We are all guilty of fucking shit up sometimes. Syntax checking was invented in programming languages for a reason, however it is also assumed that you will fuck up sooner or later. Hence many things have syntax checking built in.
Not my fault/. doesnt have a spell checker.
And just who gets to define "proper" english ? You ? MW.com ? My old english teacher ? Your god ? Language came from somewhere, that means sooner or later it will be adjusted by individuals or society as a whole, deal_with_it. Doesnt mean its right or wrong, but it sure as hell isnt stopping.
Really ? cause last time I checked most employers didn't exactly have a complete reference to how good each school is at teaching each discipline/course/field.
A Degree doesn't mean shite. How does U of Phoenix compare to a community college, how does a state school compare to private, large to small etc. Not all learning experiences or institutions are created equal.
Work is not like school, you cant put something off until the last minute, or try to maneuver yourself out of job requirement X because you kick ass at Y. Most employers (because they pay you) don't let things slide. you are going to do your job no matter what or your gone, no neat and fancy research project to replace a course etc... And you don't get to select what you want to do. Unless of course sleeping under a bridge and not eating sounds fun to you.
If you think college is a drudge compared to real life work, just wait until you endure 5 years of cube hell without any major breaks. College at most (for the average student) is 9 months out of the year with some major vacations in the mix as well. Work ? Try to tell your boss you want to work ~9 months per year, see how well that goes over.
The only jobs I have ever heard of that have "assignments" are clerical positions and grunt work. Most jobs I have dealt with/had/heard of don't have someone hovering over you, no grades, no parents, usually not to much of a boss either. Its assumed you know what your supposed to be doing and are doing it, most employers don't want to run romper-room or pay management to babysit.
Some people walk out of college knowing enough to handle an average computer job. However its becoming increasingly uncommon to see this, has a matter of fact I think the blatant incompetency of most college grads (and the poor curriculum at most schools) is fueling the whole "off shoring" craze.
Unfortunately you may have a hard time competing with those who have a higher education background
Any place that would value "practice" over real world competency is not a place I would choose to work. Last time I checked most schools didn't offer a wide variety of classes dealing with real world situations or software, rather they cater to.com types who need to use WYSIWYG tools for admining a server or developing a program.
Graduating from college with very good grades requires a lot of work, something any employer knows. If an applicant finishes with a 4.0 GPA, it can be safely assumed that they can "actually do the work."
Bullshit. Getting a degree requires work for sure, however so does building a house. Not exactly the same TYPE of work is it ? A degree does not guarantee competency or the ability to work 80/hr weeks because of layoffs, it doesn't guarantee anything other than the fact that the person is willing to learn and tests well. In most work places there are not enough people to babysit the new guy or to explain things with great detail like a teacher would. There also usually is not enough documentation on procedures and internal software you will sooner or later have to munge your way through it. A ton of college grads I have dealt with and trained were completely lost in this respect.
What you say is a little alarming; your assumption that college is entirely worthless when compared to a high school job is entirely unfounded.
When the hell did I say anything about a high school job ? Most people these days graduate from HS at 17 or 18 do they not ?
Oh, and before you apply anywhere in the future, work on that spelling and grammar
I suppose if I was writing a term paper I might give a damn.;-)
Doing research is a wonderful thing, however its not very likely that he is going to be getting a job doing that full time after school. College is spiffy for people who need to "broaden" the way they think.
A college degree proves that you were attentive enough to pass some tests and do assignments, not that you can drudge through the daily grind of a job. Most certainly it does not tell someone that you can learn anymore efficiently than a person who doesn't have a degree.
Kevin Mitnick was and is a social engineer. He uses the fucking term (Hacker) to puff out his chest and act like a fucking ass. Cracking is breaking some type of security on a computer system. Hacking is making something work in a better or more effecient way, sometimes extending the use beyond what the product/idea/system was originally meant for. This does include security, however a "Hacker" wouldnt do malicious things with the system or the data (ie spam, virus's etc).
I recommend you actually learn about where the word came from and stop hanging out in aol chat rooms. w00t !
And the proper use of the word hacker pre-dates the media ideal (also known as market speak bullshit) and probably even pre-dates your being born. Let it go, man.
Credibility, people KNOW I can do this for a living. They dont have to worry about weather I can actually do the work.
