So where's our mirror of the whole article? I'd like to read it, and I'd also like Salon's writers to move onto a new venue where I won't have to pay (i.e. Salon needs to die)
Nope. Patents and copyrights are radically different things.
We have this thing called Freedom. I am free to share my creative output (books, music, poetry, etc.) with whomever I want, and exclude whomever I want.
My work might be copyrighted because I want control over it's distribution. I might want to give away, free, 100 copies to people I expressly want to have copies of the work, with the confidence that those are the only 100 copies out in the world.
If you're going to turn this into a money thing, you're no better than the Disney people.
Their only hope is to find localities where there are shrill anti-gun zealots pulling the strings. No reasonable law enforcement officer, or his superiors is going to want this expensive less-reliable gun as a sidearm. However, people who've wormed their way into the political system who delight in hamstringing the police will.
You'll notice a few rough edges, such as the absence of a handle and the trigger appears to be carved out of maple, but this is made up for by the fact that as you're holding the barrel in your teeth to fire it, you'll know that the seven or eight different sizes and kinds of ammunition you bought at that Gun Show last month will all work with this gun.
Or install NetBSD. You can even use the current 1.6 release, as the basic NetBSD hasn't 'bloated out' as it's grown, like Linux distros, the 'packages' collection has just grown. The base install is under 100 megs and gives you X11 with the Tab Window Manager, the C compiler and libraries, all the core networking and Unix tools. Then you can selectively bring in other packages. I'd recommend, at most, adding in FVWM1 as a window manager for small machine like that.
It wasn't that long ago that the 'main' machines most of us were using were 486 machines. The richer of us had 16 megs with those expensive 4M 30 pin simms. The poorer had 8 MB in the smaller one meg simms. My Toshiba Laptop is a 486DX-2 50 MHz, though it has a 'bloated' maximum possible 28Meg of RAM in it. It runs NetBSD with FVWM and all the necessary goodies just fine.
You want to do things like tune your X by editing ~/.fvwm2rc. Create a virtual desktop that uses all your video memory (I like a 640x880, which uses up all 512K on my machine) so you can pan around your 640x480 'window' into your desktop easily. My Toshiba doesn't have a CD drive, but it's trivial to install NetBSD over NFS if you have a PCMCIA ethernet card and another box set up to serve out the distribution tgz files over NFS. The only 'installation media' you need is a pair of boot floppies from the images here, and the tarballs from here. The installation manual is here.
Everything you need to download to do a base NetBSD install totals to under 100 MB, so it's even a fairly casual download with a 56K modem.
However, your chances of getting sued because of using Linux are about the same as your chances when using any other software. So if these penny-pinching 'suits' are paying for indemnity insurance, there must be a risk associated with it.
Don't go out there and try to do business with your pants down. It's bound to get you in trouble.
Get back to us when you've taken a short courss in management at the business academy.
Remember, we are talking about real companies that make productive use of computers in their business. It's debatable wether 'damage on the internet' actually would be considered a liability. At many companies if the Internet was totally fscked up, their employees would just spend more time doing the actual work in their job description.
...I was very impressed with it. It was simple, logical and factual. However, by the end, it seemed to devolve into a statement of beliefs and feelings...
Clearly ESR shouldn't just be posting a counter-point article. He should open an look-and-feel lawsuit.
Check out CheapBytes, who have been selling cheap Linux CD's for probably almost as long as Red Hat has been in business. They're prohibited from using the Red Hat name on any of their products but they have cleverly named 'equivalent-generic' products cheaply available. Red Hat in particular has been one of the Linux Vendors who has made the most noise about CheapBytes selling their ISOs.
I get nervous about an computer-related product that I am prepaying in advance for five years. It might seem cheap, but what are the chances that particular install is still going to be useful and in service five years from now? It seems like a long-term committment that suddenly becomes expensive if anything significant happens in the next five years. And when has the computing biz stayed that stable for five years? I mean, this isn't your "IBM Cobol mainframe in the air conditioned room in a bank" kind of gear we're talking about here.
Yes, but anybody who they give the binaries to can redistribute them at will, and the source code can be demanded by anybody the binaries are redistributed to.
So, for instance, a group of people could set up a small cooperative. One person buys a copy of the Red Hat product, and makes copies for everybody else.
Red Hat can not restrict any customer from doing this 'cooperative' sort of thing, at least not with GPL'd portions of Red Hat Linux. They can, however, include material on the CD that isn't GPL. The filestructure, readme files, etc. on the CD do not need to be GPL. I know from direct experience of asking one of the Red Hat marketing people in person back in the days of Red Hat 5.0 that even back then they frowned on people making copies of the retail version of the 5.0 CD.
They're really selling 'support' for the money people are paying, though. A certain amount of handholding, which is important for non-geeks who want computers to be reliable information processing appliances.
It is unclear precisely when MCS first emerged because misdiagnosis and politically motivated denial have consistently accompanied it to the present day.
It is unclear precisely when MCS-based hypochrondia first emerged because misdiagnosis, quack medicine, and politically motivated advocacy have consistently accompanied it to the present day.
