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Asteroid Impact Simulator Available

crem_d_genes writes "Scientists at the University of Arizona's Lunar and Planetary Laboratory have developed an online program that calculates the effects of an asteroid impact that can be customized for several parameters. Results and the frequency of the type of event you have selected are displayed with an explanation of what they mean. A news briefing of the full story is available."

224 comments

  1. Cool by Zoshnell · · Score: 4, Funny

    Then I can see at which point Bruce Willis and his crew will have to detonate the nuke warhead to save us all. Hollywood here I come!

    Oh wait... f1r5t p05t

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    1. Re:Cool by Jason+Straight · · Score: 2, Funny

      Perhaps the software can be modeled to simulate the dropping of a turd in the toilet, so I can see what the minimum safe distance to keep my toothbrush from the toilet will be.

    2. Re:Cool by Axem · · Score: 1, Informative

      You do realize when you flush it aerates it and the fecal matter can travel up to 20 feet.

      So make sure you put the cover down if you want your toothbrush to be safe.

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    3. Re:Cool by 74nova · · Score: 1

      just how do you drop said turd? im usually covering the top with my arse at the time, thus preventing splashing on my toothbrush.

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    4. Re:Cool by Monsieur+Canard · · Score: 1

      Mythbusters did an experiment about this recently. The end result was that no matter where you put the toothbrush (even in a closed container in another room), you still run the risk of fecal coliform bacteria contamination.

      That's why I don't brush.

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    5. Re:Cool by cluckshot · · Score: 1

      Isn't Math Grand! It can extend beyond any rationality. Added to a computer it can completely depart reality.

      I experimented with this using different masses and different velocities. I could get a circumstance where a 400 Kiloton blast would occur about every 54 years on earth from an Iron 20m across. The programmers here are simply too enthusiastic about the end of the world. Nice calculator though and probably correct in the mid ranges of the parameters but not likely on the far ends either way you go.

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    6. Re:Cool by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I could get a circumstance where a 400 Kiloton blast would occur about every 54 years on earth from an Iron 20m across.

      They do. ALthough the last one was a little bit over 54 years ago in siberia.

    7. Re:Cool by Scratch-O-Matic · · Score: 3, Funny

      Reminds me more of the "Radical Vertical Impact Simulator" from "Spies Like Us."

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    8. Re:Cool by caulfield · · Score: 2, Funny

      ...an online program that calculates the effects of an asteroid impact that can be customized for several parameters.

      Of Course! What Armageddon needs is parameters!

      bash$ armageddon --no-ben-affleck --no-bruckheimer --no-rediculous-fucking-mech-warrior-drilling-mach ines-with-shitty-transmissions --with-scenes-longer-that-5-seconds

      Duh! (karma to burn)

  2. Now I can answer that age old question. by dtfinch · · Score: 5, Funny

    What would happen if a neutron star the size of the moon smacked into the earth at the speed of light?

    Inputs:
    Projectile Diameter: 10000000.00 m = 32800000.00 ft = 6210.00 miles
    Projectile Density: 80000 kg/m3 (ironx10, probably an underestimate)
    Impact Velocity: 300000.00 km/s = 186300.00 miles/s (speed of light)
    Impact Angle: 45 degrees

    Output:
    Energy: 1.88 x 1042 Joules = 4.50 x 1026 MegaTons TNT
    Transient Crater Diameter: 2897115.48 km = 1799108.71 miles
    Final Crater Diameter: 20162191.03 km = 12520720.63 miles

    We might not make it.

    1. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      ummm....if something has velocity = speed of light, then does it not have "undefined" mass? m = m_0/sqrt(1-(v^2/c^2))

    2. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by Eosha · · Score: 1

      a crater over a light-minute across...cool. Now all I need is a neutron star. Oh yeah, and a way to accellerate it to lightspeed.

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    3. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by 5E-0W2 · · Score: 1

      Probably? Neutron star density is in the 1016kg/m3 range. Though I don't think neutron stars come that small.

    4. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by cavebear42 · · Score: 1

      you all scare me.

    5. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by SlayerofGods · · Score: 0

      Way WAY off on the density.
      Try more like
      2.4 x 10^17 kg/m^3
      and for those of you that want to see that...
      2,400,000,000,000,000,000 kg/m^3
      Insane isn't it?

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    6. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hey, dumbass, the moon has a diameter of 2,160 miles (11.4 million feet), not 6,210 miles (32.8 million feet).

      Of course, I rather doubt this increases our chances of surviving the impact.

    7. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by 5E-0W2 · · Score: 1

      10^16 kg/m^3. Damn html filtering.

    8. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by SlayerofGods · · Score: 0

      Come that small? Thats huge for a neutron star (more then is actualy possable, it would collapse into a black hole and all)
      They're normaly only like 15km across.

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    9. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by eggstasy · · Score: 3, Informative

      Those results are hardly user-friendly. If you're not a physics genius, there's a better simulator here.
      In addition to the scientific number-spam, it briefly explains the results and even presents a picture of a real crater that is thought to have been caused by a meteor similar to the one you specified.
      It doesn't seem to have the same degree of flexibility as the one in the article, however, but at least it's fun! :)

    10. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      Not probably. Definitely. Neutron star density is in the range of 7x10^17 kg/m^3. His projectile diameter was also WAY off. With proper inputs (ignoring relativistic effects), the resulting crater is 18.25 light-days across, or about 80 times the average distance from the sun to Pluto (5.87 billion km).

      Your Inputs:
      Projectile Diameter: 3476000.00 m = 11401280.00 ft = 2158.60 miles
      Projectile Density: 700000000000000000 kg/m^3
      Impact Velocity: 300000.00 km/s = 186300.00 miles/s
      Impact Angle: 45 degrees
      Target Density: 5515 kg/m^3
      Target Type: Competent Rock or saturated soil

      Energy:
      6.93 x 10^53 Joules = 1.65 x 10^38 MegaTons TNT
      The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is 3.0 x 10^31years

      Crater Size:
      Transient Crater Diameter: 21373187144.60 km = 13272749216.79 miles
      Final Crater Diameter: 473444047394.05 km = 294008753431.70 miles

      The crater formed is a complex crater.

      The above statement is true because it's a bitch to calculate the appearance of the crater once it's structure has been sucked into a neutron star. :)

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    11. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by CanadianCrackPot · · Score: 0

      Well I don't know about the Neutron star but we're certainly screwed if we smack into the counter Earth at the speed of light.

      Your Inputs:
      Distance from Impact: 0.00 km = 0.00 miles
      Projectile Diameter: 12756320.00 m = 41840729.60 ft = 7921.67 miles
      Projectile Density: 3000 kg/m3
      Impact Velocity: 300000.00 km/s = 186300.00 miles/s
      Impact Angle: 90 degrees
      Target Density: 3000 kg/m3
      Target Type: Competent Rock or saturated soil

      Energy:
      1.47 x 1041 Joules = 3.51 x 1025 MegaTons TNT
      The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is 5.1 x 10^21years

      Crater Size:
      What does this mean?

      Transient Crater Diameter: 1316074.50 km = 817282.26 miles
      Final Crater Diameter: 8266150.33 km = 5133279.36 miles

      The crater formed is a complex crater.

      Ejecta:
      What does this mean?

      Your position was inside the transient crater and ejected upon impact
      Now that's a spicy meatball of a crater, bigger than the Earth!

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    12. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by random+coward · · Score: 1

      The model does not take relitivistic effects on the velecity near c. I put one in at 310000km/s and it still calculated and that is over 1c! So at the speed of light we are much worse off than shown.

    13. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by Nakkel · · Score: 1

      So, any volunteers to go and blow that one to pieces and save the Earth? Anyone?

    14. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by Anthony · · Score: 1

      Minor nitpick. Your density figure seems a tad low. Mantle density is about 3300kg/m^3 and the core ~8000.

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    15. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by Bendebecker · · Score: 1

      That's nothing. How about a direct impact with a quasar? Your Inputs: Distance from Impact: 0.00 km = 0.00 miles Projectile Diameter: 9999999999999.00 m = 32799999999996.72 ft = 6210000000.00 miles Projectile Density: 999999999999 kg/m3 Impact Velocity: 160999999998.39 km/s = 99980999999.00 miles/s Impact Angle: 90 degrees Target Density: 1 kg/m3 Target Type: Competent Rock or saturated soil Energy: 6.79 x 1078 Joules = 1.62 x 10^63 MegaTons TNT The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is 5.2 x 10^50years Crater Size: Transient Crater Diameter: 172935713696720512.00 km = 107393078205663440.00 miles Final Crater Diameter: 30291868642950488064.00 km = 18811250427272253440.00 miles The crater formed is a complex crater. Ejecta: Your position was inside the transient crater and ejected upon impact.

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    16. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by Bendebecker · · Score: 1

      That's nothing. How about a direct impact with a quasar?

