Let see how paranoid you'd get if we were to 'obtain' your home address/phone number, mother's (or other close relative's residence), etc. We can publish it on Slashdot as 'journalism', right? That cool with you?
Every once in a while you've impresseed me with your articles - years ago I used to read your stuff in PC Magazine and agreed with a lot of it. But I think you're off track here....and by the way, your keyboard sucks rocks too!
...and KHTML. Would you rather that kind of relationship existed between Sun and OOo? So far, what Sun has value-added to OOo is minimal and has not affected the overall operation of OOo. You don't see Sun making impossible changes to OOo like Apple has with KHTML.
Is KHTML benefiting from Apple? Sure. Much? Not compared to what Apple is getting out of it. I thank God the situation is different here. While I understand Stallman's point, I just wish there was a little more respect or understanding for Sun's considerable efforts in what is a difficult time economically for them.
Listen, like it or not, shit's gonna change. As computers and technology become more integrated with humans in general, the line blurs between memory and experience.
When you have organizations like the RIAA suing the Girl Scouts (for Christ's sake!) over singing 'Happy Birthday' - you know the balance is out of whack and things need to be changed.
Is whistling 'Happy Birthday' in public a crime too? Isn't that considered a public performance of a copyrighted song?
So it goes for television. For instance, is relaying the details of an episode to a friend illegal? One step further then..
Would it be illegal if I emailed that description?
Would it be illegal if I were to draw pictures of the episode, frame by frame from memory? What if my memory was damn near perfect and I'm a good artist?
Would it be illegal if my memory was enhanced somehow, say merged with a computer-like memory and I sent the 'thought' of the episode through the Internet? Still illegal?
I could give you numerous examples of the lunacy the current system - past, present and future. As Billy Joel once sang, "We didn't start the fire." No, we didn't - the mega-corps did - or at least gave us the tools and now somehow try and tell us how to use them.
There are other models in advertising (as the above article suggests) and distribution that simply work if the industry wasn't so megalomaniac about it's control. I just wish our reps in Congress understood this better. After all, don't we have enough people in jail already?
I don't know. If the onboard CPU cooler is efficient enough it shouldn't matter.
Take a closer look at the video and some of the pictures that have been floating around. There is a Dell-style hood that encloses the CPU/Cooler and a fan at the back of the unit. I'd say the heat is totally managable.
...no matter how many times it crashes, no matter how insecure, no matter how slow, no matter how restrictive the license, no matter how clumsy the interface, it will...
In fact...
SELL?
Don't completely disregard the power of MS. Hell, somehow Windows has always gotten away with it!
I think part of the issue here is to know precisely what parts of OOo use Java and go from there. Are they necessary to the functioning of OOo or just frilly extras?
In all the posts here, I haven't read anything about how this affects the Mac version or vice-versa. Since OOo is not directly supported on the Mac, NeoOffice has stepped up... With increased use of Java again!
There was a large chunk of code donated to OOo from the NeoOffice/J project. Anyone want to take bets on how much of it was Java-based?
Actually there are some very real similarities. For instance, my son has a very difficult time understanding social nuances and tends to take things quite literally. It isn't that he doesn't have a sense of humor - it's just that it's very different from what most people relate to. In short, it's funny what he finds 'funny'.
Benji didn't struggle with speech because he couldn't mentally or physically do it. It was a communication issue on a whole different level. He struggled because in his mind he didn't understand WHY we just didn't KNOW what he wanted (a child's primary purpose for speech is to ask for things). Speech simply didn't seem necessary to him. Once he realized that asking for things got him somewhere, the speech came very quickly. This is the kind of thing early intervention is great for.
He has trouble relating to 'normal' people and this is what I got out of the article. In this particular way, my son is exactly like Mr. Cohen. Autism has many different levels and types - some more like Asperger's than others. My son's type is considered NOS - 'Not Otherwise Specified' which basically means, "Hey! We don't know either!":)
It was great to read this article as it gives me hope. My own son has a similar form of Autism and although I've been able to 'get into his head' to understand him better, I know that others won't have the patience or the understanding to do the same.
And on a further note, I can tell you from experience that early intervention really helps ALOT! My son's progress is such that he is almost ready to join full time with his second grade class. Two years ago he was still struggling with speech.
