Quattro is a spreadsheet written only as a Programming Language company could design a spreadsheet. NOBODY anywhere uses it for anything significant. I've never known anybody who uses it. It was a dismal failure, and Corel got it cheap. That's about it. It's third place if anything, behind Lotus and Excel.
Lets put it this way, walmart is currently selling walmart linux boxes by the droves right?
WalMart is selling (only on their website) 'Naked' PCs that have a filler OS nobody uses in them to keep Microsoft from breathing down their neck. The 'Linux' on those machines is the software equivalent of the cardboard 'PCs' that they put on the sample desks on the sales floor of an Office Furniture store. Shit, even the Linux enthusiasts who buy that hardware aren't foolish enough to use the filler on the hard drive. They reimage it with a Linux that they can use.
I still have that 'Corel Office for Java' beta zipped up somewhere around here. I tried it again about a year ago with a much newer JVM than anything it was originally targeted for. It actually worked pretty nice on new faster hardware.
WordPerfect was dead baggage, passed from company to company several times before Corel purchased it.
I always thought Corel Draw sucked. I detested the happy-shiney-colorful balloon image they wrapped it in. I was, and still am, a Micrografx Designer partisan. Crisp powerful technical drawings software without the weight of a full-on CAD system. Corel now owns Micrografx, though, and probably will drag it down with them.
DRM will contribute to society because until it is in place the movie studios and the music biz won't release digital media freely. So DRM will make it possible to listen to music and watch movies without having to drive to a store first to purchase or rent the media.
My grandparents had a trash burning stove right in the kitchen of their old house. They also had a brick fireplace out in the back yard used for burning bigger non-kitchen garbage. Ash and non-burnable materials were hauled to the county dump.
The county dump, incidentally, was sort of a recycling center all it's own. My grandpa often came home with more 'good stuff' he'd salvaged than garbage he'd hauled there in the first place.
However, don't try to salvage anything from a modern dump. There are thugs there (municipal employees) whose job is to make sure nobody recycles anything.
Kapor was one of the 'touch-n-feel lawsuit' dudes, who tried to establish a legal precedent that the way menus were arranged on PC applications could be copyrighted and other software developers could not produce similar menus.
That dude didn't mention the mentally handicapped or the gypsies.
Nor did he mention the homosexuals.
All groups that were ruthlessly wiped out by the Nazis. The gypies were wiped out to a greater degree than the Jews. And all sorts of liberal Americans were pleased at the eugenics program (i.e. Margaret Sanger) with regard to the mentally handicapped.
If you want to play with Win16, you should try to chase down a copy of Wabi. I have a commercial copy targeted to Linux that Caldera sold back about five years. It reimplements Windows 16 (you have to install Windows 3 onto the Wabi image with your Microsoft floppies) within X. It's similar to Wine, but limited to 16 bit.
There's a checkoff box in the Windows 'networking' control panel to enable or disable file sharing completely. It would be damned hard to accidentally turn it back on if it's not turned on. If it's never been enabled, you need the distribution CD to enable it because the setup scripts need to copy files.
Linus was involved as a Minix hacker before he started his project that became Linux. There is no Minix code in Linux. The only Minix 'connection' in Linux was that Linux started out using the Minix filesystem. Which is a data structure, not code.
In the true spirit of Free Software/Open Source, all of the design and testing is done by the community.
Uh, I don't think they brought up Linux on the Itanium by throwing a tarball or two out to 'the community' to test. Any time a port is made to a new architecture, there's a certain level of 'bringing it up' that demands expensive hardware. Having worked with older-generation hardware debugging equipment, I am frightened to imagine what gear for the current architectures cost.
Let's not pretend Linux, or any Modern Operating System, is so 'grass roots' that Joe Random and twelve of his buddies can throw it together using castoff hardware and lots of sweat.
Believe me when I say that entrapment of that kind is not going to look good to companies considering contributing code to Linux.
Microsoft can say "you'd better be prepared to audit the entire code base, not just portions of it that you explicitly contribute, if you're contributing code to Linux."
What are you talking about? Haven't you read any of the history of how Cisco Systems was founded? They basically skitted their way off the Berkeley campus and formed a private company, taking with them publicly funded intellection property.
That's a little bit like saying that all a company needs to do is release one of their software products under the GPL and magically, any other party can then put that company's code into a GPL product and it's legal.
Unless SCO/Caldera put the code in question into the Linux software base themselves, that sorts of claims are groundless. If we're gonna defeat the SCO suit against IBM/Linux we need to do it with arguements that make sense.
Is the music store you purchase (possibly hypothetically, lots of that going round here these days) music at giving you a voucher for gasoline or bus fare every time you visit make a purchase?
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So you don't have an answer. It has nothing to do with online rights. It has to do with civil rights, obviously, but that wasn't my question.
Maybe YRO should be renamed 'The Indymedia Satellite Section' or something.
Quattro is a spreadsheet written only as a Programming Language company could design a spreadsheet. NOBODY anywhere uses it for anything significant. I've never known anybody who uses it. It was a dismal failure, and Corel got it cheap. That's about it. It's third place if anything, behind Lotus and Excel.
What does this have to do with Online Rights?
Can't it be posted under a relevant topic, whatever that would be here on a 'News for nerds' website?
Lets put it this way, walmart is currently selling walmart linux boxes by the droves right?
