If they are going to do this, I simply won't buy from them. It is probably cheaper to buy a wintv card than it is to pay for a ReplayTV. The thing's only value is in exploring it. Without that, it is just another useless toy.
I can understand a corporation wanting to keep their source code to themselves.
I can understand a corporation wanting to keep their protocol documentation a secret from the public.
I can even understand that a corporation may not want people replacing their firmware.
But that is no &@$%ing excuse for reverse engineering to be illegal. If I buy a program, and it is delivered to me in binary format, I paid for it. They didn't give me the source code, but the binary is mine. Telling me that I can't read that binary myself, and that only my computer may read it is complete bullc*#$!!!!
The execs haven't slapped the DMCA on these guys yet, and I am glad for that. I think that we should start buying archos to fool around with. But if they do slap the DMCA around, I think that would be a call for a good ol' fashion boycott (or boston archos party:-). We need to stand up for our rights, and if they are denied, we need to fight back with the only weapon available to us, our own money.
I have a 100mhz 486 tablet computer. I thought that I could keep it in my backpack and have loads of linux fun at school. I was wrong.
I am a coder; give me a c-compiler, a decent text editor, and I'm happy. Hell, give me a 4mhz calculator with a meg and a half of ram and an RPL interpreter and I'll be happy. But I need a keyboard. It is painfully slow to program on a calculator keyboard, and a virtual keyboard is so muc worse. I would be willing to trade my tablet for an equivalent lappie anyday.
Does urpmi simply not support kernel upgrades, or is Mandrake sticking to the stable kernel versions?
As a concerned linux user, and an avid Mandrake fan, I would like the option to try a new linux kernel without installing it manually. Guess I don't have a choice.
I used to think that we linux users were invulnerable. Microsoft can't buy out linux, and if Linus(heaven forbid) actually did sell out, we could port everything to *BSD with little or no effort. We are so distributed that they can't afford the time it would take to bribe all of the developers.
I thought that we were invulnerable, but the standards are the only exception. They can force proprietary media formats down the throats of web developers and corporations. We would eventually make a client for it, but they could change the format. We need some method of protection from threats such as this. We need some guys on the inside of M$ helping write linux clients for the standards. We need a program like wineX, but GPLed. We have worked togethor remarkably well in surviving against the M$ threat, but that isn't enough. We need to work harder against such competition to our way of programming.
We need to turn MSIE/Windos/M$ into an entire monopoly, gone with the wind.
Please forgive me ignorance on this matter if I am incorrect, but back when I used windos(a year or so ago) there were was NO standard for header files. One compiler had conio.h while another had dos.h and it was a complete bitch to compile any downloaded code. Visual basic is the only standardised compiler in windos, whereas the same linux program can compile in gcc, egcs, and other compilers using the same libraries and header files.
So as I see it, users would need to buy an existing version of windows, then pay for the microsoft visual c++ compiler because borland couldn't compile it. Then they download the operating system while MSIE crashes during the download. When they finally get it they will need to uncab it, and deal with several BSOD.
After hunting down hundreds of libraries and wasting ram on a whole IDE just to compile one project, they will get it build. But then what? M$ will keep it under a proprietary license, and probably won't release the source online in the first place. You won't be able to sell or distribute it, and you won't be able to steal back and of their BSD code.
The fact is that even if windos was free, I wouldn't move. The wine project would become perfected in a few mere days, and even if it was dropped, I like linux more. UNIX is a completely superior type of os than windos.
We are the only true competition that M$ has. We can't be bought out. We can't be squashed, their business model doesn't work in attacking us.
As bill gates said on the Simpsons, "Buy 'em out boys!"
Then all of you could tell me that it lacks "passion" and debate what type of license the book should be released under, whethere copyright law is legal, etc.
Personally I think that it is a much better name than mandrake, but the fact is that I use mandrake.
The reason is not that debian's installer crashes on my laptop and mandrake's runs perfectly. It is not that debian still uses the 2.2 kernel. It is not the ease of hardware detection and software installation in mandrake.
It is the culmination of all these things. If debian would simply shape up and work on their installer, upgrade their kernel, and their hardware detection method I would switch. A completely GPL distrobution is extremely appealing, but ease of use it what it boils down to.
I use linux on all of my systems because it is the easiest form of unix, the easiest operating system on earth. VMS has funky commands, and we all know the problems with windos. Linux is the most logical system, and roadblocks like licensing fees may kill it.
Don't get me wrong, I understand that distro companies need to turn a profit, but most distros offer a more complete edition with proprietary software thrown in. I buy that software to support the company.
Proprietary licensing can and will kill gnu software.
Please/. my website for me. We really do need more traffic.
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The Debian/Linux team is probably in tears over the monstrously innapropriate spelling. How dare you. How dare you!?
M$ formats are so %#@ing proprietary and obscure.
If they are going to do this, I simply won't buy from them. It is probably cheaper to buy a wintv card than it is to pay for a ReplayTV. The thing's only value is in exploring it. Without that, it is just another useless toy.
I can understand a corporation wanting to keep their source code to themselves.
:-). We need to stand up for our rights, and if they are denied, we need to fight back with the only weapon available to us, our own money.
I can understand a corporation wanting to keep their protocol documentation a secret from the public.
