Crash? What gives you the idea there is going to be a crash?
Is it because Google isnt generating earnings at a rate of 70% Year over Year... no?
Is it because their rival search engines have had such good news lately... no?
Is it because $500 is a lot of money for a stock... no?
So out of curiosity, what bubble are you talking about? And do you have anything substantive other than the hot air coming out of your mouth to back it up?
As sad as this is... Ive actually thought about that too. What follows is my attempt to justify the technology and what must be going on, with what you would see on the screen.
Lets say that Picard(on the bridge) taps his badge to ask for Riker(not on the bridge). This is how that might work;
1)Picard taps the badge to initiate the comm link.
2)Picard begins the link by stating who he is, and who he is attempting to contact.
3)With just a few second delay, the computer could derive from the audio who the intended recipient is.
4)Having cached the entire audio to determine who is the recipient, the ships comm system then forward this cached audi(mith a few second delay) to the recipient.
5)When the recipient hears the request come through on their badge, the link is already established, and there is no more need for a delay.
6)conversation proceeds as normal.
And no fair to the guy who said "you need to get laid". To that I say... "You need to stop getting laid, we have enough friggin people here!"
Are you actually bragging that you have no investment knowledge whatsoever? You do understand that LG is a foreign company. And that with the increasing US debt, the value of YOUR US dollar is becoming worth less and less?
Keep investing like that, let me know how that works out for you. HA.
Its funny how easy it is to take advantage of people when their motivation is money. P.T Barnum would welcome you into his home with a wide smile if he was still alive.
From all the know-it-alls who think that they can 'short' one of these stocks to be on the 'other-side' of the gamble.
People please consider that the posters on Slashdot are NOT very good at trading. Such a lack of knowledge is quite frankly bothersome in a community where so many people analyze everything to the bitter end. Yet, when money is involved everyone thinks they have the secret to making it work right.
Tell me, exactly what brokerage do you use that allows you to short OTC, and.PK(pink sheet) stocks? For the rest of the real world, OTC and PK are legally impossible to short trade legit. One of the exceptions is if you short sell a stock that actually WAS listed and then became de-listed by the exchange it is on. The world of money and finance is as complicated and incomprehensible to most techies, as computers are to most non-techies.
Everyone likes to joke at the person who used the CD player for a cup holder, or cant figure something that comes so easily to you. Then when those people are gone, you make fun of their ignorance. Guess what, any comment about short selling one of these stocks makes YOU the person who gets made fun of when the backs turn. And deservingly so, if you knew how rediculous the comment of 'short-selling' spam stocks was, you would laugh your ass off too. Maybe as much as you did when you first heard the 'CD tray for a cup-holder' joke.
Except that you CANT short pink sheet stocks or OTC stocks.
Do you even realize that YOUR level of misinformation is EXACTLY what these people are taking advantage of?
Except you cant short OTC stocks, which is what almost all stock SPAM is. In fact I have not seen ONE that wasnt an OTC stock, or pink sheet, or whatever.
The SEC has rules about what stocks can be shorted, and what cant. Trust me, I had the same idea, but it is impossible(since no brokerage will be the 'seller' of your shares). Your friend had a good idea, unfortunately, its not something that can be carried out.
This kind of scam has been going on loooong before email, and the rules have already been in place to stop such manipulation. The only person who will profit is the one who buys BEFORE the spam is sent out, and has the bid/ask skewed after the spam is sent out. At that point the original buyer is the one selling to the people who 'think' they have the hot stock tip.
In other words, imagine the most unethical person you can, then realize you have not even come close to the modus operandi of the people who carry these things out...
Ok. It was kind of hard reading yet another person who does not understand that movies are NOT reality. But at times it was mildly amusing, and almost credible. I say almost, because right at the end of the article there is a one line sentence that made me realize the author of this piece has ZERO comprehension of the real world. Most likely because the author is too busy trying to force reality on an obviously non-reality based for of entertainment. The line was this;
Users blame themselves when they can't use technology
Im sorry, but having worked in IT for almost a decade now, I have yet to hear one person who blames themselves instead of the 'stupid computer'. Hell, in this society, we even call car wrecks 'accidents' because nobody has the stones to take responsibility. Yet, this guy somehow believes that people are blaming themselves that they dont know how to use a PC? The only thing I can even think comes close to this is the people who walk around using the phrase "Im computer illiterate" as some sort of badge of honor. To which I always think "If you cant take the time to educate yourself about something you know you should be trying to learn, do you think its a great idea to BRAG about it?"
