Let me guess... if we don't "cease the bullshit", China will do a Tibet on us when it grows powerful..?
I wish it would feel natural to add a ":-)" here...
That said, foreign policy is as brutal, selfish and dishonest in most countries, including democracies (foreigners don't have the right to vote "at home"). The rest of the world really hopes that China will get its act together on e.g. human rights.
(P S -- to have as your only argument that others' politics might be criticized is a bit weak.)
You are wrong, 1984 started much before 24 years ago... and will be relevant much longer than 24 years more.
That said, it will be really cool when online cameras become legion. personal crime like robberies and rape will have to be reinvented by criminals and psychopaths.
You should respect the religious because we are all human and have weaknesses to be ashamed of.
Hate the religion, not the religious -- those unfortunate which either have mental problems or was indoctrinated at an early age. Be happy it wasn't you.
You keep claiming that mod_perl is fragile. That hasn't been mine (and others) experience. Could you give references to support your claims or are you just trolling?
I use PHP because it is what I got into and I have not yet had the time and/or drive to really try anything else. PHP is so available and that is its real strength. It's biggest problem is those lazy folks who are still running 4.2.x or some branch that is or is to be discontinued very soon here. As well there are some known exploits and issues in the older branches.
PHP's advantage is an easy learning curve, so it is easy to pickup (no cheap jokes about fat women, please). Larry Wall described that as [PHP] takes the worse-is-better approach to dazzling new depths.
With that kind of raison d'être it shouldn't be surprising it is hard to get users to embrace new versions.
There is going to be a painful transition period while the former third world achieves what they have not had for so long.
Blame the old status-quo on imperialism, blame it on racism, blame it on whatever you want. Regardless, the world is becoming an increasingly level playing field - finally.
"Blame"? How about saying "thank you, West!"? No part of the world had it good before the west invented industrialization. Before, everyone had e.g. 20-30% child mortality, horrible diseases, lack of resources to educate people and hunger from periodical bad harvests.
The best part is that in the end, the sh.tholes neighbors (Pakistan and Bangladesh) will have to copy the Indian recipe and become better places. It will be their only chance to keep the population happy.
And all large social/industrial changes will get people caught in the middle; it is a fact of life. This time, it happens to be lots of us westerners. Let us just hope that the advances for humanity won't be squandered on wars or some other waste.
Frankly, I don't really buy it. I'd guess that the high child mortality (typically 20-30%, varying quite a bit) was a large driving factor since at least farming (population density increased so the disease pressure should have changed a lot).
We are changed our tools, while our tools are changing us. Granted, our tools are changing at a much faster rate...
For now. In just a few generations, humanity will probably be choosing genes for kids as SOP. (Already in the next generation, smart drugs will probably be quite common.)
If we are DNA-based at all in a hundred years. Check e.g. "Mind Children" by Moravec.
All this, like racism, is just history. It won't be relevant soon.
At least here in my local Sweden, medical people doesn't need to study biology before becoming doctors.
But the biology departments here have lots more students than there are jobs for biologists. It is something people study out of interest -- more or less like music. (I did some (bio)chemistry out of interest and it was not at all as popular as biology.)
The difference, I'd guess, is that it is more expensive to study in the US? Unless you're wealthy, it is harder to study a couple of years just from love of a subject?
Doesn't this architecture looks suitable for the Connection Machine languages? They had something similar in CM-5, I think? (Anyone even older than me around?)
You have totally missed the point again and continue to put words in my mouth. I am not "defending Hamas" I am putting forward FACTS that are not often heard in the West.
You wrote from the beginning: [Western leaders] actively seek to destroy [democracy] [...] The odd thing is that Hamas has kept it's word and has not used suicide bombers for over 3 years.
My first point out that Hamas were still doing terrorism (rocket artillery targeting civilians) so not using suicide bombers is irrelevant. Active terrorists have problems to be accepted -- and Hamas isn't accepted by EU either.
Your "answer" was to compare unaimed rockets against civilians with someone else using rockets against militants that target civilians -- both totally irrelevant and an apples/oranges cmparision. Now you again claim that was relevant?!
My second point was that Hamas used extreme nazi-inspired racism in their propaganda. I pointed out that an established democracy was isolated for at least 100 times less than Hamas, which you just joked about (you might just be unaware; google for e.g. diplomatic isolation haider austria). The Austria example show that there is no democracy problem in isolating democracies.
To be totally clear:
Either of those two points is enough to motivate that Hamas is isolated internationally. Both are obvious points and you have failed to address them twice now, so I am out of here. You're a troll or a propaganda machine -- both are wasted time.
Btw, your "unknown facts" sound just like more left wing Chomskyism, which seem as crazy as the US right wing.