Several awards from my employer.
Real Life experience.
Friends
Proffesional contacts. Tons and Tons of them.
And I dont have 60k in debt, and wont be paying off school bills for the rest of my life. I have enough experience to walk into higher level jobs and skip the "entry" level BS.
Life is not lived on a Piece of paper that was givin to you by some organisation that is known as a "school".
I hope you will not confuse me with a java zealot as I am NOT a java guy
Didnt get that vibe.
... You ready to toss all of those winning benchmarks away?
Yes ? I honestly think ALL benchmarks that rely on something other than just X are useless, period. In order for a benchmark to be acurate it must only use 1 variable, the variable being tested, or at least have all other variable's be the EXACT same. This is usually not possible, hence most benchmarks are utterly useless.
You should use what suits your needs best, evaluate what you could use by testing scenario's that are likely to occur in the real world and go from there. Saying java is faster than C is moronic since its technicaly semi-impossible. Some java nut (the person/people who wrote this) wants people to use java more, yipee for him tooting his horn, and thats all this is.
Any language that requires all of the shit that java requires (whats the size of a java SDK now ?) and has that large of a memory footprint is useless to anyone except people who only know java.
If all I have seen is bad java code, then there must not be any good java coders.
Seriously, if you think your logic holds merit, then you must dismiss any and every benchmark you've ever read about that was run on Linux.
Uhh No. You would have to dismiss any coding benchmarks from linux that used g++. Anyone who is worried about the speed differences between the two languages wouldnt use g++, and wouldnt use java. java is a bloated whore of a language. It takes up too many resources for the minor advantage over other similar languages. Not to mention that the average person who knows/uses java couldnt code their way out of a wet paper bag to keep from suffacating.
It is getting faster. but it still has a long long way to go. You got it right when you said the following:
What they do say is, for the benchmarks ran, java was running close to and in some cases faster than GNU's g++ compiler.
Which to me doesnt say a whole frickin lot. Java zealots, now replacing VB zealots and coming to a compusa near you. "Sooooooo How much software do you want to buy today ?"
and I could never ever ever post something thats an opnion on the intrarweb and have people think its a fact.
God sakes man even the clip from the story says "in certain situations" which means: when java is coded by a really good coder and we use crap C code, and a crap C compiler.
Hell parts of java and the JVM are WRITTEN in C++.
Thats all a matter of opinion. On a resource critical operation I could see how dtrace would come in handy, I can also see how ZFS rocks. I however am not an adamant user of solaris, and wouldnt be running something so "new" no matter what.
I Like Sun because Sun is needed, without them we have Intel hardware and not much else. They have their problems to be sure, but who doesnt.
What Unix vendor has not pulled the whole "lock in" thing ? they are/were all like that, Linux is great because it changes (and in many ways aims to prevent) that situation.
Linux was replacing low end Sun stuff sure, but it is replacing ALL low end unix kit thats its main market. Linux is not a common occurance on heavy metal. It will be going forward, buts its not there now (at least not compared to Solaris, AIX etc)
Sun systems are good at what they aim to be good at. There is no "Solve all" solution. Alpha's kick ass in many ways yet the platform is self is dying.
For the vast majority of people (READ: Customers) they wont be running things high end enough for the "Scaling" to come into play.
Linux very much is still years behind in SMP, until the 2.6 series they didnt even have a sane SMP scheduler. Hell it wasnt even fully working til at an acceptable rate til around 2.6.5.
The current SGI "systems" are not heavy metal, they are a ton of smaller systems linked together. Clusters are great, I preffer real systems, reducing bottlenecks as much as possible is the key at this point adding another major bottleneck is self defeating.
Linux does not scale to larger (non-custom) machines than solaris. Solaris's Highest end machine is 106 cpu's. The largest SINGLE machine I can find for linux is 64. (clusters are a whole different ball of wax.)
The only company I have heard of doing anything with machines with more than 64cpu's running linux is IBM, and last I heard you had to run a fucked up version of linux, and pay out the ass for support. Solaris on a 15k, install, configure, done.
Nothing in Solaris 10 "propaganda" kit to get excited about eh ? Firstly let me point out the obvious, solaris 10 is not longhorn its available now, all of the features are usable and functioning. Secondly, have you actually LOOKED at some of the stuff they are offering ? Or are you just some slashbot/zealot who thinks everything non-linux in inherently evil ?
