Been using it six month roughly too. I've only ever seen one peer close to me in the logs but, saying that, I don't use BT for new stuff, that's what Usenet's for.
Phorm scares me too. Write to your ISP. I put in a full complaint. I will put in another when this issue arises in the media again.
----- ----- -----
Hi xxxxxxxxx
REFERENCE : xxxxxxxxxx
Thank you for your e-mail dated 5 April 2008, regarding our possible future association with Phorm. I am sending you this email to confirm Virgin Media's position.
I understand your concerns and would like to thank you for your feedback. However I must stress that although Virgin Media have signed a provisional agreement with Phorm, we still have a lot of work to do in evaluating various aspects of any possible deployment. As a result, it may be some months before we are in a position to confirm how and when the solution will be implemented.
We will of course be communicating our intentions openly and transparently and will be letting all our customers know before rolling out the Webwise solution and we'll clearly explain how the system works.
Ultimately customers will not be forced to use the system and will be able to keep their Internet experience just as it is now should they wish.
If you have further queries regarding this matter or any other issue, please use the link provided below:
www.virginmedia.com/contact
Please note if you reply directly to this e-mail your response will not be received.
I've still haven't seen one in the UK. Do they exist? Has anyone actually bought one? Does anyone buy personal phones on contracts in the UK?
Buying a pay-as-you-blow phone is far more attractive for most people I know. My provider, Tescos, knocked £80 off the price of my last phone and unlocked it after I'd bought £30 worth of credit. How can any retailer compete with that?
Try it on an old PC (450mhz in my case) with many applications running. I can often hear the sound from the Flash player advert or video before it is 'blocked'.
Drivers aside, I installed Theme Hospital (1997) for my daughter the other day. It was funny looking at 256 colours on my brand spanking new laptop. Yes, W95 games install and play on Vista.
Linux is great. Vista has a few faults. Blah blah blah.
As someone else said in this thread, we do and it's called the Small Claims Court.
But, we also have a stage before that where, I believe, a 3rd party looks at all the documents and draws a conclusion. They would then write to Virgin, or back to yourself, basically saying "If this goes to the small claims court, you'd probably lose". This keeps stupid arguments out of the courts and saves people money. All this can be done online.
We don't need all that. We just need to be trusted a little.
I have an issue on this PC where PDF hyperlinks in office documents cause Acrobat to open then close imediately. I Googled the issue. MS KB says to upgrade Acrobat from v7.0 to v7.01... Three days I've been waiting for someone with admin privileges to come and click a button. That was after I was told to shell out for a v8.0 licence!
Don't hide the C:\ drive from me. I know how the address bar works!
Don't lock down cmd.exe when batch files still work! No, spending a day renaming 1000 files is not practical.
Don't even get me started on letting me query databases with SQL commands... It's childs play! I have over 20 years of computer experience ffs! Computers are not 'magical'!...do your job. Come click an upgrade button for me.
Virgin Media provide Usenet binary access [throttled to 3mbit, 20 largest groups removed, retention of 7 days]. Plenty of child porn on their servers. Go for it.
Try $0.28 per GB flat. That's what I've been paying Astraweb for more years than I care to remember. They're still in business. Guess they make a profit. And they'll go cheaper if you buy more.
That's why we'll never get charged per GB. People will soon realise the actual price of bandwidth. Grandma would love to pay $0.01 per month because she only downloads a few emails each day.
I work in one of those corporate offices you mention and I chuckled when you said pencil and paper. The company intranet homepage displays generation...
I have Excel plugins for listing data from, I guess, 30,000 sensors on each of the dozen plants we operate. Data goes back years. I'm not special; anyone with a day's training can access the data.
I have graphical programs for displaying this data. All live. All customisable.
I cannot operate the plant from here, nor do I know of anyone else that can from their desk. That's the operator's job on the plant.
The people at work don't understand why I get up out of my chair and walk downstairs to chat with someone who is only four numbers away on the phone. Face-to-face is so much better; 90% of communication is done through body language. I also think the phone is a tool for lying - very few people try in on face-to-face.
I phoned Natwest when they started using a redirect on thier site. - Please tell me if this is supposed to happen. - No, said the lady with an Indian accent. - Pass me onto someone in the security team, I said - It's normal, said the security guy.
Who was I supposed to believe?
