what about PHP/Postgre/linux? or perl/mysql/linux? or PHP/mysql/solaris?
All the components are modular... if the mysql people slack off with security, you can drop them in favour of postgres, with practically no interruption and minimal retooling.
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they want to do. Solaris is wonderful, rock-solid, etc. I wouldn't run my DB server on anything else. As for a workstation/desktop, I'd still much rather stick to linux (for commodity hardware support, as well as support for media, games, etc.)
I thought that the GPL had an exception for "links-to" versus "extends" or "based-upon."
No it doesn't. That's why Stallman himself made glibc LGPL. It's also why you see very few commercial Qt applications ( gtk+ is LGPL, Qt is essentially GPL unless you pay for it)
No, if it was money i was concerned about, i'd just pirate windows or something. If it was quality+free I wanted, I'd pirate macos or solaris (which is now free, and I'll blame linux for that) or something
that's such crap. (K)Ubuntu manage to have both up-to date AND stable software, so quit spreading FUD. Assuming one doesn't unmask things they shouldn't, Gentoo also has relatively up to date & stable software (with a couple exceptions relating to the package manager, which are currently being resolved)
You can have my mac when you pry it from my cold dead hands. well, from the sounds of it if you've got a MBP, those hands'd be pretty damned hot. Hotter than any electronics should ever be
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"Open Source" + "Sun Microsystems" almost certainly = "CDDL"
we don't pump out code near as solid as the BSD or GNU/Linux guys. They obviously do a LOT of testing.
There's an army of ricers to do their testing for them (I'm actually not judging, I do it too on occasion... i'm running a ck kernel at the moment). Commercial companies have to pay their testers
That just seems some pretty bad FUD to me. All it takes is for the developer to assume case-ambiguity (only refer to files with proper case, but don't name 2 files with only case differences), and speak straight to the kernel/os API. No posix program seems to have any trouble dealing with ZFS, ext3, ricerfs, xfs, etc. because they're all case sensitive and that's really the only meaningful difference from the developer standpoint (with the exception of extended attributes, which aren't common enough to matter, but can be dealt with in the same way as the case problems)
Exactly. something to sit above the kernel, or "supervisor"... something like a "hypervisor", which is exactly what xen's marketing department wants us to call the xen kernel
Ever thought that "goth" is a uniform in the same way corporate khakis are?
You're not unique if you look like your friends, even if you annoy grandmothers
When boatloads of chinese migrants showed up on the shores of Vancouver (in Canada...) a good chunk of them were allowed to stay
Couple people got their panties in a knot about it... mostly the ones heavily influenced by US media
They've invented the Summer of Code but without all that, you know... money
what about PHP/Postgre/linux? or perl/mysql/linux? or PHP/mysql/solaris?
All the components are modular... if the mysql people slack off with security, you can drop them in favour of postgres, with practically no interruption and minimal retooling.
That's not how I would define "monoculture"
I'm pretty sure that's exactly what they want to do. Solaris is wonderful, rock-solid, etc. I wouldn't run my DB server on anything else. As for a workstation/desktop, I'd still much rather stick to linux (for commodity hardware support, as well as support for media, games, etc.)
And Solaris
rich California yuppies who care more about style than usefulness use macs? go figgure...
I thought that the GPL had an exception for "links-to" versus "extends" or "based-upon."
No it doesn't. That's why Stallman himself made glibc LGPL. It's also why you see very few commercial Qt applications ( gtk+ is LGPL, Qt is essentially GPL unless you pay for it)
More likely, Sun will make the source CDDL like the rest of their free-software (and hardware :) ) offerings
Well, microsoft *DID* steal the network stack...
No, if it was money i was concerned about, i'd just pirate windows or something. If it was quality+free I wanted, I'd pirate macos or solaris (which is now free, and I'll blame linux for that) or something
No, it doesn't... it looks like that godawful AeroGlass theme they've given longhorn/vista/whatever... it's *painful* to look at
when "the grain" is "freedom-restricting technology trends", then yes... We must insist on going "against the grain"
Must the founders of America always go against the grain when it comes to that whole England thing?....
that's such crap. (K)Ubuntu manage to have both up-to date AND stable software, so quit spreading FUD. Assuming one doesn't unmask things they shouldn't, Gentoo also has relatively up to date & stable software (with a couple exceptions relating to the package manager, which are currently being resolved)
If that's the case, then small business' primary product is "going out of business with no warning and everyone gets fired without severance".
Both have their downsides, that's why some of us live in countries with strong social welfare
"(who won't store it safely before use and will expect it to produce accurate results in beverages from 0C to 199C)."
You're going to test the superheated steam for caffeine?
You can have my mac when you pry it from my cold dead hands.
well, from the sounds of it if you've got a MBP, those hands'd be pretty damned hot. Hotter than any electronics should ever be
"Open Source" + "Sun Microsystems" almost certainly = "CDDL"
we don't pump out code near as solid as the BSD or GNU/Linux guys. They obviously do a LOT of testing.
There's an army of ricers to do their testing for them (I'm actually not judging, I do it too on occasion... i'm running a ck kernel at the moment). Commercial companies have to pay their testers
That just seems some pretty bad FUD to me. All it takes is for the developer to assume case-ambiguity (only refer to files with proper case, but don't name 2 files with only case differences), and speak straight to the kernel/os API. No posix program seems to have any trouble dealing with ZFS, ext3, ricerfs, xfs, etc. because they're all case sensitive and that's really the only meaningful difference from the developer standpoint (with the exception of extended attributes, which aren't common enough to matter, but can be dealt with in the same way as the case problems)
so do it.
xen 3 and an amd pacifica/intel VT chip?
wouldn't be the first time
Exactly. something to sit above the kernel, or "supervisor"... something like a "hypervisor", which is exactly what xen's marketing department wants us to call the xen kernel
they are the only company to commercially support Linux platform
Thanks but no thanks, I don't want it
One day, they remove "linux" from that drop down list, I wonder who loses.
Real does, they lose marketshare for their garbage closed-source bullshit player
Or a rewrite of an X server where the display device is "a file on the harddrive", and an alsa driver that outputs to "another file on the harddrive".
Linux is pretty good at letting you do whatever you want with your computer, especially if you know a bit of C