(And I agree -- Hamas will come in from the cold in five seconds if they are needed... think Pakistan in 2001. Realpolitik is the guiding principle for every country and they all lie about it. If there is no money or other interests involved, democracies are usually quite principled.)
Israel regularly fire hellfire missles into the most densley populated area on earth
First, the discussion was Hamas' behaviour -- which you defended because they haven't done one specific type of terrorism for a while. (The reason for that is debated; the Israelis seems to claim it is their wall, based on some interview with Haniya(?) in Egypt.)
So I pointed out that wasn't a serious argument -- so now you "argue" that Hamas isn't doing terrorism by changing the subject and claiming someone else isn't perfect!! As intellectually dishonest as your first "argument".
(Your claim was debatable; the IDF more or less follow the war laws and don't target civilians explicitly. They can't choose the battleground and Palestinians hit civilians in Gaza, too. Sure, there are quite a number of cases of criticism, yes.)
I'm not going to answer your defense of extreme racism and (that like Mel Gibson et al) you have Jewish friends. It is just too low quality -- at least be an entertaining troll. (I didn't bother reading after finding bad arguments and bad trolling in the beginning -- it seemed to be some personal insults and some conspiracy theories.)
Hamas use rockets to target civilians, which is active terrorism.
Hamas use antisemitic propaganda -- for instance, The Protocols of Zion which was a large inspiration for Mein Kampf (which sells well in the Arab World, by the way).
When some Austrian nuts was in the government, Austria were isolated. Even that party would never have thought of using Nazi-inspired antisemitic propaganda.
Of course the prime example of hypocricy in our time [...]
Let us see... A country in the EU was isolated (with lots of administrative problems) without much complaints. Lots of the people that didn't complain about that argue that nazi inspired terrorists which are hundreds of times worse should be accepted? I think I have another nomination for the worst case of double standards than you...
You have realized that all countries have double standards in their foreign policy and lie about it? (-: You are a bit slow or quite young, aren't you?:-) "Realpolitik" isn't exactly news. Sure, it was even worse during the Cold War.
Just another product that's supposed to mature after extensive paying-user-beta-testing.
I wish it was that "good".:-(
The OOXML spec seems to be a dump of the MS Office data formats, so it should already be decades old. But sure, let us not assume malice when stupidity will suffice as explanation. I mean, we don't speak about condemned criminal here, do we? Oh, wait...
Most people need to hear what I listen to, before they get even a head ache.
For metal, check out Meshuggah, Dillinger Escape Plan and Nile. Jazz? Get an overview of 60s avantgarde to find what I like. Folk -- check klezmer, East European gypsy stuff (Kocani Orkestar, Istanbul Oriental Ensemble, Taraf De Haidouks, etc), some Irish and more-or-less Arabic/world (e.g. Souad Massi, Natacha Atlas).
I hope I don't destroy your assassination budget when I tell you I'm not unique.:-) A cool work friend (which disappeared and started working on computer games I think -- Måns, where are you?) had a similar taste, but he was serious and played e.g. jazz wind instruments. His parents were music teachers. He had an incredible collection of obscure non-structural jazz.
Are the spamming b.st.rds reusing the images for blog comments, or something like that? Do that for a hundred blog readers and they could get fast feedback.
You make a good point, but I've also seen so many good musicians that only are paid to play "Wild rover" I feel like crying. But sure, if nothing else, it is probably a critical learning experience to pick music to pieces and play it yourself. But I still hope the (few) really good cover bands I've seen will start doing their own stuff, instead.
(-: Let us try this law in some backwater country like USA and see if it works. Then we implements it over here in the land of the free, the EU.:-)
I agree with your points, but consider what a boom this might be for people writing their own music. We might think of this as a good thing in ten years.
The world is a better place with a few cover bands less... (You won't believe me, but I heard a local band that did Bowie as good as the original. I'm more of a jazz, folk and death metal man, but they were good -- I hope they can write!)
Does skipping steps in the legal process, (steps that the average small company would have to take) count as doing no evil?
Big difference -- small companies generally don't even try to start trouble with companies that can buy the President. Judges aren't ever allowed to receive campaign contributions. Arguably, Google can't use the same methods as small companies.
It will have been sneaky and underhanded, and we would be just as bad as them.
If I saw this point about the Open Source movement, i.e. it isn't a business and shouldn't do dog-eat-dog with war-time propaganda etc, I would agree. It is more of a philosophical movement than a business.
But Google is a business. Outside of any monopoly areas they have to compete hard -- or do criminal acts like MS. If you don't like it, go invent a better economic system. (Please do, it would be nice to find something that both works and is nice. Just don't test it inside 10 000 km from where I live.)