On the plus side, Natwest now provide a device, that looks like a calculator, where you have to insert your card, key-in your PIN, and key-in an authorisation number that the website provides, then return the new authorisation number the device provides before it will let you carry out online transactions. The device only works with my card. The card and device are not kept together in my house. I think this is a good thing.
Nothing has angered me more in recent years than this Phorm spyware that I seem to have no choice in using. I think an easily corruptible text file (cookie) downloaded from www.webwise.com as means of opting-out is far from ideal.
I too have complained to Virgin Media about their lack of communication regarding Phorm. I await their reply after the weekend. I have a deep suspicion they'll eventually let me know through my old NTL email address that I haven't used in years...
The DPA is an excellent tool to use. I recently used it to get my account deleted on William Hill. I gave them 30 days to delete the account, warning them that if I received emails, or was able to log into my account, I would prosecute them for non-compliance. After this threat, it took less than two days for account deletion. I will use the threat of the DPA for many, many things in the future.
I think a new FireFox addon that poisons Phorm's database will be in order. I'll happily leave it running 24/7. I do not believe they will honour an opt-out cookie.
I too am with Virgin Media. Any idea how we can defend against phorm?
I had my connection throttled down to 25% last night - the first time I've noticed it happen. You're not the only one getting pissed off with them. I expect more from the most expensive UK ISP.
Slashdot Mirror
I'll do it!
You'll need to tell me what you mean by 'code' and 'extension' first though.
pffft
Same as that...
Been using it six month roughly too. I've only ever seen one peer close to me in the logs but, saying that, I don't use BT for new stuff, that's what Usenet's for.
I dont want to sound like I'm calling you, um,... nope, wont do it. :)
My last two, and my current Samsung, could do line feeds. They are/were hidden under the symbol menus.
Good luck!
They can use their club... I mean baton. The baton they use for clubbing people.
Don't chuck meat on a compost heap. You'll attract rats.
Fair play to you for wanting to give something back after you die. I feel somewhat the same.
:)
C02 is my aim. Give the trees their breath. It's a greenhouse gas for me.
Yours truely,
Evil bastard, who is is hellbent on taking my revenge on the living. I hate you all...
Do. Not. Feed. The. Trolls.
C'mon, you're aren't new here. You must have seen this one copy 'n pasted on every MP3 story?
"Or is this about some obscure difference between online storage and online storage?"
Yes.
One makes EMI some money.
One does not.
Inda says EMI is illegal.
Phorm scares me too. Write to your ISP. I put in a full complaint. I will put in another when this issue arises in the media again.
----- ----- -----
Hi xxxxxxxxx
REFERENCE : xxxxxxxxxx
Thank you for your e-mail dated 5 April 2008, regarding our possible
future association with Phorm. I am sending you this email to confirm
Virgin Media's position.
I understand your concerns and would like to thank you for your
feedback. However I must stress that although Virgin Media have signed a
provisional agreement with Phorm, we still have a lot of work to do in
evaluating various aspects of any possible deployment. As a result, it
may be some months before we are in a position to confirm how and when
the solution will be implemented.
We will of course be communicating our intentions openly and
transparently and will be letting all our customers know before rolling
out the Webwise solution and we'll clearly explain how the system works.
Ultimately customers will not be forced to use the system and will be
able to keep their Internet experience just as it is now should they
wish.
If you have further queries regarding this matter or any other issue,
please use the link provided below:
www.virginmedia.com/contact
Please note if you reply directly to this e-mail your response will not
be received.
Kind regards
Pete Moore
E-Contact Team
Virgin Media
I've still haven't seen one in the UK. Do they exist? Has anyone actually bought one? Does anyone buy personal phones on contracts in the UK?
Buying a pay-as-you-blow phone is far more attractive for most people I know. My provider, Tescos, knocked £80 off the price of my last phone and unlocked it after I'd bought £30 worth of credit. How can any retailer compete with that?
LiquidCoooled is right.
Try it on an old PC (450mhz in my case) with many applications running. I can often hear the sound from the Flash player advert or video before it is 'blocked'.
I thought LIAR was pretty close to the mark.
Drivers aside, I installed Theme Hospital (1997) for my daughter the other day. It was funny looking at 256 colours on my brand spanking new laptop. Yes, W95 games install and play on Vista.
Linux is great. Vista has a few faults. Blah blah blah.
As someone else said in this thread, we do and it's called the Small Claims Court.