The big features that are new are dtrace and ZFS/Dynamic Filesystem. Not to mention a ton of "little" things.
Oh, and it all worked when the software got released, not 5 revisions later.
So I must be all alone in thinking that someone (Alan Cox?) should just oust linus and become head of kernel development. Then perhaps we can have less of this "community of morons from XXX company" kernel development that has been getting worse lately.
The way Linux has been going over the last year it looks more and more like BSD is going to be the better OS soon. (at the rate linux is going no action is required from BSD, linux will just keep getting worse)
NUMA aint the half of it. NUMA aint even one hundredth of it.
There is the New stuff and the old stuff (which linux is still years behind in; SMP being a big one) I am to lazy to look all of this up at the moment.
This is an epic thing. If Sun does what Sun usually does and makes Solaris available under the BSD style licenses this will boost all unix like OS's. However I think they will end up using a Sun specific license (one that was developed for this specific purpose). I also think they did this because by opensourcing solaris they can start some serious cutbacks, a large amount of the OS can be handled by the community, and this might be a major cost cutting move motivated to save sun's ass.
Solaris has probably the best security and stability out of any of the widely used *nix's. Not to mention the superior threading of the actual OS and its core.
However the article makes mention of using something similar to java's licensing, which is *NOT* open source in any way shape or form. This sounds like another wait-and-see thing from the leader of wait-and-see (although not leading in much else these days.)
IIRC cisco (owner of linksys) was caught using modified GPL code in their wireless routers, they forked it over. They are a fairly large company. (although some people say they didnt fork everything/enough over)
Think of it this way, if a company is convicted in court of using code illegaly whats to prevent the plantiff (code owner) from demanding X money and a *FULL* source audit ? That would be such a PITA for most companies that its just not worth it, Although some will be dumb enough/stubborn enough to risk it.
I'm just interested in finding a way to keep people honest. A perfectly legitimate concern, no?
Right now its on of the biggest concerns from an open source developers POV. IMHO.
If you illegally use the source and it can be proven it negates all laws regarding the possible protection of it. A theif's stolen property is not his, therefor it is not subjected to legal protection. By stealing something you broke the law, and hence waived any rights you might have had regarding the stolen property.
Of course it still has to be proven. Which is where the problem lies (most of us dont feel like spending time reverse engineering proprietary products). However most companies that have their hand caught in the cookie jar will co-operate rather than risk losing millions in lawsuits. (there have been quite a few companies recently that have "given in")
You can make wine on your own, you can also have a home entertainment center, though I doubt it would have dolby surround, unless the cave had really good acoustics. Silk sheets ? have you ever actually slept on silk sheets ? The feeling is nice, but they make your skin smell weird, and if you sweat on/in them it feels icky. you can keep your silk sheets.
I would like someone to explain to me exactly when standing up for yourself became something that nobody should do. Next thing you know you'll be trying to convince me that my life would be better if I let the government do what it wants regardless of the effects on me. What is with this give up and lay down pansy ass crap ? If this asshole was going to kill you he would do it regardless of weather you gave up your items. Its a fucking monumental jump to go from mugging someone for a few hundered dollars worth of junk to killing someone. In the US its a jump from about 5-7 years to life in prison. Yes, the crook is aware of this. If he is mugging you he has planned this and is probably making a life out of it, so she/he is very very aware of the consequences.
thats desktop, not server. More importantly that number cannot be accurate since just about every method of checking that can be modified. (and in many cases it is)
I learned to drive in New York city, and have driven in Washington countless times. NYC is worse. Not only that but people have zero patients for bullshit drivers in the NYC area, I have been honked at and almost run off the road for only going 10MPH above the speed limit.
My anecdotal evidence trumps yours!!!!
Perhaps you should actually do some research about the car in question before you go rattling off about better mileage and trying to selectively quote me, that car uses only a portion of the engine when it is not in use (idle) or not needed (low speeds). Also has I have pointed out for the umpteenth damn time: underpowered ! The Suv's with the V8's in question are much much much larger than the ones with the 4cy, hence why they get worse mileage. I would also point out where I stated "Properly designed". I did not make a blanket statement, despite what you seem to be thinking. Did you forget how to fucking read you inbred cocksucker, or did you never bother to learn ?
all SUV's are horrible with mileage. period. If for no other reason (and there are many) than the sheer fucking size and weiganecdotalht.
