osCommerce is extremely stable and fully featured. Plus is has a huge support following as well as excellent programmers adding modules and contributions everyday.
osCommerce is a good solution for a web store front...it doesn't pretend to be anything else. Maybe you were using an earlier version or maybe you don't know what you are doing, but osCommerce can be very successfully implemented.
"Contrasting the Open Source and Free Software definitions, one finds that all Free Software is Open Source, but as administered by the Free Software Foundation, not all Open Source is Free Software."
I have not yet read the entire article, but this one statement is misleading unless you understand the difference between "free software" and "Free Software". All free software is not open source. However, all "Free Software" is open source. A matter of symantics that is not particularly well defined in the quoted paragraph. The distinction in regard to the capitalization of one and not the other is not clearly defined, which makes the statement seem false when it is actually true. Confused Yet?
Personally, I think the GPL is very clear about its intentions and use. The language is somewhere between normal speak and lawyer speak, which should be sufficient for anyone willing to actually read and understand the license. It is much clearer than your average insurance policy or any legal document written by lawyers. I think the essence of the problem is that most people don't understand the philosophy or the technical parts. Source code? Yeah, all of us/.ers know what it is but 99% of the population's eyes will glaze over when you mention it.
"...will shrink it even further, but after that we're facing the physical limits."
That would be the KNOWN physical limits eh? There will always be something we don't know.
Yeah, thats right. I've been bombarded by every student loan consolidator, window installer, mortgage refinancer and every other tele-scumbag on earth since I signed up. I call a day as opposed to only one a week before signing up. Its a scam.
Your argument is fairly convincing. The doubters would argue with you about the cost of in-house development, however if they had experienced any of the royal screwing which happens when you outsource your app development, they would know that $10,000 isn't unusual for bug fixes and it isn't good business.
Who would pay that much? The company who got caught with its pants down when some well meaning, but inexperienced/ignorant project manager signs off on it, putting enhancements and bug fixes into the realm of black mail. Of course there are exceptions to this, but its more common than some people would think.
I see a foreshadowing of the black mail tactics with some companies who sell open source services also. They offer free applications and tools, but if you want the super-duper version, you'll pay and pay well. Sure you can change it all you want, but you'll pay well for support if you can't manage it in-house. Its like to whole question of what language to use...one size doesn't fit all. Maybe Joe Tool & Die's business doesn't require a super custom app to get things done. Some businesses need the occasional taxi ride and some need the concord daily...it just depends. Sometimes the most important business process can't be automated or programmed. The magic key to each businesses success is different and it could simply be something like the friendly atmosphere or something not quite physical enough to pinpoint which sets a company apart from the rest...it doesn't have to be all about the software people. I'll stop there to let you all catch your breath after that last assertion...
I got a Bachelors in Mech. Engineering (1998) from the University of Toledo and when I was in school, my profs gave out PLENTY of C's. However if they hadn't curved the grades, everyone would have failed...their standards were so high no one could pass the test. I regularly got a 40% which turned out to be the highest grade in the class and received an A after the curve.
Grading schemes are crazy. Half the time the prof who didn't speak much English, would put things on the test which no one even heard of...I can't tell you how many times we all wanted to blow up the Engineering building after exams!
This is great you guys. Keep up the discouraging articles and reports all over the web and NO ONE new will try to get into IT. The remaining few of us will command the most outrageous salaries ever!!
1) Bring in lots of suckers out for the $$
2) Purge them with the bad economy
3) Post stuff all over the web about how terrible the IT field is so no one new enters.
The agreement isn't with the FAA. The agreement is with the seller. I'm pretty sure that this company is not a rep for the FAA. This is simply a CYA move and nothing more. It the buyer flies it and the FAA comes down on them, it still has nothing to do with the seller or any agreement between the buyer and seller.
I don't see why they have to agree not to fly it. Why not just sign an agreement that if you kill yourself or others, the seller is not responsible? Makes more sense to me. What idiot would by a personal flying machine for > a million and agree not to use it?
Too true. I distinctly remember throwing each one up in the air, hitting it as hard as I could with a wiffle-ball bat, watching as it hit our cement basement wall and exploding into peices, and then putting them back together again with different parts on each one. Think Darth Vader head, Princess Leia body, C3PO legs and Luke Skywalker arms.
