Considering the slap, it looked to me like it was time for Captain Obvious to put in an appearance. RH could buy lot of ad space for a million dollars. Thanks Captain.:)
Really, if anybody wants to help in this hole issue just click the link and donate something.
Well, first I RTFA, and then I poked around the web site because I have been looking for a way to donate to RH's OSS defense fund. Please provide the link that I'm obviously overlooking. In the meantime, I've donated a few bucks to the SCO bounty hunt. It looks like it will have the same effect.
I remember when win3.0 came out with a bunch of hype about multitasking. But it wasn't preemptible. It didn't have protected memory. It was still lowly DOS. Foolish me for thinking that they were talking about a real OS, like any of a dozen other OSes of the day.
Ah, that brings back old memories (not fond ones). Extended or expanded memory -- pick one, not both, at boot. People nowadays think dual-boot systems originated with Linux. In those days, MS PCs had to be dual-boot just to run Windows.:)
It is remotely possible that the execs brought their charges against IBM and orchestrated the media frenzy around it to raise the stock price in order to increase their profits from a sale.
SCO execs sue Big Blue on claims they won't substantiate. They hire a big name, big mouthed lawyer that draws reporters like dung draws flies. They constantly issue press releases that would be called trolls here. They announce that they want to extort $1400 from every Linux user, which has every IT trade rag publishing weekly stories. And it is "remotely possible"? When does it become obvious? They can claim they're doing it for the stockholders, but the end is still the same - pump the stock.
Anti SCO T-Shirt $1 donated to OSI Fund on each shirt.
While I would certainly like to add one of those shirts to my collection, I'm not getting a warm fuzzy feeling about giving out my credit card number. The "about us" links don't seem very deep. Care to lend some extra assurance? Happy customers? Any out there?
IMO, "an anonymous Fortune 500 company" is exactly as convincing an argument as "lots of unidentified source code".
While I agree with the sentiment, don't forget SCO's previous secret licensee was Sun. It could be just another company ashamed to admit their involvement.
say this company did their own internal investigation into SCO's claims... had a team of techies and lawyers sign the NDA, and sit down to examine SCO's findings. say this team came back to the high ups and was convinced that SCO would win this legal battle . ..
Since IBM obviously doesn't believe there is any merit in the claims, and they know more about the facts in question than anybody except SCO, I'd say it was a company with money to waste. So why not waste it on SCO licenses as well as teams of investigative nerds and sharks?
maybe for those who are "in the know" buying up the licenses now is not such a bad move.
The companies "in the know" aren't interested in buying SCO licenses or in buying SCO. Companies that give in to SCO's extortion are just helping to spread the FUD that SCO is preaching, and hopefully such bad decisions will be remembered at the stockholder meetings.
I wonder if the licensee wasn't that guy sending in the Monopoly money. And as for the other "300 companies" that Sontag spoke of, I, er . . . witnessed -- that's it,witnessed -- a slashdotting of their response form a few days ago, and some of the people involved were claiming to represent companies. They'll get a lot of takers from those inquiries!:)
Sorry, never mind. I've been up too long, which is something I'm going to cure right now. Planting land mines is not funny nor conducive to continued employment, but YMMV.
Is there a reason that./ is giving front page coverage to SCO's press release spinning an IBM counterclaim, rather than reporting on the counterclaim itself?
Because slashdot did that yesterday, and today is today, and I NEED my SCO news fix every day! What monkey on my back? I don't see any monkey.
Are they hoping to win their lawsuit? When dealing with any enemy, the first thing one must assume is that he is not stupid, not matter how stupid he seems. They are not morons.
We can assume lots of things, but that doesn't make them true. How do you know these people aren't morons? Because one is CEO and another is a vice-president? I have (peripherally) known one CEO and several vice-presidents who were card-carrying morons. Shove 'em into an Armani suit, and they all look the same.
5 execs aren't doing this because they want their stock to simply go from 0.25 to 11.00 . ..
No, they're doing it so their options, exercised at $0.006 per share can be sold at $11.00 per share. Attributing their actions to some anti-OSS conspiracy is giving them way too much credit. Never underestimate the greed and lack of ethics of American management. Every time we do, we get proven wrong.
You know the saddest part of this whole thing? The jury more than likely didn't even look at the merits of the patent. They saw "small company" vs "large company" and decided to play robin hood - all too often these days in the US court system and the reason law suits are so numerous.
The thing that annoys me the most is juries that say they want to "send a message" by their decision (ala the McDonalds case). Jurors should do nothing except fairly follow the law to the best of their understanding. I guess that 15 minutes of fame is just too hard to resist.
