Actually, recently trying to install told me this was not so. After putting freebsd on, i then expected to simply be able to put an xp cd in, and have windows installed (and yes, i also expected windows to overwrite my mbr so it could boot itself). Not so. NTLDR missing. I tried a fixmbr and fixboot C: from the recovery console. Still nothing. I formatted my fresh install of freebsd away: i was getting desperate. Fortunately I had booted a knoppix cd, so i booted that up to try and find out what was going on. And here was the answer at M$ support. I needed to get a win98 boot floppy and sys c:. *sigh*
All software companies must carry significant legal overhead to protect against GPL "infection" - 0224r
Not if they're happy to embrace the GPL and release under it. I'd say there's just as much legal overhead consumed by making sure that all use of M$ software complies with its EULA (not to mention the horror of shared source !).
How many people do I know that use thin-clients? Two. Why do they use them? Because they have poor hardware. Are they happy using thin-clients for day-to-day work? No.
Also, if even half of the people here who keep bitching about X would spend even half of their time doing something about even half of the problems they keep talking about
is this the right attitude to get joe average consumer to adopt linux on their desktop: "yeah we know it sux, stop complaining, go fix it yourself."?
the fact is, joe average isn't like your average linux user today: he may not have the technical skill to contribute, and he probably doestnt want to have to hack away at fixing it himself.
That's not the case on Windows, it's not the case on Macintosh
by Standardized Interface Design, i'd guess the comment was more refering to a consistent interface to the end user. It really doesn't matter what the underlying functions (toolkits etc) are, as long as everything appears standardized to the user.
I don't particularly like X11, I do find it awfully slow compared to *sigh* xp (yes I turn on a lot of eye candy effects)... Maybe this is just because X isnt making good use of openGL the same way windows uses directX. But I can *feel* the difference, in as much a quantitative as qualitative manner.
.NET resolves many of the features that are inherently lacking in java imho. Take a look at a comparative analysis of c# to java and c++.
some features I particularly liked: delegates (and resulting event support), properties and indexers, and collection management.
Perhaps you should look at the c# and.NET specs before you flame people for not providing a comprehensive list to supplement everything they say, instead of hiding in your anti-ms hole.
Actually I do a lot of modelling from a CLI - you'll notice in the high end suites (max, maya) there's a command line for direct parameter entry (and also some cool scripting).
Yeah, obviously their web team cbf'd using an else, in addition to IE and Netscape. I use opera, so it was just a quick matter of reidentifying as MSIE6 and reloading. Actual pages render fine, just a poor detection script.
Whatever you do, don't introduce them to redhat or mandrake. Stay away from such evils.
When I first installed mandrake when I was 14, it was just a crappy OS with a chunky, ugly GUI (kde 2.x) and there was really no incentive to use it instead of windows.
Since then, I've gone through debian (which was great) and gentoo (which was better), and am getting in to freeBSD (which might not be appropriate).
The incentive for (intuitive, smart) kids to use Free Software (speech/beer etc.) is that they should be made to feel that _they_ have configured their OS. This doesn't mean they need to use LFS, its just that monkey-installers like redhat and mandrake just aren't any fun.
My recommendation, use Debian (with nicely themed KDE or something) to demonstrate, make sure it looks easy, aesthetic, but also powerful.
Also, I think you're going to have to target those kids who are technically reasonably savvy (they can set their VCR etc), the real nerds as you say will already be using slashdot, and if you make those experienced kids to demonstrate their knowledge (say by helping the other kids) your demo will go smoother.
Well, imho... If you treat the term linux as what it usually refers to, ie a gnu/linux based software distribution, then yes it is "trying" to go somewhere. The people who are putting it somewhere are the developers, and the people above the developers who are in charge of project direction. There's also the advocates who go around advertising a monkey distribution like redhat or mandrake as a 'windows replacement on the desktop'. The people that do this PR (whether they are associated with desktop development or not) are evidently trying to put linux on the desktop.
