Not sure if you have any idea what your talking about. The 300 series with the big ass engine V8 new hemi get 26MPG on the highway.
That is about average these days, and the "econobox" cars like the Civic (not including hybrid) get about 30 - 35MPG on the highway (the high end civic si being 30MPG). a whopping 4 - 9 miles per gallon increase.
Not to mention you can't tow a damn thing with a civic, and forget about merging onto the highway with four passengers as well.
more HP != worse gas mileage. It can if the car is geared towards performance, but thats not always the case. Any car thats in the 22MPG + range is fine. above 32MPG is outstanding.
Are we all supposed to get in a circle and sing hymns or some shit ? live in the exact same house, marry the exact same person and drive the exact same cars ? Not to mention having the exact same wants/uses for those cars ?
There is pointless - SUV, and there is slight overkill (350 HP) which would you preffer ? (oh and the reason most SUV's get bad mileage is because the engines are typically underpowered.)
I was under the impression (possibly mistaken) that the ipod mini's were using a very small regular hard drive, not a CF based storage ??
I was not saying (sorry if it seemed that way) that the ipod or ipod mini would die upon contact. The do however have much much shorter lifetime's (and higher pricetags). The lifetime will be lower for anything that has moving parts, although the weight of the heads and platters might help small vibrations over time will lead to life degradation.
I would actually like to see an unbiased study on this, the life expectancy of mp3/ogg/wma portables and the effect of certain conditions on that life expectancy.
Also of note: I have dropped several actual hard drives varying distances and have had no "just dead" drive's, most of them did however die within 6 months (with one exception.)
"anyone who rides a bike is worthy of friends status." -- you mean anyone with a BRAIN that rides a bike is worth friends status right.... I mean we did cover the whole "teen on a crotch rocket" thing already;-)
Really I dont think you (or at least I cant, at least nothing I wouldnt hear through the headphones anyway.) can hear shit anyway once you get up to high enough speeds. I kind of equate it with a car driver going 70+ with the windows down, can't really hear much, besides wind noise.
I also might venture to point out: I drive at night when I make long trips, less assholes on the road = better time, more fun, less likely to get cut off by a soccer mom in an SUV.
yes I agree to an extent, with one additional point: do stupid shit on a bike and you WILL die sooner or later (more likely sooner). No airbags or any other "save the stupids" technology.
The spike would be nice, add into that some kind of AI system that shocks the shit out of drivers that do stupid things, like cut you off, or fail to signal on lane changes.
You know what the funny thing about this whole discussion is ? The people who always proclaim motorcycles to be dangerous know nothing about them.
If your riding a crotch rocket (My prefference, like the full fairing style) you can always grab a messanger bag, the larger ones hold about as much as saddle bags on your typical cruiser/hog/touring bike. I recomend timbuk2.
I live in the land of bad drivers (upstate NY. blame the snow if you must) so I have a very keen idea on what it takes to be a good driver (both car and bike) though generally I am not a very good bike rider (yet!) I consider myself a good car driver, I would much much rather be on the road with bikers and truckers than the average joe/jane.
I agree 100% with all of the above stated advantages and one other biggie you did miss: Cost of repairs and ease of repairs. Even with a similar failure rate the cost of repairs is far far less than a car, even less if you do it yourself.
I am still kinda getting used to the missing music thing (I am a full fledged audio nut) working on mounting some small headphones into my helmet and getting a solid state mp3 player (no moving parts) although I wont use it on a daily basis those 12 hour drives can get a bit tedious without tunes.
no arguement here. but just because a morons drives it doesnt make it more dangerous, it makes the moron + it more dangerous.
of course I think everyone should be required to drive ONLY a motorcycle for at least 4 years, this way the morons will be weeded out. Like to talk on the cell phone ? drive an SUV to feel "above traffic" ? you die on a bike. its that simple. no fucking multi-tasking in the 3000lb wrecking ball.
perhaps thats because an inexperienced driver in a car is far far far more protected than one on a motorcycle.
That might also point out that a moron driving a car (or an SUV for that matter) is probably a large contributor to motorcycle fatalities.