That one line in the article is more fanciful than ANY of the movie situations presented.
Unfortunately, After Gene Rodenberry's death in 1991, there just wasn't the same writing skill and philosophy around anymore. Sure, Rick Berman had some OK episodes, but mostly not. It was just obvious as time went on that his thoughts were what made the series as great as it was, and even more obvious when those thoughts were gone.
And the two-part episode "chain of command" was probably one of the very best episodes ever written and produced.
The first incident occured on the Bill O'liely show. A recorded show that had the insert at the bottom of the screen describing Foley as a Democrat.
Following that, the AP then makes the same 'mistake', although with hastert included this time. While I agree that it might have been picked up by a cut-and-paste press, that should just show you the lelel of respect that news outlets have for your intelligence. If they cant be bothered to check that what they are reporting are actually facts, it puts a little more light on the fact that they are just acting as shills to the highest bidder.
Its not like this administration has never done this before. Its amazing what a few bucks can do these days.
Perhaps you grew up in this type of atmosphere and find it acceptable, but what you are describing, is in no way whatsoever 'reasonable'.
By your very own words, you fail to see the difference in these 'mistakes'.
I once saw CNN...
both events of which you describe were LIVE programs. Bill O'liely is a recorded show. This 'mistake' also appeared on the AP news wire... Not only describing Foley as (D), but also the now pressured Hastert as the (D) from Illinois. Im not really sure what kind of misleading information a almost imperceptible graphic of an 'x' during a live interview would give you, but obviously we have different thought processes.
Its not short-sighted. They just know there is only so much room on that teet, and they are already there.
Do you remember that Ken Lay was on the VP's energy task force? Do you remember right after that how CA had rolling blackouts due to the 'speculation' in the free market trading of electricity? Do you remember that Enron supplied the energy market that CA was using?
Open your eyes my friend. They arent being short-sighted. They are pissed because THEY might be pulled off the teet you so eloquently speak of.
Work ethic? Yet you see no problem in gleaming lifes lessons from a movie you once saw?
Perhaps what you are seeing is related to people realizing that they are treated as expendable. That the 'ethic' you percieve as having eroded, has simply changed based on more information the individual has about their own place in the world.
Back in the day, people used to work for one company, and get one pension. And they ACTUALLY got that pension. However, in the recent past up to today, most companies use their employees as simple numbers. the employees have awoken to this fact, and therefore have adjusted their ethic to repspond to this type of treatment.
Lets not blame the victim here.
I thank {whatever god you believe in} that america is 'missing' the core values of the older generation. I mean, they got along just fine when;
1)women couldnt vote.
2)minorities were openly discriminated, or KILLED.
3) divorce was unheard of, just stay in the abusive relationship 'for the kids'.
4)Success meant being white.
5)slavery was legal
Someone isn't very good at math...it's extremely improbable that your one vote is going to matter one way or the other.
Someone isnt very good at not being a pompus ass.
What were you saying about 1 vote?
You vote 'counts' in the fact that your choice is represented in the total results. When you cast it, it counts period. It should be no suprise in the US, that people only consider a vote to count only when it could be the deciding vote, as if to say that their vote is somehow more important than the rest. With that kind of education level in a society, is it any wonder that the US gets the leaders that it does?
The 'problem' here is only one in the US. This is what the companies in the US want to do. And this is what the people YOU voted in are going to let them do. So STFU and educate yourself to who is voting for these things in YOUR name.
If your not turned on to politics, politics will turn on you.
Well whoever own the 34/8 subnet, they are getting used as a source for some spoofed packets Im seeing on my router trying to access a high number port. Almost looks like a scan for a Trojan.
But then again, are they really being spoofed? Who can say for sure. Im still keeping in mind that that has been a part of my firewall ruleset for over 6 years, and April of this year was the first month I saw them from that address/port.
I'm surprised the information wasn't classified as relevant to National Security. Weaknesses in computer security are just as bad as weaknesses in physical security.
