When you say that there is tons of fragmentation in the linux field, I think you're mistaken. Sure, according to linux links there are 78 distributions, but lets face it, there are only a few real distributions.
There is Redhat, which is what most of those other distributions are based on, and appeals to the end user.
There is Debian, which appeals to the advanced user/hacker.
And there are few other distributions like Slackware, which is slowly being replaced by debian, and Stampede, which is still in alpha stage.
So the way I see it, the more contributions to linux the better. Espically coming from a major player like corel, and if you've seen what they've done with their distribution (i saw the demo at LWCE), you'd say the same. I think that we should all support corel, because they're taking a real chance by putting their money into linux.
BTW, their KDE improvements and their Windows Explorer like thing are really cool. ...
If you're living in Florida, on a boat.. You're gonna experience a hurricane. It's bound to happen while you're living there.
In a situation where not evacuating could mean life or death.. fucking evacuate while you still have time. A boat is a lot less important than your life.
It would seems, judging from various sources, that FreeBSD would be able to handle the load of a high profile site more efficiently than Linux could. I have no experience in the high profile/high demand server field, but from what I've read FreeBSD is made for this sort of thing.
Anyone here have any reasons why Linux would be better than FreeBSD in this situation? After all, yahoo (probably the worlds most visited site) uses FreeBSD and seems to really like it.
You see, the PSX2 will have a DVD drive and the ability to attach a modem. And it'll be available for around £250. Well cheaper than most pc's today.
The sega dreamcast (which has been out in Japan since spring) is being released in 3 days. It costs $200, has a modified cd-rom drive which holds more data, and it will have an optional 56k modem.
And BSD has already been ported to the dreamcast ...
There is some debate to weather the internet was born 30 years ago. Some might argue that the Internet was born 16 years ago when the TCP/IP protocall was actually introduced in 1983.
And he still broke the law by breaking into their systems and defacing their web page. They're also charging him with trying to cover up his tracks, altho I don't understand that charge. ...
Heh. You get what you diserve. If you think this kid did nothing to provoke the FBI, check out some of the hacks by Global Hell (the hacking group Chad Davis was affiliated with).
I beg to differ. I realize that parts of Linux we're/are base on BSD code (The TCP/IP stack, NAT, ipfw), but these things are chainging. And example would be, kernel 2.2 introduced linux's own firewalling/nat suite in ipchains.
Linux is already ahead of BSD in the SMP domain, and with 2.4, people will see improved SMP support, USB, firewire, and better IrDA. And the author admits it himself, FreeBSD uses GNU software for "8% of the utilities and 15% of the libraries".
The fact is both operating systems compliment each other, and they're really not that different. And right now, the Linux Kernel development is working faster than the FreeBSD Kernel.
So when USB keyboards and mice become standard, I wonder who's USB code FreeBSD will be using..
Ok. First, Microsoft makes windows. Therefore it's only natural that *their* compiler/development integrates the best with *their* operating system. After all, they wrote it.. they know it's quirks better than a 3rd party company that has to lease info from them. It's a sad fact of life.
Second, the other compilers which you mentioned aren't nearly as much of a universal standard as Microsoft VC++ is. Thats what happens when you have a monopoly, microsoft used their leverage in the OS field to expand into other markets (development tools). Another sad fact of life.
Third, there is now an effort to port Mozilla/Win32 to DJCPP (a free win32 compiler).
And why are "Microsoft users such idiots" because Mozilla is compiled with MSVC++? That question doesn't make sense, but I'll take a stab at it. The average user doesn't really tell which compiler their web browser was compiled with, so they don't really get to choose which development environment it was written/compiled in.
You couldn't be more wrong. I can configure a linux system on 400 megs that could easily match your MacOS system. I think you should actually try LinuxPPC before complaining about how bloated it is.
Try it before you bash it. Those 1gig installs are complete installs. ...
You speak as if x86 architecture doesn't exist. I've never heard a valid arguement for why an x86 isn't a good work stations. And dispite what you say, linux is a perfectly good desktop operating system.
Maybe linux isn't developed enough for alpha, I can accept that. I highly doubt that you've even investigated Linux on a Mac (which *is* what his article is about).
You obviously have way too much money at your disposal, seriously suggesting that people go out and buy an Alpha or a Sparc for desktop use. I've never seen a "decent word processor" for Solaris, yet you praise it so faithfully.
Maybe you should think about what you're saying before you go out flaming linux. ...
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There is Redhat, which is what most of those other distributions are based on, and appeals to the end user.
There is Debian, which appeals to the advanced user/hacker.
And there are few other distributions like Slackware, which is slowly being replaced by debian, and Stampede, which is still in alpha stage.
So the way I see it, the more contributions to linux the better. Espically coming from a major player like corel, and if you've seen what they've done with their distribution (i saw the demo at LWCE), you'd say the same. I think that we should all support corel, because they're taking a real chance by putting their money into linux.
