Skype is banned at a lot of business's because of its EULA and because of its absofuckinglutely huge security holes.
now lets see here, gmail, facebook, victoria's secret, itms, youtube and the like... not exactly productivity tools. Certainly not needed by anyone at the company. WTF is the complaint ? You cant get paid to surf the web ? Boo fucking who.
Engineer: a person who uses scientific knowledge to solve practical problems
Since I know you were going for the bullshit "must have a degree" aspect of things I will also supply the following: the operator of a railway locomotive person skilled in a branch of engineering, ie mining or construction
You also can get the fuck off your high horse anytime now.
Where to start. Well lets start with asking you exactly what you think getting a degree accomplishes for a motivated and capable individual ? Since it cant be money, you shit all over that. Can't be happiness, since you didnt mention it (though you did imply it). So what does that leave ? Yeah it *might* make them more knowledgeable, but that is largely a by product of motivation.
PHB eh ? Not quite, I'm rank and file, I'm just goddamn good at what I do. Plain and simple. I have a chip on my shoulder because I deal with people like you everyday. You wave a placebo around and never back up your claims. "My degree makes me better" smallprint: in some unquantifiable bullshit way.
There is a 99378412% chance that I can makeup (sorry... generate... I mean compile) statistics that contradict your statistics. Apparently they didnt teach you all that much in school.
And as far as what is moderate vs non-moderate financial success. Bearing in mind that I'm still young (under 30) and I clear well over double the average american *household* income, I'd say I'm doing pretty fucking good. Damn proud. Damn happy.
You know I would settle for people with degree's saying that they felt like it made them more complete, or the experience was worth it. Something personal to them, instead of trying to thrust it in everyone's face like a porn stars cock. "Look at me I'm fucking smart, I'm a snowflake !"
Well we are throwing about bullshit anecdotes: I'm a highschool dropout. No diploma, no degree. I make damned close to 6 figures a year in a reasonable place to live. (read: Not california, or NYC)
What I hate is people who have a degree and automatically assume that they are worth more than someone without. That they are going to earn more, or be happier than somebody with no degree. Sorry, but despite the bullshit they feed you, thats really not true. I know plenty of people with degree's in all sorts of things, and it doesnt make them more intelligent, happier or more well paid. Sure you can take advantage of the opportunities presented to you, or you could chase coeds at keggers, have a sad GPA, cruise through easy courses and act like your entitled to things. I'm going to take a guess and say that out of the millions (billions ?) of college grads out there that a large majority of them are just like the majority of non-college grads: Morons.
So do us all a favor and get the fuck off your high horse. People with degree's kicking those of us without degree's is what started this animosity. If your so intelligent then you would know that the majority of your education was fluff. Crap that is unused and irrelevant and that if you actually wanted to you could learn about those exact same subjects without being a student at a degree mill. I know a lot of people with degree's who can do low level coding, its not exactly a huge market, and not-surprisingly most of them cant do sysadmin tasks like properly configure apache. Then again neither can most non-college grads.
But then what do I know, I've only been doing technical screens for the past 6 months trying to find a level 2 unix admin, and a manager for a team of unix admins. In a shocking development, most people are not worth the paper and ink their degree is printed with (or would have been printed on had they bothered).
Does that mean i shuld tipe lik dis ? U might th1nk sp33k n33ds to 3volv3 but i lik it just f1n3.
Point taken ? Just because morons refuse to LEARN doesnt mean we need to cater to them, popular media be damned.
I'm still waiting on the 128 way Intel/AMD... or anything greater than 16 way that can keep up with the RISC, Sparc or POWER based systems.
When your running apache it doesnt make a difference. If you can get onto Oracle RAC then it will matter less, but for right now there is still a ton of business to be done on the high end of things. Sun's T1 chip is also a metric fuckton better and running web apps. Especially java. 32 threads, low power and so on.
x86 has always been designed for mass use, and as such will usually lose to specialized chips. (see: cell, power6, niagra/t1 and so on)
No, you change jobs when your boss tells you to use a screw driver to hammer nails into place. Believe it or not, microsoft and linux dont always live in the same space. Linux/unix is much more well suited to enterprise backends and massive farms. MS is better for homogenized workstation environments and small workgroup installs where depth of knowledge isnt as important as availability of knowledge.