      Your Inputs:
      Distance from Impact: 0.00 km = 0.00 miles
      Projectile Diameter: 9999999999999.00 m = 32799999999996.72 ft = 6,210,000,000.00 miles (The Earth has a diameter of about 7,900 miles)
      Projectile Density: 999999999999 kg/m3 (Blackhole)
      Impact Velocity: 160999999998.39 km/s = 99,980,999,999.00 miles/s (Approx. 537, 000 times the speed of light)
      Impact Angle: 90 degrees
      Target Density: 1 kg/m3
      Target Type: Competent Rock or saturated soil

      Energy:
      6.79 x 1078 Joules = 1.62 x 10^63 MegaTons TNT (Twice the magnitude of a supernova)
      The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is 5.2 x 10^50years (If one occurs before the last proton in the universe is ripped apart by Entralpy, it would be the equivalent of winning the lottery - aka. the odds still would not be in its favor.)

      Crater Size:
      Transient Crater Diameter: 172935713696720512.00 km = 107,393,078,205,663,440.00 miles
      Final Crater Diameter: 30291868642950488064.00 km = 18,811,250,427,272,253,440.00 miles (3.2 million lightyears - a megaparsec - Our Galaxy is part of a group or cluster of galaxies that is known as the Local Group. The Local Group has a diameter of about 3 million lightyears and contains two big galaxies and about 20 smaller ones. http://www.sunspot.noao.edu/sunspot/pr/answerbook/ motion.html)
      The crater formed is a complex crater.

      Ejecta:
      Your position was inside the transient crater and ejected upon impact.

      What does this mean?
      If it hits, your fucked.

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    17. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by Bendebecker · · Score: 1

      Further clarification: By the twice the magnitude, what I really meant is it is 10^30 (supernova) x 10^30 (supernova). Yes I know that is way beyond twice the magnitude of a supernova, it is 10^30 times the magnitude of a supernova.

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    18. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by CanadianCrackPot · · Score: 0

      So take a look at that crater size.

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    19. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by B.D.Mills · · Score: 1

      Or, to put it another way, don't be near ground zero when the SCO stock price makes a crater.

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    20. Re:Now I can answer that age old question. by denise_yenko · · Score: 1

      I used as parameters the weapon that Earth used on the Kzin in one of the Man-Kzin War stories. 10 meter iron ball, boosted to half light speed using a long slingshot orbital run over the ecliptic, and got a little bitty ol' crater 35 klicks across, and yielding only 4.71 x 10 to the 22 Joules, or 1.13x10 to the 7th megatons of energy. The fireball, from 100 klicks away is a measly 44 km wide, and only lasts for a minute and a half. On the other hand the air blast seems fairly satisfying, -- 92 db at 100 km. A reasonably nice 'bang"!, all in all. Ejecta spatter at 100 km seems a trifle excessive, at 3 meters deep and a mean chunk size of about 25 cm. My observation is that if it were realitively (no punning here) easy to boost an iron ingot up to half the speed of light, it would make a pretty fair weapon, but not, as someone else noted, a planet buster. In the strory I had in mind, it kind of ruined the Kzinti's day. (well the hapless humans there, as well, but to make omelets...)

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  3. some hints by AtariAmarok · · Score: 5, Funny

    when big slow rocks get hit, they can break up into little fast rocks that might impact your ship

    The fastest way to a high score is to treat the rocks as obstacles, and concentrate on shooting the little fast ship.

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  4. Why dosen't the moon get knocked out of orbit? by e1618978 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Really big honkin' rocks hit the earth every X million years, so it seems like they would hit the moon every (X*6) million years or so - why is the moon still there?

    1. Re:Why dosen't the moon get knocked out of orbit? by KhalidBoussouara · · Score: 0

      The moon has never existed at all. It's all a conspiracy.

    2. Re:Why dosen't the moon get knocked out of orbit? by strictnein · · Score: 2, Informative

      Really big honkin' rocks hit the earth every X million years

      Because the moon is much much much bigger than those "big honkin' rocks". A big meteor hitting earth or the moon is 1km in diameter.

      A 1-2km rock hitting earth destroys most life on a continent on earth. 5-10km destroys most (larger) life across the planet.

      The cockroaches will, of course, continue to live.

    3. Re:Why dosen't the moon get knocked out of orbit? by another_henry · · Score: 2, Funny

      Because it's REALLY FUCKING BIG. Agh! Why is it that so many people don't get this? (not a rant at you in particular) What is it with everyone thinking that by mining the moon or landing rockets on it we're going to shift it out of its orbit or something? It's -big-, people!

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    4. Re:Why dosen't the moon get knocked out of orbit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Because it's REALLY FUCKING BIG. Agh! Why is it that so many people don't get this? (not a rant at you in particular) What is it with everyone thinking that by mining the moon or landing rockets on it we're going to shift it out of its orbit or something? It's -big-, people!"

      Is it as big as the trip down to the chemist?

    5. Re:Why dosen't the moon get knocked out of orbit? by goodhell · · Score: 4, Funny

      Actually the moon is slowly expanding its orbit. It is moving farther and farther from the earth and one day the earth will no longer have a moon. Check it out here. A brief explanation on our falling moon!

      But by the time we don't have a moon, we'll have a giant space station up there that will take its place. And then everyone will be quoting "That's no moon, that's a space station."

    6. Re:Why dosen't the moon get knocked out of orbit? by pilgrim23 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It does. I am quite sure the orbital dynamics of the Earth and the Moon have been influenced by impacts. Example: prior to the dinosaur killer 64 million years ago, I do believe that Earth had never before experienced an Ice Age. Even BIGGER example: the Permian mass extinction (remember Trilobites?) 248 million years ago; I think there is good indications that Earth's orbit was quite different prior to that event. Certainly the atmosphere, climate zones, sea structure and compositions etc were. Look at the Moon. Next full Moon, look closely at Tyco Crater. That is one honkin HUGE hole! look north and south near Tyco. What you see is...cracks. Sometime in the past, a collision occurred that almost cracked the moon in half. The luck of the draw isn't every X*6 million years, it is once....only once. So far, Mammals have won this all important lottery...

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    7. Re:Why dosen't the moon get knocked out of orbit? by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

      > But by the time we don't have a moon, we'll have a giant
      > space station up there that will take its place. And then
      > everyone will be quoting "That's no moon, that's a
      > space station."

      I have a bad feeling about that...

    8. Re:Why dosen't the moon get knocked out of orbit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny
      It is moving farther and farther from the earth and one day the earth will no longer have a moon

      So if you extrapoloate that back a few tens of millions of years...hmmm...well, now we know what killed the dinosaurs. Well, the tall ones at least.

    9. Re:Why dosen't the moon get knocked out of orbit? by goodhell · · Score: 1
      OK. A little clarification.

      The problem with extrapolating outside of your data range is that you may get erroneous data (error prone data). As is the case of extrapolating backwards in time to see how close the moon was. There are a lot of factors that we just don't have data for that would explain what was going on at that point in time.

      Some others have done work on this. Here is what they say:

      ...our moon was probably never closer than 151,000 miles. A modern astronomy text (Chaisson and McMillan, 1993, p.173) gives an estimate of 250,000 kilometers (155,000 miles), which agrees very closely with Brush's figure.

    10. Re:Why dosen't the moon get knocked out of orbit? by Hentai · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Umm... Tycho Crater actually isn't nearly as big as Copernicus crater, and even that didn't "crack" anything more than the moon's outer surface. The moon is really, REALLY big - at the size of planets and moons, anything big enough to deform its general shape won't leave a "crater" so much as just mush the moon into two or more smaller objects, that will each collapse into spheres under their own gravity. So if you're seeing a crater on something the size of a planet, it was WAY too small to actually break it.

      Likewise, the earth's orbit hasn't shifted significantly since the moon was formed - which was at least 3 billion years ago. Anything else big enough to shift the earth's orbit would have made another moon. Remember, at these scales, the concept of solididity doesn't work exactly the way you'd think it would.

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    11. Re:Why dosen't the moon get knocked out of orbit? by Dirtside · · Score: 1
      But by the time we don't have a moon, we'll have a giant space station up there that will take its place.
      Oh, probably by the time we're capable of building a space station 3,476 km in diameter, we'll probably be able to harness enough energy to simply force the moon to stay in its orbit. :)

      Actually, by then, we'll probably have enough energy to fix Earth's axial tilt and eliminate seasons altogether! I can't wait! *spends next thousand years waiting*

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    12. Re:Why dosen't the moon get knocked out of orbit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      'Cause JESUS be holding it in place! Question not the LORD, heathen!!

    13. Re:Why dosen't the moon get knocked out of orbit? by AwesomeJT · · Score: 1

      Great, another something mankind can't leave well enough alone. We haven't learned that in the last 1000 years, I won't count on it in the next. Knowing our poor judgement and arrogance, we'll destroy the entire planent trying it out.