BTW, their KDE improvements and their Windows Explorer like thing are really cool.
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If you're living in Florida, on a boat.. You're gonna experience a hurricane. It's bound to happen while you're living there.
In a situation where not evacuating could mean life or death.. fucking evacuate while you still have time. A boat is a lot less important than your life.
My sympathy to the author of that post.
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It would seems, judging from various sources, that FreeBSD would be able to handle the load of a high profile site more efficiently than Linux could. I have no experience in the high profile/high demand server field, but from what I've read FreeBSD is made for this sort of thing.
Anyone here have any reasons why Linux would be better than FreeBSD in this situation? After all, yahoo (probably the worlds most visited site) uses FreeBSD and seems to really like it.
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With good press like this.. the other 5% is bound to come.. If it hasn't already since that survey was released.
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How are you sure that the user in question didn't log off before you had time to scan them?
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Scheme - Great for teaching Object Oriented programming.. Not too pratical tho.
Perl - Sure there is a steep learning curve, but get them started in a language which they can actually use.
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What about VQF? I've heard good things about VQF but it just never caught on. Anyone know anything about it?
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The sega dreamcast (which has been out in Japan since spring) is being released in 3 days. It costs $200, has a modified cd-rom drive which holds more data, and it will have an optional 56k modem.
And BSD has already been ported to the dreamcast
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Philips has tried their hand in the game console market before with the CD-I. It was pretty much a failure. But hey, I still love my Philips CD-R. :)
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But you can go to http://www.openlinux.org and click on the "Lizard" link from there.
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or why not just lie and say that you developed the crypto in an embassy?
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There is some debate to weather the internet was born 30 years ago. Some might argue that the Internet was born 16 years ago when the TCP/IP protocall was actually introduced in 1983.
None the less, Happy Birthday.
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No. It's not. You've obviously never installed Solaris.
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"On the other hand, BSD tends to spread its legs to whoever wants to use it; any one can do what they like with it,"
Kind off odd for a professional write doncha think?
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Chad Davis is a he.
And he still broke the law by breaking into their systems and defacing their web page. They're also charging him with trying to cover up his tracks, altho I don't understand that charge.
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http://www.attrition.org/mirror/a ttrition/gh.html
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I beg to differ. I realize that parts of Linux we're/are base on BSD code (The TCP/IP stack, NAT, ipfw), but these things are chainging. And example would be, kernel 2.2 introduced linux's own firewalling/nat suite in ipchains.
Linux is already ahead of BSD in the SMP domain, and with 2.4, people will see improved SMP support, USB, firewire, and better IrDA. And the author admits it himself, FreeBSD uses GNU software for "8% of the utilities and 15% of the libraries".
The fact is both operating systems compliment each other, and they're really not that different. And right now, the Linux Kernel development is working faster than the FreeBSD Kernel.
So when USB keyboards and mice become standard, I wonder who's USB code FreeBSD will be using..
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Ok. First, Microsoft makes windows. Therefore it's only natural that *their* compiler/development integrates the best with *their* operating system. After all, they wrote it.. they know it's quirks better than a 3rd party company that has to lease info from them. It's a sad fact of life.
Second, the other compilers which you mentioned aren't nearly as much of a universal standard as Microsoft VC++ is. Thats what happens when you have a monopoly, microsoft used their leverage in the OS field to expand into other markets (development tools). Another sad fact of life.
Third, there is now an effort to port Mozilla/Win32 to DJCPP (a free win32 compiler).
And why are "Microsoft users such idiots" because Mozilla is compiled with MSVC++? That question doesn't make sense, but I'll take a stab at it. The average user doesn't really tell which compiler their web browser was compiled with, so they don't really get to choose which development environment it was written/compiled in.
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You couldn't be more wrong. I can configure a linux system on 400 megs that could easily match your MacOS system. I think you should actually try LinuxPPC before complaining about how bloated it is.
Try it before you bash it. Those 1gig installs are complete installs.
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The machines from VA that I saw at the LWCE we're pretty purrdy.
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I believe we all know the real answer:
while (nt == unstable) {
switchTo.linux()
}
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You speak as if x86 architecture doesn't exist. I've never heard a valid arguement for why an x86 isn't a good work stations. And dispite what you say, linux is a perfectly good desktop operating system.
Maybe linux isn't developed enough for alpha, I can accept that. I highly doubt that you've even investigated Linux on a Mac (which *is* what his article is about).
You obviously have way too much money at your disposal, seriously suggesting that people go out and buy an Alpha or a Sparc for desktop use. I've never seen a "decent word processor" for Solaris, yet you praise it so faithfully.
Maybe you should think about what you're saying before you go out flaming linux.
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That was a perfectly legitimate comment.
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This is serious.. I have no idea why they haven't pull the fucking plug on the box. I'd glad that I never had any cc's on there.
This thing actually works..
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It just wasen't under the GPL. I believe that under the old scheme, slashdot could still modify the code without caughing up money.
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