WalMart is selling (only on their website) 'Naked' PCs that have a filler OS nobody uses in them to keep Microsoft from breathing down their neck. The 'Linux' on those machines is the software equivalent of the cardboard 'PCs' that they put on the sample desks on the sales floor of an Office Furniture store. Shit, even the Linux enthusiasts who buy that hardware aren't foolish enough to use the filler on the hard drive. They reimage it with a Linux that they can use.
I still have that 'Corel Office for Java' beta zipped up somewhere around here. I tried it again about a year ago with a much newer JVM than anything it was originally targeted for. It actually worked pretty nice on new faster hardware.
So well that all my hardware purchases for the forseeable future will be from Apple.
Well, they'll have to be from Apple if you're going to stick with a closed-market Operating System.
The Corel Office 'suite' is a Frankenstein.
They bought WordPerfect from Novell, Quattro from Borland, and stuffed it with some other stuff and tried to call it a 'suite.'
It's a loose bag of parts, none of which are tightly integrated at all.
I wish it wasn't the case, there should be more than two (MS Office and StarOffice/OpenOffice) vendors in the Office Suite business.
WordPerfect was dead baggage, passed from company to company several times before Corel purchased it.
I always thought Corel Draw sucked. I detested the happy-shiney-colorful balloon image they wrapped it in. I was, and still am, a Micrografx Designer partisan. Crisp powerful technical drawings software without the weight of a full-on CAD system. Corel now owns Micrografx, though, and probably will drag it down with them.
DRM will contribute to society because until it is in place the movie studios and the music biz won't release digital media freely. So DRM will make it possible to listen to music and watch movies without having to drive to a store first to purchase or rent the media.
That's the nutshell excuse for DRM existing.
My grandparents had a trash burning stove right in the kitchen of their old house. They also had a brick fireplace out in the back yard used for burning bigger non-kitchen garbage. Ash and non-burnable materials were hauled to the county dump.
The county dump, incidentally, was sort of a recycling center all it's own. My grandpa often came home with more 'good stuff' he'd salvaged than garbage he'd hauled there in the first place.
However, don't try to salvage anything from a modern dump. There are thugs there (municipal employees) whose job is to make sure nobody recycles anything.
Kapor was one of the 'touch-n-feel lawsuit' dudes, who tried to establish a legal precedent that the way menus were arranged on PC applications could be copyrighted and other software developers could not produce similar menus.
He, in other words, was one of the hated fuckers.
OT point:
That dude didn't mention the mentally handicapped or the gypsies.
Nor did he mention the homosexuals.
All groups that were ruthlessly wiped out by the Nazis. The gypies were wiped out to a greater degree than the Jews. And all sorts of liberal Americans were pleased at the eugenics program (i.e. Margaret Sanger) with regard to the mentally handicapped.
Kinda makes one worry about his biases.
Better get started re-writing all that GPL code then, as you're not going to be allowed to merge it into your GPLL-licensed project.
Maybe you can call it LLinux?
If you want to play with Win16, you should try to chase down a copy of Wabi. I have a commercial copy targeted to Linux that Caldera sold back about five years. It reimplements Windows 16 (you have to install Windows 3 onto the Wabi image with your Microsoft floppies) within X. It's similar to Wine, but limited to 16 bit.
There's a checkoff box in the Windows 'networking' control panel to enable or disable file sharing completely. It would be damned hard to accidentally turn it back on if it's not turned on. If it's never been enabled, you need the distribution CD to enable it because the setup scripts need to copy files.
Let him jabber on. He nicely discredits himself, which is convenient.
Linus has zero rights over Minix as well.
Linus was involved as a Minix hacker before he started his project that became Linux. There is no Minix code in Linux. The only Minix 'connection' in Linux was that Linux started out using the Minix filesystem. Which is a data structure, not code.
In the true spirit of Free Software/Open Source, all of the design and testing is done by the community.
Uh, I don't think they brought up Linux on the Itanium by throwing a tarball or two out to 'the community' to test. Any time a port is made to a new architecture, there's a certain level of 'bringing it up' that demands expensive hardware. Having worked with older-generation hardware debugging equipment, I am frightened to imagine what gear for the current architectures cost.
Let's not pretend Linux, or any Modern Operating System, is so 'grass roots' that Joe Random and twelve of his buddies can throw it together using castoff hardware and lots of sweat.
Clearly they're not targeting old time hackers. Where's xyzzy?
Believe me when I say that entrapment of that kind is not going to look good to companies considering contributing code to Linux.
Microsoft can say "you'd better be prepared to audit the entire code base, not just portions of it that you explicitly contribute, if you're contributing code to Linux."
What are you talking about? Haven't you read any of the history of how Cisco Systems was founded? They basically skitted their way off the Berkeley campus and formed a private company, taking with them publicly funded intellection property.
They should be happy with how SCO is behaving.
That's a little bit like saying that all a company needs to do is release one of their software products under the GPL and magically, any other party can then put that company's code into a GPL product and it's legal.
Unless SCO/Caldera put the code in question into the Linux software base themselves, that sorts of claims are groundless. If we're gonna defeat the SCO suit against IBM/Linux we need to do it with arguements that make sense.
Is the music store you purchase (possibly hypothetically, lots of that going round here these days) music at giving you a voucher for gasoline or bus fare every time you visit make a purchase?
'If it can be measured, it must be scientific' works well, until you start examining the history of bunk like Phrenology.
Sorry.
Just a minor nit to pick. Customer satisfaction is one of the good measures of wether something 'benefits human beings.'
You'd have to be a marketing droid at a big corporation to believe that it is the best measure.
The world is a marketplace, but it's also a cooperative. Not simply one or the other.