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    14. Re:Why dosen't the moon get knocked out of orbit? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude...it was a joke. I don't think anyone actually thinks that dinosaurs were decapitated by the moon in XLEO (XTREME! Low Earth Orbit)

    15. Re:Why dosen't the moon get knocked out of orbit? by Carnildo · · Score: 2, Informative

      Next full Moon, look closely at Tyco Crater. That is one honkin HUGE hole! look north and south near Tyco. What you see is...cracks. Sometime in the past, a collision occurred that almost cracked the moon in half. The luck of the draw isn't every X*6 million years, it is once....only once. So far, Mammals have won this all important lottery

      At the speeds and scales involved in asteroid impacts, the bodies involved are effectivly liquid. You can't "crack" the moon any more than you can "crack" a drop of water. The "cracks" you see are splashes of rock, thrown out during the impact.

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    16. Re:Why dosen't the moon get knocked out of orbit? by RagingDaigo · · Score: 1

      Another reason why it is important to look deeper than your best model or simulation. We can all agree that rubber balls on string only take us so far into understanding. The enxt step is realizing that computer data should be treated the same. We've come a long way since the crystaline spheres model and yet we haven't

    17. Re:Why dosen't the moon get knocked out of orbit? by Abreu · · Score: 1

      Because HG Wells told us so?

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    18. Re:Why dosen't the moon get knocked out of orbit? by Bendebecker · · Score: 1

      At the current rate, the Earth will have been swallowed up by the red giant phase of Sol before it escapes Earth orbit.

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  5. This simulator was originally… by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    ...used by architects commissioned to build a house for Anna Nicole Smith. After her shocking transformation, they felt repurposing the simulator would be quite easy for cosmic body impact.

  6. Everytime I run it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I die. This isn't very fun. How do you win?

    1. Re:Everytime I run it by Jhon · · Score: 3, Funny

      [Cheesey synthesized voice]
      A strange game. The only winning move is not to play.
      [/Cheesey syntheszed voice]

    2. Re:Everytime I run it by SEWilco · · Score: 1

      You win by finding the size of rock which kills only you and not your neighbor, then the size which kills your state, and the size which kills your continent. Then estimate the frequency of such impacts.

    3. Re:Everytime I run it by Diellan · · Score: 0

      I know! I know! Just put in all zeros!

    4. Re:Everytime I run it by marcom+cowboy · · Score: 1

      Greetings Professor Falken. How about a nice game of chess?

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  7. Hmm? by Knight+Thrasher · · Score: 2, Funny

    Doeas this mean the effects of an impact on... the planet? A human? A dead badger?

    1. Re:Hmm? by MBAFK · · Score: 2, Funny

      "A dead badger?"

      Who cares about the badger, what about the mushrooms and the SNNNAAAKKE!

    2. Re:Hmm? by Ithika · · Score: 1

      Snake, aagh! Snake!

    3. Re:Hmm? by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

      This gives me an idea. At the rate dancing badgers multiply (as seen by that documentary you just referred to), I think that a careful breeding program to make them able to withstand the rigours of space could make for a great asteroid impact shield. Simply put a bunch of them in orbit around the Earth (beyond the Moon), and let them dance & multiply until they complete protect our planet. At night, instead of stars, we can all watch the dancing badgers knowing we're fully protected from asteroid impact, or mushrooms or snakes.

      Okay, now for the research grant proposal...

    4. Re:Hmm? by shadowbearer · · Score: 2, Funny


      I FINALLY got that stupid song out of my head, and you.... you...

      You insensitive clod! :)

      SB

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  8. Good simulation by ximor_iksivich · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Good simulation, but I think the impact would depend upon which part of the planet the meteor/asteroid strikes as the geographic composition would affect that.

    1. Re:Good simulation by spuke4000 · · Score: 1

      I think the simulation takes this into account. It lets you specify target density, or allows you to select one of 4 pre-defined densities...

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    2. Re:Good simulation by JWW · · Score: 1

      What suprised me about that is there wasn't an entry for water, which just happend to be the most likely thing to get hit.

    3. Re:Good simulation by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      Since the majority of our planet is covered in water I would be curious as to the tsumia's as a result of a devasting impact.

      Dirt being studied at the bottom of lakes in British Columbia have sea sediment layers mixed with both sides of fresh water sediment. There are several incidents layered in.

      Perhaps large Tsuami's have been battering the world for quite some time. Perhaps not as large as the killer one 65 million years ago, but still enough to do drastic killer waves.

  9. AWWW.... by Ogrez · · Score: 2, Funny

    When I saw program... I was thinking along the lines of the Truck dismount..

    Not really that funny until you start thinking of the little mans position riding the meteor...

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  10. Homeland security issue? by vudufixit · · Score: 5, Funny

    If you notice an asteroid with a swarthy complexion, a headscarf and a Koran using this simulation against sensitive targets on Earth, please notify the Dept of Homeland Security - immediately.

    1. Re:Homeland security issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      oh man, im really surprised you didnt get modded down to oblivion. it was funny, but you know how the mods usually are...

    2. Re:Homeland security issue? by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

      Infidel dog, if we get hit by an asteroid, it is the will of Allah, and any attempt to thwart Allah's will shall be met with the full force of...oh, geez, nevermind; I just haven't had my morning coffee, yet.

    3. Re:Homeland security issue? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      you do realize that Allah is the arabic word for god...

    4. Re:Homeland security issue? by Tumbleweed · · Score: 1

      As you should be able to tell by how I used the word 'Allah' in my posting, yeah, I do. Do you have a point?

  11. Meteor Crater up near the Grand Canyon by portforward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I went to the Meteor Crater in Northern Arizona and at the visitor center they had something very similar, with graphics and everything. You put in the speed, angle, size and density of the asteroid, and they had a graphical display of the damage.
    Not to take anything away from the UofA. I live in Tucson, and know some of the planetary scientists.

    1. Re:Meteor Crater up near the Grand Canyon by AndroidCat · · Score: 1

      I want a simulator where I can drop (small ones) on a particular location, like the one that showed the effects of a nuclear blast on a map. It was always fun to plug in the location of a spammer's house and see the results of 10 megatons of "spoil his day".

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  12. Better yet by ObviousGuy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Why not start researching realistic methods of destroying/deflecting these menaces before they get the chance to do their damage on us? If we change our mindset from one of reacting to one of being proactive towards the elimination of these threats, we will not only improve our chances of surviving an asteroid attack, we will also be able to reap the scientific technology breakthroughs that came along with such research.

    I'm just a lowly slashbot and don't have much say in how things are run at the upper echelons of government, but I think that it goes without saying that anyone who is serious about eliminating these threats needs to focus energies on 1) identifying suspicious threats, and 2) developing and using technologies that will neutralize those threats.

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    1. Re:Better yet by foidulus · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Well, a system to deflect/destroy the asteroid would cost a LOT of money, and despite like you said that there would be scientific breakthroughs etc associated with this, in these times of record deficits, nobody wants to be the one who boasts spending all this money on something that seems like a far off event to most people, they want government spending on something more tangible. However, these people who do not want to spend any money would be the ones pointing fingers at scientists and asking why they cannot do anything about it. I suppose it's one of those paradoxical things, people want the benefits of scientific research, but at the same time don't want to spend any money on it.

    2. Re:Better yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      Why not start researching realistic methods of destroying/deflecting these menaces before they get the chance to do their damage on us? If we change our mindset from one of reacting to one of being proactive towards the elimination of these threats, we will not only improve our chances of surviving an asteroid attack, we will also be able to reap the scientific technology breakthroughs that came along with such research.

      I think it's sad that we can't talk about assteroids without wanting to save the planet

    3. Re:Better yet by Monsieur+Canard · · Score: 1

      Research/Schmesearch

      We just get Kirk - sorry, Kirok - to go down into the temple thingy and punch a few runes.

      Then there is much sex with Meramanee.

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    4. Re:Better yet by elviscious · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For starters because most of the life threatening asteroids that we see usually end up being discovered as they fly by us. It seems that most of the time we find out about the asteroids after they have just passed dangerously close to us, or when they are so close we would be screwed.

      I would say that it would be more useful to start at the beginning of the problem and search the sky for these first... but I think most of that money was probably redirected to Mars.

    5. Re:Better yet by KhalidBoussouara · · Score: 1

      Tell SCO that the asteroid is inhabited by aliens running unlicensed copies of Linux who are refusing to pay the $699 license fee.

      Although I doubt this would work as SCO haven't actually done much. Still, we should send them up there anyway to get rid of Darl Mc Bride.

    6. Re:Better yet by Fizzl · · Score: 1

      blahblabh...mindset...blahblah....proactive...blah blahblah....scientific technology breakthroughs....blah....upper echelons of government...blah...focus energies....blahblah...


      You happen to work in middle management?

    7. Re:Better yet by 3waygeek · · Score: 2, Informative

      Like this proposal from two former astronauts?

    8. Re:Better yet by TwoBeans · · Score: 1

      "Why not start researching realistic methods of destroying/deflecting these menaces before they get the chance to do their damage on us?"

      Fuck that. We deserve to be creamed by a cosmic cueball in Infinity's game of snooker. Oh great Shiva, we beseech you! Earthball in the corner pocket!

      -2B

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    9. Re:Better yet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Why not start researching realistic methods of destroying/deflecting these menaces before they get the chance to do their damage on us?

