Quite aside from how one feels about animal testing (I'm for it, fwiw, which is significant considering i'm a vegetarian for moral reasons), the issue at hand is that murder in defence of one's position is wrong
Not only is it damaging to the cause, but it's just plain morally wrong to harm a human being, regardless of what he's done
That's total nonsense. You can teach a monkey to click-and-drool their way through a GUI. And KDE is not a whole lot different from windows on that front.
"click start, go to programs, go to internet, internet expolorer" or "click K, go to Applications, go to internet, konqueror browser" are for all intents and purposes the exact same thing
The library lab is dell PC's, I assume the business department also, allthough I wouldn't know. All the backend stuff is Solaris, and all the CS computers run some mixture of Solaris & Linux with the exception of the graduate lab, which has a couple macs and a couple windows PC's (the graphic design programs & the scientists also use macs)
The point I was trying to illustrate is simply that those who will in the future have the ability and power to make purchasing decisions (the CS dept.) are trained on UNIX
My college is a Solaris shop, and there are others like it.
I bring this up only because your argument fails when you consider that most colleges were UNIX shops until recently, yet windows is the dominant OS in the desktop.
Similarly, my elementary and high-schools used macs (as were many others) until about the time that win98se arrived, yet by that point most home PC's were windows as well
When immigrants come to America, they often begin calling themselves "americans". Even natives (not aborignal/first nation/indians) call them X-Americans for X = the country of orign (indian-americans, for example)
What did Sun flip-flop on? Solaris is almost completely open source (the list of required binaries for OpenSolaris is shrinking almost every build) and that hasn't changed. J2EE server is now apache with some other (also free software) stuff tacked on... really, Sun makes very few non-free products (sunray server, for one off the top of my head, and the JDK/JRE for two, which is slowly but surely being released)
After watching other techies struggle with Apple's "the user is an idiot" philosophy, I think I will stick to Linux for computers which really work.
Then those "techies" are dumb & can't read a manpage. I'm a seasoned UNIX user (does 15 years count?) & *I* even think that Apple was smart with OSX. The beauty of MacOS isn't that things "just work" and the user doesn't think, it's that the OS scales well to the users' knowledge. My mom, for example, can click the pretty widgets and things just work... I can open a terminal and am faced with a relatively uninteresting variant of FreeBSD with a pretty windowing system. Both of us can get the same amount of work done.
Windows, on the other hand, creates an unwavering line between administration knowledge & use knowledge. Things are hidden enough (registry? c'mon...) that if you don't know the system really well, basic things like removing software requires a call to the neighborhood smart-kid (to do the same operation on a mac, just delete the icon). Conversely, a system administrator is forced to click through dialog after dialog to change one setting that, if MS had seen fit to base the system on UNIX, would require a single line in a config file somewhere to be changed by someone who knows what they're doing
And therein lies the crux of the matter... people don't want to figgure out how to transfer their data over, they just want to copy it over & it works.. the only thing they've seen the data work on is windows/office, so that's what they get.
That's silly. Why don't you say "Linux is a monopoly -- in order to be certain of being able to run all of the Linux applications out there, you need to have Linux."
That's easy... because it's false
freebsd will run linux binaries, newer versions of solaris have limited capacity to do the same.
Further, since most "linux apps" are free software & POSIX, you can compile them with no modification on solaris, any of the BSD's, hp-ux, solaris, irix, etc...
Five or ten marines in Haditha, five or ten soldiers in Abu Ghraib, and suddenly 100,000+ soldiers are all evil child killing rapist monsters.
I, for one, don't villify them for the 20 or 30 bad apples. I villify them because their job is to kill people. They kill people for money.
If their victims weren't brown, we'd gas them, but since they wear a flag on their shoulder, we give them a medal.
Let me repeat: THEY KILL PEOPLE FOR MONEY
I don't know how that's such an easy thing to accept for some people, but as far as I'm concerned, 2500 deaths aren't enough, those murderers deserve everything they get...
"It's been weeks now and saying "Wii" in conversation still makes me physically cringe."
Myself as well. I've started referring to it as pronounced "why" rather than "we" (long 'i' sound, instead of long 'e')... Try it, it's empowering or something
Don't tell us that it comes with source code so it should be spyware free.
Okay, it's not built as a result of profit motive, and so it should be spyware free.
