SPAM! First it was a food, then a joke, then it became an irritation now, it claimed its first victim. Today a self-confessed geek, John Smith, rampaged through an office of an advertising known to use SPAM killing many of its worker and injuring many more. Mr Smith bludgeoned the worker to death using a PDA and a Hard Disk shouting obscenities about bandwidth hogging, hard disk swamping. The police had to resort to gunning him down as he refused to drop his weapons. It was later found that the Hard Disk had contained Windows 95 and over a million e-mails advertising "anti-spam software" </sarcasm></future possible>
As I am sure you know, the only reason NASA ever use "older" tech is because they know the bugs in those systems, they know what can go wrong and therefore can work aroudn it. Dependability and reliablity is more important than the MHz or RAM. So quite why they are using anything to do with teh Net is beyond me, could you imagine it... "Houston, we have a problem... we can't get Pron, could you check the connetcion please!"
Ah, a collection of "purest green", where upon they can craft it into a most enviable brooch which they may wear and we will all be amazed by its glory............ or not.
I tend to agree... in part, the only thing I could actually care about the SuperBowl was the ad's! I wanna see Hulk in his CG glory, I wanna see NEo and posse go in slow mo whilst kicking butt, I wanna see effects, CG, tech... now that is geekness.
I would prefer, I admit, articles on how this was done, uses of CG tech and other geekyness (is that a word?) but I am a lowly Scotsman, and this is the almighty/. And as such we can only stand in amazement at its glory and its undeniable ability to suck every minute that I am supposed to be working.
Don't get me wrong dpt I agree... in principal. Guess I'm just a not as forward as you are with my opinions in such things.
Let me take a few of your points, being from somewhere that is (unfortunately) pat of the EU and look at them for just a second...
> I wonder if this will lead to more socially acceptable games being produced (i.e. ones which
> do not glorify violence ?) it is well known that the Europeans have more sophisticated tastes
> than us Americans. Perhaps this will lead to the death of the gory 1st person shoot-em-ups
> like Quake and Doom (widely believed to be responsible for the Columbine tragedy).
Where do I begin with this, firstly I agree certain games can be seen to glorify and edify violence as being a normal, but really we must take a realistic look a this. I have been playing Doom and such "violent" games for many years, I have not picked up a gun and slaughtered my work colleagues because it is not video games ALONE that can do this, but rather a series of social, political and environmental issues which lead to people killing other people. Lastly on this point the Columbine tragedy was linked to anything the norm did not like, metal music, games, videos, TV and the like.
> Historically computer games have been designed to appeal to the American market, and so
> they have been basically violent, gory, and utterly tasteless. Almost all American PC games
> involve violence of one form or another. From Doom to Quake, to Unreal, it seems the
> American consumer wants only to kill and kill again. (albeit in simulated form).
Few points, the big sellers recently, Tomb Raider, Grand Theft Auto were actually European made and designed games... well, as far I can recall from the mass of magazines I read. Funny, that comment about American games and violence, don't most American films involve violence in one form, don't you guys have gun laws which have been "proven" (since that's the choice word of the day) to be a bad thing.
> With the news that Europe will soon be the largest market for games, this state of affairs may
> soon change.
Don't you believe it! The EU market for MMPROG's like Neocron, Ultima, Quake, Unreal and such is MASSIVE, we in the EU love our "violence" as much as anyone, but we use instead (in the majority, as there are always those that do take it too far and may unfortunately become addicted) use it as a release, a way of coping with pent up frustrations.
> Europeans on the whole have a well adjusted attitide toward violence and sex. They tend to
> abhorr the former and be tolerant of the latter. It is common on European network TV to see
> breasts, nipples, even sometimes pubic hair but programmes containing violence are subject to
> strict censorship rules.
Errr... not in the UK anyway!
> How can games like Quake III which teaches kids how to slaughter their schoolfriends and
> promotes a satanistic agenda possibly be acceptable ? It doesn't make any sense to me - You
> don't have to be a Christian to see the dangers of Satanism. Let us know what you think about
> this important issue.
As a Christian, and having been one for a good number of years, don't use my religion as a launching board for your fears (that's George W Bush's job the idiot! Sorry off topic) I have a good friend who is a Satanist, he is a calm and friendly person, the dangers of Satanism are real, but not in the way you see them. You seem to think violence is wrong but sex on TV is ok, the ways of Lucifer are many and crafty, you never know he could be lurking anyway, tell you what... ban video games, ban films, ban TV, ban music, ban everything until everything is safe and still there will be murders and rapes and other horrible crimes of tragedy and pain. It is human nature and nurture that needs to change, when that happens other things will improve but not until we get a grip and start looking within ourselves and stop blaming others for our problems.
I hope I have not offended anyone, if I have, then I am sorry. I mean only to get my view across.