I'm not completely sure, but maybe I had some issues as a child
*Disclaimer* No I did not read the article and don't care to at this point. I'm simply going to rant based on the premise that all source should be open and the opinion that the customer should always get the source if they pay for the software. *End Disclaimer*
Contrary to popular Slashdot opinion, not everything can be labelled black or white. Should all source code be open? What are you a freakin imbecille? Hey, lets just make programming a worthless proposition by removing all value from it while we're at it!
If I spend ridiculous amounts of time learning to program and analyzing a particular business problem in order to produce quality software which adds real business value and empowers my customers to provide their services/product in a more effective and efficient way, then why should I willy nilly give them or anyone else the source to this code? I have employees, a wife and 4 kids to support, thank you very much.
I'm kind of amazed at the fact that I even have to explain this to anyone. There must be a lot of idiots in the world. Why aren't you demanding that DaimlerChrysler release all of their enginering documents and prototype information to you? After all, you bought the freakin car right?! Maybe less people would die in car accidents if YOU had access to the design and you could analyze it in your spare time right? You must be the same guy feverishly duct taping feathers on pigs.
Look man, the only people who are going to look at this code are competitors and people looking to get something of value for nothing. Yes, there are some cases where the customer might find value in reviewing the code and/or changing it. In this case, they should PAY for that priviledge and pay well. God knows all it takes is one pimply tech to copy all the code and put it on the internet for fun. At this point, my Company's hard work has been for nothing and this could lead to real people losing income and the ability to support their families. Source has value, just like the personal information that Slashdotters cry about so much. The only difference between the two is that YOU are the only one who places value on your personal information. In the case of Source Code, a whole Company of people places value on it and depends on it to keep them in business.
If you can't see why some source should be closed and remain the property of the person/company that put so much work into it then I suggest you give everything away that you consider to have value and go your merry little way!
"Does anyone really think that this will change the alleged minds of doubters?"
Who is alleging that these people have minds and what proof do they have! I think NASA should pay someone $15k to prove whether or not these people actually have minds.
Perhaps scientists could use cutting edge technology and the world's most powerful microscope to prove whether or not these people's minds exist.
Look, I'm just as much geek hacker as the rest of you here. Linux is great in that it is powerful and free (yes, as in beer). But to the current windows user base, linux is hard.
Examples:
Now, how do I start that program now that I installed it?
I have to edit part of what file to make that work? Huh?
I wonder what software I could install from the CD and what it does...lets see there is
4Suite-0.11-2.i386.rpm
Canna-3.5b2-50.i386.rpm
Canna-libs-3.5b2-50.i386.rpm
FreeWnn-1.11-19.i386.rpm
FreeWnn-common-1.11-19.i386.rpm
GConf-1.0.4-3.i386.rpm
ImageMagick-5.3.8-3.i386.rpm
XtrmelyCnfsingNme-4.5.3.4.45.56.4.3.3.rmp
etc...
400 Hours trying to make wine work
Not knowing what to do with attachments from friends in MS format
Any distro that can remove some of these confusing things and make it super easy for ANYONE, not just us geeks, will have the ultimate success on the desktop or anywhere else for that matter. Even some IT people don't want to have to struggle to do things that should be simple. The fact is that easy things should be easy...maybe most users don't need 700 ways to do the same thing. Linux has how many text editors and I still can't find one that I like. Yes, I take pride in the fact that I can hack the crap out of a linux box and make it do what I want and even put it to use in critical business applications, but most people couldn't give a rat's ass about that.
They claim to have various audio cds and tapes which put you in that state of mind just between waking and sleep where people often hallucinate and have other experiences. Many people claim to have "Out of Body Experiences" while using the tapes. The MI has a whole program which you can go through by yourself at home or at their facility.
The founder, Robert Monroe, wrote several books about his experiences. Summing it all up, he basically said that he could leave his body and visit the various "rings" of conscienceness that surround the earth. It is actually very interesting because the things that he reports in the book actually do a lot to explain various things like ghosts(people who are so addicted to the earth "experience" that they won't leave or can't recognize that they are dead) and other things like that.