An experienced motorcycle rider (5 or more years) compared to an experienced car driver (5 or more years) is much much more safe, however it is the lack of attention paid to driving by the car driver (cell phone, smoking, eating, drinking etc) that leads to a motorcycle being a more dangerous thing to drive.
That being said, I would be one hell of a lot happier if everyone drove motorcycles instead of SUV's (and less so cars).
Last I checked that money was coming from the students, taxpayers, and ex-students. Last I checked students weren't given an option regarding how they wanted their money spent (library, computer room, sports etc).
Universities are not limited to learning hence dorms, cafeterias, sports complex's and other recreational activities. Universities are about culture as well, and mp3's, p2p etc are now part of our culture. Evolve.
you wanna make a bet on that ? "Those people more often than not are CS/IT graduates."
Most CS/IT grads I know hardly understand the material and are in it for the quick buck, not only that but they also tend to think they know more than they actually do. Don't make the mistake of thinking that someone who didnt get a degree doesnt understand how the "computer/compiler/OS works" more likely they know how it works and have actually used it, as opposed to listening to someone talk about it, then hypothisizing in some paper about how it might work.
IT is a skilled trade, like a plumber or carpenter. 95% of the people in this field dont need a degree they just need some experience, perhaps a year worth of trade school. most CS/IT degree's aren't worth the paper they are printed on to anyone except some PHB asshole who has no idea what they (the CS/IT person) are doing anyway
where do you live ? if your in a major city and you want to own a home you are in the completly wrong market, you can't be in IT and live in a large city and own a home. only 2 out of 3 right now is good.
if someone that has been in the industry for 8 years doesnt know it, then it is not needed.
I have yet to see a mid level non tech school that has a comp sci department or degree course worth a damn. They teach absolutely assanine shit that very few people use, rather than the things people need to know. If medical schools were run the same way the life expectancy of an american would be 30 years lower.
"You can't make money on something you give away for free"
I don't think the goal is to turn into the allstate or geico of the software world, I think it is more along the lines of getting the PHB's of the world to listen, and have some actual backing. (even if it isn't a lot) Its all paper to the higher ups of the world, and this sure as hell isn't aimed at your average perl hack.
people who work back room jobs, like shipping clerks, or file managers, or secretaries.
A ton of older apps (early 90's, late 80's) run on nothing but DOS or DOS like platforms, why ? because they "just work" and all the shinny happy GUI crap usually doesnt.
GAIM means Gnome Instant Messaging Client you ass, but perhaps you should heed your own message and call it Aol Instant Messanger instead of AIM, or Internet Explorer instead of IE and so on and so forth.
The names are not the problem, its people who dont want to learn. There should be a test required to operate a computer just like a car. Don't wanna LEARN how to drive: dont drive.
And if an idiot can sit down and learn all the things I do why doesnt he ? perhaps because HE'S a FRIGGIN IDIOT !!! could you be a little more dense in your analogy ? A person lacking intelligence might be able to read and possibly even understand most documentation, but they will not retain it or apply it after a few moments. Thats part of what makes them dumb.
"The simple fact is, Linux and its applications are obscure and cryptic to regular people, and not just because of naming conventions, and not based on whether or not those people come from the Windows world or not.
I am so fucking sick of windows bred morons saying this: Prove it. Its that simple, I have both my parents and one uncle (not to mention countless others whom I know through people or from work) running Linux, and guess what: No fscking problems. Did they need help with setting it up ? yep. Would they have needed help with windows ? Yep. Do they have to call me about the latest virus/worm/whatever ? nope. had any retarded "crashing" or "ultra slow" problems ? nope. spyware messing with shit ? nope. bonzi "uninstallible" buddy or some other shit ? nope.
Red means stop was Taught to people, it wasnt ingrained at birth.
What in the fucking universe makes you people think windows is ingrained in peoples heads at birth ? ctrl+alt+delete ? WTF ? some funny looking yellow guy is supposed to represent an Instant messaging client ? a blue E is supposed to represent the intarweb ? where the hell do you come up with the assanine idea that any (including mac OSX) OS is beginner friendly ? did you smoke some really good shit, or just put a mega-fuck-ton of effort into getting this fucking retarded ? I really wanna know so I can avoid it.