Oh you've got to be kidding me. I guess it's only a monopoly when your own monopoly gets competition. I hope Steve Jobs responds by getting a coalition of other MP3 makers/ music distributors together to fight these folks in Washington.
You realize of course that if Apple, Napster, and others don't defend themselves by going on the offensive, they're toast. After all the music and movie industry OWNS Congress. It is clear from Rosen's statement that they want 'all Apple's base' to belong to the RIAA first and no doubt everyone else's too...
.DOC is NOT a standard. It's not even a format that's 100% interchangable between different versions of Word/Works. And let's not go there about the foreign (mainly Asian) troubles with compatibility.
MS thrives on changing it just enough to force people into buying the newest versions.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it true that no one FORCES anyone to use GPL code in the first place? What's the argument here, really? Don't like the GPL? Don't use the damn code!
This is simply a way for a few to profit from others work. No corporation can buy it exclusively and that must really piss them off as this is an age where corporations simply buy out their competitors. I do expect to see battles fought over this, but I'm hoping that there is still fairness and sanity left in our creaking justice system.
I think one of the larger issues is the extreme power of the industry. ClearChannel controls the most obvious form of 'free' music - radio. This is where most of the kids get their ideas of what music is all about.
Except it's not free after all. Most of the time, we're talking about kids when we talk about music sharing. To be sure, there are plenty of adults doing it, but for the same reason you don't see a lot of 80's music selections at Fry's, the push, the demand is in teen-based music.
And we all know how responsible kids are, right? Not that we shouldn't expect the most from our kids, but they do have difficulty with fine lines. Like the fine line between 'free' radio and an even freer Limewire.
Holding children responsible for hundreds of thousands of dollars each isn't going to stop them from making these choices. After all, kids rarely think anything can happen to THEM, it always happens to those OTHER kids. The industry as a whole needs to take a hard look at what the trends are and find a way to capitalize on it.
It's happened time and time again in the industry and there is no difference except scale now (don't forget, they still control the airwaves).
I too buy from indie labels like CD Baby and Magnatune - but for the mature among us, it's also a political statement. The simple fact is: most kids don't care about that stuff - they just want to listen to what they saw/heard on MTV (they DO play MUSIC sometimes) and the radio and find the quickest way to get it onto their iPods...
Look, the U.S. also has the highest per capita prison population. Wouldn't you agree that you can take the whole criminalization thing a bit too far? Using your example you'd make it an imprisioning offence to do 56 MPH in a 55 MPH zone. Hey! That speeding bastard is breaking the law! Kick his ass!
Seriously, isn't part of the justice system's purpose to be reasonable when considering punishment? Besides, I wonder if your example of breaking a window is relevant here.
Music piracy isn't so much about destroying someone else's chance to listen to it - regardless of the health of the music industry's outmoded business models. True theft or vandalism would involve that. True musicians do what they do for the love of the MUSIC - and people listen to it for the same reason. No, it doesn't mean musicians shouldn't be able to make a living off of it, but you know something? There was a time before CD's, tape players, vinyl, wax, and an organized industry that is looking to make music sharing of any sort a federal crime.
This same industry sues the Girl Scouts for singing 'Happy Birthday' for God's sake!
Do you defend this sort of bullshit activity on their part too? Should the girls be sent to slave labor in Mississippi for six days and each get fined $5000 because they danced to the Macarena in a public performance? I would say that most people don't buy into this line of thinking and that *reasonable* limitations on copyright have been breached by greedy politicans and corporations alike.
The industry saturates the airwaves with it's crap and targets children as their main audience. Again, when ClearChannel covers some 70% of the airwaves out there - where does the ability to choose come in?
At the same time, they seek to put walls around their listener's expressions of the music they hear. I'm not talking about law, I'm talking about the very real emotional response that music evokes in the young. And you expect these kids not to share what they love? And then this same industry pushes the worst kinds of depravity and depictions of 'gangsta' activity right on MTV, saying in effect, "Yo, yo, yo! Check it - yeah, it's cool to be a gangsta but DON'T STEAL OUR MUSIC!" Laughable, yo. Talk about mixed messages!
Good musicians somehow made it way back when - maybe more so than now since it appears the 5 majors and ClearChannel drown out what they don't like. The music industry is not supposed to be some sort of musician's endowment (and if it is, it's a total ripoff for 99% of them), but that's what is happening due to the heavy handed legislation and 'education' the industry force feeds.