MacOS X anyone - haven't they already implemented a (much better) alternative to X on a BSD(ish) kernel? I believe the underlying architecture is called quartz.
I don't personally use MacOS X but just looking at the blurb [apple.com] it has some quite intuitive features: PDF-style vector rendering, GPU and video memory usage.
Not even windows is as brainless as the rh installer. You can at least choose _some_ options, and if you need to use an answer file.
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Actually the mono team is incredibly careful to adhere to all legal responsibilites. Their code and documentation contributing pages both detail how all interaction with the M$ implementations is to be avoided.
The mono team is developing strictly independently of what Microsoft owns, projects such as the SSCLI/rotor and the MSDN documentations are only to be used very loosely as guides. Most contributions are based on the ecma standards.
My point is, mono should have no fear of Microsoft intellectual property / proprietariness.
If he was smart, he'd have used all the excess heat released to power the tesla coils... And what about all those spare photons coming from that monitor.
Any real inventor would make sure it had an infinite supply of power.
i wonder if the increase in their 'operational costs' can counter the increase in the community's time and money costs at having to wade through such crap and filter it out.
Mmmm well as the article says, 'cyberspace' is just a whole lot of people on the telephone simultaneously... Should our phone calls be censored? Should we be repressed while talking over the phone?
So yes treat it as it is, a communication medium; do not treat it just as another place that has its own by-laws run by a 'technocracy' (lol)
It entertains me that ppl see 'dysfunctional family' and see 'potential criminal children'.
im 14 and my family is just fine and although ive never really done anything malicious, ive played around with a few hacking tools and perused the source of a few virii. Then there are kids that come from dysfunctional families (well maybe not as screwed up as the article describe's mafiaboy's family) who come out great - even nicer than everyone else.
Conservative views like yours seem to be the exact subject of the satirical "Is your son a computer hacker"
http://www.adequacy.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/ 12/2/42056/2147
They've been 'cooperating' with AMD for a while now... intel is not anywhere near losing its market share but their chips aren't quite as popular as they were back in 2000
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.. the various breeds of TeX, and also DocBook.
Actually, recently trying to install told me this was not so. After putting freebsd on, i then expected to simply be able to put an xp cd in, and have windows installed (and yes, i also expected windows to overwrite my mbr so it could boot itself).
Not so. NTLDR missing. I tried a fixmbr and fixboot C: from the recovery console. Still nothing. I formatted my fresh install of freebsd away: i was getting desperate. Fortunately I had booted a knoppix cd, so i booted that up to try and find out what was going on. And here was the answer at M$ support. I needed to get a win98 boot floppy and sys c:.
*sigh*
Im sure that will all change with palladium.
Not if they're happy to embrace the GPL and release under it. I'd say there's just as much legal overhead consumed by making sure that all use of M$ software complies with its EULA (not to mention the horror of shared source !).
Also, if even half of the people here who keep bitching about X would spend even half of their time doing something about even half of the problems they keep talking about
is this the right attitude to get joe average consumer to adopt linux on their desktop: "yeah we know it sux, stop complaining, go fix it yourself."?
the fact is, joe average isn't like your average linux user today: he may not have the technical skill to contribute, and he probably doestnt want to have to hack away at fixing it himself.
by Standardized Interface Design, i'd guess the comment was more refering to a consistent interface to the end user. It really doesn't matter what the underlying functions (toolkits etc) are, as long as everything appears standardized to the user.
I don't particularly like X11, I do find it awfully slow compared to *sigh* xp (yes I turn on a lot of eye candy effects)... Maybe this is just because X isnt making good use of openGL the same way windows uses directX. But I can *feel* the difference, in as much a quantitative as qualitative manner.
.NET resolves many of the features that are inherently lacking in java imho.
.NET specs before you flame people for not providing a comprehensive list to supplement everything they say, instead of hiding in your anti-ms hole.