But, we also have a stage before that where, I believe, a 3rd party looks at all the documents and draws a conclusion. They would then write to Virgin, or back to yourself, basically saying "If this goes to the small claims court, you'd probably lose". This keeps stupid arguments out of the courts and saves people money. All this can be done online.
Hey SuperAdmin!
...do your job. Come click an upgrade button for me.
We don't need all that. We just need to be trusted a little.
I have an issue on this PC where PDF hyperlinks in office documents cause Acrobat to open then close imediately. I Googled the issue. MS KB says to upgrade Acrobat from v7.0 to v7.01... Three days I've been waiting for someone with admin privileges to come and click a button. That was after I was told to shell out for a v8.0 licence!
Don't hide the C:\ drive from me. I know how the address bar works!
Don't lock down cmd.exe when batch files still work! No, spending a day renaming 1000 files is not practical.
Don't even get me started on letting me query databases with SQL commands... It's childs play! I have over 20 years of computer experience ffs! Computers are not 'magical'!
Virgin Media provide Usenet binary access [throttled to 3mbit, 20 largest groups removed, retention of 7 days]. Plenty of child porn on their servers. Go for it.
I think your pricing is a little off.
Try $0.28 per GB flat. That's what I've been paying Astraweb for more years than I care to remember. They're still in business. Guess they make a profit. And they'll go cheaper if you buy more.
That's why we'll never get charged per GB. People will soon realise the actual price of bandwidth. Grandma would love to pay $0.01 per month because she only downloads a few emails each day.
Water. Funny. In the UK many people, like me, are charged a flat fee for water.
I like my internet like my water. Use as much as I like. Same charge every month.
I work in one of those corporate offices you mention and I chuckled when you said pencil and paper. The company intranet homepage displays generation...
I have Excel plugins for listing data from, I guess, 30,000 sensors on each of the dozen plants we operate. Data goes back years. I'm not special; anyone with a day's training can access the data.
I have graphical programs for displaying this data. All live. All customisable.
I cannot operate the plant from here, nor do I know of anyone else that can from their desk. That's the operator's job on the plant.
You're not alone.
The people at work don't understand why I get up out of my chair and walk downstairs to chat with someone who is only four numbers away on the phone. Face-to-face is so much better; 90% of communication is done through body language. I also think the phone is a tool for lying - very few people try in on face-to-face.
Natwest doesn't work with FF3 b3 to b5...
I phoned Natwest when they started using a redirect on thier site. - Please tell me if this is supposed to happen. - No, said the lady with an Indian accent. - Pass me onto someone in the security team, I said - It's normal, said the security guy.
Who was I supposed to believe?
On the plus side, Natwest now provide a device, that looks like a calculator, where you have to insert your card, key-in your PIN, and key-in an authorisation number that the website provides, then return the new authorisation number the device provides before it will let you carry out online transactions. The device only works with my card. The card and device are not kept together in my house. I think this is a good thing.
You don't download cracks? I do. I have done so for over 10 years. Have a guess at how many viruses I've picked up this way?
Yeah, I hate guessing games too...
Zero is the answer. The warez scene is not a problem.
Guess how many nasty-o-programs I've caught from emails, magazine cover disks, legit programs from branded sites,..?
More than I care to mention.
Was it ever worth it? Maybe the homepages of 1997 were worth it...
Nothing has angered me more in recent years than this Phorm spyware that I seem to have no choice in using. I think an easily corruptible text file (cookie) downloaded from www.webwise.com as means of opting-out is far from ideal.
I too have complained to Virgin Media about their lack of communication regarding Phorm. I await their reply after the weekend. I have a deep suspicion they'll eventually let me know through my old NTL email address that I haven't used in years...
The DPA is an excellent tool to use. I recently used it to get my account deleted on William Hill. I gave them 30 days to delete the account, warning them that if I received emails, or was able to log into my account, I would prosecute them for non-compliance. After this threat, it took less than two days for account deletion. I will use the threat of the DPA for many, many things in the future.
I think a new FireFox addon that poisons Phorm's database will be in order. I'll happily leave it running 24/7. I do not believe they will honour an opt-out cookie.
I too am with Virgin Media. Any idea how we can defend against phorm?
I had my connection throttled down to 25% last night - the first time I've noticed it happen. You're not the only one getting pissed off with them. I expect more from the most expensive UK ISP.
It's a play on words.
I hate explaining jokes - it ruins them.