And when all of the companies that are backing open source (not the least of which is IBM as you mentioned, who's patent portfolio is many times larger than MS's -- and you can bet your ass MS is violating quite a few of big blue's patents.) start slinging their patent portfolio back at MS what do you expect to happen ?
This is a publicity grab thats cake to work around. Most of this stuff is UI based anyway. Microsoft is scared. Ubuntu is growing, its easy and smooth. Vista is not moving as fast as they had hoped.
And if american workers were not constantly lauded for being the most productive (by a sizable margin) in the world I might believe that this is an issue.
Yes but its not rising as fast as income in the west is losing pace with the increased cost of living.
Hence unless the cost of living in the west stops its meteoric pace or somehow china, india and the like start developing their infrastructure outside of major cities and their workers wages start growing even faster there will be a higher number of people in poverty. So yes, driving the middle class in this country into the poor house (just you wait until the housing bubble bursts) while not getting everyone from india/china out of the poor house will indeed result in more people being poor.
Java and.net devs are a dime a dozen. Learn Assembler and C, learn howto really performance tune a system and you can clock out hundreds an hour. As long as computers run C and Assembler at some level (and you can bet your ass were a ways away from that changing) people who know those tools will be in demand. So stick with writing your buggy and bloated Java storefronts by all means.
And you can download documents from the application "suite". Bout the only thing you cant do that I can think of is save some sort of settings file for your google home page, or sync the calendar.
Big difference between vendors being bullied into "offering" a product like what MS did, and choosing to use google. Huge difference in choosing to use google of msn, or yahoo at your liesure and on demand with no real problems and being forced into using one operating system because of locked in formats of data, those previously mentioned bullied hardware vendors and so on.
Exactly. Google isnt more or less reliable. (Actually I would guess more reliable than last months Dell special, but no way to prove it) The same problems that occur with hosted servers that many people share can (and do) still happen to all of those individuals. A huge power surge on the grid can cause data loss and equipment damage, as can hurricanes, floods, tornado's etc. Its not like google was claiming to remove all risk, and its not like most people back up ALL of their data. Whats the next story about, microsoft having a bug that let jimmy's computer get pwned and his data got deleted ? Oh noes !!! Or perhaps its an article about a Seagate drive failing and costing aunt gina all of her photos !!!
Perhaps if you were paying for google to backup your data you might have a gripe. Perhaps if google claimed some level of reliability. They do neither of those things, and the personal home page doesnt even have fucking ads. Get a grip.
No. On top of that asinine suggestion you (much like the ass who posted the article) fail to realize that microsoft only needs to be open (open != open source, a published spec or api would suffice) and standard in order for things like this to gain acceptance. As it stands someone will reverse engineer this and we will have an open source version shortly (far before anything of note uses it).
Or you could stop relying on the government. Pick up a history book, its literally chalk full of instances of the government/royalty/TPTB abusing things like this. What makes you think you can trust the people operating the cameras ? Whats to say that they dont steal your identity using the data they collect. Whats to say they dont start stalking people. You claim this wont affect you, but it will. The sad part is you wont realize it until its too late.
Meanwhile, a huge number of people get a quality-of-life boost from the extra daylight in the evening, which makes it more pleasant to walk home from work, to run late-afternoon errands, or just to enjoy some time outdoors on nice spring and autumn days.
Thats a matter of opinion, and yours happens to be wrong.
I dont worry about text based ads that are unobtrusive. Windows live however will probably support that fucking annoying mouse over pop up windows live "search for this" spam. Plus it still doesnt support pop or imap, doesnt work on anything but ms (and probably only on vista & xp).
Gmail might not be perfect, but its leaps and bounds better than ms live.
There is very little that IMAP offers that pop doesnt offer. None of which would be advantageous to google. Both of which are better than the nothing that ms live is offering.
Of course you can look at gmail via just about any browser on Linux, Mac, your blackberry or palm device, your symbian device, your pocket pc and just about anything else. It has almost no restrictions and has one of the best designed UI's on a webmail program ever.
But windows live works on firefox... on windows. yipee.
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Add into that fact that only Apple has any usable accessories and your in the situation where apple is the only choice.
See: Car stereo controls (ie not a fucking fm transmitter or aux in), alarm clocks, 3rd party docks & remotes, cases etc etc
Yes because so many people who are looking to put unix on the device want to run pocket PC.
Skype is banned at a lot of business's because of its EULA and because of its absofuckinglutely huge security holes.