Remember - "Your never alone with a clone!" (from some graffiti)
Cloned exotic dancers Vs cloned George W Bush's... imagine it people, rank after rank of clone's!!! Hold it... isn't that the majority of US (and UK) politicians anyway;-) Then imagine all the failures becoming the most hated scourge of humanity... lawyers!!
I personally have not had this problem but I do know that (Ph)ony have released there own "CD" which has a hidden area of the CD which corrupts the data flow when used in a PC or Mac and since a lot of modern CD players use Computer components this track disrupts playing on them. The worst thing I have found out is that we have no real come back on this except to return the product to them. In the UK (where I am) this has caused much annoyance especially since people who buy CD's like myself and play them in their PC's can't without using legacy hardware, or using some nifty wee tricks with markers and the like.
On a personal note I think these big companies should re-think their strategy on CD and protection, cheaper would obviously be better in my eyes or the ability to create "personal" CD's made from tracks on databases or something! Anyway, that's my experience not that says much;-)
I admit that I have a certain love for that piece of metal which projects pieces of metal at high velocity, the problem we have here (Well, over in the US as I am in Scotland) is that (and I am sure this has been said man times already - to many posts!) guns are objects. They are not evil or good, they have no intrinsic ability to recognise and differentiate between who they are being pointed at. A gun cannot say to its self, "Oh, I am in the arms of a young child who is playing with me, I had better not blow their head off!"
People, us, you and me are the only ones who have the choice of wither we pull that trigger and how we use the gun in the first place. I have no problem with guns, I have a problem when people point a gun (for ANY reason) at anything that is alive. What we have hear is the same problem we have had for millennium. Humans have an extreme tendency towards violence and hence when we hold in our hands an item which can kill someone we are angry with in a second then the rage takes over, the pain and agony flood over out common sense. We kill, we pull that trigger and BLAM, the bullet ends that other person's life.
The truth, the only inescapable truth guns may kill but they are not the ones who are in control, we are, and as such it only ourselves that we have to blame.
So should we control guns? Yes, the same way we that we control bombs, landlines, and other weapons of mass destruction? Funny though I don't think Bush would be want to wage a war on this subject? Not a good political move.
Just some thoughts. No insult or offence attended.
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... if they do make a movie for Devil May Cry... wont that be the first time in history when the movie lasts longer than the game itself.
SPAM! First it was a food, then a joke, then it became an irritation now, it claimed its first victim. Today a self-confessed geek, John Smith, rampaged through an office of an advertising known to use SPAM killing many of its worker and injuring many more. Mr Smith bludgeoned the worker to death using a PDA and a Hard Disk shouting obscenities about bandwidth hogging, hard disk swamping. The police had to resort to gunning him down as he refused to drop his weapons. It was later found that the Hard Disk had contained Windows 95 and over a million e-mails advertising "anti-spam software"
</sarcasm></future possible>
"This is called a mutation"
;)
I'm sorry but I need to say this... What your saying is that what we could have here is the x-gene!
Sorry... I'm weak... just too weak...
I appolgise for the bad joke.
Think about it, the goths could at last be happy (if that is possible), they can wear uber-black clothing! I know I would want some of it. ;-)
As I am sure you know, the only reason NASA ever use "older" tech is because they know the bugs in those systems, they know what can go wrong and therefore can work aroudn it. Dependability and reliablity is more important than the MHz or RAM. So quite why they are using anything to do with teh Net is beyond me, could you imagine it... "Houston, we have a problem... we can't get Pron, could you check the connetcion please!"
Ah, a collection of "purest green", where upon they can craft it into a most enviable brooch which they may wear and we will all be amazed by its glory... ... ... ... or not.
I tend to agree... in part, the only thing I could actually care about the SuperBowl was the ad's! I wanna see Hulk in his CG glory, I wanna see NEo and posse go in slow mo whilst kicking butt, I wanna see effects, CG, tech... now that is geekness.
/. And as such we can only stand in amazement at its glory and its undeniable ability to suck every minute that I am supposed to be working.
I would prefer, I admit, articles on how this was done, uses of CG tech and other geekyness (is that a word?) but I am a lowly Scotsman, and this is the almighty
Don't get me wrong dpt I agree... in principal. Guess I'm just a not as forward as you are with my opinions in such things.
The only thing would be if Steve Jobs was president that would mean Bil Gates would have to be leader of the opposition.
How about Gary Gygax being Leader of the House (or whatever it is called, being from UK not too sure).
I have done a little digging and found the following link which gives a "complete" Reboot show listing:
here
I agree Reboot was excellent and its a shame I never got to see more than two series over here either.
Let me take a few of your points, being from somewhere that is (unfortunately) pat of the EU and look at them for just a second...
> I wonder if this will lead to more socially acceptable games being produced (i.e. ones which
> do not glorify violence ?) it is well known that the Europeans have more sophisticated tastes
> than us Americans. Perhaps this will lead to the death of the gory 1st person shoot-em-ups
> like Quake and Doom (widely believed to be responsible for the Columbine tragedy).