And there lies the problem with the current administration (one of the many). Weaknesses in computer security ARE just as bad as weaknesses in physical security. However, the powers that be dont recognize the integration of computers in daily life. Sure, they realize they can use them to control, rig votes, and spy an their own citizens. But they do NOT realize that they should pay as much attention to them when it comes time to do the ol' CYA shuffle.
Arent you happy that the people in charge of 'protecting' you still get confused when someone tells them to hit the 'start' button to shut down the computer?
how the hell could a deliberate demolition be pulled off without anyone finding out before or finding actual evidence after?
Well, you show me the people that had access to the wreckage afterwards, and who inspected it, and what they inspected it for. Put simply, if someone HAD inspected it, we wouldnt be talking about 'theories' of what caused the building to collapse. We would be looking at their emperical data and argueing over that.
Such things take rather a lot of setup to pull off
I guess it would be an advantage if your brother was a principal memeber of the board for the company that provided electronic security to the WTC towers...
But hey, why shouldnt I trust a government? Its not like they never lied about things before
All I saw you responding with was an almost verbatim repitition of a NOVA story on the subject of the rafters being the cause of the building failure. A theory that has since been realized to be faulty in many ways, by such 'radical crazies' as, FEMA, and the NIST. For instance, the NOVA video shows nothing of the 47 steel pillars in the center of the building. The pillars are completly left out of the video(actually its a computer animation, you shouldnt be using that as 'evidence' to begin with).
Also, as a result of simply repeating what you have been told(thats science to you?), you seem to be missing the obvious point you are making about the buildings collapse. In one statement, you claim that the exoskeleton of the WTC towers is what supported all the weight(false, 47 center pier pillars did), and when the trusses on those failed, the whole building collapsed. And not a few sentences later, you use fire damage to explain the collapse of WT7. Yet that building was not what you claim to be an 'exoskeleton' framed building.
There are enough questions, and enough contradictory explanations in my mind to warrant further inspection of the conjecture that the US government actually was involved in this, or is at the very least involved in not telling the whole truth. And when you come to argue the point of such questions by demanding science, and then simply repeating a story you heard someone else tell you upon which you did no further investigation on, hardly gives me the impression that you are aware of what science actually is.
Perhaps before you approach different ideas with a condescending attitude of 'lets try science' you should be aware exactly what science is. Dont believe me? Tell you what, you research what I said, and I will research what you said. Although, it may be hard doing research on some of your facts presented, as one of the sources is said to have been 'if I remember correctly'.
You do know that american idol was taken directly from a EUROPEAN TV SHOW called pop idol?
Trying to call the american public 'stupid', along with saying that somehow the abuse of power commited by certain individuals in the US governemnt is to be blamed on the general public shows me all I need to know about your line of reasoning. Otherwise, can you support your argument with something other than straw? Using the phrase 'some people say', or 'some believe', and then countering with your own statement, is a horribly wrongly overused style of debate. You may have heard of it, its called setting up a 'straw man'. The only purpose of which is to knock down, making you look like you are actually debating something.
You believe leaders to be god like figures who are destined to rule over the 'unwashed masses' who dont know any better.
Blowing things out of proportion? warrantless wiretaps, detainment wihtout legal representation, arrest without being informed of your crimes, media used for propaganda, and now PHYSICAL warantless searches as well. Exactly at what point do you think it would be appropriate to stand up for yourself? When the boot is already on your neck?
I hate to tell you, but you ARE necessarily defending what the government is doing. Saying you are 'not necessarily' defending it is to soften your language to fool yourself into believing your own words. Unfortunately, subjective thought matters little to objective reality. Looks like you fooled someone else beside yourself though, as you were marked as 'insightful'. I wonder if it was one of those guilty, stupid, uncaring americans who modded you as such? Maybe it was one of those 'enlightened' Europeans who are smarter because they made 'pop idol' a smash hit in europe first?
Believe it or not, you are advocating fascism. Stop trying to put makeup on a pig and telling me it is beautiful.
Why are they going after google? This seems more like the web designers fault, and not google's problem.