SCO spokespuppets advised users to please check their comupters for \usr\bin and to pleeeeeease buy some SCO stock this week as their lawsuit is a "sure-thing".
$ ls \usr\bin ls: usrbin: No such file or directory
So, I'm safe, but I sure hope the spokespuppets get their comupters, or comeuppance, whatever.
http://www.sco.com/company/feedback/index.html visit their webpage and tell them were they can stick their license fees.
Mod parent up, and this is an easier link. That was cool. They just got a request for Linux licensing requirements from Usama in Afghanistan, and they thanked me for it. Slashdotting their chosen extortion response system seems like a Good Thing.:)
Of course, maybe you just have a different notion of what constitutes a "simple instrument".
Hmmm. Given some of the experimental bomb guidance systems of previous generations, how about a tethered homing pigeon? Light weight, and if the sucker really wants to get home, he can get out and push.:) PETA members need not reply.
Ah, I now see that I misunderstood your comment. Your use of tenure and breakthrough threw me, it seemed like a challenge -- my fault. I agree with your point and apologize. I also have friends in the educational field, or at least I did.:)
I'd say the SCO execs have already won. They have successfully managed to steal millions of dollars from the people who bought SCO stock on news of the IBM lawsuit, which is all they wanted. Now sit back and watch as they sever their ties with SCO one by one and retire to the French Riviera to enjoy their spoils.
It wasn't just the SCO executives; the parent holding company laundered millions of dollars when SCO bought its sister, Vultus (Vulture, whatever it was called) with newly issued stock. As long as they can keep turning deals like that, expect the SCO management to stay in place. Surely, there is some quid pro quo involved.
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Thankyou, Captain Obvious.
Considering the slap, it looked to me like it was time for Captain Obvious to put in an appearance. RH could buy lot of ad space for a million dollars. Thanks Captain. :)
What does Open Source have to do with the National Organization of Women?
That's the National Organization for Women, you insensitive Karma . . . er, peddler.
Really, if anybody wants to help in this hole issue just click the link and donate something.
Well, first I RTFA, and then I poked around the web site because I have been looking for a way to donate to RH's OSS defense fund. Please provide the link that I'm obviously overlooking. In the meantime, I've donated a few bucks to the SCO bounty hunt. It looks like it will have the same effect.
I remember when win3.0 came out with a bunch of hype about multitasking. But it wasn't preemptible. It didn't have protected memory. It was still lowly DOS. Foolish me for thinking that they were talking about a real OS, like any of a dozen other OSes of the day.
Ah, that brings back old memories (not fond ones). Extended or expanded memory -- pick one, not both, at boot. People nowadays think dual-boot systems originated with Linux. In those days, MS PCs had to be dual-boot just to run Windows. :)
Don't forget that MS always promises that the current version of Windows is finally secure. Some people actually believe them.
It is remotely possible that the execs brought their charges against IBM and orchestrated the media frenzy around it to raise the stock price in order to increase their profits from a sale.
SCO execs sue Big Blue on claims they won't substantiate. They hire a big name, big mouthed lawyer that draws reporters like dung draws flies. They constantly issue press releases that would be called trolls here. They announce that they want to extort $1400 from every Linux user, which has every IT trade rag publishing weekly stories. And it is "remotely possible"? When does it become obvious? They can claim they're doing it for the stockholders, but the end is still the same - pump the stock.
Anti SCO T-Shirt $1 donated to OSI Fund on each shirt.
While I would certainly like to add one of those shirts to my collection, I'm not getting a warm fuzzy feeling about giving out my credit card number. The "about us" links don't seem very deep. Care to lend some extra assurance? Happy customers? Any out there?
IMO, "an anonymous Fortune 500 company" is exactly as convincing an argument as "lots of unidentified source code".
While I agree with the sentiment, don't forget SCO's previous secret licensee was Sun. It could be just another company ashamed to admit their involvement.
Im taking everything below "For more information on the SCO Intellectual Property License for Linux, contact SCO..." as sales pitch
So that would be a (go ahead, try to pronounce it) SCOIPL, as in a surgical implement for removing your money? :)
say this company did their own internal investigation into SCO's claims... had a team of techies and lawyers sign the NDA, and sit down to examine SCO's findings. say this team came back to the high ups and was convinced that SCO would win this legal battle . . .
Since IBM obviously doesn't believe there is any merit in the claims, and they know more about the facts in question than anybody except SCO, I'd say it was a company with money to waste. So why not waste it on SCO licenses as well as teams of investigative nerds and sharks?
maybe for those who are "in the know" buying up the licenses now is not such a bad move.