... not exactly productivity tools. Certainly not needed by anyone at the company. WTF is the complaint ? You cant get paid to surf the web ? Boo fucking who.
now lets see here, gmail, facebook, victoria's secret, itms, youtube and the like
Engineer:
a person who uses scientific knowledge to solve practical problems
Since I know you were going for the bullshit "must have a degree" aspect of things I will also supply the following:
the operator of a railway locomotive
person skilled in a branch of engineering, ie mining or construction
You also can get the fuck off your high horse anytime now.
The US's primary educational system yes. Our on the job training and higher education however are still head and shoulders above anyone else's.
Oh how original. Sorry I dont have a HOA, your fat wife, or snot nosed kids.
Well financed in the respect of budget, not in pay.
Last I checked gov't info workers still got paid like gov't paper shufflers and has such are grossly underpaid.
Where to start. Well lets start with asking you exactly what you think getting a degree accomplishes for a motivated and capable individual ? Since it cant be money, you shit all over that. Can't be happiness, since you didnt mention it (though you did imply it). So what does that leave ? Yeah it *might* make them more knowledgeable, but that is largely a by product of motivation.
... generate ... I mean compile) statistics that contradict your statistics. Apparently they didnt teach you all that much in school.
PHB eh ? Not quite, I'm rank and file, I'm just goddamn good at what I do. Plain and simple. I have a chip on my shoulder because I deal with people like you everyday. You wave a placebo around and never back up your claims. "My degree makes me better" smallprint: in some unquantifiable bullshit way.
There is a 99378412% chance that I can makeup (sorry
And as far as what is moderate vs non-moderate financial success. Bearing in mind that I'm still young (under 30) and I clear well over double the average american *household* income, I'd say I'm doing pretty fucking good. Damn proud. Damn happy.
You know I would settle for people with degree's saying that they felt like it made them more complete, or the experience was worth it. Something personal to them, instead of trying to thrust it in everyone's face like a porn stars cock. "Look at me I'm fucking smart, I'm a snowflake !"
Well we are throwing about bullshit anecdotes: I'm a highschool dropout. No diploma, no degree. I make damned close to 6 figures a year in a reasonable place to live. (read: Not california, or NYC)
What I hate is people who have a degree and automatically assume that they are worth more than someone without. That they are going to earn more, or be happier than somebody with no degree. Sorry, but despite the bullshit they feed you, thats really not true. I know plenty of people with degree's in all sorts of things, and it doesnt make them more intelligent, happier or more well paid. Sure you can take advantage of the opportunities presented to you, or you could chase coeds at keggers, have a sad GPA, cruise through easy courses and act like your entitled to things. I'm going to take a guess and say that out of the millions (billions ?) of college grads out there that a large majority of them are just like the majority of non-college grads: Morons.
So do us all a favor and get the fuck off your high horse. People with degree's kicking those of us without degree's is what started this animosity. If your so intelligent then you would know that the majority of your education was fluff. Crap that is unused and irrelevant and that if you actually wanted to you could learn about those exact same subjects without being a student at a degree mill. I know a lot of people with degree's who can do low level coding, its not exactly a huge market, and not-surprisingly most of them cant do sysadmin tasks like properly configure apache. Then again neither can most non-college grads.
But then what do I know, I've only been doing technical screens for the past 6 months trying to find a level 2 unix admin, and a manager for a team of unix admins. In a shocking development, most people are not worth the paper and ink their degree is printed with (or would have been printed on had they bothered).
Does that mean i shuld tipe lik dis ? U might th1nk sp33k n33ds to 3volv3 but i lik it just f1n3.
Point taken ? Just because morons refuse to LEARN doesnt mean we need to cater to them, popular media be damned.
I'm still waiting on the 128 way Intel/AMD ... or anything greater than 16 way that can keep up with the RISC, Sparc or POWER based systems.
When your running apache it doesnt make a difference. If you can get onto Oracle RAC then it will matter less, but for right now there is still a ton of business to be done on the high end of things. Sun's T1 chip is also a metric fuckton better and running web apps. Especially java. 32 threads, low power and so on.
x86 has always been designed for mass use, and as such will usually lose to specialized chips. (see: cell, power6, niagra/t1 and so on)
No, you change jobs when your boss tells you to use a screw driver to hammer nails into place. Believe it or not, microsoft and linux dont always live in the same space. Linux/unix is much more well suited to enterprise backends and massive farms. MS is better for homogenized workstation environments and small workgroup installs where depth of knowledge isnt as important as availability of knowledge.