And just for anecdotal's sake, do these people who drive 4cy little shit econoboxes ever drive in snow ? (the real, upstate NY style snow, where its measured in feet. not inches) SUV's are a bane, but not because of the engine's.
I am 100% in agreement with you about the bike thing, I am going to be buying a sportster soon (few weeks).
I was actually making the arguement about towing things with a car, I wouldnt recomend an SUV unless it was 100% needed, and in most of those cases a truck will do better.
The only time most modern engine's are extremely inneficient is when idleing (sp?).
The best analogy I could come up with is simple, imagine pulling a boat with a civic, the strain wouldnt be in towing it at a constant speed, it would be getting to that speed.
Driving a car that is built correctly (which for a four person sedan would be a mid-large V6) will prevent a normal person from having to "gun it" to keep up with traffic, and allow them some leway in what they can and cannot do, both with their activities and their driving style.
I currently drive a car with a 220hp engine, I dont have to "push it" to accelerate, as opposed to my old car, a small four banger, which I had to floor to prevent massive speed loss on medium sized hills and to prevent myself from getting rear ended when merging on the highway.
When talking efficiency with cars you have to take more into account than just the engine. For the average driver a mid-sized sedan should have 220 - 250 HP, 350 is overkill. Of course going from a low end Chrysler 300 to the high end is a 12k price increase, so its not something most people will do.
Want a solution ? move to a cleaner diesel fuel like europe has, its not uncommon to see a car that runs on that type of diesel get 50MPG. And all of their cars aren't POS low powered eco boxes that sound like humming birds on crack, despite popular thought.
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Right. Pull the stick out of your ass.
/. doesnt have a spell checker.
We are all guilty of fucking shit up sometimes. Syntax checking was invented in programming languages for a reason, however it is also assumed that you will fuck up sooner or later. Hence many things have syntax checking built in.
Not my fault
And just who gets to define "proper" english ? You ? MW.com ? My old english teacher ? Your god ? Language came from somewhere, that means sooner or later it will be adjusted by individuals or society as a whole, deal_with_it. Doesnt mean its right or wrong, but it sure as hell isnt stopping.
Really ? cause last time I checked most employers didn't exactly have a complete reference to how good each school is at teaching each discipline/course/field.
... And you don't get to select what you want to do. Unless of course sleeping under a bridge and not eating sounds fun to you.
A Degree doesn't mean shite. How does U of Phoenix compare to a community college, how does a state school compare to private, large to small etc. Not all learning experiences or institutions are created equal.
Work is not like school, you cant put something off until the last minute, or try to maneuver yourself out of job requirement X because you kick ass at Y. Most employers (because they pay you) don't let things slide. you are going to do your job no matter what or your gone, no neat and fancy research project to replace a course etc
If you think college is a drudge compared to real life work, just wait until you endure 5 years of cube hell without any major breaks. College at most (for the average student) is 9 months out of the year with some major vacations in the mix as well. Work ? Try to tell your boss you want to work ~9 months per year, see how well that goes over.
The only jobs I have ever heard of that have "assignments" are clerical positions and grunt work. Most jobs I have dealt with/had/heard of don't have someone hovering over you, no grades, no parents, usually not to much of a boss either. Its assumed you know what your supposed to be doing and are doing it, most employers don't want to run romper-room or pay management to babysit.
Some people walk out of college knowing enough to handle an average computer job. However its becoming increasingly uncommon to see this, has a matter of fact I think the blatant incompetency of most college grads (and the poor curriculum at most schools) is fueling the whole "off shoring" craze.
Unfortunately you may have a hard time competing with those who have a higher education background
.com types who need to use WYSIWYG tools for admining a server or developing a program.
;-)
Any place that would value "practice" over real world competency is not a place I would choose to work. Last time I checked most schools didn't offer a wide variety of classes dealing with real world situations or software, rather they cater to
Graduating from college with very good grades requires a lot of work, something any employer knows. If an applicant finishes with a 4.0 GPA, it can be safely assumed that they can "actually do the work."