      You always live up to your name, man. Is there any particular reason why you think that this online program did not evolve from research of exactly that type? Perhaps as a way to separate the impacts too small to worry about from the big ones?

      I'm just a lowly slashbot and don't have much say in how things are run at the upper echelons of government

      As a side note, I personally am terrified to think that the University of Arizona qualifies as the "upper echelons of government". :)

    10. Re:Better yet by CAIMLAS · · Score: 1

      Get real. Governments have more realistic threats, concerns, and such, even if you exclude the problems they've made for themselves.

      - wars
      - criminals
      - poverty
      - health care
      - etc., etc.

      Any one of those things are significantly more prevailant than a large asteroid impact, let alone an extinction-level event (ELE?).

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  13. ouch by gmiley01 · · Score: 3, Funny

    Your Inputs:
    Distance from Impact: 1.00 km = 0.62 miles
    Projectile Diameter: 3218.68 m = 10557.27 ft = 2.00 miles
    Projectile Density: 8000 kg/m3
    Impact Velocity: 80500.00 km/s = 49990.50 miles/s
    Impact Angle: 45 degrees
    Target Density: 3000 kg/m3
    Target Type: Competent Rock or saturated soil
    Energy:
    4.53 x 1029 Joules = 1.08 x 1014 MegaTons TNT
    The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is 7.0 x 1012years
    Crater Size:
    What does this mean?

    Transient Crater Diameter: 1423.11 km = 883.75 miles
    Final Crater Diameter: 3678.54 km = 2284.37 miles
    The crater formed is a complex crater.
    Ejecta:
    What does this mean?

    Your position was inside the transient crater and ejected upon impact

    -------------

    Hope this doesn't hit me...

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    1. Re:ouch by Camel+Pilot · · Score: 2, Informative

      Impact Velocity: 80500.00 km/s = 49990.50 miles/s

      Ooch is right. I think your velocity might be a little above the mean at a ~1/4 of the speed of light.

      I noticed on their examples they used 20 km/s consistantly. Is this the solar system speed limit or something?

    2. Re:ouch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It doesn't have to hit you.

      Even if you were 5 miles away you'd still be in the transient crater and you'd be "ejected".

    3. Re:ouch by FreeTheFurniture! · · Score: 1

      <snip>
      Distance from Impact: 0.00 km = 0.00 miles
      Projectile Diameter: 0.02 m = 0.07 ft = 0.00 miles
      Projectile Density: 8000 kg/m3
      Impact Velocity: 0.03 km/s = 0.02 miles/s
      Impact Angle: 90 degrees
      Target Density: 1500 kg/m3
      Target Type: Competent Rock or saturated soil

      This projectile is too small to traverse the atmosphere intact; it does not form a crater on the surface.
      </snip>

      So on the upside, this proves that dropping a quarter from the top of a high-rise poses no threat whatsoever. Once again, my parents lied to me.

    4. Re:ouch by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      > I noticed on their examples they used 20 km/s consistantly. Is this the solar system speed limit or something?

      The earth travels with 30 km/s around the sun. I don't know how fast asteroids can be, but I don't think they are much faster - and then you have to use vector algebra to calculate the speed of an asteroid relative to the earth.
      So 20km/s don't seem unreasonable.

    5. Re:ouch by Tango42 · · Score: 1

      That's one tall high-rise building if there's enough air between the top of it, and the ground, for it to vapourise...

    6. Re:ouch by TrevorB · · Score: 1

      Suggestion: When the comet or asteriod does come, try to be a bit farther away than 1000 meters from the impact site. You'll be surprised how much the effects drop off with distance.

      We should have a good amount of warning on any impact. Hell, 72 hours notice should be enough to evacuate the area for a 100 year or 1000 year asteriod. This program (with Realistic numbers, the impact above occurs once in 7 trillion years, about 500 times the age of the universe itself) has made me feel much more comfortable and not less. (quick calculation) 50km should be enough safe distance from a 1300 year frequency asteroid.. you could walk that if you had to in 3 days...

    7. Re:ouch by ptbarnett · · Score: 2, Informative
      I noticed on their examples they used 20 km/s consistantly. Is this the solar system speed limit or something?

      Try this simulator referenced earlier in the thread:

      http://janus.astro.umd.edu/astro/impact.html

      If you enter a speed lower than 11.2 km/s, you will get this error message:

      As an object falls toward a planet, it is accelerated by the planet's gravity. The slowest possible impact speed for interplanetary material is the planet's escape velocity. Impact speeds for Earth range from 11.2 km/s to 72.8 km/s. Try again with a faster speed!

    8. Re:ouch by HeghmoH · · Score: 1

      That isn't the speed limit, but there is a speed limit. If something goes too fast, then it will escape into interstellar space. The only way for something to be going faster inside the solar system is if it came from interstellar space and is headed back out; this is, understandably, an extremely rare event. As another poster said, at our distance from the Sun, the max speed (when combined with Earth's orbital speed in a worst-case scenario) is around 72km/sec, and past that the object goes out and never comes back.

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  14. Next Gen? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Is this simulator a sequal of this simulator?

  15. Sims for Bruce Willis and two space shuttles? by Vexler · · Score: 2, Funny

    That way, we can watch "Armageddon" from the comfort of our research lab plasma screens.

  16. Other simulation available by MarkGriz · · Score: 5, Funny

    Seems they've also designed an IP Packet Impact Simulator

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    1. Re:Other simulation available by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Sorry, this has existed before as prior art. It is called "The Slashdot Effect"

  17. It might be overkill by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

    But could this simulation be used to calculate the airspeed velocity of a laden swallow?

  18. Better than simulator by GarbanzoBean · · Score: 1, Funny

    Scientists at the University of Arizona's Lunar and Planetary Laboratory have performed the experiment that measures the effect of slashdotting on their server.

  19. On another note by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    On another note, University Researchers underestimaged the impact of slashdotting the page.

  20. Apparent impact on server by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    Now we know that striking a webserver with millions of weightless packets, some traveling at the speed of light, will... um, kill it.

  21. OT - Space Rock Impact Comic by Embedded+Geek · · Score: 1
    I remember a comic a few years ago when Hollywood put out all those giant-space-rock-hits-the-earth movies like Deep Impact. In the comic, a couple is standing in front of a giant, garish "Planet Hollywood" restaurant. The man shakes his head sadly and comments:

    "Where's a giant flaming meteor when you need one?"

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  22. Why not?? by Virtucon · · Score: 2, Funny

    Why not put the grad students to work on identification and tracking solutions rather than the assessment of the impact.

    Let's see, any asteroid, of say the size of the HST falling to earth will cause damage. This is not spongeworthy!

    Now scientists and FUD dwellers have a rapid tool to ascertain everyone's doom. What we need now is a wireless version, running on a PDA so we can calculate at any whim a what if scenario because the big rock will fall on us and we didn't see it coming!

    1) First Identify and Track
    2) ???
    3) Profit!

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  23. Aiming? by Alsier · · Score: 5, Funny

    I can't find the field to enter in my ex-girlfriends coordinates in.

    1. Re:Aiming? by Virtucon · · Score: 1

      Naw, My Ex-Wife and her lawyer both!

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      Harrison's Postulate - "For every action there is an equal and opposite criticism"
    2. Re:Aiming? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      "I can't find the field to enter in my ex-girlfriends coordinates in."

      Is there a coordinate system that makes use of imaginary numbers?

    3. Re:Aiming? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's because they don't have a field to enter coordinates for fictional people!

    4. Re:Aiming? by zhenlin · · Score: 1

      Haha, only serious...

      Euclidean geometry can be modelled using complex numbers quite well.

      There's also modular geometry, which has two complex axes -- four axes in total. (We have this geometry to thank for the solution of whether there are no solutions for a^n + b^n = c^n for positive integers a, b, c, n and n > 2)

  24. Maybe you need to change your diet? by Saeed+al-Sahaf · · Score: 2, Funny
    How far above the toilet are you sitting?!? That's a lot of splash! Consider a change of diet, or stop standing on the seat when you use it.

    Actually, it's the FLUSH that disperses the fine mist of coliform bacteria...

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  25. I wonder what they'll name the crater... by djward · · Score: 5, Funny

    where their server used to be?

    1. Re:I wonder what they'll name the crater... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The CowboyNeal Crater, of course!

  26. /. impact simulator by DR+SoB · · Score: 1

    Now they have a /. effected simulator.. Kinda cool. It would be interesting to measure exactly what it takes to /. a server, a simulator to do that would be fun, we could see just how many /.ers we'd need to /. microsoft.com

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  27. mist effects make that irrelevant by arete · · Score: 2, Informative

    To me, at least, that simulator wouldn't matter. You're discussing the expelling of toliet water. You can either consider it relatively clean or not. If you consider it not, you have to account for the very fine mist that probably covers most of your bathroom whenever you flush that toliet - you need a cabinet to keep your toothbrush in if that freaks you out.

    It gets worse, though - the most germy place in your house isn't your toliet seat, bathroom floor or toliet water (which is clorinated anyway) - it's generally your refrigerator door handle, followed by other door handles. Which you probably touch before you eat.