And when all of the companies that are backing open source (not the least of which is IBM as you mentioned, who's patent portfolio is many times larger than MS's -- and you can bet your ass MS is violating quite a few of big blue's patents.) start slinging their patent portfolio back at MS what do you expect to happen ?
This is a publicity grab thats cake to work around. Most of this stuff is UI based anyway. Microsoft is scared. Ubuntu is growing, its easy and smooth. Vista is not moving as fast as they had hoped.
AD is still just LDAP with a schema and some tools. They can patent try to patent that all they want, there is scads of prior art.
And if american workers were not constantly lauded for being the most productive (by a sizable margin) in the world I might believe that this is an issue.
Yes but its not rising as fast as income in the west is losing pace with the increased cost of living.
Hence unless the cost of living in the west stops its meteoric pace or somehow china, india and the like start developing their infrastructure outside of major cities and their workers wages start growing even faster there will be a higher number of people in poverty. So yes, driving the middle class in this country into the poor house (just you wait until the housing bubble bursts) while not getting everyone from india/china out of the poor house will indeed result in more people being poor.
Robbing peter to pay paul only works for so long.
Java and .net devs are a dime a dozen. Learn Assembler and C, learn howto really performance tune a system and you can clock out hundreds an hour. As long as computers run C and Assembler at some level (and you can bet your ass were a ways away from that changing) people who know those tools will be in demand. So stick with writing your buggy and bloated Java storefronts by all means.
And you can download documents from the application "suite". Bout the only thing you cant do that I can think of is save some sort of settings file for your google home page, or sync the calendar.
Big difference between vendors being bullied into "offering" a product like what MS did, and choosing to use google. Huge difference in choosing to use google of msn, or yahoo at your liesure and on demand with no real problems and being forced into using one operating system because of locked in formats of data, those previously mentioned bullied hardware vendors and so on.
Night and day.
Exactly. Google isnt more or less reliable. (Actually I would guess more reliable than last months Dell special, but no way to prove it) The same problems that occur with hosted servers that many people share can (and do) still happen to all of those individuals. A huge power surge on the grid can cause data loss and equipment damage, as can hurricanes, floods, tornado's etc. Its not like google was claiming to remove all risk, and its not like most people back up ALL of their data. Whats the next story about, microsoft having a bug that let jimmy's computer get pwned and his data got deleted ? Oh noes !!! Or perhaps its an article about a Seagate drive failing and costing aunt gina all of her photos !!!
Perhaps if you were paying for google to backup your data you might have a gripe. Perhaps if google claimed some level of reliability. They do neither of those things, and the personal home page doesnt even have fucking ads. Get a grip.
No. On top of that asinine suggestion you (much like the ass who posted the article) fail to realize that microsoft only needs to be open (open != open source, a published spec or api would suffice) and standard in order for things like this to gain acceptance. As it stands someone will reverse engineer this and we will have an open source version shortly (far before anything of note uses it).
Or you could stop relying on the government. Pick up a history book, its literally chalk full of instances of the government/royalty/TPTB abusing things like this. What makes you think you can trust the people operating the cameras ? Whats to say that they dont steal your identity using the data they collect. Whats to say they dont start stalking people. You claim this wont affect you, but it will. The sad part is you wont realize it until its too late.
Meanwhile, a huge number of people get a quality-of-life boost from the extra daylight in the evening, which makes it more pleasant to walk home from work, to run late-afternoon errands, or just to enjoy some time outdoors on nice spring and autumn days.
Thats a matter of opinion, and yours happens to be wrong.
I dont worry about text based ads that are unobtrusive. Windows live however will probably support that fucking annoying mouse over pop up windows live "search for this" spam. Plus it still doesnt support pop or imap, doesnt work on anything but ms (and probably only on vista & xp).
Gmail might not be perfect, but its leaps and bounds better than ms live.
There is very little that IMAP offers that pop doesnt offer. None of which would be advantageous to google. Both of which are better than the nothing that ms live is offering.
Of course you can look at gmail via just about any browser on Linux, Mac, your blackberry or palm device, your symbian device, your pocket pc and just about anything else. It has almost no restrictions and has one of the best designed UI's on a webmail program ever.
... on windows. yipee.
But windows live works on firefox