Appliance manufacturers don't just build in $30 OEM components to add 'nice to have' features. There's probably already a Hitachi H8 controller in the appliance, and existing code that can just be turned on to implement the interface. Add a 17 cent connector and away they go.
I often refer to 'collectable' toys that are never removed from the packaging as 'unhappy toys.'
They're supposed to be used, not imprisoned.
I had the idea not too long ago that somebody should figure out a way to certify that items have been removed from the packaging and used. Toys without any karma from being played with should be shunned as evil, and there needs to be a way for future collectors to know.
Beanie Babies could be certified as 'tags removed on xx/xx/xx' which someday might increase their value (not owned by a doorknob collector).
I once owned over fifty 100,000 megohm resistors. Rated to a 1% tolerance. I think that's the biggest resistor that Dale made at the time, sealed in glass and all that. Each of them was sealed in a bag with a certificate with it's actual value on it.
I bet they don't have them at Mendelson's (I got them at the AxMan)
For quite awhile I was a regular at the Fridley AxMan Surplus. I had a regular deal going during the time when they had a bunch of surplus U of M test equipment coming in regularly that they were selling at 37 cents a pound. I got an HP thermal conversion RMS digital voltmeter (the one with 100 MHz bandwidth) there once. The store manager got slick, though. He said 'NO way I am letting you buy that for 37 cents a pound! (it weighted about ten pounds). Five dollars!' That particular meter at the time cataloged used for about $3000. Them were the days.
'Home use' laptops aren't made to take the kind of beating that a 'business' laptop checked out of an IT pool by the sales staff and taken on the road. 'Business' computers are used by people who didn't pay for them. They take the same kind of beating that rental cars do.
Home use laptops are coddled by the person who paid for them.
Don't you mean to say they have the same amount of memory in them? The memory configuration in an AMD system is significantly different than that in an INTEL system. Plus, you're talking about a Celeron. You're comparing it to an AMD Duron, I hope, or you're comparing Intel's economy line to AMD's performance line.
Slashdot Mirror
Well, I don't know that I've read a recent NY Times article that wasn't mirrored here. And that broke some copyright or other.
However, the kind of people who would pay for Salon are the kind who'd hoard the article to themselves. Self-righteousness, and all that.
So where's our mirror of the whole article? I'd like to read it, and I'd also like Salon's writers to move onto a new venue where I won't have to pay (i.e. Salon needs to die)
Because articles about Salon are the Slashdot editors shilling for Salon. The Penny Stock website.
Come on, folks. Let's organize the grassroots community to pay for a $100,000 a month office suite in downtown San Francisco for our overlords.
Nope. Patents and copyrights are radically different things.
We have this thing called Freedom. I am free to share my creative output (books, music, poetry, etc.) with whomever I want, and exclude whomever I want.
No.
'Want' implies a will, it implies that information is willful.
Information isn't willful, it doesn't 'want' anything.
So it was just another clever but irrelveant bromide spread by the tards who dot.bombed awhile back.
Deal with it.
No.
Wrong.
My work might be copyrighted because I want control over it's distribution. I might want to give away, free, 100 copies to people I expressly want to have copies of the work, with the confidence that those are the only 100 copies out in the world.
If you're going to turn this into a money thing, you're no better than the Disney people.
Their only hope is to find localities where there are shrill anti-gun zealots pulling the strings. No reasonable law enforcement officer, or his superiors is going to want this expensive less-reliable gun as a sidearm. However, people who've wormed their way into the political system who delight in hamstringing the police will.
This gun runs Linux.
You'll notice a few rough edges, such as the absence of a handle and the trigger appears to be carved out of maple, but this is made up for by the fact that as you're holding the barrel in your teeth to fire it, you'll know that the seven or eight different sizes and kinds of ammunition you bought at that Gun Show last month will all work with this gun.
Or install NetBSD. You can even use the current 1.6 release, as the basic NetBSD hasn't 'bloated out' as it's grown, like Linux distros, the 'packages' collection has just grown. The base install is under 100 megs and gives you X11 with the Tab Window Manager, the C compiler and libraries, all the core networking and Unix tools. Then you can selectively bring in other packages. I'd recommend, at most, adding in FVWM1 as a window manager for small machine like that.
It wasn't that long ago that the 'main' machines most of us were using were 486 machines. The richer of us had 16 megs with those expensive 4M 30 pin simms. The poorer had 8 MB in the smaller one meg simms. My Toshiba Laptop is a 486DX-2 50 MHz, though it has a 'bloated' maximum possible 28Meg of RAM in it. It runs NetBSD with FVWM and all the necessary goodies just fine.
You want to do things like tune your X by editing ~/.fvwm2rc. Create a virtual desktop that uses all your video memory (I like a 640x880, which uses up all 512K on my machine) so you can pan around your 640x480 'window' into your desktop easily. My Toshiba doesn't have a CD drive, but it's trivial to install NetBSD over NFS if you have a PCMCIA ethernet card and another box set up to serve out the distribution tgz files over NFS. The only 'installation media' you need is a pair of boot floppies from the images here, and the tarballs from here. The installation manual is here.