Bullshit. Getting a degree requires work for sure, however so does building a house. Not exactly the same TYPE of work is it ? A degree does not guarantee competency or the ability to work 80/hr weeks because of layoffs, it doesn't guarantee anything other than the fact that the person is willing to learn and tests well. In most work places there are not enough people to babysit the new guy or to explain things with great detail like a teacher would. There also usually is not enough documentation on procedures and internal software you will sooner or later have to munge your way through it. A ton of college grads I have dealt with and trained were completely lost in this respect.
What you say is a little alarming; your assumption that college is entirely worthless when compared to a high school job is entirely unfounded.
When the hell did I say anything about a high school job ? Most people these days graduate from HS at 17 or 18 do they not ?
Oh, and before you apply anywhere in the future, work on that spelling and grammar
I suppose if I was writing a term paper I might give a damn.
Doing research is a wonderful thing, however its not very likely that he is going to be getting a job doing that full time after school. College is spiffy for people who need to "broaden" the way they think.
A college degree proves that you were attentive enough to pass some tests and do assignments, not that you can drudge through the daily grind of a job. Most certainly it does not tell someone that you can learn anymore efficiently than a person who doesn't have a degree.
Kevin Mitnick was and is a social engineer. He uses the fucking term (Hacker) to puff out his chest and act like a fucking ass. Cracking is breaking some type of security on a computer system. Hacking is making something work in a better or more effecient way, sometimes extending the use beyond what the product/idea/system was originally meant for. This does include security, however a "Hacker" wouldnt do malicious things with the system or the data (ie spam, virus's etc).
I recommend you actually learn about where the word came from and stop hanging out in aol chat rooms. w00t !
Hackers By Steven Levy.
And the proper use of the word hacker pre-dates the media ideal (also known as market speak bullshit) and probably even pre-dates your being born. Let it go, man.
Things I have gotten from Working since I was 18:
Credibility, people KNOW I can do this for a living. They dont have to worry about weather I can actually do the work.
Several awards from my employer.
Real Life experience.
Friends
Proffesional contacts. Tons and Tons of them.
And I dont have 60k in debt, and wont be paying off school bills for the rest of my life. I have enough experience to walk into higher level jobs and skip the "entry" level BS.
Life is not lived on a Piece of paper that was givin to you by some organisation that is known as a "school".
100% agreed. I knew that would be the case BEFORE I actually read the benchmark.
I agree with most of what your saying, just not all of it. (see other post)
I hope you will not confuse me with a java zealot as I am NOT a java guy
... You ready to toss all of those winning benchmarks away?
Didnt get that vibe.
Yes ? I honestly think ALL benchmarks that rely on something other than just X are useless, period. In order for a benchmark to be acurate it must only use 1 variable, the variable being tested, or at least have all other variable's be the EXACT same. This is usually not possible, hence most benchmarks are utterly useless.
You should use what suits your needs best, evaluate what you could use by testing scenario's that are likely to occur in the real world and go from there. Saying java is faster than C is moronic since its technicaly semi-impossible. Some java nut (the person/people who wrote this) wants people to use java more, yipee for him tooting his horn, and thats all this is.
Any language that requires all of the shit that java requires (whats the size of a java SDK now ?) and has that large of a memory footprint is useless to anyone except people who only know java.
If all I have seen is bad java code, then there must not be any good java coders.
Seriously, if you think your logic holds merit, then you must dismiss any and every benchmark you've ever read about that was run on Linux.
Uhh No. You would have to dismiss any coding benchmarks from linux that used g++. Anyone who is worried about the speed differences between the two languages wouldnt use g++, and wouldnt use java. java is a bloated whore of a language. It takes up too many resources for the minor advantage over other similar languages. Not to mention that the average person who knows/uses java couldnt code their way out of a wet paper bag to keep from suffacating.
It is getting faster. but it still has a long long way to go. You got it right when you said the following:
What they do say is, for the benchmarks ran, java was running close to and in some cases faster than GNU's g++ compiler.
Which to me doesnt say a whole frickin lot. Java zealots, now replacing VB zealots and coming to a compusa near you. "Sooooooo How much software do you want to buy today ?"
and I could never ever ever post something thats an opnion on the intrarweb and have people think its a fact.