Hey asshole, before you assume to tell us to "de-obfuscate" perhaps you should deal with getting your own chickens in a row. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black....
And *I* like most people (including windows users) choose wHaT I shall and ShalL not put effort into, such as using the fscking SHIFT key. (or conversly learning about what I am fucking doing with the shift key)
Oh and just so we are clear: I am one person who left windows because I was sick and damn tired of the computer fucking shit up when it was trying to "protect" me. I know what I want, not some asshole in redmond. When Linux loses the ability to handle everything from the ground up is when I switch to BSD.
Now go ahead and post your karma-whoring "windows is user friendly, it only took grandma 50 phone calls to get it to work!" bullshit. I'm done.
if thats still true i commend MS for it. however I dont think its true since bill and company have been condemning such things since the 70's.
hacking into systems is one thing, trying to break code is slightly different. what they should have is a bunch of reverse engineers and code breakers sitting in some dark basement (the way we geeks like it) hacking away. what it sounds like they had was a penetration testing team, thats different (and from what I have hear and heard about MS's network I'm not impressed with their work.)
but if they have people trying to break the code I commend them, to many companies bypass this method thinking that code review is the only method. which is wrong, you need to think like the bad guys in order to defeat them.
actually that depends on why you left the keys laying around. the law assumes you being the owner will take certain precautions, more than one person has been found innocent because of things like that.
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Not sure if you have any idea what your talking about. The 300 series with the big ass engine V8 new hemi get 26MPG on the highway.
That is about average these days, and the "econobox" cars like the Civic (not including hybrid) get about 30 - 35MPG on the highway (the high end civic si being 30MPG). a whopping 4 - 9 miles per gallon increase.
Not to mention you can't tow a damn thing with a civic, and forget about merging onto the highway with four passengers as well.
more HP != worse gas mileage. It can if the car is geared towards performance, but thats not always the case. Any car thats in the 22MPG + range is fine. above 32MPG is outstanding.
Are we all supposed to get in a circle and sing hymns or some shit ? live in the exact same house, marry the exact same person and drive the exact same cars ? Not to mention having the exact same wants/uses for those cars ?
There is pointless - SUV, and there is slight overkill (350 HP) which would you preffer ? (oh and the reason most SUV's get bad mileage is because the engines are typically underpowered.)
dont know about you but my cell phone has internet access and google works just fine on that as well.
Also of note is that libraries close over night, the internet doesnt. And last I checked the US had something like 70% internet penetration.
Honestly I don't know. I wouldnt imagine it to be completely free of all NT/VMS code, but you never can tell.
Mainframe OS eh ? sounds an awful lot like VMS ... err windows NT.
Old school fool
got it. thanks.
I was under the impression (possibly mistaken) that the ipod mini's were using a very small regular hard drive, not a CF based storage ??
I was not saying (sorry if it seemed that way) that the ipod or ipod mini would die upon contact. The do however have much much shorter lifetime's (and higher pricetags). The lifetime will be lower for anything that has moving parts, although the weight of the heads and platters might help small vibrations over time will lead to life degradation.
I would actually like to see an unbiased study on this, the life expectancy of mp3/ogg/wma portables and the effect of certain conditions on that life expectancy.
Also of note: I have dropped several actual hard drives varying distances and have had no "just dead" drive's, most of them did however die within 6 months (with one exception.)
actually there is a reason to use one of these: no moving parts.
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Most of the sub 2G mp3 players availible are solid state flash storage, where the ipods are actual hard drives.
Hard drives (dont give a damn about how they are mounted) fail when exposed to vibration, such as running or even riding a subway.
Of course this being slashdot i dont expect many people to be runners
I'll do you one better than that:
Make the Letters glow, just the letters not the whole damn key.
added back.
