Wait until people get bluetooth type radio chips in their head for the purpose of telepathy, then the spammers will be sending messages straight to your brain!
The voices in my head told me to get a bigger penis!
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Still, 90% of the virus/trojan traffic is due to morons who open attachments or don't do updates. I mean, don't get me wrong I hate MS as much as the next guy, but I think us linux users might have our heads in the clouds if we think linux hasn't had many because it's so secure. It's only as secure as the dumbass behind the keyboard is what I'm getting at.
The computer has to trust the user to be useful, and if the user tells the computer to install software that's _exactly_ what it should do. Problem is when some dipshit decides to install a virus becuase it looks like an attachment from a friend.
I don't use windows myself for many reasons, some of them I consider security reasons, one of the most annoying of those security issues is IE browser hijacking, and spyware activex crap.
So sure MS is way more inviting than linux is for many reasons, but linux is far from immune from user stupidity.
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Ok, so the majority of them. And a majority of what isn't is still the stupidity of the users not doing their updates. Which will happen as much with linux, or more. People will go to linux with the illusion that it's more secure, and think they don't have to do updates.
Perhaps the software can be modeled to simulate the dropping of a turd in the toilet, so I can see what the minimum safe distance to keep my toothbrush from the toilet will be.
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Yeah, to some extent. I think the distro's and desktop makers are doing a good job making things like rpm and apt usable to non-root users through wrappers. For most people if they had to be root to install software all the time they'll just run as root all the time.
Many people will be confused by the security model of unix and run as root all the time so they don't have to su to traceroute, make install, etc...
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As we all really know viruses are spread by stupidity of users, not the OS'es, so Linux popularity on the desktop will be it's deciding factor to virus targeting.
As it becomes easier to use and more useful to dumbasses who still open attachments they aren't expecting, it will likely be targeted more by virus writers.
Do your ass cheeks move when you talk? You don't seem to have a clue about a damn thing, do you?
Mandrake is not www.redhat.com for one, and it's not even the latest distro to be added to the list. Linux/Unix doesn't have a need for antivirus because it's not inviting the viruses as other OS'es do.
I can imagine just the signal alone being a security issue. The reason subs don't use active sonar all the time is because it gives away their position. It sure will make it easy for enemy forces to find our battleships, when all they have to do is listen for 802.11b, 2.4GHz transmissions.
200mW cards only output more power they have the same input sensetivity so I doubt it's going to actually yeild much better range. Since the cards antenna is still inside the box so to speak.
God I get pissed every time I hear this shit. What about airplane cockpits, cars, guns, nuclear test facilities, operating rooms for blind doctors, etc...? What about bicycles for quadraplegics? Gymnastic equipment for leppers? Dictionaries for braindead? Toilet paper for amputees?
What a load of crap - the distro is only as resource hungry as the apps YOU chose to run on it or install. Unless you are talking about the kernel, in which case just compile a new one. It doesn't matter which distro you run, just how you configure it. I've seen plenty of distro's pass 200 days uptime easy, and have a Mandrake machine with over 400 days uptime right now, which is a router,accounting,firewall,QoS machine routing multiple T1's.
It doesn't get the distance that 2.4GHz does, and the further you get away from the AP the faster it drops speed because of that. So you'll be lucky to get 802.11b speeds out of it unless you are sitting on top of it, what's the point of being wireless?
802.11's link and ethernet layer aren't secure, and if the underlying security issues aren't taken care of it won't help anything that's pasted to it. I don't care what is added to 802.11 I can still sniff out, and join any 802.11 network, by cracking wep with airsnort, then changing my MAC to an authorized MAC, then I can poison arp tables on the entire network the wireless device is connected to.
Why stop there - sue the gov't for funding creation of the internet, the telco's and cable companies and local ISP's, computer makers, all the individuals the work for ISP's, credit card makers that allow people to pay for internet service... They all play the same part the bandwidth providers do - they make the internet possible, and provided transport of the data in some means. What a total crock of shit.
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And I'm glad, nothing worse than a tough guy scene where you know someone wants to say "Mother Fucker" and it's instead "Melon Farmer". hehe
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Die Hard fans know what I mean
Wait until people get bluetooth type radio chips in their head for the purpose of telepathy, then the spammers will be sending messages straight to your brain!
The voices in my head told me to get a bigger penis!
Probably why it was setup as such, whoever wrote it was hoping the **AA cartels would be blamed.