The companies "in the know" aren't interested in buying SCO licenses or in buying SCO. Companies that give in to SCO's extortion are just helping to spread the FUD that SCO is preaching, and hopefully such bad decisions will be remembered at the stockholder meetings.
Is anyone else skeptical? Or is it just me?
I wonder if the licensee wasn't that guy sending in the Monopoly money. And as for the other "300 companies" that Sontag spoke of, I, er . . . witnessed -- that's it,witnessed -- a slashdotting of their response form a few days ago, and some of the people involved were claiming to represent companies. They'll get a lot of takers from those inquiries! :)
Sorry, never mind. I've been up too long, which is something I'm going to cure right now. Planting land mines is not funny nor conducive to continued employment, but YMMV.
Know someone with . in their path?
echo "#!/bin/rm -f" > cat; chmod a+x cat
Okay, I give up. What does that do if their bin directory is not writeable by world (and you don't find many 777 directories by default)?
Legal action against security whistleblowers ought to be illegal, but at least here /.ers will die by the hundreds to defend you.
Yes, we'll be behind you. Way, way behind you. Forget this talk about dying. We'll let the subscribers do that.
I figured I would get in real trouble. Guess what I got? One week of detention! Do you know how my social and sex life benefited from the incident?
Lesson learned: Crime pays, especially when the punishment is sitting around reading Moby Dick after school.
So, now we see how CEOs come to be. :)
Is there a reason that ./ is giving front page coverage to SCO's press release spinning an IBM counterclaim, rather than reporting on the counterclaim itself?
Because slashdot did that yesterday, and today is today, and I NEED my SCO news fix every day! What monkey on my back? I don't see any monkey.
Are they hoping to win their lawsuit? When dealing with any enemy, the first thing one must assume is that he is not stupid, not matter how stupid he seems. They are not morons.
We can assume lots of things, but that doesn't make them true. How do you know these people aren't morons? Because one is CEO and another is a vice-president? I have (peripherally) known one CEO and several vice-presidents who were card-carrying morons. Shove 'em into an Armani suit, and they all look the same.
5 execs aren't doing this because they want their stock to simply go from 0.25 to 11.00 . . .
No, they're doing it so their options, exercised at $0.006 per share can be sold at $11.00 per share. Attributing their actions to some anti-OSS conspiracy is giving them way too much credit. Never underestimate the greed and lack of ethics of American management. Every time we do, we get proven wrong.
You know the saddest part of this whole thing? The jury more than likely didn't even look at the merits of the patent. They saw "small company" vs "large company" and decided to play robin hood - all too often these days in the US court system and the reason law suits are so numerous.
The thing that annoys me the most is juries that say they want to "send a message" by their decision (ala the McDonalds case). Jurors should do nothing except fairly follow the law to the best of their understanding. I guess that 15 minutes of fame is just too hard to resist.
SCO spokespuppets advised users to please check their comupters for \usr\bin and to pleeeeeease buy some SCO stock this week as their lawsuit is a "sure-thing".
So, I'm safe, but I sure hope the spokespuppets get their comupters, or comeuppance, whatever.
http://www.sco.com/company/feedback/index.html visit their webpage and tell them were they can stick their license fees.
Mod parent up, and this is an easier link. That was cool. They just got a request for Linux licensing requirements from Usama in Afghanistan, and they thanked me for it. Slashdotting their chosen extortion response system seems like a Good Thing. :)
Of course, maybe you just have a different notion of what constitutes a "simple instrument".
Hmmm. Given some of the experimental bomb guidance systems of previous generations, how about a tethered homing pigeon? Light weight, and if the sucker really wants to get home, he can get out and push. :) PETA members need not reply.
I hope they tie up SCO in court for a nice long time and win their case.
Actually, I hope it doesn't take a "nice long time". The longer this thing drags on, the worse it is for Linux.
Ah, I now see that I misunderstood your comment. Your use of tenure and breakthrough threw me, it seemed like a challenge -- my fault. I agree with your point and apologize. I also have friends in the educational field, or at least I did. :)
I'd say the SCO execs have already won. They have successfully managed to steal millions of dollars from the people who bought SCO stock on news of the IBM lawsuit, which is all they wanted. Now sit back and watch as they sever their ties with SCO one by one and retire to the French Riviera to enjoy their spoils.
It wasn't just the SCO executives; the parent holding company laundered millions of dollars when SCO bought its sister, Vultus (Vulture, whatever it was called) with newly issued stock. As long as they can keep turning deals like that, expect the SCO management to stay in place. Surely, there is some quid pro quo involved.