All taken with a grain of salt of course, but it is very interesting stuff.
I use notepad...but I've only been hacking for 4 months now in perl, so what do I know anyway?
I just started learning Perl a two months ago...
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and I love it. I just hope that Perl6 isn't going to be drastically different or I'll practically be starting from scratch.
Yes, Its true that you should be able to apply the concepts and learn any language, but to be fluent you must memorize a certain amount of the language's syntax. Having to go back to whatever material you learned from in order to get the syntax/function/whatever you want is a real PIA.
If you owned a consulting business which provided various services (application development, database design/admin, systems admin, help desk, web dev etc...) would you provide the source code to the community for the applications your company developed and if so, how could this help/hurt your business?
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osCommerce is extremely stable and fully featured. Plus is has a huge support following as well as excellent programmers adding modules and contributions everyday.
osCommerce is a good solution for a web store front...it doesn't pretend to be anything else. Maybe you were using an earlier version or maybe you don't know what you are doing, but osCommerce can be very successfully implemented.
From the article...emphasis is mine.
/.ers know what it is but 99% of the population's eyes will glaze over when you mention it.
"Contrasting the Open Source and Free Software definitions, one finds that all Free Software is Open Source, but as administered by the Free Software Foundation, not all Open Source is Free Software."
I have not yet read the entire article, but this one statement is misleading unless you understand the difference between "free software" and "Free Software". All free software is not open source. However, all "Free Software" is open source. A matter of symantics that is not particularly well defined in the quoted paragraph. The distinction in regard to the capitalization of one and not the other is not clearly defined, which makes the statement seem false when it is actually true. Confused Yet?
Personally, I think the GPL is very clear about its intentions and use. The language is somewhere between normal speak and lawyer speak, which should be sufficient for anyone willing to actually read and understand the license. It is much clearer than your average insurance policy or any legal document written by lawyers. I think the essence of the problem is that most people don't understand the philosophy or the technical parts. Source code? Yeah, all of us
"...will shrink it even further, but after that we're facing the physical limits." That would be the KNOWN physical limits eh? There will always be something we don't know.
Yeah, thats right. I've been bombarded by every student loan consolidator, window installer, mortgage refinancer and every other tele-scumbag on earth since I signed up. I call a day as opposed to only one a week before signing up. Its a scam.
Who would pay that much? The company who got caught with its pants down when some well meaning, but inexperienced/ignorant project manager signs off on it, putting enhancements and bug fixes into the realm of black mail. Of course there are exceptions to this, but its more common than some people would think.
I see a foreshadowing of the black mail tactics with some companies who sell open source services also. They offer free applications and tools, but if you want the super-duper version, you'll pay and pay well. Sure you can change it all you want, but you'll pay well for support if you can't manage it in-house. Its like to whole question of what language to use...one size doesn't fit all. Maybe Joe Tool & Die's business doesn't require a super custom app to get things done. Some businesses need the occasional taxi ride and some need the concord daily...it just depends. Sometimes the most important business process can't be automated or programmed. The magic key to each businesses success is different and it could simply be something like the friendly atmosphere or something not quite physical enough to pinpoint which sets a company apart from the rest...it doesn't have to be all about the software people. I'll stop there to let you all catch your breath after that last assertion...
If you listen real close you can hear me whistle during the pause between songs.....shhhhh....THERE IT IS! THATS ME!!! WOOHOO!
Grading schemes are crazy. Half the time the prof who didn't speak much English, would put things on the test which no one even heard of...I can't tell you how many times we all wanted to blow up the Engineering building after exams!
1) Bring in lots of suckers out for the $$
2) Purge them with the bad economy
3) Post stuff all over the web about how terrible the IT field is so no one new enters.
4) Profit!!!!
The agreement isn't with the FAA. The agreement is with the seller. I'm pretty sure that this company is not a rep for the FAA. This is simply a CYA move and nothing more. It the buyer flies it and the FAA comes down on them, it still has nothing to do with the seller or any agreement between the buyer and seller.