God sakes man even the clip from the story says "in certain situations" which means: when java is coded by a really good coder and we use crap C code, and a crap C compiler.
Hell parts of java and the JVM are WRITTEN in C++.
Thats all a matter of opinion. On a resource critical operation I could see how dtrace would come in handy, I can also see how ZFS rocks. I however am not an adamant user of solaris, and wouldnt be running something so "new" no matter what.
I Like Sun because Sun is needed, without them we have Intel hardware and not much else. They have their problems to be sure, but who doesnt.
What Unix vendor has not pulled the whole "lock in" thing ? they are/were all like that, Linux is great because it changes (and in many ways aims to prevent) that situation.
Linux was replacing low end Sun stuff sure, but it is replacing ALL low end unix kit thats its main market. Linux is not a common occurance on heavy metal. It will be going forward, buts its not there now (at least not compared to Solaris, AIX etc)
Sun systems are good at what they aim to be good at. There is no "Solve all" solution. Alpha's kick ass in many ways yet the platform is self is dying.
For the vast majority of people (READ: Customers) they wont be running things high end enough for the "Scaling" to come into play.
Linux very much is still years behind in SMP, until the 2.6 series they didnt even have a sane SMP scheduler. Hell it wasnt even fully working til at an acceptable rate til around 2.6.5.
The current SGI "systems" are not heavy metal, they are a ton of smaller systems linked together. Clusters are great, I preffer real systems, reducing bottlenecks as much as possible is the key at this point adding another major bottleneck is self defeating.
Linux does not scale to larger (non-custom) machines than solaris. Solaris's Highest end machine is 106 cpu's. The largest SINGLE machine I can find for linux is 64. (clusters are a whole different ball of wax.)
The only company I have heard of doing anything with machines with more than 64cpu's running linux is IBM, and last I heard you had to run a fucked up version of linux, and pay out the ass for support. Solaris on a 15k, install, configure, done.
Nothing in Solaris 10 "propaganda" kit to get excited about eh ? Firstly let me point out the obvious, solaris 10 is not longhorn its available now, all of the features are usable and functioning. Secondly, have you actually LOOKED at some of the stuff they are offering ? Or are you just some slashbot/zealot who thinks everything non-linux in inherently evil ?
The big features that are new are dtrace and ZFS/Dynamic Filesystem. Not to mention a ton of "little" things.
Oh, and it all worked when the software got released, not 5 revisions later.
So I must be all alone in thinking that someone (Alan Cox?) should just oust linus and become head of kernel development. Then perhaps we can have less of this "community of morons from XXX company" kernel development that has been getting worse lately.
The way Linux has been going over the last year it looks more and more like BSD is going to be the better OS soon. (at the rate linux is going no action is required from BSD, linux will just keep getting worse)
you dont know a damn thing about solaris do you ?
NUMA aint the half of it. NUMA aint even one hundredth of it.
There is the New stuff and the old stuff (which linux is still years behind in; SMP being a big one) I am to lazy to look all of this up at the moment.
This is an epic thing. If Sun does what Sun usually does and makes Solaris available under the BSD style licenses this will boost all unix like OS's. However I think they will end up using a Sun specific license (one that was developed for this specific purpose). I also think they did this because by opensourcing solaris they can start some serious cutbacks, a large amount of the OS can be handled by the community, and this might be a major cost cutting move motivated to save sun's ass.
Solaris has probably the best security and stability out of any of the widely used *nix's. Not to mention the superior threading of the actual OS and its core.
However the article makes mention of using something similar to java's licensing, which is *NOT* open source in any way shape or form. This sounds like another wait-and-see thing from the leader of wait-and-see (although not leading in much else these days.)
IIRC cisco (owner of linksys) was caught using modified GPL code in their wireless routers, they forked it over. They are a fairly large company. (although some people say they didnt fork everything/enough over)
Think of it this way, if a company is convicted in court of using code illegaly whats to prevent the plantiff (code owner) from demanding X money and a *FULL* source audit ? That would be such a PITA for most companies that its just not worth it, Although some will be dumb enough/stubborn enough to risk it.
I'm just interested in finding a way to keep people honest. A perfectly legitimate concern, no?
Right now its on of the biggest concerns from an open source developers POV. IMHO.
