The 'five more cleaning people' are probably making about the same total amount of money as it cost to lease the cherry wood furniture in the offices of the 'professional people in IT'.
Well, I once had an old 386 motherboard that I had gotten for free. It was populated with a huge bank of those 1M x 1 bit DRAM chips. It had a whopping 4 megs of RAM total, which was a substancial amount at the time. I got it for free because of 'problems running Windows' that it had.
Turned out that it had a single 1M x 1 chip that was defective in the second megabyte of RAM. I found it using a DOS based RAM test program. It had to run over a half an hour before the failure would occur. The reason the machine was tagged as 'having problems running windows' was because the memory failure wouldn't occur for DOS programs that only used the first 640K.
I didn't have a memory chip layout diagram for the motherboard, so finding the individual chip was a matter of trial and error using the topology of the board and the failed memory bit pattern. I had to try swapping out several chips before I found the one that caused the failure. Them were the olden days, of course.
Right. But this whole issue could end up driving Linux out of the server room at any company with a legal staff that has a clue. That wouldn't end up being good for home users in the end. Although kicking the suits out of the Linux community could bring back some of the hacker spirit that's been diluted over the last five years....
Ummm, IBM probably couldn't have produced OS/2 without at least some code from Microsoft.
Let's face it, IBM is a Business Machine company. They'll always be making metal plates to rivet onto whatever kind of business machines they're currently selling. Years ago it was wall clocks and timeclocks for factories, copy machines, etc. They've had a strong market share in computers for almost as long as computers have existed. But they're a business machine company that happens to make computers, not a computer company. So they hire out and borrow what they have to.
It's my understanding that SCO's accusation regards legacy code (in AT&T UNIX) that IBM licenses from them for AIX, code that IBM has transferred over to Linux. Does this necessarily involve a software patent at all? Further, has anybody seen said code?
There's an inherent almost fascism in the obligation many people feel to pick up a ringing phone. It's conditioned into us. Some of that conditioning broke down when Caller ID came into existence, because people could screen calls.
Information is assigned value in a marketplace by the value it's creator can get in return for it's creation.
If there's no return for creating this 'information' it will cease to be created. Except in a society where some people are the slaves of other people.
You can play all the philosophical parlour games you want with words.
Of course, proprietary software is really anti-capitalist, since the proprietary software world rests on the government-granted monopoly of "intellectual property", but that's a whole other rant...
Interesting. So, since capitalism is based on strong private property rights, I guess we can assume that your perfect world includes many armed guards and private security agencies protecting all the trade secrets.
There are many useful things I do with that laptop.
I don't run Linux, tho, I run NetBSD on it. And I wouldn't be so stupid as to run the bloat desktops on it. It uses a nicely hand tuned FVWM2 window manager.
I still remember the uncomfortable look on the woman from Red Hat's face when I asked her a question. I think it was probably a question she was tired of answering.
They were in town on a tour about four years ago and some of us went to see their presentation.
She was not happy when I asked her if it was okay for me to make copies of my Red Hat 5.0 CDs to share with my friends.
Windows NT isn't a multiuser 'Time Sharing' system
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Since Windows NT isn't a multiuser timesharing system, the power of 'root', in particular remotely, isn't that great. The remote login and remote administration tools for NT are patched on kludges.
You can install Hummingbird Inetd or Interix, or use the built in but anaemic Telnet server that comes with W2K, but since NT's focus is not to be a symmetrical multi-user timesharing system, the default system most people think of as 'NT' isn't that fun to hack into.
Now, I've supported many simultaneous users on an NT box running Interix, but that's the exception. I've wondered for awhile how well Apache would run in an Interix subsystem. But it's not interesting enough that I've tried it.
Well, shucks. Slashdot is a for-the-moment forum of opinion. It's kind of like a version of Usenet where all the newsgroups are replaced with new ones every two or three days.
Nobody puts that much work into what they post on/.
Except for maybe some of the sad sad trolls. You know, the ones with real problems...
SCO is claiming that IBM has recently merged code into Linux from their AIX codebase, which has licensed code from AT&T UUNIX, which they own.
It isn't a matter of 'lineage' going back through the decades. It's a matter of new code submissions by IBM that IBM doesn't have the right to pass along freely.
That's their claim, anyhow. We'll see how it turns out in court.
The AT&T UNIX code base has been passed from company to company in the last decade. It'll probably end up at some new company.
It would be nice if it became public domain, but as long as it has value (i.e. as long as it can be used for projects like suing IBM, the same way Ray Noorda purchased DR-DOS solely to sue Microsoft) there will be suits who want to 'own' it.
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You mean, like the Personal Toolbar Folder in Mozilla or the Links folder in Internet Explorer?
You've been only using Konqueror for quite awhile, eh?
The 'five more cleaning people' are probably making about the same total amount of money as it cost to lease the cherry wood furniture in the offices of the 'professional people in IT'.
This is not a religion, nor is it an ideological ware.
But it's not necessarily a business, either.
Your comment about 'all these Linux companies' implies that without a corporate focus Free Software and Open Source is nothing.
Now, I know there are people here who will disagree with that.