Sure, copying is hurting the industy, blah, blah, blah. They said that back in the 80's when I made mix tapes for my friends, or (Horror!) my dad taped songs off the radio. Back in the late 60's the industry did everything they legally could to stop cassette tapes from coming into being. In the 80's it was DAT and in the 90's it was CD-R's. Somehow the industry survived our blatant wrongdoing, somehow they will survive this.
And just how do they survive? Simple. CD sales are NOT the only selling thing for most record companies. It's all about licensing! Licensing for movies, for radio, for Muzak, whatever. If not another single CD was sold from today on, the industry would survive it. So in light of this, how about a compromise then? Why not decriminalize file sharing and give the corps unlimited copyright terms for other corps' use? After all, it's not like they don't ensure they get extended copyrights anyway and making music 'free' would ensure greater acceptance among the listening audience.
The above rant written by a musician and a believer in reasonable copyright law.
Well I'm not sure about the differences. Certainly those school systems with a Mac emphasis will have a more difficult time with this and that's due to these reasons:
1) There is no officially supported version of OOo for the Mac. Yes, there is Neooffice/J, but there is little or no support from the OOo project for what they are doing. At one point, OOo's 2.0 was to have a Mac release but it was canned. My guess is that Sun wasn't too interested and Apple's outright snubbing of the project wasn't making that any better either. The other thing was that with Neooffice doing such a good job, I think the team felt that a separate effort was no longer necessary.
2) There is no StarOffice for the Mac. And that's a crying shame. Again, with no official corporate support, that makes it harder to sell to those who are concerned that the OOo/Neooffice/J projects can't match what MS has done with Office:Mac. Now if MS was to drop Office:Mac, that would be a different story. But with Apple's new word processor/desktop publisher (and other office-type software possibly under development) and MS's effort, Neooffice/J is a harder sell simply because of support.
I believe what needs to happen is Neooffice needs to offer a 'professional' edition of Neooffice/J. Something with direct support options at a price comparable to StarOffice.
It is my goal to insure that Linden Hall School is platform agnostic. I've been finding that it's a really hard thing to do, but it is possible. If a student wishes to bring a Mac (which I prefer actually - less chance of spyware/viruses), a PC, or something w/Linux on it (now THAT would be interesting!), it is my responsibility to see that it can be used in this environment. A lot of other schools make their students buy a particular machine but that's a lot more difficult when you have international students from all over the globe who may not have access to a specific brand or model.
Yeah, like that's WAY different than previous Dem administrations have been. Tell me, during the 40+ years the Dems were in power, did they not value loyalty, brook no dissent, take no prisoners, etc.?
When the previous Bush administration chose to make a deal with the Dems on taxes you could have counted in MILISECONDS how long it took the Dems to shoot him in the back with the 'no new taxes' line.
The present Bush administration maybe have more refined techniques but please, at least be honest enough to admit that this sort of thing is EXPECTED now in politics from both sides...
Because if it's the home users you are talking about it's pretty much hit or miss. Remember that Dell is primarily shipping machines with Wordperfect and Works. OOo would be a way to get the best of both worlds without having the students trash what they have already.
Both Publisher and Word have had issues with formatting with spaces or tabs. Change a printer or version of the software and everything goes out of whack.
We learned this fact the hard way when our old secretary left and we upgraded the new scretary with a new computer / version of Word. She put spaces in EVERYTHING (Table? What's a 'table'?) and the formatting was DESTROYED!
Besides, with table in table support, OOo 2.0 is putting a lot of this compatibility stuff to bed.
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Ok... Who the fuck rated this as 'OT'? I think it's right on target and an important point as the relationships between OSS and corporations varies.
Modders like this shouldn't exist but then I guess the rest of us wouldn't have anyone to laugh at.
Let see how paranoid you'd get if we were to 'obtain' your home address/phone number, mother's (or other close relative's residence), etc. We can publish it on Slashdot as 'journalism', right? That cool with you?
...and by the way, your keyboard sucks rocks too!
Every once in a while you've impresseed me with your articles - years ago I used to read your stuff in PC Magazine and agreed with a lot of it. But I think you're off track here.
Anyone else glance at the title and think: What the hell would a state have to do with non-emulation?