I can even understand that a corporation may not want people replacing their firmware.
But that is no &@$%ing excuse for reverse engineering to be illegal. If I buy a program, and it is delivered to me in binary format, I paid for it. They didn't give me the source code, but the binary is mine. Telling me that I can't read that binary myself, and that only my computer may read it is complete bullc*#$!!!!
The execs haven't slapped the DMCA on these guys yet, and I am glad for that. I think that we should start buying archos to fool around with. But if they do slap the DMCA around, I think that would be a call for a good ol' fashion boycott (or boston archos party
I have a 100mhz 486 tablet computer. I thought that I could keep it in my backpack and have loads of linux fun at school. I was wrong.
I am a coder; give me a c-compiler, a decent text editor, and I'm happy. Hell, give me a 4mhz calculator with a meg and a half of ram and an RPL interpreter and I'll be happy. But I need a keyboard. It is painfully slow to program on a calculator keyboard, and a virtual keyboard is so muc worse. I would be willing to trade my tablet for an equivalent lappie anyday.
Alright,I'll stick with Mandrake, the commercial linux that I like.
Does urpmi simply not support kernel upgrades, or is Mandrake sticking to the stable kernel versions?
As a concerned linux user, and an avid Mandrake fan, I would like the option to try a new linux kernel without installing it manually. Guess I don't have a choice.
I am a nerd, the linux kernel matters. 'Nuff said.
I used to think that we linux users were invulnerable. Microsoft can't buy out linux, and if Linus(heaven forbid) actually did sell out, we could port everything to *BSD with little or no effort. We are so distributed that they can't afford the time it would take to bribe all of the developers.
I thought that we were invulnerable, but the standards are the only exception. They can force proprietary media formats down the throats of web developers and corporations. We would eventually make a client for it, but they could change the format. We need some method of protection from threats such as this. We need some guys on the inside of M$ helping write linux clients for the standards. We need a program like wineX, but GPLed. We have worked togethor remarkably well in surviving against the M$ threat, but that isn't enough. We need to work harder against such competition to our way of programming.
We need to turn MSIE/Windos/M$ into an entire monopoly, gone with the wind.
We don't want gnome for windows because we would be less superior. We don't want IIS to actually run, because we would be less superior.
And I don't want nethack on cellphones because it would make my agenda vr3 less superior.
Please forgive me ignorance on this matter if I am incorrect, but back when I used windos(a year or so ago) there were was NO standard for header files. One compiler had conio.h while another had dos.h and it was a complete bitch to compile any downloaded code. Visual basic is the only standardised compiler in windos, whereas the same linux program can compile in gcc, egcs, and other compilers using the same libraries and header files.
So as I see it, users would need to buy an existing version of windows, then pay for the microsoft visual c++ compiler because borland couldn't compile it. Then they download the operating system while MSIE crashes during the download. When they finally get it they will need to uncab it, and deal with several BSOD.
After hunting down hundreds of libraries and wasting ram on a whole IDE just to compile one project, they will get it build. But then what? M$ will keep it under a proprietary license, and probably won't release the source online in the first place. You won't be able to sell or distribute it, and you won't be able to steal back and of their BSD code.
The fact is that even if windos was free, I wouldn't move. The wine project would become perfected in a few mere days, and even if it was dropped, I like linux more. UNIX is a completely superior type of os than windos.
We are the only true competition that M$ has. We can't be bought out. We can't be squashed, their business model doesn't work in attacking us. As bill gates said on the Simpsons, "Buy 'em out boys!"
Then all of you could tell me that it lacks "passion" and debate what type of license the book should be released under, whethere copyright law is legal, etc.
It doesn't matter when it is released, there will already be a NetBSD port. Flame Entertainment
Personally I think that it is a much better name than mandrake, but the fact is that I use mandrake.
/. my website for me. We really do need more traffic.
The reason is not that debian's installer crashes on my laptop and mandrake's runs perfectly. It is not that debian still uses the 2.2 kernel. It is not the ease of hardware detection and software installation in mandrake.
It is the culmination of all these things. If debian would simply shape up and work on their installer, upgrade their kernel, and their hardware detection method I would switch. A completely GPL distrobution is extremely appealing, but ease of use it what it boils down to.
I use linux on all of my systems because it is the easiest form of unix, the easiest operating system on earth. VMS has funky commands, and we all know the problems with windos. Linux is the most logical system, and roadblocks like licensing fees may kill it.
Don't get me wrong, I understand that distro companies need to turn a profit, but most distros offer a more complete edition with proprietary software thrown in. I buy that software to support the company.
Proprietary licensing can and will kill gnu software.
Please
better yet, one of those mini-lappies. So she can type the test answers at a decent pace. A pda and a nightstick may works just as well :--)
My panasonic dot matrix has never quit.
/dev/hda >> /dev/lp0
I just shove in a $2 cartride, and type:
cat
It is as simple as that.
You are too bound by your drive to help a struggling company. Give into the GNU and feel its strength.
:)
BTW, has anyone tried descent 3 for linux on a voodoo 3 card?
Doesn't everything come from the simpsons? Honestly, the only better source to quote from is the hitchhiker's guide.
In truth, the unix fortune program is the master of a quoteable sources. That is why I made a web interface to fortune.