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    1. Re:mist effects make that irrelevant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Mythbusters studied this one and found no difference between toothbrushes near the toilet and those in another room. Ecoli is everywhere.

    2. Re:mist effects make that irrelevant by Mateito · · Score: 2, Funny

      > it's generally your refrigerator door handle,
      > followed by other door handles. Which you
      > probably touch before you eat.

      Must remember:

      - Open fridge
      - take out food on plate
      - close fridge
      - scratch balls
      - eat

    3. Re:mist effects make that irrelevant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There's always closing the lid before you flush.

    4. Re:mist effects make that irrelevant by arete · · Score: 1

      If you read my post carefully, I said "need a cabinet... if that freaks you out" I also said it was clorinated water and by far not the most germy stuff in your house.

      If I was unclear that it doesn't pose a known health risk, I apologize. To my knowledge the only risk is psychological.

      With that in mind close the lid if it makes you feel better, but to my knowledge it does not stop there from being a mist present.

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    5. Re:mist effects make that irrelevant by Bri3D · · Score: 1

      Yes, there are more germs on a door or fridge handle, but how dangerous are these germs? Most of the ones on a fridge are pretty harmless(which is why you're not dead). Digestive enzymes, bacteria from your digestive system(e. coli, anyone?), etc. have a much higher chance of harming you than most of the bacteria on door handles. I would rather have 11,000 harmless germs per square inch than 50 smallpox per sdquare inch.

    6. Re:mist effects make that irrelevant by cens0r · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Actually the germs from your own digestive tract aren't that harmful to you. It's someone elses you should worry about.

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  28. Uh-oh by holzp · · Score: 2, Funny

    That crater over there was their server having just been hit by the Slashdot asteriod.

  29. What do you mean? by dethl · · Score: 4, Funny

    But could this simulation be used to calculate the airspeed velocity of a laden swallow?

    African or European?

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    1. Re:What do you mean? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      er, I don't know... AaaaaaaaaaUuuuuuuuuuGgggggggggHhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!

    2. Re:What do you mean? by jwitch · · Score: 1

      Huh? I-- I don't know that! Auuuuuuuugh!

    3. Re:What do you mean? by Billly+Gates · · Score: 1

      But it would have to European since we are in a temperate climate, not a tropical one.

  30. Shopping List by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    So all I need now is an asteroid!

    1. Re:Shopping List by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      You want an asteroid? No problem.

      Here you go.

  31. Just a couple months late by Control+Group · · Score: 4, Interesting
    I could really have used this a couple months ago, when working up background for this (that was only one of several contributions, the full list can be seen here. And now the impact calculator appears down, so I can't check my back-of-the-napkin calculations...

    According to me, at 2600kg/m^3 (a number I based off very sketchy research, but now seems a lot more reasonable), 600m in diameter, with an impact velocity of 2.7E4m/s (which is ~1.0E4m/s higher than the average "small rock" terminal velocity when it burns up), the impact would release as much energy as the entire nuclear arsenal of the world twice over (disregarding ablation during reentry, which I'm guessing would be nominal).

    And that's hardly a huge rock, either.

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    Reality has a conservative bias: it conserves mass, energy, momentum...
    1. Re:Just a couple months late by Unknown+Kadath · · Score: 1

      I'm not clear on your usage of "nominal." I think you mean "minimal."

      Anyway, I'm much more scared of the planet's nuclear arsenal, both because of fallout, and because I think it's way more likely someone in a position of power is going to push the big red button than that the orbit of the Earth will intersect with that of a NEA at exactly the right time. Of course, if big scary aliens are mass-driving us for no apparent reason, I guess all bets are off. ;)

      -Carolyn

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    2. Re:Just a couple months late by Control+Group · · Score: 1
      Well, I meant nominal as in "existing in name only," as opposed to just "named," but you're probably right, "minimal" would have been better. Or possibly "marginal."

      Anyhow

      In terms of risk analysis, you're absolutely right, the nuclear arsenal is much more problematic. Both for the reasons you gave and one more: dead is dead, killing me extra special hard doesn't worry me. So spreading 13MT out over both time and area is more destructive to human life than 26MT released all at once in one spot. Net damage to the planet is less, but net damage to the bits we care about is much higher.

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    3. Re:Just a couple months late by Unknown+Kadath · · Score: 1

      What confused me is that "nominal" in space systems engineering means "operating normally," which I really don't think is what you meant to say at all.

      Though nukes are much more likely to kill me than asteroids, death by nuclear first strike lacks the frisson of being wiped out by giant space rocks. Oh, and you must read Heinlein's "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress" if you haven't already.

      -Carolyn

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  32. Spaceship by nightsweat · · Score: 1

    Do they have the impact calculated when that little spaceship comes out and starts shooting at you? I hate that thing.
    bum bum bum bum bumbumbumbumbbububbububuubm

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  33. Screen Shots!!! by swordboy · · Score: 1

    Here's a screen shot of the simulator.

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  34. LoCs by ubera · · Score: 1

    Seems to be down. Maybe it was hit by an asteroid?

    The ironing is delicious.

    Anyway, it's not of much use to slashdotters I mean, how do you express asteroid impacts in Libraries of Congress?

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    1. Re:LoCs by jazmataz23 · · Score: 1

      I know the "ironing" is delicious, but you're not supposed to eat starch on today's high protein diets. It's about changing our lifestyles, mmkay?

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  35. asteroid 66.35.250.150 has taken down the sim by steelerguy · · Score: 1

    what the hell is the u of a doing with the donations i give them every year! obviouisly not not /. proofing their servers! :)

  36. Damn Slashdotters by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 5, Informative

    Load average on the server is currently 98. We are trying to move it to a more powerful, less utilized server. Oh and it's actually hosted at the Electrical and Computer Engineering department.

    1. Re:Damn Slashdotters by Guppy06 · · Score: 1

      Maybe next time you should work on a slashdotting simulation instead.

    2. Re:Damn Slashdotters by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 1

      We didn't directly have anything to do with it. A student wrote it. We are just the guys that make the servers work.

  37. Pyroclastic by Jason+Straight · · Score: 0

    What really pisses me off is when the bristles on the brush melt after the pyroclastic cloud hits :)

  38. It must be our fault by Saganaga · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hear about people proposing that we should be prepared to attack or deflect any large asteroid heading towards Earth. Instead of trying to do that, I think we should try to understand why the asteroids are attacking us. We need to examine what we have done to the asteroids to make them hate us so much. Ultimately, that's the only way to stop asteroid attacks.

    1. Re:It must be our fault by Loraque · · Score: 1

      We need to examine what we have done to the asteroids to make them hate us so much. Ultimately, that's the only way to stop asteroid attacks.

      Sadly, I think your irony is lost on the typical reader around here.

    2. Re:It must be our fault by Hakubi_Washu · · Score: 1

      Remember, they only hate us because we're free... :-)

  39. Comet and Asteroid Impact Hazards by BlewScreen · · Score: 1
    If you find this information interesting and/or helpful, there's a similar program (in GW-BASIC) included with this book.

    -bs

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  40. But no body count by shoppa · · Score: 2, Funny
    It calculates the blast, depth of ejecta, and the force of the air blast at a distance from ground zero.
    But no body count! (Or obliterated body count, probably more appropriate here.)
    1. Re:But no body count by lipi · · Score: 1

      And no information about the tidal wave, in case ground zero is in water. Also the long term effect of the impact is missing, e.g. the dust in the atmosphere would cause a little ice age.

  41. I've been investigating this for years by Sideshow+Coward · · Score: 1

    What I've determined, is that after a night of vindaloo and lager, the effects asteroid impacts are rather devistating.

  42. Standard Texas Unit by TomorrowPlusX · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm disappointed at the lack of standard-texas-units for the meteor diameter.

    Or, for that matter, the standard volkswagon-bug unit.

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    1. Re:Standard Texas Unit by Paulrothrock · · Score: 0

      Yeah, that would make it easier to visualize.

      If the earth got hit with its clone at 1 m/s, the fireball would be below the horizon.

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    2. Re:Standard Texas Unit by Stuntmonkey · · Score: 1

      I'm disappointed at the lack of standard-texas-units for the meteor diameter.

      Not every large impact will occur in Texas, though we may wish it were so.

  43. /.'ed by whitelabrat · · Score: 1

    Looks like slashdot just had an impact on the server. :)

  44. A more interesting simulator... by Glock27 · · Score: 1
    is here.

    Not only do you get interesting graphics of similar impact craters, but if the impact is big enough you get the Martian from Bugs Bunny making pithy comments while he looks through his telescope at Earth. Cool stuff!

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  45. Old news by poot_rootbeer · · Score: 1


    What's the big deal? I can recall feeding quarters to a similar machine that did this, like, twenty years ago!

  46. It's on a faster server now by Sycraft-fu · · Score: 3, Informative

    Though it's still kinda loaded. Limited to 100 connections at a time. Still a high load, but should work fine now.