...and KHTML. Would you rather that kind of relationship existed between Sun and OOo? So far, what Sun has value-added to OOo is minimal and has not affected the overall operation of OOo. You don't see Sun making impossible changes to OOo like Apple has with KHTML.
Is KHTML benefiting from Apple? Sure. Much? Not compared to what Apple is getting out of it. I thank God the situation is different here. While I understand Stallman's point, I just wish there was a little more respect or understanding for Sun's considerable efforts in what is a difficult time economically for them.
... I assure you it won't happen again.
Listen, like it or not, shit's gonna change. As computers and technology become more integrated with humans in general, the line blurs between memory and experience.
When you have organizations like the RIAA suing the Girl Scouts (for Christ's sake!) over singing 'Happy Birthday' - you know the balance is out of whack and things need to be changed.
Is whistling 'Happy Birthday' in public a crime too? Isn't that considered a public performance of a copyrighted song?
So it goes for television. For instance, is relaying the details of an episode to a friend illegal? One step further then..
Would it be illegal if I emailed that description?
Would it be illegal if I were to draw pictures of the episode, frame by frame from memory? What if my memory was damn near perfect and I'm a good artist?
Would it be illegal if my memory was enhanced somehow, say merged with a computer-like memory and I sent the 'thought' of the episode through the Internet? Still illegal?
I could give you numerous examples of the lunacy the current system - past, present and future. As Billy Joel once sang, "We didn't start the fire." No, we didn't - the mega-corps did - or at least gave us the tools and now somehow try and tell us how to use them.
There are other models in advertising (as the above article suggests) and distribution that simply work if the industry wasn't so megalomaniac about it's control. I just wish our reps in Congress understood this better. After all, don't we have enough people in jail already?
I don't know. If the onboard CPU cooler is efficient enough it shouldn't matter.
Take a closer look at the video and some of the pictures that have been floating around. There is a Dell-style hood that encloses the CPU/Cooler and a fan at the back of the unit. I'd say the heat is totally managable.
...no matter how many times it crashes, no matter how insecure, no matter how slow, no matter how restrictive the license, no matter how clumsy the interface, it will...
In fact...
SELL?
Don't completely disregard the power of MS. Hell, somehow Windows has always gotten away with it!
I think part of the issue here is to know precisely what parts of OOo use Java and go from there. Are they necessary to the functioning of OOo or just frilly extras?
In all the posts here, I haven't read anything about how this affects the Mac version or vice-versa. Since OOo is not directly supported on the Mac, NeoOffice has stepped up... With increased use of Java again!
There was a large chunk of code donated to OOo from the NeoOffice/J project. Anyone want to take bets on how much of it was Java-based?
"What Would You Ask For in Copyright Law?"
How about... Oh, I don't know: Fairness? Balance? Reasonable limits?
...send care of MOG's home.
As in, where do I send all the subscriptions to 'Cat Fancy' again?
Actually there are some very real similarities. For instance, my son has a very difficult time understanding social nuances and tends to take things quite literally. It isn't that he doesn't have a sense of humor - it's just that it's very different from what most people relate to. In short, it's funny what he finds 'funny'.
:)
Benji didn't struggle with speech because he couldn't mentally or physically do it. It was a communication issue on a whole different level. He struggled because in his mind he didn't understand WHY we just didn't KNOW what he wanted (a child's primary purpose for speech is to ask for things). Speech simply didn't seem necessary to him. Once he realized that asking for things got him somewhere, the speech came very quickly. This is the kind of thing early intervention is great for.
He has trouble relating to 'normal' people and this is what I got out of the article. In this particular way, my son is exactly like Mr. Cohen. Autism has many different levels and types - some more like Asperger's than others. My son's type is considered NOS - 'Not Otherwise Specified' which basically means, "Hey! We don't know either!"
It was great to read this article as it gives me hope. My own son has a similar form of Autism and although I've been able to 'get into his head' to understand him better, I know that others won't have the patience or the understanding to do the same.
And on a further note, I can tell you from experience that early intervention really helps ALOT! My son's progress is such that he is almost ready to join full time with his second grade class. Two years ago he was still struggling with speech.
Hillary, puleeease!
Oh you've got to be kidding me. I guess it's only a monopoly when your own monopoly gets competition. I hope Steve Jobs responds by getting a coalition of other MP3 makers/ music distributors together to fight these folks in Washington.