.... I mean we did cover the whole "teen on a crotch rocket" thing already ;-)
"anyone who rides a bike is worthy of friends status." -- you mean anyone with a BRAIN that rides a bike is worth friends status right
I agree 99%.
Really I dont think you (or at least I cant, at least nothing I wouldnt hear through the headphones anyway.) can hear shit anyway once you get up to high enough speeds. I kind of equate it with a car driver going 70+ with the windows down, can't really hear much, besides wind noise.
I also might venture to point out: I drive at night when I make long trips, less assholes on the road = better time, more fun, less likely to get cut off by a soccer mom in an SUV.
yes I agree to an extent, with one additional point: do stupid shit on a bike and you WILL die sooner or later (more likely sooner). No airbags or any other "save the stupids" technology.
The spike would be nice, add into that some kind of AI system that shocks the shit out of drivers that do stupid things, like cut you off, or fail to signal on lane changes.
You know what the funny thing about this whole discussion is ? The people who always proclaim motorcycles to be dangerous know nothing about them.
If your riding a crotch rocket (My prefference, like the full fairing style) you can always grab a messanger bag, the larger ones hold about as much as saddle bags on your typical cruiser/hog/touring bike. I recomend timbuk2.
I live in the land of bad drivers (upstate NY. blame the snow if you must) so I have a very keen idea on what it takes to be a good driver (both car and bike) though generally I am not a very good bike rider (yet!) I consider myself a good car driver, I would much much rather be on the road with bikers and truckers than the average joe/jane.
I agree 100% with all of the above stated advantages and one other biggie you did miss: Cost of repairs and ease of repairs. Even with a similar failure rate the cost of repairs is far far less than a car, even less if you do it yourself.
I am still kinda getting used to the missing music thing (I am a full fledged audio nut) working on mounting some small headphones into my helmet and getting a solid state mp3 player (no moving parts) although I wont use it on a daily basis those 12 hour drives can get a bit tedious without tunes.
I added you back FWIW.
no arguement here. but just because a morons drives it doesnt make it more dangerous, it makes the moron + it more dangerous.
of course I think everyone should be required to drive ONLY a motorcycle for at least 4 years, this way the morons will be weeded out. Like to talk on the cell phone ? drive an SUV to feel "above traffic" ? you die on a bike. its that simple. no fucking multi-tasking in the 3000lb wrecking ball.
perhaps thats because an inexperienced driver in a car is far far far more protected than one on a motorcycle.
That might also point out that a moron driving a car (or an SUV for that matter) is probably a large contributor to motorcycle fatalities.
An experienced motorcycle rider (5 or more years) compared to an experienced car driver (5 or more years) is much much more safe, however it is the lack of attention paid to driving by the car driver (cell phone, smoking, eating, drinking etc) that leads to a motorcycle being a more dangerous thing to drive.
That being said, I would be one hell of a lot happier if everyone drove motorcycles instead of SUV's (and less so cars).
crotch rockets are only dangerous if the person riding them doesnt know what they are doing, or is riding outside of their ability.
Last I checked that money was coming from the students, taxpayers, and ex-students. Last I checked students weren't given an option regarding how they wanted their money spent (library, computer room, sports etc).
Universities are not limited to learning hence dorms, cafeterias, sports complex's and other recreational activities. Universities are about culture as well, and mp3's, p2p etc are now part of our culture. Evolve.
you wanna make a bet on that ? "Those people more often than not are CS/IT graduates."
Most CS/IT grads I know hardly understand the material and are in it for the quick buck, not only that but they also tend to think they know more than they actually do. Don't make the mistake of thinking that someone who didnt get a degree doesnt understand how the "computer/compiler/OS works" more likely they know how it works and have actually used it, as opposed to listening to someone talk about it, then hypothisizing in some paper about how it might work.
IT is a skilled trade, like a plumber or carpenter. 95% of the people in this field dont need a degree they just need some experience, perhaps a year worth of trade school. most CS/IT degree's aren't worth the paper they are printed on to anyone except some PHB asshole who has no idea what they (the CS/IT person) are doing anyway
where do you live ? if your in a major city and you want to own a home you are in the completly wrong market, you can't be in IT and live in a large city and own a home. only 2 out of 3 right now is good.
if someone that has been in the industry for 8 years doesnt know it, then it is not needed.