Do you think that ANY ordinary ppl can handle source code, what is "source code" ?
Well, depends how you define "ordinary", however... OSS zealots also happen to be anti-spyware zealots. Any malicious code would be pointed out in no time flat, even if Linus, Cox, et al. decided "hey, lets put some ads in here". You know *someone*'d post something on Slashdot about it.
DirectX 9 that I need to sqeeze top performance from my apps, where is such a direct hardware support on Linux ?
Don't like the lack of a stable ABI? fork the kernel. You have the source, to use any way you want (with the exception of making it less free). Some folks'll use your fork, I'm sure
Let me give my.02 cents (Canadian cents, so that's like, 1.8ish cents USD).
I, like you, was formerly a Nintendo diehard. I bought an N64 and was sorely dissapointed as well. As a result I completely avoided the GC.
This time, though, is different. I played with a DS at EB... then I bought one when the lite was launched
Playing with the DS, I'm convinced that Nintendo's found it's way again. These games are fun. Because of the E3 videos, the games lineup planned for launch, and the DS... I have faith that the Wii will be well worth it's $200 (a fraction of the sports-box360 or ps$3,000 cost)
low-valued prizes to get work done that would otherwise cost a lot of money and time and possibly outisde contractors...
meanwhile, Google's paying what seems about a low entry level salary for the Summer of Code participants... (and considering none of the participants has even graduated yet, it's pretty good)
Quite aside from how one feels about animal testing (I'm for it, fwiw, which is significant considering i'm a vegetarian for moral reasons), the issue at hand is that murder in defence of one's position is wrong
Not only is it damaging to the cause, but it's just plain morally wrong to harm a human being, regardless of what he's done
The checka & gestapo made heavy use of private citizen "informers", rather than doing their own investigations... I'll leave the conclusion up to you
You obviously haven't used linux recently.
The people who'd have problems with linux are the same people who would have problems with windows these days
That's total nonsense. You can teach a monkey to click-and-drool their way through a GUI. And KDE is not a whole lot different from windows on that front.
"click start, go to programs, go to internet, internet expolorer" or "click K, go to Applications, go to internet, konqueror browser" are for all intents and purposes the exact same thing
The library lab is dell PC's, I assume the business department also, allthough I wouldn't know. All the backend stuff is Solaris, and all the CS computers run some mixture of Solaris & Linux with the exception of the graduate lab, which has a couple macs and a couple windows PC's (the graphic design programs & the scientists also use macs)
The point I was trying to illustrate is simply that those who will in the future have the ability and power to make purchasing decisions (the CS dept.) are trained on UNIX
Ever thought maybe Apple absorbs the loss because they make so damned much on iTMS that it justifies it?
My college is a Solaris shop, and there are others like it.
I bring this up only because your argument fails when you consider that most colleges were UNIX shops until recently, yet windows is the dominant OS in the desktop.
Similarly, my elementary and high-schools used macs (as were many others) until about the time that win98se arrived, yet by that point most home PC's were windows as well
maybe Professionals should consider the Macbook Pro...
When immigrants come to America, they often begin calling themselves "americans". Even natives (not aborignal/first nation/indians) call them X-Americans for X = the country of orign (indian-americans, for example)
Why should his be any different?
What did Sun flip-flop on? Solaris is almost completely open source (the list of required binaries for OpenSolaris is shrinking almost every build) and that hasn't changed. J2EE server is now apache with some other (also free software) stuff tacked on... really, Sun makes very few non-free products (sunray server, for one off the top of my head, and the JDK/JRE for two, which is slowly but surely being released)
After watching other techies struggle with Apple's "the user is an idiot" philosophy, I think I will stick to Linux for computers which really work.
Then those "techies" are dumb & can't read a manpage. I'm a seasoned UNIX user (does 15 years count?) & *I* even think that Apple was smart with OSX. The beauty of MacOS isn't that things "just work" and the user doesn't think, it's that the OS scales well to the users' knowledge. My mom, for example, can click the pretty widgets and things just work... I can open a terminal and am faced with a relatively uninteresting variant of FreeBSD with a pretty windowing system. Both of us can get the same amount of work done.