You realize of course that if Apple, Napster, and others don't defend themselves by going on the offensive, they're toast. After all the music and movie industry OWNS Congress. It is clear from Rosen's statement that they want 'all Apple's base' to belong to the RIAA first and no doubt everyone else's too...
...we could give South Florida it's own domain (so we can block it)!
.sfl...
Call it
Don't mention that it's free - that's the LAST thing you should mention. Let it stand and compare on it's own BEFORE you mention price.
Demontrate it's ability to work WITH MS Office - not necessarily replace it. Believe me, they'll come to that conclusion on their own.
.DOC is NOT a standard. It's not even a format that's 100% interchangable between different versions of Word/Works. And let's not go there about the foreign (mainly Asian) troubles with compatibility.
MS thrives on changing it just enough to force people into buying the newest versions.
Go OOo!
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it true that no one FORCES anyone to use GPL code in the first place? What's the argument here, really? Don't like the GPL? Don't use the damn code!
This is simply a way for a few to profit from others work. No corporation can buy it exclusively and that must really piss them off as this is an age where corporations simply buy out their competitors. I do expect to see battles fought over this, but I'm hoping that there is still fairness and sanity left in our creaking justice system.
Sell the damn things without drives and have people buy the drives as DRIVES - separately. How asinine this is - especially for a Euro country!
I think one of the larger issues is the extreme power of the industry. ClearChannel controls the most obvious form of 'free' music - radio. This is where most of the kids get their ideas of what music is all about.
Except it's not free after all. Most of the time, we're talking about kids when we talk about music sharing. To be sure, there are plenty of adults doing it, but for the same reason you don't see a lot of 80's music selections at Fry's, the push, the demand is in teen-based music.
And we all know how responsible kids are, right? Not that we shouldn't expect the most from our kids, but they do have difficulty with fine lines. Like the fine line between 'free' radio and an even freer Limewire.
Holding children responsible for hundreds of thousands of dollars each isn't going to stop them from making these choices. After all, kids rarely think anything can happen to THEM, it always happens to those OTHER kids. The industry as a whole needs to take a hard look at what the trends are and find a way to capitalize on it.
It's happened time and time again in the industry and there is no difference except scale now (don't forget, they still control the airwaves).
I too buy from indie labels like CD Baby and Magnatune - but for the mature among us, it's also a political statement. The simple fact is: most kids don't care about that stuff - they just want to listen to what they saw/heard on MTV (they DO play MUSIC sometimes) and the radio and find the quickest way to get it onto their iPods...
Look, the U.S. also has the highest per capita prison population. Wouldn't you agree that you can take the whole criminalization thing a bit too far? Using your example you'd make it an imprisioning offence to do 56 MPH in a 55 MPH zone. Hey! That speeding bastard is breaking the law! Kick his ass!
h tm
Seriously, isn't part of the justice system's purpose to be reasonable when considering punishment? Besides, I wonder if your example of breaking a window is relevant here.
Music piracy isn't so much about destroying someone else's chance to listen to it - regardless of the health of the music industry's outmoded business models. True theft or vandalism would involve that. True musicians do what they do for the love of the MUSIC - and people listen to it for the same reason. No, it doesn't mean musicians shouldn't be able to make a living off of it, but you know something? There was a time before CD's, tape players, vinyl, wax, and an organized industry that is looking to make music sharing of any sort a federal crime.
This same industry sues the Girl Scouts for singing 'Happy Birthday' for God's sake!
LINK:
http://www.s-t.com/daily/08-96/08-23-96/b02li056.
Do you defend this sort of bullshit activity on their part too? Should the girls be sent to slave labor in Mississippi for six days and each get fined $5000 because they danced to the Macarena in a public performance? I would say that most people don't buy into this line of thinking and that *reasonable* limitations on copyright have been breached by greedy politicans and corporations alike.
The industry saturates the airwaves with it's crap and targets children as their main audience. Again, when ClearChannel covers some 70% of the airwaves out there - where does the ability to choose come in?
At the same time, they seek to put walls around their listener's expressions of the music they hear. I'm not talking about law, I'm talking about the very real emotional response that music evokes in the young. And you expect these kids not to share what they love? And then this same industry pushes the worst kinds of depravity and depictions of 'gangsta' activity right on MTV, saying in effect, "Yo, yo, yo! Check it - yeah, it's cool to be a gangsta but DON'T STEAL OUR MUSIC!" Laughable, yo. Talk about mixed messages!