Everything you need to download to do a base NetBSD install totals to under 100 MB, so it's even a fairly casual download with a 56K modem.
However, your chances of getting sued because of using Linux are about the same as your chances when using any other software. So if these penny-pinching 'suits' are paying for indemnity insurance, there must be a risk associated with it.
Don't go out there and try to do business with your pants down. It's bound to get you in trouble.
Get back to us when you've taken a short courss in management at the business academy.
Large companies typically punish for failure more strongly than the reward success.
Umm, well, most large companies reward success by issuing regular paychecks. That's a pretty substancial reward.
Remember, we are talking about real companies that make productive use of computers in their business. It's debatable wether 'damage on the internet' actually would be considered a liability. At many companies if the Internet was totally fscked up, their employees would just spend more time doing the actual work in their job description.
Perhaps Microsoft is due a bonus.
Clearly ESR shouldn't just be posting a counter-point article. He should open an look-and-feel lawsuit.
Near as I can tell, that is a Rex Ballard inspired Urban Legend from C.O.L.A.
Furthermore: If Microsoft buys SCO, they have purchased the entity that they supposedly made that agreement with.
Check out CheapBytes, who have been selling cheap Linux CD's for probably almost as long as Red Hat has been in business. They're prohibited from using the Red Hat name on any of their products but they have cleverly named 'equivalent-generic' products cheaply available. Red Hat in particular has been one of the Linux Vendors who has made the most noise about CheapBytes selling their ISOs.
I get nervous about an computer-related product that I am prepaying in advance for five years. It might seem cheap, but what are the chances that particular install is still going to be useful and in service five years from now? It seems like a long-term committment that suddenly becomes expensive if anything significant happens in the next five years. And when has the computing biz stayed that stable for five years? I mean, this isn't your "IBM Cobol mainframe in the air conditioned room in a bank" kind of gear we're talking about here.
Yes, but anybody who they give the binaries to can redistribute them at will, and the source code can be demanded by anybody the binaries are redistributed to.
So, for instance, a group of people could set up a small cooperative. One person buys a copy of the Red Hat product, and makes copies for everybody else.
Red Hat can not restrict any customer from doing this 'cooperative' sort of thing, at least not with GPL'd portions of Red Hat Linux. They can, however, include material on the CD that isn't GPL. The filestructure, readme files, etc. on the CD do not need to be GPL. I know from direct experience of asking one of the Red Hat marketing people in person back in the days of Red Hat 5.0 that even back then they frowned on people making copies of the retail version of the 5.0 CD.
They're really selling 'support' for the money people are paying, though. A certain amount of handholding, which is important for non-geeks who want computers to be reliable information processing appliances.
That's like saying penguins are toxic because some were contaminated by the Exxon Valdize oil slick.
Wrong hemisphere, unless the Exxon Valdeeze oil slick was much, much bigger than was reported in the news.
It is unclear precisely when MCS first emerged because misdiagnosis and politically motivated denial have consistently accompanied it to the present day.
It is unclear precisely when MCS-based hypochrondia first emerged because misdiagnosis, quack medicine, and politically motivated advocacy have consistently accompanied it to the present day.
Appliance manufacturers don't just build in $30 OEM components to add 'nice to have' features. There's probably already a Hitachi H8 controller in the appliance, and existing code that can just be turned on to implement the interface. Add a 17 cent connector and away they go.
I often refer to 'collectable' toys that are never removed from the packaging as 'unhappy toys.'
They're supposed to be used, not imprisoned.
I had the idea not too long ago that somebody should figure out a way to certify that items have been removed from the packaging and used. Toys without any karma from being played with should be shunned as evil, and there needs to be a way for future collectors to know.
Beanie Babies could be certified as 'tags removed on xx/xx/xx' which someday might increase their value (not owned by a doorknob collector).
I once owned over fifty 100,000 megohm resistors. Rated to a 1% tolerance. I think that's the biggest resistor that Dale made at the time, sealed in glass and all that. Each of them was sealed in a bag with a certificate with it's actual value on it.
I bet they don't have them at Mendelson's (I got them at the AxMan)
For quite awhile I was a regular at the Fridley AxMan Surplus. I had a regular deal going during the time when they had a bunch of surplus U of M test equipment coming in regularly that they were selling at 37 cents a pound. I got an HP thermal conversion RMS digital voltmeter (the one with 100 MHz bandwidth) there once. The store manager got slick, though. He said 'NO way I am letting you buy that for 37 cents a pound! (it weighted about ten pounds). Five dollars!' That particular meter at the time cataloged used for about $3000. Them were the days.
'Home use' laptops aren't made to take the kind of beating that a 'business' laptop checked out of an IT pool by the sales staff and taken on the road. 'Business' computers are used by people who didn't pay for them. They take the same kind of beating that rental cars do.
Home use laptops are coddled by the person who paid for them.
They even have identical memory configurations.
Don't you mean to say they have the same amount of memory in them? The memory configuration in an AMD system is significantly different than that in an INTEL system. Plus, you're talking about a Celeron. You're comparing it to an AMD Duron, I hope, or you're comparing Intel's economy line to AMD's performance line.