    1. Re:It's on a faster server now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny
      ...should work fine now.

      Not to worry. We'll soon put a stop to that.

  47. Earth-sized object by Unnngh! · · Score: 1
    I calculated for an earth-sized object impacting the earth... it replied:

    The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is 1.4 x 10^20 years.

    Granted this is a really really long time, but then again mars is looking awefully close this time of year.

    1. Re:Earth-sized object by Patrik_AKA_RedX · · Score: 1
      The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is 1.4 x 10^20 years.
      Oh no! That means I've got only 1.39999 x 10^20 years to live! Now I never going to see DNF released.
  48. Redone with right numbers by SlayerofGods · · Score: 0

    Your Inputs: Distance from Impact: 0.01 km = 0.01 miles Projectile Diameter: 3479000.00 m = 11411120.00 ft = 2160.46 miles Projectile Density: 2400000000000000000 kg/m3 Impact Velocity: 300000.00 km/s = 186300.00 miles/s Impact Angle: 45 degrees Target Density: 1500 kg/m3 Target Type: Competent Rock or saturated soil Energy: 2.38 x 1054 Joules = 5.69 x 1038 MegaTons TNT The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is 7.6 x 1031years Crater Size: What does this mean? Transient Crater Diameter: 49775696283.87 km = 30910707392.28 miles Final Crater Diameter: 1230682324371.12 km = 764253723434.47 miles The crater formed is a complex crater. Ejecta: What does this mean? Your position was inside the transient crater and ejected upon impact

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  49. this one is better or at least funnier by Mantorp · · Score: 1
  50. dude by ShadowRage · · Score: 1

    did anyone imagine you being behind a giant turret with heavy metal music playing shooting asteroids at planets?

  51. Personally by iibbmm · · Score: 0

    I'd like to map out the effects of a /. impact on a website, with parameters for Hosting capacity; including bandwidth, cpu speed, ram, and cost of monthly bill.

  52. Redone with right numbers take 2.... by SlayerofGods · · Score: 0

    I should have used the preview button =/

    Your Inputs:
    Distance from Impact: 0.01 km = 0.01 miles
    Projectile Diameter: 3479000.00 m = 11411120.00 ft = 2160.46 miles
    Projectile Density: 2400000000000000000 kg/m3
    Impact Velocity: 300000.00 km/s = 186300.00 miles/s
    Impact Angle: 45 degrees
    Target Density: 1500 kg/m3
    Target Type: Competent Rock or saturated soil
    Energy:
    2.38 x 1054 Joules = 5.69 x 1038 MegaTons TNT
    The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is 7.6 x 1031years
    Crater Size:
    What does this mean?

    Transient Crater Diameter: 49775696283.87 km = 30910707392.28 miles
    Final Crater Diameter: 1230682324371.12 km = 764253723434.47 miles
    The crater formed is a complex crater.
    Ejecta:
    What does this mean?

    Your position was inside the transient crater and ejected upon impact

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  53. Anvil calculations by Cyran0 · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...or, if you're Wile E. Coyote...

    Inputs:
    Projectile Diameter: 1 m = 3.28 ft
    Projectile Density: 8000 kg/m3
    Impact Velocity: .10 km/s (terminal velocity)
    Impact Angle: 90 degrees

    Output:
    Crater depth: 3 ft
    Crater shape: coyote
    Sign poking out of crater: "Ouch!"

  54. Dave Barry's Simulation by 35ft_twinkie · · Score: 4, Funny

    What happens if a big asteroid hits the Earth? Judging from realistic simulations involving a sledge hammer and a common laboratory frog, we can assume it will be pretty bad.

  55. So... by farzadb82 · · Score: 1

    That's how the dinosaurs died ?!?!

  56. Simulation Points by justanyone · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The interesting features for me would be the following:
    • impact in an artic or antartic area where vaporization of large amounts of ice could possibly change global albedo (reflectiveness) as well as add water to oceans;
    • if impact is known about in advance, and predicted to occur in a populated area, would we force people to leave at gunpoint or just 'strongly urge' them to leave;
    • would an impact collapse popular cave destinations or mineshafts?
    • would detonating a large nuke at the point of impact, immediately before the impact, do anything constructive?
    just some ideas...
    1. Re:Simulation Points by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "* would detonating a large nuke at the point of impact, immediately before the impact, do anything constructive?"

      Sure it would, it would cause radioactive particles to be thrown into the mix with the other ejected matter and scattered all over the planet.

      Way to ensure everything is dead.

  57. No need to worry ... by Greedo · · Score: 4, Funny

    Your Inputs:

    Distance from Impact: 0.00 km = 0.00 miles
    Projectile Diameter: 0.05 m = 0.16 ft = 0.00 miles
    Projectile Density: 1500 kg/m3
    Impact Velocity: 0.01 km/s = 0.00 miles/s
    Impact Angle: 90 degrees
    Target Density: 1000 kg/m3
    Target Type: Competent Rock or saturated soil

    This projectile is too small to traverse the atmosphere intact; it does not form a crater on the surface.

    The energy shown below is deposited in the atmosphere.
    ... so be sure to turn on the fan.

    Energy:

    1.23 Joules = 0.00 KiloTons TNT
    The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is less than 1 month.

    Yikes! Less than once a month? You need to see a doctor, pronto!
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  58. JUST GIVE US THE CODE! (and we'll leave you alone) by wisebabo · · Score: 1

    Hey!

    If you post your code so we can tinker with it and run it on our machines maybe we'll leave your server alone (after we finish downloading it a million times).

    wannabe astro-physicist

  59. GW-BASIC huh? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    GW-BASIC... sounds like a foreign policy.

  60. Bad science alert by Glock27 · · Score: 0
    In the following results the claim is made: "450 MT equivalent". However, at a point only 20 km. the overpressure is only .628 PSI, and the sound is only 73 db. All of that is a gross underestimate, I'm sure. The lethal blast radius of a 450 MT blast is at least 20 km. (probably more).

    Check it out:

    Impact Effects Robert Marcus, H. Jay Melosh, and Gareth Collins Your Inputs: Distance from Impact: 20.00 km = 12.42 miles Projectile Diameter: 100.00 m = 328.00 ft = 0.06 miles Projectile Density: 8000 kg/m3 Impact Velocity: 30.00 km/s = 18.63 miles/s Impact Angle: 90 degrees Target Density: 1500 kg/m3 Target Type: Competent Rock or saturated soil Energy: 1.88 x 1018 Joules = 4.50 x 102 MegaTons TNT The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is 1.2 x 104years Crater Size: What does this mean? Transient Crater Diameter: 4.16 km = 2.58 miles Final Crater Diameter: 5.04 km = 3.13 miles The crater formed is a complex crater. Thermal Radiation: What does this mean? Time for maximum radiation: 0.08 seconds after impact Visible fireball radius: 2.4 km = 1.5 miles The fireball appears 27.7 times larger than the sun Thermal Exposure: 2.21 x 105 Joules/m2 Duration of Irradiation: 3 seconds Radiant flux (relative to the sun): 68.9 Seismic Effects: What does this mean? The major seismic shaking will arrive at approximately 4.0 seconds. Richter Scale Magnitude: 6.4 Mercalli Scale Intensity at a distance of 20 km: VII. Difficult to stand. Noticed by drivers of motor cars. Hanging objects quiver. Furniture broken. Damage to masonry D, including cracks. Weak chimneys broken at roof line. Fall of plaster, loose bricks, stones, tiles, cornices (also unbraced parapets and architectural ornaments). Some cracks in masonry C. Waves on ponds; water turbid with mud. Small slides and caving in along sand or gravel banks. Large bells ring. Concrete irrigation ditches damaged. VIII. Steering of motor cars affected. Damage to masonry C; partial collapse. Some damage to masonry B; none to masonry A. Fall of stucco and some masonry walls. Twisting, fall of chimneys, factory stacks, monuments, towers, elevated tanks. Frame houses moved on foundations if not bolted down; loose panel walls thrown out. Decayed piling broken off. Branches broken from trees. Changes in flow or temperature of springs and wells. Cracks in wet ground and on steep slopes. Masonry A. Good workmanship, mortar, and design; reinforced, especially laterally, and bound together using steel, concrete, etc.; designed to resist lateral forces. Masonry B. Good workmanship and mortar; reinforced, but not designed in detail to resist lateral forces. Masonry C. Ordinary workmanship and mortar; no extreme weaknesses like failing to tie in at corners, but neither reinforced nor designed against horizontal forces. Masonry D. Weak materials, such as adobe; poor mortar; low standards of workmanship; weak horizontally. Ejecta: What does this mean? The ejecta will arrive approximately 64.0 seconds after the impact. Average Ejecta Thickness: 39.0 cm = 15.36 inches Mean Fragment Diameter: 2.2 m = 7.27 ft Air Blast: What does this mean? The air blast will arrive at approximately 66.7 seconds. Peak Overpressure: 4422.6 Pa = 0.0442 bars = 0.6280 psi Max wind velocity: 9.3 m/s = 20.8 mph Sound Intensity: 73 dB (Loud as heavy traffic)

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  61. What? Text only? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Text output? TEXT output? What's the fun in that? Let me know when someone creates a movie special-effect output of this.