I have yet to see a mid level non tech school that has a comp sci department or degree course worth a damn. They teach absolutely assanine shit that very few people use, rather than the things people need to know. If medical schools were run the same way the life expectancy of an american would be 30 years lower.
"You can't make money in patent insurance."
Sounds somewhat similar to :
"You can't make money on something you give away for free"
I don't think the goal is to turn into the allstate or geico of the software world, I think it is more along the lines of getting the PHB's of the world to listen, and have some actual backing. (even if it isn't a lot) Its all paper to the higher ups of the world, and this sure as hell isn't aimed at your average perl hack.
people who work back room jobs, like shipping clerks, or file managers, or secretaries.
A ton of older apps (early 90's, late 80's) run on nothing but DOS or DOS like platforms, why ? because they "just work" and all the shinny happy GUI crap usually doesnt.
mod parent up as insightful.
europe has twice the people (roughly) in about half the space (roughly)
The names are not the problem, its people who dont want to learn. There should be a test required to operate a computer just like a car. Don't wanna LEARN how to drive: dont drive.
And if an idiot can sit down and learn all the things I do why doesnt he ? perhaps because HE'S a FRIGGIN IDIOT !!! could you be a little more dense in your analogy ? A person lacking intelligence might be able to read and possibly even understand most documentation, but they will not retain it or apply it after a few moments. Thats part of what makes them dumb.
"The simple fact is, Linux and its applications are obscure and cryptic to regular people, and not just because of naming conventions, and not based on whether or not those people come from the Windows world or not.
I am so fucking sick of windows bred morons saying this: Prove it. Its that simple, I have both my parents and one uncle (not to mention countless others whom I know through people or from work) running Linux, and guess what: No fscking problems. Did they need help with setting it up ? yep. Would they have needed help with windows ? Yep. Do they have to call me about the latest virus/worm/whatever ? nope. had any retarded "crashing" or "ultra slow" problems ? nope. spyware messing with shit ? nope. bonzi "uninstallible" buddy or some other shit ? nope.
Red means stop was Taught to people, it wasnt ingrained at birth.
What in the fucking universe makes you people think windows is ingrained in peoples heads at birth ? ctrl+alt+delete ? WTF ? some funny looking yellow guy is supposed to represent an Instant messaging client ? a blue E is supposed to represent the intarweb ? where the hell do you come up with the assanine idea that any (including mac OSX) OS is beginner friendly ? did you smoke some really good shit, or just put a mega-fuck-ton of effort into getting this fucking retarded ? I really wanna know so I can avoid it.
Hey asshole, before you assume to tell us to "de-obfuscate" perhaps you should deal with getting your own chickens in a row. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black
And *I* like most people (including windows users) choose wHaT I shall and ShalL not put effort into, such as using the fscking SHIFT key. (or conversly learning about what I am fucking doing with the shift key)
Oh and just so we are clear: I am one person who left windows because I was sick and damn tired of the computer fucking shit up when it was trying to "protect" me. I know what I want, not some asshole in redmond. When Linux loses the ability to handle everything from the ground up is when I switch to BSD.
Now go ahead and post your karma-whoring "windows is user friendly, it only took grandma 50 phone calls to get it to work!" bullshit. I'm done.
if thats still true i commend MS for it. however I dont think its true since bill and company have been condemning such things since the 70's.
hacking into systems is one thing, trying to break code is slightly different. what they should have is a bunch of reverse engineers and code breakers sitting in some dark basement (the way we geeks like it) hacking away. what it sounds like they had was a penetration testing team, thats different (and from what I have hear and heard about MS's network I'm not impressed with their work.)
but if they have people trying to break the code I commend them, to many companies bypass this method thinking that code review is the only method. which is wrong, you need to think like the bad guys in order to defeat them.
actually that depends on why you left the keys laying around. the law assumes you being the owner will take certain precautions, more than one person has been found innocent because of things like that.