced" wouldn't be the word you used there. You'd be glad to help.
Absolutely right. If people were in need, I would help. However, I think that people should be free to give their money in the way they choose. This means they shouldn't be forced into giving money to programs such as welfare. If I worked for the money, I should be free to give it away as I see fit.
American society was quite different before then...
Unfortunately, I do not know much about the american economy before the Depression, so I can't comment much on this. But the US still had its ups and downs before the Depression. There was a recession around the time of the civil war, and there were also some economic troubles in the late 1800's iirc, that related to the monopolys and the strikes that were occuring. So I still think these programs have, for the most part, outlived their usefulness.
The abolition of abortion rights is the big thing I'm thinking of. Such an effort attempts to legislate the fundamentalist/Catholic christian perspective.
I can understand this point of view. I guess the answer to this depends on your opinion of when life begins. I for one feel that it begins at conception (well, a little after conception, but I dont' want to get bogged down into the details of it). So I am opposed to abortion.
In any case, we should remove the ambiguity of the laws regarding babies. I am pretty that if a pregnant woman is murdered and the child/fetus doesn't survive, the criminal can be charged with two counts of murder. We should make up our minds about which way it is, and stick with it. (Of course, I would prefer that we regulate abortion, but that is my opinion)
That's not true. "Under [capital G] God" refers directly to the Christian god...
You do have a valid point here. Don't get angry with me if this seems offensive, but why make such a fuss over two words? In the context of the anti-communism wave, it may point towards the Christian God, but contexts change. Also, you don't see followers of Islam, Sanatan Dharma (Hinduism), or other non-Christian religions complaining it.
neurostar