I don't see why they have to agree not to fly it. Why not just sign an agreement that if you kill yourself or others, the seller is not responsible? Makes more sense to me. What idiot would by a personal flying machine for > a million and agree not to use it?
I'm not completely sure, but maybe I had some issues as a child
*Disclaimer* No I did not read the article and don't care to at this point. I'm simply going to rant based on the premise that all source should be open and the opinion that the customer should always get the source if they pay for the software. *End Disclaimer*
Contrary to popular Slashdot opinion, not everything can be labelled black or white. Should all source code be open? What are you a freakin imbecille? Hey, lets just make programming a worthless proposition by removing all value from it while we're at it!
If I spend ridiculous amounts of time learning to program and analyzing a particular business problem in order to produce quality software which adds real business value and empowers my customers to provide their services/product in a more effective and efficient way, then why should I willy nilly give them or anyone else the source to this code? I have employees, a wife and 4 kids to support, thank you very much.
I'm kind of amazed at the fact that I even have to explain this to anyone. There must be a lot of idiots in the world. Why aren't you demanding that DaimlerChrysler release all of their enginering documents and prototype information to you? After all, you bought the freakin car right?! Maybe less people would die in car accidents if YOU had access to the design and you could analyze it in your spare time right? You must be the same guy feverishly duct taping feathers on pigs.
Look man, the only people who are going to look at this code are competitors and people looking to get something of value for nothing. Yes, there are some cases where the customer might find value in reviewing the code and/or changing it. In this case, they should PAY for that priviledge and pay well. God knows all it takes is one pimply tech to copy all the code and put it on the internet for fun. At this point, my Company's hard work has been for nothing and this could lead to real people losing income and the ability to support their families. Source has value, just like the personal information that Slashdotters cry about so much. The only difference between the two is that YOU are the only one who places value on your personal information. In the case of Source Code, a whole Company of people places value on it and depends on it to keep them in business.
If you can't see why some source should be closed and remain the property of the person/company that put so much work into it then I suggest you give everything away that you consider to have value and go your merry little way!
Who is alleging that these people have minds and what proof do they have! I think NASA should pay someone $15k to prove whether or not these people actually have minds.
Perhaps scientists could use cutting edge technology and the world's most powerful microscope to prove whether or not these people's minds exist.
Slashdot readers want to know!
Examples:
Any distro that can remove some of these confusing things and make it super easy for ANYONE, not just us geeks, will have the ultimate success on the desktop or anywhere else for that matter. Even some IT people don't want to have to struggle to do things that should be simple. The fact is that easy things should be easy...maybe most users don't need 700 ways to do the same thing. Linux has how many text editors and I still can't find one that I like. Yes, I take pride in the fact that I can hack the crap out of a linux box and make it do what I want and even put it to use in critical business applications, but most people couldn't give a rat's ass about that.
Is it true that once you've had Green, you never go back? OK, it doesn't rhyme, but you know what I'm talkin 'bout!
The reminds me of The Monroe Institute.
They claim to have various audio cds and tapes which put you in that state of mind just between waking and sleep where people often hallucinate and have other experiences. Many people claim to have "Out of Body Experiences" while using the tapes. The MI has a whole program which you can go through by yourself at home or at their facility.
The founder, Robert Monroe, wrote several books about his experiences. Summing it all up, he basically said that he could leave his body and visit the various "rings" of conscienceness that surround the earth. It is actually very interesting because the things that he reports in the book actually do a lot to explain various things like ghosts(people who are so addicted to the earth "experience" that they won't leave or can't recognize that they are dead) and other things like that.
All taken with a grain of salt of course, but it is very interesting stuff.
I use notepad...but I've only been hacking for 4 months now in perl, so what do I know anyway?
and I love it. I just hope that Perl6 isn't going to be drastically different or I'll practically be starting from scratch.
Yes, Its true that you should be able to apply the concepts and learn any language, but to be fluent you must memorize a certain amount of the language's syntax. Having to go back to whatever material you learned from in order to get the syntax/function/whatever you want is a real PIA.
If you owned a consulting business which provided various services (application development, database design/admin, systems admin, help desk, web dev etc...) would you provide the source code to the community for the applications your company developed and if so, how could this help/hurt your business?