Good musicians somehow made it way back when - maybe more so than now since it appears the 5 majors and ClearChannel drown out what they don't like. The music industry is not supposed to be some sort of musician's endowment (and if it is, it's a total ripoff for 99% of them), but that's what is happening due to the heavy handed legislation and 'education' the industry force feeds.
Sure, copying is hurting the industy, blah, blah, blah. They said that back in the 80's when I made mix tapes for my friends, or (Horror!) my dad taped songs off the radio. Back in the late 60's the industry did everything they legally could to stop cassette tapes from coming into being. In the 80's it was DAT and in the 90's it was CD-R's. Somehow the industry survived our blatant wrongdoing, somehow they will survive this.
And just how do they survive? Simple. CD sales are NOT the only selling thing for most record companies. It's all about licensing! Licensing for movies, for radio, for Muzak, whatever. If not another single CD was sold from today on, the industry would survive it. So in light of this, how about a compromise then? Why not decriminalize file sharing and give the corps unlimited copyright terms for other corps' use? After all, it's not like they don't ensure they get extended copyrights anyway and making music 'free' would ensure greater acceptance among the listening audience.
The above rant written by a musician and a believer in reasonable copyright law.
Hail fellow Pennsylvanian!
Well I'm not sure about the differences. Certainly those school systems with a Mac emphasis will have a more difficult time with this and that's due to these reasons:
1) There is no officially supported version of OOo for the Mac. Yes, there is Neooffice/J, but there is little or no support from the OOo project for what they are doing. At one point, OOo's 2.0 was to have a Mac release but it was canned. My guess is that Sun wasn't too interested and Apple's outright snubbing of the project wasn't making that any better either. The other thing was that with Neooffice doing such a good job, I think the team felt that a separate effort was no longer necessary.
2) There is no StarOffice for the Mac. And that's a crying shame. Again, with no official corporate support, that makes it harder to sell to those who are concerned that the OOo/Neooffice/J projects can't match what MS has done with Office:Mac. Now if MS was to drop Office:Mac, that would be a different story. But with Apple's new word processor/desktop publisher (and other office-type software possibly under development) and MS's effort, Neooffice/J is a harder sell simply because of support.
I believe what needs to happen is Neooffice needs to offer a 'professional' edition of Neooffice/J. Something with direct support options at a price comparable to StarOffice.
It is my goal to insure that Linden Hall School is platform agnostic. I've been finding that it's a really hard thing to do, but it is possible. If a student wishes to bring a Mac (which I prefer actually - less chance of spyware/viruses), a PC, or something w/Linux on it (now THAT would be interesting!), it is my responsibility to see that it can be used in this environment. A lot of other schools make their students buy a particular machine but that's a lot more difficult when you have international students from all over the globe who may not have access to a specific brand or model.
Anyway, great hearing from you!
Yeah, like that's WAY different than previous Dem administrations have been. Tell me, during the 40+ years the Dems were in power, did they not value loyalty, brook no dissent, take no prisoners, etc.?
When the previous Bush administration chose to make a deal with the Dems on taxes you could have counted in MILISECONDS how long it took the Dems to shoot him in the back with the 'no new taxes' line.
The present Bush administration maybe have more refined techniques but please, at least be honest enough to admit that this sort of thing is EXPECTED now in politics from both sides...
Because if it's the home users you are talking about it's pretty much hit or miss. Remember that Dell is primarily shipping machines with Wordperfect and Works. OOo would be a way to get the best of both worlds without having the students trash what they have already.
At least not right away...
Both Publisher and Word have had issues with formatting with spaces or tabs. Change a printer or version of the software and everything goes out of whack.
We learned this fact the hard way when our old secretary left and we upgraded the new scretary with a new computer / version of Word. She put spaces in EVERYTHING (Table? What's a 'table'?) and the formatting was DESTROYED!
Besides, with table in table support, OOo 2.0 is putting a lot of this compatibility stuff to bed.
.DOC IS NOT A STANDARD.
.DOCs correctly than MS Office itself does.
Problems include differences between versions, international issues, and confusion with 'Works'.
Believe it or not, OOo 2.0 does open more
Go figure.