Windows, on the other hand, creates an unwavering line between administration knowledge & use knowledge. Things are hidden enough (registry? c'mon...) that if you don't know the system really well, basic things like removing software requires a call to the neighborhood smart-kid (to do the same operation on a mac, just delete the icon). Conversely, a system administrator is forced to click through dialog after dialog to change one setting that, if MS had seen fit to base the system on UNIX, would require a single line in a config file somewhere to be changed by someone who knows what they're doing
It's easy as long as you're not a moron.
And therein lies the crux of the matter... people don't want to figgure out how to transfer their data over, they just want to copy it over & it works.. the only thing they've seen the data work on is windows/office, so that's what they get.
That's silly. Why don't you say "Linux is a monopoly -- in order to be certain of being able to run all of the Linux applications out there, you need to have Linux."
That's easy... because it's false
freebsd will run linux binaries, newer versions of solaris have limited capacity to do the same.
Further, since most "linux apps" are free software & POSIX, you can compile them with no modification on solaris, any of the BSD's, hp-ux, solaris, irix, etc...
What I find funny is the line "The average I.Q. has been increasing for decades", because if it has, someone dropped the ball...
The average IQ is 100, by definition if IQ. That's what the tests are normalized for.
Five or ten marines in Haditha, five or ten soldiers in Abu Ghraib, and suddenly 100,000+ soldiers are all evil child killing rapist monsters.
I, for one, don't villify them for the 20 or 30 bad apples. I villify them because their job is to kill people. They kill people for money.
If their victims weren't brown, we'd gas them, but since they wear a flag on their shoulder, we give them a medal.
Let me repeat: THEY KILL PEOPLE FOR MONEY
I don't know how that's such an easy thing to accept for some people, but as far as I'm concerned, 2500 deaths aren't enough, those murderers deserve everything they get...
"It's been weeks now and saying "Wii" in conversation still makes me physically cringe."
Myself as well. I've started referring to it as pronounced "why" rather than "we" (long 'i' sound, instead of long 'e')... Try it, it's empowering or something
That's a problem of ability, not rights.
I'm "free" in our society to become a professional athlete... Doesn't mean I'm able to
Don't tell us that it comes with source code so it should be spyware free.
Okay, it's not built as a result of profit motive, and so it should be spyware free.
Do you think that ANY ordinary ppl can handle source code, what is "source code" ?
Well, depends how you define "ordinary", however... OSS zealots also happen to be anti-spyware zealots. Any malicious code would be pointed out in no time flat, even if Linus, Cox, et al. decided "hey, lets put some ads in here". You know *someone*'d post something on Slashdot about it.
DirectX 9 that I need to sqeeze top performance from my apps, where is such a direct hardware support on Linux ?
SDL, next question.
You are free, is the thing.
Don't like the lack of a stable ABI? fork the kernel. You have the source, to use any way you want (with the exception of making it less free). Some folks'll use your fork, I'm sure
there is still not a true, separate driver interface API.
Sure there is. There's just not a consistent ABI, and that's on purpose.
If you're contributing a driver, GREAT. It'll compile against the currently installed kernel just fine.
If it's closed-source, go die. The kernel's GPL, not lGPL
Let me give my .02 cents (Canadian cents, so that's like, 1.8ish cents USD).
I, like you, was formerly a Nintendo diehard. I bought an N64 and was sorely dissapointed as well. As a result I completely avoided the GC.
This time, though, is different. I played with a DS at EB... then I bought one when the lite was launched
Playing with the DS, I'm convinced that Nintendo's found it's way again. These games are fun. Because of the E3 videos, the games lineup planned for launch, and the DS... I have faith that the Wii will be well worth it's $200 (a fraction of the sports-box360 or ps$3,000 cost)
Easy answer, Qt is going GPL for all platforms unless you fork over some cash (in which case, you get to link it to proprietary software)
low-valued prizes to get work done that would otherwise cost a lot of money and time and possibly outisde contractors...
meanwhile, Google's paying what seems about a low entry level salary for the Summer of Code participants... (and considering none of the participants has even graduated yet, it's pretty good)
4) Amarok is intended to be a software for all desktops, not just KDE.
He was speaking "all desktops" as in "kde, gnome, enlightenment", etc. IIRC there is no version in planning at all for WinToys
Didn't Nintendo publish a good majority of the NES games? (making them the copyright holder)
Note that IANAL and IHNIWITA (I have no idea what I'm talking about), but this is just my first speculation