Wow, people defending criminal monopolists sound like kids that used wall hacks in Counterstrike:
Hey, I am psychic -- I shot at the wall because I felt someone there.. U're just a crybaby loooser
Oh and by the way, if you think complaints about misuse of monopolies are wrong then go prove the economic research wrong. Come back in ten years to show everyone else wrong. (Hint -- we will not be dead from holding our breaths.)
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Let me guess... if we don't "cease the bullshit", China will do a Tibet on us when it grows powerful..?
I wish it would feel natural to add a ":-)" here...
That said, foreign policy is as brutal, selfish and dishonest in most countries, including democracies (foreigners don't have the right to vote "at home"). The rest of the world really hopes that China will get its act together on e.g. human rights.
(P S -- to have as your only argument that others' politics might be criticized is a bit weak.)
You are wrong, 1984 started much before 24 years ago... and will be relevant much longer than 24 years more.
That said, it will be really cool when online cameras become legion. personal crime like robberies and rape will have to be reinvented by criminals and psychopaths.
1984, here we come.
I'd certainly be a bit less philosophical if I'd gotten a religious upbringing, of course.
You should respect the religious because we are all human and have weaknesses to be ashamed of.
Hate the religion, not the religious -- those unfortunate which either have mental problems or was indoctrinated at an early age. Be happy it wasn't you.
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You keep claiming that mod_perl is fragile. That hasn't been mine (and others) experience. Could you give references to support your claims or are you just trolling?
PHP's advantage is an easy learning curve, so it is easy to pickup (no cheap jokes about fat women, please). Larry Wall described that as [PHP] takes the worse-is-better approach to dazzling new depths.
With that kind of raison d'être it shouldn't be surprising it is hard to get users to embrace new versions.
"Blame"? How about saying "thank you, West!"? No part of the world had it good before the west invented industrialization. Before, everyone had e.g. 20-30% child mortality, horrible diseases, lack of resources to educate people and hunger from periodical bad harvests.
The best part is that in the end, the sh.tholes neighbors (Pakistan and Bangladesh) will have to copy the Indian recipe and become better places. It will be their only chance to keep the population happy.
And all large social/industrial changes will get people caught in the middle; it is a fact of life. This time, it happens to be lots of us westerners. Let us just hope that the advances for humanity won't be squandered on wars or some other waste.
Frankly, I don't really buy it. I'd guess that the high child mortality (typically 20-30%, varying quite a bit) was a large driving factor since at least farming (population density increased so the disease pressure should have changed a lot).
For now. In just a few generations, humanity will probably be choosing genes for kids as SOP. (Already in the next generation, smart drugs will probably be quite common.)
If we are DNA-based at all in a hundred years. Check e.g. "Mind Children" by Moravec.
All this, like racism, is just history. It won't be relevant soon.
It seems to be time for IBM to sell a few hundred patents to a bunch of Patent troll companies, which then sue Microsoft...?
The start of the patent wars seems to be similar to the cold war, when the super powers fought by proxy.
That sounds really strange.
At least here in my local Sweden, medical people doesn't need to study biology before becoming doctors.
But the biology departments here have lots more students than there are jobs for biologists. It is something people study out of interest -- more or less like music. (I did some (bio)chemistry out of interest and it was not at all as popular as biology.)
The difference, I'd guess, is that it is more expensive to study in the US? Unless you're wealthy, it is harder to study a couple of years just from love of a subject?
Since this is a discussion about Sweden: "De stora skitarna flyter ovanpå".
A farmer saying inspired by fertilizers (but relevant outside). It means: "The big shits floats to the top".
Doesn't this architecture looks suitable for the Connection Machine languages? They had something similar in CM-5, I think? (Anyone even older than me around?)
You wrote from the beginning: [Western leaders] actively seek to destroy [democracy] [...] The odd thing is that Hamas has kept it's word and has not used suicide bombers for over 3 years.
My first point out that Hamas were still doing terrorism (rocket artillery targeting civilians) so not using suicide bombers is irrelevant. Active terrorists have problems to be accepted -- and Hamas isn't accepted by EU either.
Your "answer" was to compare unaimed rockets against civilians with someone else using rockets against militants that target civilians -- both totally irrelevant and an apples/oranges cmparision. Now you again claim that was relevant?!
My second point was that Hamas used extreme nazi-inspired racism in their propaganda. I pointed out that an established democracy was isolated for at least 100 times less than Hamas, which you just joked about (you might just be unaware; google for e.g. diplomatic isolation haider austria). The Austria example show that there is no democracy problem in isolating democracies.
To be totally clear:
Either of those two points is enough to motivate that Hamas is isolated internationally. Both are obvious points and you have failed to address them twice now, so I am out of here. You're a troll or a propaganda machine -- both are wasted time.