    1. Re:What? Text only? by neglige · · Score: 1

      Lucky you! Here is the movie you are asking for. Dunno which settings they used, though...

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  62. Pretty frequent by jmichaelg · · Score: 2, Interesting
    The planet killers don't show up very often but the little guys show up routinely. A 3 meter piece of ice has about as much energy as a small nuclear warhead.

    Just the thing to show up unexpectedly during a face-off such as the Indian/Packistani one a few years back.As it happens, a chunk of something did happen to show up at about the same time except it exploded over the mediterranean instead of the Indian/Pak border.

    To me, the immediate value of MIT Linear and JPL's NEAT program isn't in finding the one in 100 million big rocks, it's in spotting these little ones that could be mistaken for a nuke going off at the wrong time.

  63. I don't think you're going to care by Tango42 · · Score: 1

    From the same inputs:

    "Your position is in the region which collapses into the final crater.
    Your position is beneath the continuous ejecta deposit."

    So you're in a big hole, covered by rock. Are you going to care about:

    "Sound Intensity: 112 dB (May cause ear pain)"

    "IX. General panic."

  64. -1 WRONG by winwar · · Score: 3, Informative

    You believe incorrectly. There have been multiple ice ages in Earth's geologic history. During the Permian and late Proterozoic for instance. Less extensive or more poorly constrained events happened at other times (Carboniferous, Ordivician and Silurian, and earlier in the Proterozoic, etc.)

    1. Re:-1 WRONG by pilgrim23 · · Score: 1

      Really? I stand corrected then. I would be curious though. I have read extensively on the last few Ice Age cycles but had not heard of any earlier ones. A Google I go... My point here though was that orbital dynamics, polar orientation, the wobble in the spin and all the other dynamics of planets can be effected by collisions, gravitational changes (near miss of a very large object), or even gravitational dynamics of far away near misses (moon capture from Asteroid belt by Jupiter, or even collisions between objects and other planets). I would lay money Earth's orbit is not what it was 50- 100- 200 or more million years back. It is, after all, the most crazy billard game ever.

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    2. Re:-1 WRONG by Mycroft_VIII · · Score: 1

      I'm not positive but I'm pretty shure anything big enough to make a significant change in the earth's orbit is likely big enough to seriously wreck it. The earth is not solid all the way through. Hopefully someone with more experience/expertise/data would care to speak..?

      Mycroft

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  65. Who will step up? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Who's gonna write the graphical front end?

  66. What about by drgonzo59 · · Score: 1

    .. the impact of thousands of Geeks trying to access their website at the same time, can they simulate that? - That's right! I didn't think so.

  67. Lawyer Label by SEWilco · · Score: 1

    Of course, with this game: Kids, don't try this at home.

  68. In Related News... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Planning for Impact

  69. Flawed? by sploxx · · Score: 1

    This program has apparently some flaws (faster than light asteroids) but the most important thing i noted is the "probabilty of impact".

    I thought the probability that an object with the mass of *exactly* an 100m rock would be zero?!

    Discl.: This is not a troll, I just think more explanations/bounds checking would be helpful...

    1. Re:Flawed? by neglige · · Score: 1

      If I read the results correctly, the probability is not linked to the object itself, but to the energy created by the impact. So while the chance of an object being exactly 100m in diameter may be zero, the energy created by the impact can also be achieved by other diameter/speed variations. Therefore, the probability of the "energy rating" is larger than zero.

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  70. Dropping coins by cruff · · Score: 1

    Watch the Mythbusters episode (on Discovery Channel) where they test the myth about dropping a penny from the top of a high rise building. They show that at worst, you'd receive a bruise.

  71. Amazing by jrf83317 · · Score: 1

    It is amazing what a little 1 ft in diameter object traveling at the speed of light can do.

    1. Re:Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If it was travelling at the speed of light its mass would be infinite and the whole solar system would be sucked into it. The program does not seem to take account of mass increase approaching the speed of light.

  72. For your information by lone_marauder · · Score: 1
    Predicted effects of the moon falling out of orbit and striking the earth, as felt from a position 10,000 km from the point of impact

    Effects of Thermal Radiation:
    • Clothing ignites
    • Much of the body suffers third degree burns
    • Newspaper ignites
    • Plywood flames
    • Deciduous trees ignite
    • Grass ignites
    Seismic effects:
    • Richter Scale Magnitude: 14.7 (This is greater than any shaking in recorded history)
    Ejecta:
    • Little rocky ejecta reaches this site; fallout is dominated by condensed vapor from the projectile.
    Air blast:
    • The air blast will arrive at approximately 33333.3 seconds.
    • Peak Overpressure: 428781.0 Pa = 4.2878 bars = 60.8869 psi
    • Max wind velocity: 424.9 m/s = 950.6 mph
    • Sound Intensity: 113 dB (May cause ear pain)
    So now you know.
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  73. Howbout this one: by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Big hunk of metal hitting earth on a non-spongy part, I'm far away...

    Distance from Impact (in km) : 10,000
    Projectile Diameter (in meters) : 100,000
    Projectile Density (in kg/m3) : 8,000
    Impact Velocity (in km/s) : 500
    Impact Angle (in degrees) : 90
    Target Density (in kg/m3) : 8,000

    Results:
    Energy:
    5.24 x 1029 Joules = 1.25 x 10^14 MegaTons TNT
    The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is 7.9 x 10^12years
    (whew)

    Transient Crater Diameter: 1796.50 km = 1115.63 miles
    Final Crater Diameter: 4786.52 km = 2972.43 miles

    Time for maximum radiation: 32.24 seconds after impact
    Visible fireball radius: 9755.9 km = 6058.4 miles
    That's big

    The fireball appears 221.7 times larger than the sun
    That's really big

    Thermal Exposure: 1.28 x 1011 Joules/m2
    Aaa it burns...
    Duration of Irradiation: 20948 seconds
    ...for nearly 6 hrs, aaa!!
    Radiant flux (relative to the sun): 6095.0

    Clothing ignites
    Much of the body suffers third degree burns
    Gee, do you think? That's putting it mildly

    Hey, what's that big irradiating cloud over thar?
    The air blast will arrive at approximately 33333.3 seconds.
    ...9 hours later...
    Peak Overpressure: 129420.9 Pa = 1.2942 bars = 18.3778 psi
    Max wind velocity: 191.0 m/s = 427.2 mph
    Whoooosh!!

    Sound Intensity: 102 dB (May cause ear pain)
    Oww, the crispy singed remains of my friggin ears, oww!

  74. Okay, this is funny by lone_marauder · · Score: 1

    I worked up the K-T impact, experienced from a distance of 2km (the K-T object is estimated to have been 10km in diameter) to try to tweak the simulator. The results:

    Your position was inside the transient crater and ejected upon impact

    haha. All your ejecta are belong to... well, you.

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  75. quick poll by theonetruekeebler · · Score: 1
    So:

    Where did you throw your first asteroid, Redmond or Lindon?

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  76. Server Go Boom! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Apparently an asteroid hit the server that this simulation runs on. I think I am going to name this asteroid 'Slashdot.'

  77. Congratulations!!! by 2names · · Score: 1
    You just earned yourself another punch on your Dork card...

    ;)

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    1. Re:Congratulations!!! by Martin+Blank · · Score: 1

      Woo! One more and I get a free pocket protector!

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    2. Re:Congratulations!!! by gmhowell · · Score: 1

      Yeah, but turn in five cards, and you get a slide rule.

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  78. I love degenerate cases. by Atario · · Score: 3, Funny

    So, if a ball of solid iron the same size as Earth creeps up to us at 1 cm/sec, the "crater" (indentation?) will only be 45 miles across, and no one much will feel it. Also, we can expect this to happen every 800,000 years.

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    1. Re:I love degenerate cases. by rmarcus · · Score: 1

      Actually, we can expect an impact of that energy yield to occur every 800,000 years, not that specific impact.

  79. Marvin the Martian hosts.... by ToSeek · · Score: 1

    a similar site. For kicks, try sending a 1000 km rock asteroid into Mars at 20 km/sec and see what Marvin thinks of it. Then if you're not intimidated, try again with a 5000 km one.

  80. Holy Shit by 2names · · Score: 1
    "...not only improve our chances of surviving an asteroid attack..."

    What did we ever do to the Asteroids for them to attack us?!?!?

    Oh yeah, we took a big chunk of their homeland and gave it to the Meteors...

    :)

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  81. The key to interstellar travel! by clonan · · Score: 1

    I entered the following info:

    Your Inputs:
    Distance from Impact: 10.00 km = 6.21 miles
    Projectile Diameter: 1.00 m = 3.28 ft = 0.00 miles
    Projectile Density: 1000 kg/m3
    Impact Velocity: 400,000.00 km/s = 248400.00 miles/s
    Impact Angle: 90 degrees
    Target Density: 3000 kg/m3
    Target Type: Competent Rock or saturated soil

    This projectile is too small to traverse the atmosphere intact; it does not form a crater on the surface.

