Isn't there an old saying about 'the Internet routes around obstructions' or what-not that would apply here to developers routing (using MPL) around obstructions (the GPL)?
I think he means that because it's Open Source there is a tarball of poorly commented spaghetti code to murk through, rather than the published interface and profesionally written Product Spec and User Manual that came with the closed source product.
saved from buying proprietary solutions that soon require costly upgrades and such
So you're saying that Free Software means nothing ever needs to be upgraded? Or are you going to tell us that these people providing all those Billable Services aren't billing for the hours spent upgrading the Free Software products they installed?
<Offtopic> On the point about 'pumped back into the economy'- let's take away government's big pump. Give em a smaller pump so they don't have to pump it out of the economy, then back in... shaving off their 'administrative costs' of course.... </Offtopic>
I have worked for years in the Medical Device industry, another heavily regulated and heavily government overseen category. The big companies thrive, indeed they mainly get by, on the jacked up prices that come with being a government regulated industry. I worked on teams that developed medical devices with less in them than the average Sony Walkman, yet they sold for $800-$2000 dollars. Furthermore, similar devices sell in Japan for $30-80 because there isn't a big bueracracy in Japan preventing the devices from being sold Prescription Only for the Protection Of The Patient.
That kind of overspending, overspecing, and all the layers of boilerplate documentation and red tape are the Bread And Butter for the fat-assed companies that provide it.
Sorry. The $600 toilet seats may just be anectotal, but they're evidence of a big hustle scene that Stinks.
Yep. So 'IT' can mean anything from the sysadmin who writes perl scripts and whatnot to glue together a website, all the way down to a bunch of people (the majority) who are of the same basic skill set as a shipping clerk.
Shipping clerks perform 'critical infrastructure' tasks, as do janitors.
Sorry, but when contract employement agents think people with years of experience doing product development engineering are drones who have to use 'big words' like 'critical infrastructure' to pump up their job description, it's time to find a contract employement firm with a fuggin' clue.
Because nobody who codes 24/7 wears a pager. Nobody who employs someone who writes good code would allow that employee to be distracted by a pager. There's an 'administrative assistant' somewhere nearby in the cubicle farm to make the copies, run the faxes to and fro, etc.
Slashdot is giving too much credence to an article that not only mentions 'IT' but also 'career' in that horribly wrong way that only 'Human Resources' types and the people who took 'Computer Science' because they heard there was a lot of money in it use the terms.
I am sorry. I am a technical person, with an electronics background and some computing skills, including embedded controller programming in assembly language. I can't describe in words how the hair raises up on the back of my neck when some tardball 'career counselor' at a job agency implies that means I work in 'IT.'
The hell with that term. For me, and most of the people I've worked with on product development teams, 'IT' are the drones who come by once in awhile to screw up our development workstations and damage the emulators.
The term 'IT' brings to mind a vision of the kind of person who just doesn't get it but gets by.
Actually, Netscape tried to steal the name 'Mosaic' and they tried to steal the entire Mosaic development team. They were partially successful at the later, they backed down on the former.
One thing for certain is, Netscape didn't open the source until they'd hollered 'uncle' to Microsoft, and in fact they were really good at putting features into the Netscape browser that only their server product exploited.
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The real pity is we shouldn't be wasting pigskin making footballs at the moment.
There is a dying need for body bags made of pigskin, to put Islamic terrorists into.
Umm, it means that if this were Usenet, and this was one of those discussion threads that goes on for weeks and weeks, that the thread would be over.
However, this is slashdot, where no thread lasts longer than 3 days.
I think we need a 'slashthread law'- 'Anytime anybody tries to apply 'Godwins Law' to a slashdot discussion thread, they should be sent excluded from the discussion.'
A few years ago I purchased and restored an Altos 586 box. This wasn't a 'Pentium' machine. What the 5 in the model number meant was that it supported 5 users simultaneously. On an 8086 chip. With 512K of RAM.
Who produced the OS that ran on it? Microsoft. It had Microsoft Xenix on it, from before they sold off Xenix.
Yes, Microsoft produced the first Unix that ran on the x86 architecture, and it ran on the 8086, and was multi-user.
But I guess we can continue to slag them as a company that can't do a damned thing right.
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There, you've summed up why Linux will do one of two things:
It will remain a cool and highly useful geek tool.
or it will be killed by the people kludgeing it up to make it a happy-shiney newbie desktop.
Every time I hear someone saying [insert suggestion to cripple Linux down and make it less like Unix] I wince.
I think it can all be easily scripted up so that the RIAA can distribute lists to various locations all around the 'net to do their dirty deed. Then Ruth Bubba, who gets her AOL for free because she participates in the scheme, can just let that extra machine over in the corner do it's deed.
Remember, they have a centralized plan, which inherently gives them more power than a decentralized group of random peers when it comes to stuff like this.
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Maybe it will be like YaST is for SuSE, a closed source non-redistributable component.
I don't see IBM coming out with their own 'distro' though, so maybe that's not something they'd do.
Isn't there an old saying about 'the Internet routes around obstructions' or what-not that would apply here to developers routing (using MPL) around obstructions (the GPL)?
I think he means that because it's Open Source there is a tarball of poorly commented spaghetti code to murk through, rather than the published interface and profesionally written Product Spec and User Manual that came with the closed source product.
saved from buying proprietary solutions that soon require costly upgrades and such
So you're saying that Free Software means nothing ever needs to be upgraded? Or are you going to tell us that these people providing all those Billable Services aren't billing for the hours spent upgrading the Free Software products they installed?
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On the point about 'pumped back into the economy'- let's take away government's big pump. Give em a smaller pump so they don't have to pump it out of the economy, then back in... shaving off their 'administrative costs' of course....
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Sure. Home Depot isn't too far away from here.