Well, I once had an old 386 motherboard that I had gotten for free. It was populated with a huge bank of those 1M x 1 bit DRAM chips. It had a whopping 4 megs of RAM total, which was a substancial amount at the time. I got it for free because of 'problems running Windows' that it had.
Turned out that it had a single 1M x 1 chip that was defective in the second megabyte of RAM. I found it using a DOS based RAM test program. It had to run over a half an hour before the failure would occur. The reason the machine was tagged as 'having problems running windows' was because the memory failure wouldn't occur for DOS programs that only used the first 640K.
I didn't have a memory chip layout diagram for the motherboard, so finding the individual chip was a matter of trial and error using the topology of the board and the failed memory bit pattern. I had to try swapping out several chips before I found the one that caused the failure. Them were the olden days, of course.
The book 'The Mythical Man-Month' was written by an IBM manager, about the problems with an IBM coding project.
There are some choice concepts available in the book 'The Mythical Man-Month' about throwing coders/money at a project until it is done.
Right. But this whole issue could end up driving Linux out of the server room at any company with a legal staff that has a clue. That wouldn't end up being good for home users in the end. Although kicking the suits out of the Linux community could bring back some of the hacker spirit that's been diluted over the last five years....
Ummm, IBM probably couldn't have produced OS/2 without at least some code from Microsoft.
Let's face it, IBM is a Business Machine company. They'll always be making metal plates to rivet onto whatever kind of business machines they're currently selling. Years ago it was wall clocks and timeclocks for factories, copy machines, etc. They've had a strong market share in computers for almost as long as computers have existed. But they're a business machine company that happens to make computers, not a computer company. So they hire out and borrow what they have to.
Wow. FUD, and counter-FUD, and counter-counter-FUD.
It's my understanding that SCO's accusation regards legacy code (in AT&T UNIX) that IBM licenses from them for AIX, code that IBM has transferred over to Linux. Does this necessarily involve a software patent at all? Further, has anybody seen said code?
Yeah, and then they call you when you're totally unprepared, right after that f*cker cut you off in traffic on the interstate.
There's an inherent almost fascism in the obligation many people feel to pick up a ringing phone. It's conditioned into us. Some of that conditioning broke down when Caller ID came into existence, because people could screen calls.
Information is assigned value in a marketplace by the value it's creator can get in return for it's creation.
If there's no return for creating this 'information' it will cease to be created. Except in a society where some people are the slaves of other people.
You can play all the philosophical parlour games you want with words.
Interesting. So, since capitalism is based on strong private property rights, I guess we can assume that your perfect world includes many armed guards and private security agencies protecting all the trade secrets.
I run X on a Toshiba laptop.
It's a 486DX-2 50MHz laptop, with 28 megs of RAM.
There are many useful things I do with that laptop.
I don't run Linux, tho, I run NetBSD on it. And I wouldn't be so stupid as to run the bloat desktops on it. It uses a nicely hand tuned FVWM2 window manager.
So it's basically the same as the way they wrecked Windows NT going from 3.51 to 4.0 in order to improve GUI performance?
You know, you're right.
All we have to do is make sure Microsoft isn't involved in it, and it's bound to be free and wonderful.
Right.
I still remember the uncomfortable look on the woman from Red Hat's face when I asked her a question. I think it was probably a question she was tired of answering.
They were in town on a tour about four years ago and some of us went to see their presentation.
She was not happy when I asked her if it was okay for me to make copies of my Red Hat 5.0 CDs to share with my friends.
Since Windows NT isn't a multiuser timesharing system, the power of 'root', in particular remotely, isn't that great. The remote login and remote administration tools for NT are patched on kludges.
You can install Hummingbird Inetd or Interix, or use the built in but anaemic Telnet server that comes with W2K, but since NT's focus is not to be a symmetrical multi-user timesharing system, the default system most people think of as 'NT' isn't that fun to hack into.
Now, I've supported many simultaneous users on an NT box running Interix, but that's the exception. I've wondered for awhile how well Apache would run in an Interix subsystem. But it's not interesting enough that I've tried it.
Well, shucks. Slashdot is a for-the-moment forum of opinion. It's kind of like a version of Usenet where all the newsgroups are replaced with new ones every two or three days.
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Nobody puts that much work into what they post on
Except for maybe some of the sad sad trolls. You know, the ones with real problems...
We liked David Boies when he represented Netscape against Microsoft.
We liked David Boies when he represented algore against the Supreme Court.
Now I guess we don't like him anymore.
Wow.
So we need to boycott KDE now.
Gee, that's going to work well.
SCO is claiming that IBM has recently merged code into Linux from their AIX codebase, which has licensed code from AT&T UUNIX, which they own.
It isn't a matter of 'lineage' going back through the decades. It's a matter of new code submissions by IBM that IBM doesn't have the right to pass along freely.
That's their claim, anyhow. We'll see how it turns out in court.
Possibly they are talking about recent improvements to Linux, like the stuff IBM has done in the last year or so.
Caldera Linux is old and dated.
The AT&T UNIX code base has been passed from company to company in the last decade. It'll probably end up at some new company.
It would be nice if it became public domain, but as long as it has value (i.e. as long as it can be used for projects like suing IBM, the same way Ray Noorda purchased DR-DOS solely to sue Microsoft) there will be suits who want to 'own' it.