    The energy shown below is deposited in the atmosphere.

    Energy:
    4.19 x 1019 Joules = 1.00 x 10^4 MegaTons TNT
    The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is 1.3 x 10^5years

    see...we get hit by FTL meteors about once every 13 thousand years!

    1. Re:The key to interstellar travel! by Tin+Weasil · · Score: 1

      " The average interval between impacts of this size somewhere on Earth is 1.3 x 10^5years

      see...we get hit by FTL meteors about once every 13 thousand years!"

      Wrong. Did you even read the statement? It's talking size, not velocity!

      Now, try calculating the effects of the earth being struck by the USS Enterprise traveling at Warp 8! It kicks our ass!

  82. Probability Engine Physics That Runs on Bad Rumors by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Assume that the said asteroid is fitted with a Probability Engine that runs on Bad Rumors. This said engine could make the asteroid be in every position in space time at anytime.

    What would the calculations be then?

  83. No matter how many times you run it... by HedonismBot · · Score: 2, Funny

    it always lands on Moe's

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  84. "Seismic Effects" measurement by multi+io · · Score: 1
    The "Seismic Effects" values seem contradictory to me. See this example:
    Distance from Impact: 4000.00 km = 2484.00 miles
    [...]

    Seismic Effects:

    The major seismic shaking will arrive at approximately 800.0 seconds.
    Richter Scale Magnitude: 9.1 (This is greater than any shaking in recorded history)
    Mercalli Scale Intensity at a distance of 4000 km:

    I. Not felt. Marginal and long-period effects of large earthquakes.

    II. Felt by persons at rest, on upper floors, or favorably placed.

    Huh? Richter Scale Magnitude 9.1 and "Not Felt"? Am I missing something?

    1. Re:"Seismic Effects" measurement by xX_sticky_Xx · · Score: 1

      The Mercali scale measures localised effects, whereas the Richter scale measures the actual amount of energy released. For example, every year there is at least one 8.0 Richter scale earthquake in the world, which is a set amount of energy released from the shiftng plates. If the 8.0 happens in the Mid-Atlantic Ridge, the Mercali Scale intensity in Dallas would be "I" (roman numeral 1).

      A good reference can be found here.

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    2. Re:"Seismic Effects" measurement by multi+io · · Score: 1
      Now I get it, thanks.

      So it appears the Mercali scale would be much better suited for accurately quantifying the "stress" an earthquake puts on a particular city/inhabited region? Then why is it that one only hears about the Richter scale in the news reports about earthquakes? Would the Richter scale value in combination with the distance to the epicenter be sufficiently accurate?

    3. Re:"Seismic Effects" measurement by xX_sticky_Xx · · Score: 1

      The reason the media can't report the Mercali Scale value is that it would require a fairly extensive knowledge of the local geography, since the value can vary widely in a relatively small area. For instance, river sediment will have a higher Mercali value than nearby bedrock outcroppings. The Richter scale, on the other hand, is only a single value so it is a good general indicator of what the quake would feel like.

      So yes, Richter scale plus distance to epicenter is probably the best way to report quakes.

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  85. Where's the Kaboom? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I followed the link, and just got a lame text page.

    There was supposed to be an Earth-shattering kaboom!

  86. Target by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Where do I input "France"?

  87. This doesn't do it justice. by MickLinux · · Score: 1

    Yeah, this is a nice, really nice start. However, what would you get from an asteroid impact in the Persian Gulf? What I'd really like, would be to put in different parameters, and then see what the radial blast effects would be. And include in that, what you get in terms of thermal warming of the water, and the resulting storm? With the flirst glow of dawn, A black cloud rose up from the horizon. Inside it Adad (god of storm and rain) thunders, While Shallat and Hanish (Heralds of Adad) go in front, Moving as heralds over hill and plain. Erragal (Nergal, the god of the netherworld) tears out the posts (out of the dam); Forth comes Ninurta and causes the dikes to follow. The Anunnaki lift up the torches, Setting the land ablaze with their glare. Consternation over Adad reaches to the heavens, Turning to blackness all that had been light. The wide land was shattered like a pot! For one day the south-storm blew, Gathering speed as it blew, submerging the mountains, Overtaking the people like a battle. No one can see his fellow, Nor can the people be recognized from heaven. The gods were frightened by the deluge, Well, let's just suppose we have a 1.5 km asteroid of ice, impacting at 27 km/s, 60 degrees, into saturated land (that is, Persian gulf). So that yields 6x10^20 Joules. Now, let's guess that half of that energy goes into heating the water, and that the area of heating is over 3 times the initial crater diameter (so a diameter of 50 km, average depth 50 m). So that's 9x10^10 cubic m, or 9x10^19 ml, and the water heats about 3 degrees celsius, average. Of course, in the direct area of the blast, it heats a lot more. Come to think of it, yeah, that probably could create a pretty good sized hurricane.

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  88. Category size of object... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    * x VM Beattle
    * x Football field(s)
    * x Texas

  89. For Comparison... by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

    The diameter of the earth is 12,756 Km.

    Which means that the transient crater would be slightly more than 227 times the size of the earth.

    I think they may want to put in a little error checking into this program, since the final crater diameter would in fact be much larger than the transient. ;)

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  90. Other obsevations. by edunbar93 · · Score: 1

    With the same projectile, but an impact angle of only 1 degree, you get:

    Energy: 4.50 x 10^26 Megatons,
    Transient crater diameter: a merciful 843508.02 km, or a mere 66 times the diameter of the earth.

    The crater formed is a complex crater.

    It's also worth noting that at this density, impact angle, and speed, it would take an object only 10 Km in diameter to completely annihilate the earth.

    That is, if you don't bother to take into account that the mass of any projectile moving at the speed of light is infinite...

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  91. Orbits, impacts, & ice ages... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    A few years ago research came out that suggested the orbits of planets in our solar system was not precisely predictable in the long term due to non-linear feedbacks that multiply themselves overtime, i.e. chaos. That's not, however, due to impacts.

    If you do the math on this, the energy involved in a collision between the Earth and large impactors is not sufficient in any realistic cases (such as any impacts that have ocurred on Earth in the last couple billion years) to even induce volcanism (small scale melting of upper crustal rock caused by the heat of the impact isn't volcanism and is not counted here), let alone disrupt the planet's orbit. In a relative sense it's like tossing a grain of sand at a brick wall: We'd be awfully surprised to see the wall fall over or to have lava boil out. large impacts are also too infrequent to likely have a significant cumulative effect.

    The impacts were also much more common early in Earth's history, so we'd expect that, overall, any orbital disruption they might cause would decrease as the Earth aged.

    The last really large object that impacted the Earth, a Mars sized planetoid that hit about 4.5 billion years ago, did affect the Earth's orbit, but it also created the moon which now helps stabilize our orbit and partially shield the Earth from other impactors.

    Really large objects that could notably affect the Earth's orbit upon collision probably don't trundle through the inner solar system very often; those objects are rare, and their orbits wouldn't have remained stable over billions of years -- one of these objects would have on average hit something or found a better orbits long ago. It's also believed that Jupiter makes a valiant and selfless contribution to the cause of protecting the inner planets by sweeping up much dangerous debris before it gets much opportunity to hit us.

    As for ice ages, there is evidence for major ice ages occuring throughout the Earth's history. Some people speculate that the Proterozoic saw vast ice ages (slush ball/snow ball Earth hypothesese), and some other very major ices ages affected the Earth during the Paleozoic. We hear more about the current ice age since it's a whole lot easier to study and more immediately relevant to our daily lives.

    NOTE: if you're interested in geology and past climate, it's worth studying the factors involved in the hypothesized "snowball Earth" cold spells and the changes that are believed to have thawed the Earth at the end of those episodes.

    Finally, it's worthwhile to remember that "everything is more complicated than most people think."

  92. Harness them as weapons! by Stuntmonkey · · Score: 1

    Now I may just be an impulsively warlike imperialist American pig, but this got me to thinking...

    Wouldn't asteroids make great weapons? Let's say we develop the capability to divert asteroids from hitting Earth. Everyone seems to want this nowadays. Proposed schemes, for example, include nudging them with a long-burn rocket while still in orbit.

    This same technology could also be used to nudge an asteroid into a collision course with Earth! In particular, your least favorite part of it. Use this program to select the asteroid properties that will cause the desired damage profile, and then use our NEO tracking info to select an appropriate asteroid that is close to a collision course anyway. Strap a rocket onto it and guide it in!

  93. Dead Badger by CaptainPinko · · Score: 1

    The dead badger doesn't crash... it's running Linux!

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  94. Just got posted to yahoo by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you think a /.ing is bad, imagine a yahooing

  95. Integrate with Multimap? by 6Yankee · · Score: 1

    I want to know just how big of a rock can drop on my office overnight without destroying me in my house.

    If I could enter two sets of lat/long co-ordinates, select how much damage I'm prepared to take, and get a blast zone overlaid onto a map, that would be cool.