One wouldn't think this would need training, it should be common sense that something like that video shouldn't be shared.
And I'm waiting for spammer season! :)
Still, 90% of the virus/trojan traffic is due to morons who open attachments or don't do updates. I mean, don't get me wrong I hate MS as much as the next guy, but I think us linux users might have our heads in the clouds if we think linux hasn't had many because it's so secure. It's only as secure as the dumbass behind the keyboard is what I'm getting at.
The computer has to trust the user to be useful, and if the user tells the computer to install software that's _exactly_ what it should do. Problem is when some dipshit decides to install a virus becuase it looks like an attachment from a friend.
I don't use windows myself for many reasons, some of them I consider security reasons, one of the most annoying of those security issues is IE browser hijacking, and spyware activex crap.
So sure MS is way more inviting than linux is for many reasons, but linux is far from immune from user stupidity.
Ok, so the majority of them. And a majority of what isn't is still the stupidity of the users not doing their updates. Which will happen as much with linux, or more. People will go to linux with the illusion that it's more secure, and think they don't have to do updates.
What really pisses me off is when the bristles on the brush melt after the pyroclastic cloud hits :)
Perhaps the software can be modeled to simulate the dropping of a turd in the toilet, so I can see what the minimum safe distance to keep my toothbrush from the toilet will be.
Yeah, to some extent. I think the distro's and desktop makers are doing a good job making things like rpm and apt usable to non-root users through wrappers. For most people if they had to be root to install software all the time they'll just run as root all the time.
Many people will be confused by the security model of unix and run as root all the time so they don't have to su to traceroute, make install, etc...
As we all really know viruses are spread by stupidity of users, not the OS'es, so Linux popularity on the desktop will be it's deciding factor to virus targeting.
As it becomes easier to use and more useful to dumbasses who still open attachments they aren't expecting, it will likely be targeted more by virus writers.
Stiff them on $2 and get fined up the ass.
I don't care if they are monitoring mine, I'm not plotting against anyone. And if I were, I'd deserve to be caught.
Do your ass cheeks move when you talk? You don't seem to have a clue about a damn thing, do you?
Mandrake is not www.redhat.com for one, and it's not even the latest distro to be added to the list. Linux/Unix doesn't have a need for antivirus because it's not inviting the viruses as other OS'es do.
Have you tried mutt?
That's because they use 200 per mailserver so they can get around spam IP filters.
Because they can only pay attention to 20% less surroundings.
Shit - I just took the wires and touched them together in succession to dial rotary style. ;)
I can imagine just the signal alone being a security issue. The reason subs don't use active sonar all the time is because it gives away their position. It sure will make it easy for enemy forces to find our battleships, when all they have to do is listen for 802.11b, 2.4GHz transmissions.
200mW cards only output more power they have the same input sensetivity so I doubt it's going to actually yeild much better range. Since the cards antenna is still inside the box so to speak.
God I get pissed every time I hear this shit. What about airplane cockpits, cars, guns, nuclear test facilities, operating rooms for blind doctors, etc...? What about bicycles for quadraplegics? Gymnastic equipment for leppers? Dictionaries for braindead? Toilet paper for amputees?
What a load of crap - the distro is only as resource hungry as the apps YOU chose to run on it or install. Unless you are talking about the kernel, in which case just compile a new one. It doesn't matter which distro you run, just how you configure it. I've seen plenty of distro's pass 200 days uptime easy, and have a Mandrake machine with over 400 days uptime right now, which is a router,accounting,firewall,QoS machine routing multiple T1's.
It doesn't get the distance that 2.4GHz does, and the further you get away from the AP the faster it drops speed because of that. So you'll be lucky to get 802.11b speeds out of it unless you are sitting on top of it, what's the point of being wireless?
802.11's link and ethernet layer aren't secure, and if the underlying security issues aren't taken care of it won't help anything that's pasted to it. I don't care what is added to 802.11 I can still sniff out, and join any 802.11 network, by cracking wep with airsnort, then changing my MAC to an authorized MAC, then I can poison arp tables on the entire network the wireless device is connected to.
Why stop there - sue the gov't for funding creation of the internet, the telco's and cable companies and local ISP's, computer makers, all the individuals the work for ISP's, credit card makers that allow people to pay for internet service... They all play the same part the bandwidth providers do - they make the internet possible, and provided transport of the data in some means. What a total crock of shit.