This is a site for technically adept people. What's the deal with all the people here who think a stock Toilet Seat can't handle 12 shuttle launches??
I have worked for years in the Medical Device industry, another heavily regulated and heavily government overseen category. The big companies thrive, indeed they mainly get by, on the jacked up prices that come with being a government regulated industry. I worked on teams that developed medical devices with less in them than the average Sony Walkman, yet they sold for $800-$2000 dollars. Furthermore, similar devices sell in Japan for $30-80 because there isn't a big bueracracy in Japan preventing the devices from being sold Prescription Only for the Protection Of The Patient.
That kind of overspending, overspecing, and all the layers of boilerplate documentation and red tape are the Bread And Butter for the fat-assed companies that provide it.
Sorry. The $600 toilet seats may just be anectotal, but they're evidence of a big hustle scene that Stinks.
Yep. So 'IT' can mean anything from the sysadmin who writes perl scripts and whatnot to glue together a website, all the way down to a bunch of people (the majority) who are of the same basic skill set as a shipping clerk.
Shipping clerks perform 'critical infrastructure' tasks, as do janitors.
Sorry, but when contract employement agents think people with years of experience doing product development engineering are drones who have to use 'big words' like 'critical infrastructure' to pump up their job description, it's time to find a contract employement firm with a fuggin' clue.
You're being silly, right?
Because nobody who codes 24/7 wears a pager. Nobody who employs someone who writes good code would allow that employee to be distracted by a pager. There's an 'administrative assistant' somewhere nearby in the cubicle farm to make the copies, run the faxes to and fro, etc.
But you were just being silly, right?
Umm, no. I think his point was with regard to a double standard.
Please check your parodies and your straw man opponents at the door. Don't you realize how shallow your arguement is?
"Many times it has to do with the right implementation of said paradigm."
All I can say is: Yikes!
Slashdot is giving too much credence to an article that not only mentions 'IT' but also 'career' in that horribly wrong way that only 'Human Resources' types and the people who took 'Computer Science' because they heard there was a lot of money in it use the terms.
I am sorry. I am a technical person, with an electronics background and some computing skills, including embedded controller programming in assembly language. I can't describe in words how the hair raises up on the back of my neck when some tardball 'career counselor' at a job agency implies that means I work in 'IT.'
The hell with that term. For me, and most of the people I've worked with on product development teams, 'IT' are the drones who come by once in awhile to screw up our development workstations and damage the emulators.
The term 'IT' brings to mind a vision of the kind of person who just doesn't get it but gets by.
Well, rant off for now.
Perhaps pre-recorded movies aren't padded to three hours in length by regular commercial breaks??
Actually, Netscape tried to steal the name 'Mosaic' and they tried to steal the entire Mosaic development team. They were partially successful at the later, they backed down on the former.
One thing for certain is, Netscape didn't open the source until they'd hollered 'uncle' to Microsoft, and in fact they were really good at putting features into the Netscape browser that only their server product exploited.
The real pity is we shouldn't be wasting pigskin making footballs at the moment.
There is a dying need for body bags made of pigskin, to put Islamic terrorists into.
Expensive hardware?
My only AIX hardware cost $35 at the auction a few weeks ago. Granted it only has 128 MB, and it's PPC chip is less than 200 MHz, but hey.
I don't run AIX on it, of course. It runs NetBSD.
Well, I for one always turn off my karma bonus when I enter a comment, because I figure if what I say is important enough someone will mark it up.
Also, I have it set up not to display karma when I read comments.
I'm sorry, but it seems rather juvenile, even pathetically so, to obsess so much about what 'score' your comment gets.
Boies has sure come down in the world.
Why, back in 1998 or so, he was the golden boy who could do no wrong.
Now it's clear that he's a darling of the press, nothing more. Probably never has been anything more.
Umm, it means that if this were Usenet, and this was one of those discussion threads that goes on for weeks and weeks, that the thread would be over.
However, this is slashdot, where no thread lasts longer than 3 days.
I think we need a 'slashthread law'- 'Anytime anybody tries to apply 'Godwins Law' to a slashdot discussion thread, they should be sent excluded from the discussion.'
They don't have to offer licenses.
It's like the case of an artist who creates lithographs. He can print as many copies as he wants, and distribute them tho who he wants.
He can refuse to produce them and distribute them to anybody who he wants.
His right to his work is NOT invalidated if he doesn't happen to choose to sell a copy to you.
A few years ago I purchased and restored an Altos 586 box. This wasn't a 'Pentium' machine. What the 5 in the model number meant was that it supported 5 users simultaneously. On an 8086 chip. With 512K of RAM.
Who produced the OS that ran on it? Microsoft. It had Microsoft Xenix on it, from before they sold off Xenix.
Yes, Microsoft produced the first Unix that ran on the x86 architecture, and it ran on the 8086, and was multi-user.
But I guess we can continue to slag them as a company that can't do a damned thing right.
It will remain a cool and highly useful geek tool.
or it will be killed by the people kludgeing it up to make it a happy-shiney newbie desktop.
Every time I hear someone saying [insert suggestion to cripple Linux down and make it less like Unix] I wince.
Godwin's law is completely irrelevant to a site such as Slashdot where all discussions by defintion are over within a week.
It isn't that hard to work up a regular expression that blocks channel names with 'kiddy' in them.
Kinda like the code name 'Sagan' that Apple used, that got the hemphead astronomer into a tiff not that long ago.
I think it can all be easily scripted up so that the RIAA can distribute lists to various locations all around the 'net to do their dirty deed. Then Ruth Bubba, who gets her AOL for free because she participates in the scheme, can just let that extra machine over in the corner do it's deed.
Remember, they have a centralized plan, which inherently gives them more power than a decentralized group of random peers when it comes to stuff like this.