Btw, your "unknown facts" sound just like more left wing Chomskyism, which seem as crazy as the US right wing.
(And I agree -- Hamas will come in from the cold in five seconds if they are needed... think Pakistan in 2001. Realpolitik is the guiding principle for every country and they all lie about it. If there is no money or other interests involved, democracies are usually quite principled.)
First, the discussion was Hamas' behaviour -- which you defended because they haven't done one specific type of terrorism for a while. (The reason for that is debated; the Israelis seems to claim it is their wall, based on some interview with Haniya(?) in Egypt.)
So I pointed out that wasn't a serious argument -- so now you "argue" that Hamas isn't doing terrorism by changing the subject and claiming someone else isn't perfect!! As intellectually dishonest as your first "argument".
(Your claim was debatable; the IDF more or less follow the war laws and don't target civilians explicitly. They can't choose the battleground and Palestinians hit civilians in Gaza, too. Sure, there are quite a number of cases of criticism, yes.)
I'm not going to answer your defense of extreme racism and (that like Mel Gibson et al) you have Jewish friends. It is just too low quality -- at least be an entertaining troll. (I didn't bother reading after finding bad arguments and bad trolling in the beginning -- it seemed to be some personal insults and some conspiracy theories.)
Hamas use rockets to target civilians, which is active terrorism.
Hamas use antisemitic propaganda -- for instance, The Protocols of Zion which was a large inspiration for Mein Kampf (which sells well in the Arab World, by the way).
When some Austrian nuts was in the government, Austria were isolated. Even that party would never have thought of using Nazi-inspired antisemitic propaganda.
Let us see... A country in the EU was isolated (with lots of administrative problems) without much complaints. Lots of the people that didn't complain about that argue that nazi inspired terrorists which are hundreds of times worse should be accepted? I think I have another nomination for the worst case of double standards than you...
You have realized that all countries have double standards in their foreign policy and lie about it? (-: You are a bit slow or quite young, aren't you? :-) "Realpolitik" isn't exactly news. Sure, it was even worse during the Cold War.
I wish it was that "good". :-(
The OOXML spec seems to be a dump of the MS Office data formats, so it should already be decades old. But sure, let us not assume malice when stupidity will suffice as explanation. I mean, we don't speak about condemned criminal here, do we? Oh, wait...
Most people need to hear what I listen to, before they get even a head ache.
For metal, check out Meshuggah, Dillinger Escape Plan and Nile. Jazz? Get an overview of 60s avantgarde to find what I like. Folk -- check klezmer, East European gypsy stuff (Kocani Orkestar, Istanbul Oriental Ensemble, Taraf De Haidouks, etc), some Irish and more-or-less Arabic/world (e.g. Souad Massi, Natacha Atlas).
I hope I don't destroy your assassination budget when I tell you I'm not unique. :-) A cool work friend (which disappeared and started working on computer games I think -- Måns, where are you?) had a similar taste, but he was serious and played e.g. jazz wind instruments. His parents were music teachers. He had an incredible collection of obscure non-structural jazz.
Are the spamming b.st.rds reusing the images for blog comments, or something like that? Do that for a hundred blog readers and they could get fast feedback.
You make a good point, but I've also seen so many good musicians that only are paid to play "Wild rover" I feel like crying. But sure, if nothing else, it is probably a critical learning experience to pick music to pieces and play it yourself. But I still hope the (few) really good cover bands I've seen will start doing their own stuff, instead.
(-: Let us try this law in some backwater country like USA and see if it works. Then we implements it over here in the land of the free, the EU. :-)
I agree with your points, but consider what a boom this might be for people writing their own music. We might think of this as a good thing in ten years.
The world is a better place with a few cover bands less... (You won't believe me, but I heard a local band that did Bowie as good as the original. I'm more of a jazz, folk and death metal man, but they were good -- I hope they can write!)
Big difference -- small companies generally don't even try to start trouble with companies that can buy the President. Judges aren't ever allowed to receive campaign contributions. Arguably, Google can't use the same methods as small companies.
(And did Google really skip steps?)
Further down, you argue about Google:
If I saw this point about the Open Source movement, i.e. it isn't a business and shouldn't do dog-eat-dog with war-time propaganda etc, I would agree. It is more of a philosophical movement than a business.
But Google is a business. Outside of any monopoly areas they have to compete hard -- or do criminal acts like MS. If you don't like it, go invent a better economic system. (Please do, it would be nice to find something that both works and is nice. Just don't test it inside 10 000 km from where I live.)
Wow, people defending criminal monopolists sound like kids that used wall hacks in Counterstrike:
Oh and by the way, if you think complaints about misuse of monopolies are wrong then go prove the economic research wrong. Come back in ten years to show everyone else wrong. (Hint -- we will not be dead from holding our breaths.)