Where do I begin with this, firstly I agree certain games can be seen to glorify and edify violence as being a normal, but really we must take a realistic look a this. I have been playing Doom and such "violent" games for many years, I have not picked up a gun and slaughtered my work colleagues because it is not video games ALONE that can do this, but rather a series of social, political and environmental issues which lead to people killing other people. Lastly on this point the Columbine tragedy was linked to anything the norm did not like, metal music, games, videos, TV and the like.
> Historically computer games have been designed to appeal to the American market, and so
> they have been basically violent, gory, and utterly tasteless. Almost all American PC games
> involve violence of one form or another. From Doom to Quake, to Unreal, it seems the
> American consumer wants only to kill and kill again. (albeit in simulated form).
Few points, the big sellers recently, Tomb Raider, Grand Theft Auto were actually European made and designed games... well, as far I can recall from the mass of magazines I read. Funny, that comment about American games and violence, don't most American films involve violence in one form, don't you guys have gun laws which have been "proven" (since that's the choice word of the day) to be a bad thing.
> With the news that Europe will soon be the largest market for games, this state of affairs may
> soon change.
Don't you believe it! The EU market for MMPROG's like Neocron, Ultima, Quake, Unreal and such is MASSIVE, we in the EU love our "violence" as much as anyone, but we use instead (in the majority, as there are always those that do take it too far and may unfortunately become addicted) use it as a release, a way of coping with pent up frustrations.
> Europeans on the whole have a well adjusted attitide toward violence and sex. They tend to
> abhorr the former and be tolerant of the latter. It is common on European network TV to see
> breasts, nipples, even sometimes pubic hair but programmes containing violence are subject to
> strict censorship rules.
Errr... not in the UK anyway!
> How can games like Quake III which teaches kids how to slaughter their schoolfriends and
> promotes a satanistic agenda possibly be acceptable ? It doesn't make any sense to me - You
> don't have to be a Christian to see the dangers of Satanism. Let us know what you think about
> this important issue.
As a Christian, and having been one for a good number of years, don't use my religion as a launching board for your fears (that's George W Bush's job the idiot! Sorry off topic) I have a good friend who is a Satanist, he is a calm and friendly person, the dangers of Satanism are real, but not in the way you see them. You seem to think violence is wrong but sex on TV is ok, the ways of Lucifer are many and crafty, you never know he could be lurking anyway, tell you what... ban video games, ban films, ban TV, ban music, ban everything until everything is safe and still there will be murders and rapes and other horrible crimes of tragedy and pain. It is human nature and nurture that needs to change, when that happens other things will improve but not until we get a grip and start looking within ourselves and stop blaming others for our problems.
I hope I have not offended anyone, if I have, then I am sorry. I mean only to get my view across.
Remember - "Your never alone with a clone!" (from some graffiti)
;-) Then imagine all the failures becoming the most hated scourge of humanity... lawyers!!
Cloned exotic dancers Vs cloned George W Bush's... imagine it people, rank after rank of clone's!!! Hold it... isn't that the majority of US (and UK) politicians anyway
I personally have not had this problem but I do know that (Ph)ony have released there own "CD" which has a hidden area of the CD which corrupts the data flow when used in a PC or Mac and since a lot of modern CD players use Computer components this track disrupts playing on them. The worst thing I have found out is that we have no real come back on this except to return the product to them. In the UK (where I am) this has caused much annoyance especially since people who buy CD's like myself and play them in their PC's can't without using legacy hardware, or using some nifty wee tricks with markers and the like. On a personal note I think these big companies should re-think their strategy on CD and protection, cheaper would obviously be better in my eyes or the ability to create "personal" CD's made from tracks on databases or something! Anyway, that's my experience not that says much ;-)
I admit that I have a certain love for that piece of metal which projects pieces of metal at high velocity, the problem we have here (Well, over in the US as I am in Scotland) is that (and I am sure this has been said man times already - to many posts!) guns are objects. They are not evil or good, they have no intrinsic ability to recognise and differentiate between who they are being pointed at. A gun cannot say to its self, "Oh, I am in the arms of a young child who is playing with me, I had better not blow their head off!" People, us, you and me are the only ones who have the choice of wither we pull that trigger and how we use the gun in the first place. I have no problem with guns, I have a problem when people point a gun (for ANY reason) at anything that is alive. What we have hear is the same problem we have had for millennium. Humans have an extreme tendency towards violence and hence when we hold in our hands an item which can kill someone we are angry with in a second then the rage takes over, the pain and agony flood over out common sense. We kill, we pull that trigger and BLAM, the bullet ends that other person's life. The truth, the only inescapable truth guns may kill but they are not the ones who are in control, we are, and as such it only ourselves that we have to blame. So should we control guns? Yes, the same way we that we control bombs, landlines, and other weapons of mass destruction? Funny though I don't think Bush would be want to wage a war on this subject? Not a good political move. Just some thoughts. No insult or offence attended.