If you illegally use the source and it can be proven it negates all laws regarding the possible protection of it. A theif's stolen property is not his, therefor it is not subjected to legal protection. By stealing something you broke the law, and hence waived any rights you might have had regarding the stolen property.
Of course it still has to be proven. Which is where the problem lies (most of us dont feel like spending time reverse engineering proprietary products). However most companies that have their hand caught in the cookie jar will co-operate rather than risk losing millions in lawsuits. (there have been quite a few companies recently that have "given in")
the GPL prevents things like that from happening. You should read the GPL to avoid making common misconceptions more prevelant.
GPL
You can make wine on your own, you can also have a home entertainment center, though I doubt it would have dolby surround, unless the cave had really good acoustics. Silk sheets ? have you ever actually slept on silk sheets ? The feeling is nice, but they make your skin smell weird, and if you sweat on/in them it feels icky. you can keep your silk sheets.
I would like someone to explain to me exactly when standing up for yourself became something that nobody should do. Next thing you know you'll be trying to convince me that my life would be better if I let the government do what it wants regardless of the effects on me. What is with this give up and lay down pansy ass crap ? If this asshole was going to kill you he would do it regardless of weather you gave up your items. Its a fucking monumental jump to go from mugging someone for a few hundered dollars worth of junk to killing someone. In the US its a jump from about 5-7 years to life in prison. Yes, the crook is aware of this. If he is mugging you he has planned this and is probably making a life out of it, so she/he is very very aware of the consequences.
thats desktop, not server. More importantly that number cannot be accurate since just about every method of checking that can be modified. (and in many cases it is)
My anecdotal evidence trumps yours.
Maybe in your all to small mind.
I learned to drive in New York city, and have driven in Washington countless times. NYC is worse. Not only that but people have zero patients for bullshit drivers in the NYC area, I have been honked at and almost run off the road for only going 10MPH above the speed limit.
My anecdotal evidence trumps yours!!!!
Perhaps you should actually do some research about the car in question before you go rattling off about better mileage and trying to selectively quote me, that car uses only a portion of the engine when it is not in use (idle) or not needed (low speeds). Also has I have pointed out for the umpteenth damn time: underpowered ! The Suv's with the V8's in question are much much much larger than the ones with the 4cy, hence why they get worse mileage. I would also point out where I stated "Properly designed". I did not make a blanket statement, despite what you seem to be thinking. Did you forget how to fucking read you inbred cocksucker, or did you never bother to learn ?
all SUV's are horrible with mileage. period. If for no other reason (and there are many) than the sheer fucking size and weiganecdotalht.
And just for anecdotal's sake, do these people who drive 4cy little shit econoboxes ever drive in snow ? (the real, upstate NY style snow, where its measured in feet. not inches) SUV's are a bane, but not because of the engine's.
Hey dipshit, its not a fucking truck. RTFP !!
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Next time you deciede to jump into a damn conversation read the whole fucking thread and do some damn research. jackass.
Your one to be talking about facts.
I am 100% in agreement with you about the bike thing, I am going to be buying a sportster soon (few weeks).
I was actually making the arguement about towing things with a car, I wouldnt recomend an SUV unless it was 100% needed, and in most of those cases a truck will do better.
The only time most modern engine's are extremely inneficient is when idleing (sp?).
The best analogy I could come up with is simple, imagine pulling a boat with a civic, the strain wouldnt be in towing it at a constant speed, it would be getting to that speed.
Driving a car that is built correctly (which for a four person sedan would be a mid-large V6) will prevent a normal person from having to "gun it" to keep up with traffic, and allow them some leway in what they can and cannot do, both with their activities and their driving style.
I currently drive a car with a 220hp engine, I dont have to "push it" to accelerate, as opposed to my old car, a small four banger, which I had to floor to prevent massive speed loss on medium sized hills and to prevent myself from getting rear ended when merging on the highway.
When talking efficiency with cars you have to take more into account than just the engine. For the average driver a mid-sized sedan should have 220 - 250 HP, 350 is overkill. Of course going from a low end Chrysler 300 to the high end is a 12k price increase, so its not something most people will do.
Want a solution ? move to a cleaner diesel fuel like europe has, its not uncommon to see a car that runs on that type of diesel get 50MPG. And all of their cars aren't POS low powered eco boxes that sound like humming birds on crack, despite popular thought.