Take a look at a comparative analysis of c# to java and c++.
some features I particularly liked: delegates (and resulting event support), properties and indexers, and collection management.
Perhaps you should look at the c# and
When you figure out how to... make a 3D model
Actually I do a lot of modelling from a CLI - you'll notice in the high end suites (max, maya) there's a command line for direct parameter entry (and also some cool scripting).
Yeah, obviously their web team cbf'd using an else, in addition to IE and Netscape. I use opera, so it was just a quick matter of reidentifying as MSIE6 and reloading. Actual pages render fine, just a poor detection script.
Since then, I've gone through debian (which was great) and gentoo (which was better), and am getting in to freeBSD (which might not be appropriate).
The incentive for (intuitive, smart) kids to use Free Software (speech/beer etc.) is that they should be made to feel that _they_ have configured their OS. This doesn't mean they need to use LFS, its just that monkey-installers like redhat and mandrake just aren't any fun.
My recommendation, use Debian (with nicely themed KDE or something) to demonstrate, make sure it looks easy, aesthetic, but also powerful. Also, I think you're going to have to target those kids who are technically reasonably savvy (they can set their VCR etc), the real nerds as you say will already be using slashdot, and if you make those experienced kids to demonstrate their knowledge (say by helping the other kids) your demo will go smoother.
Well, imho...
If you treat the term linux as what it usually refers to, ie a gnu/linux based software distribution, then yes it is "trying" to go somewhere. The people who are putting it somewhere are the developers, and the people above the developers who are in charge of project direction.
There's also the advocates who go around advertising a monkey distribution like redhat or mandrake as a 'windows replacement on the desktop'. The people that do this PR (whether they are associated with desktop development or not) are evidently trying to put linux on the desktop.
eek... link was meant to be blurb
MacOS X anyone - haven't they already implemented a (much better) alternative to X on a BSD(ish) kernel? I believe the underlying architecture is called quartz.
I don't personally use MacOS X but just looking at the blurb [apple.com] it has some quite intuitive features: PDF-style vector rendering, GPU and video memory usage.
I have a good condition sx-64... I'd happily sell it for anything over $100AU. Without going on ebay, any ideas on how i could possibly do this?
Yeah I've gone from 30+ down to 7 per day.
The mono team is developing strictly independently of what Microsoft owns, projects such as the SSCLI/rotor and the MSDN documentations are only to be used very loosely as guides. Most contributions are based on the ecma standards.
My point is, mono should have no fear of Microsoft intellectual property / proprietariness.
Any real inventor would make sure it had an infinite supply of power.
It really is just scared developers concerned that anything redmond can cough up is too mainstream and below them...
Take a look at the ecma standards, download mono, and crawl out of your shell.
i wonder if the increase in their 'operational costs' can counter the increase in the community's time and money costs at having to wade through such crap and filter it out.
Mmmm well as the article says, 'cyberspace' is just a whole lot of people on the telephone simultaneously...
Should our phone calls be censored? Should we be repressed while talking over the phone?
So yes treat it as it is, a communication medium; do not treat it just as another place that has its own by-laws run by a 'technocracy' (lol)
Um although it _is_ named after a penguin species
Plenty of people protest about names that mean more than one thing and can be offensive.
However, the the legitimate meaning (ie that of the breed of penguin) would be dominant so there is really no problem here.
im 14 and my family is just fine and although ive never really done anything malicious, ive played around with a few hacking tools and perused the source of a few virii. Then there are kids that come from dysfunctional families (well maybe not as screwed up as the article describe's mafiaboy's family) who come out great - even nicer than everyone else.
Conservative views like yours seem to be the exact subject of the satirical "Is your son a computer hacker" http://www.adequacy.org/?op=displaystory;sid=2001/ 12/2/42056/2147
They've been 'cooperating' with AMD for a while now...
intel is not anywhere near losing its market share but their chips aren't quite as popular as they were back in 2000