Being as vague as possible, I once did some work for a company who loved the results I was getting them in their page ranking. Then, one of the 'managers' came up and said that one person was complaining about the design of the site. I tried for a week to explain that any changes would result in a drastic drop in our page rank. I've actually studied the google patent filing, and was able to learn some important details that were used in the site constructively to help the ranking.
Since it wasnt my company, all I could do was explain what I thought the results of this decision would be. I ended up 'changing' the page layout to satisfy the clueless management, onlt to see a 15% drop in traffic and a fall from 6/10 to 4/10 in page ranking on google. Did I try to say it was google's fault? Hell no! I knew exactly where the blame was to be placed, and I vocally explained what was going on, why it was going on, and whos decision it was to make this change.
Suprisingly, they no longer question my ability to do my job. And that was shortly followed by a raise after I pointed out that I was very disapointed that I had to associate my name with such crappy performance, that was a result of poor decisions I warned against. And yes, it is VERY difficult to regain page ranking. But not impossible, unless of course your page uses every nasty trick in the book for optimization.
But the part about this company filing a lawsuit against google based on free speech? Is that a joke? It sounds like the lawyers this company hired are about as incompetent as their web designers.
Awww.... getting sick of explaining youre non-reality based posts to everyone?
Was your claim about 'remembering the utility bills from college' bullshit too? Do you honestly think anyone believes you 'noticed' the difference? Giving you WAY more than the benefit of the doubt, at the rates of electricity when you were in college, running a 500W computer, USING ALL 500W NONSTOP would run about $30/month.
You are just another person who 'conserves' because it effects your bottom line, not because wasting resources is actually a bad thing. Money is what you are focusing on, not resources. Dont think you are any different from any other self-absorbed twit who does the same thing.
Your 110% is worth as much as you think it is, this isnt a pissing contest comparing the number of zeros in a bank account. Im sure you have yours figured to the penny though, being how informed you seemed to be about the cost of running an electrical appliance.
(You carry around BIG speakers in an SUV, yet you think that your COMPUTER is what the majority of your electric bill is???) sheesh... ya might want to look at the RMS of those amplifiers you are using...
Out of curiousity, why did you buy a 1500+ sq ft house only to then start budgeting all of your other household items. It amazes me how much status people put on a large house. Its how the phrase 'house poor' came to be. Budgets are funny things, once you break the chain, you realize that budgets are only for people who want to live with more money than they have. Its not what you earn, its what you keep...
Your poor management of finances is probably the reason you openly hope for the bottom to fall out. You just cant seem to get this system right, so you keep hoping it will fail instead of actually trying to work within the one that is all around you. And its almost amusing that you see no irony to pointing out all the 'corporate greed'. I guess it takes the focus away from your own greed.
Sounds like a depressing way to live actually, to actually have to keep track of how much more money you are spending than you actually have. But whatever floats yer boat.
You call people morons because they made 300% profit on their investment?
Whatever makes you feel like your still the most important person in the world and everyone agrees with you... keep on keepin on.
Some people actually have jobs, and are able to have something called 'savings'. And some of those people do research and invest in companies with that money expecting a return on their investment. This is how the world of money works. I guess you are holding out for social security to pay for your twilight years though...
Personally, this moron will be happy when he can retire at 35, because I have been one of those 'morons' with a plan for my money.
I think you would be surpised at how many people here DO own stock in GOOG. So, maybe people are referring to GOOG because thats how they see it in their holdings, not because its suddenly cool and everyone is supposed to be voluntarily as broke as you and look down their noses at the world of money.
In other words, you are just as much of a weasel to look down your nose at someone with money, as someone with wealth would be too look down their nose at you. Tell me, why is your 'attitude' better? Im asking you a serious question. Whats it getting you? seriously. Class discrimination goes both ways, remember that the next time the guy in the BMW chuckles at you as he drives by, while you are doing the same at him...
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Crash? What gives you the idea there is going to be a crash?
Is it because Google isnt generating earnings at a rate of 70% Year over Year... no?
Is it because their rival search engines have had such good news lately... no?
Is it because $500 is a lot of money for a stock... no?
So out of curiosity, what bubble are you talking about? And do you have anything substantive other than the hot air coming out of your mouth to back it up?
As sad as this is... Ive actually thought about that too. What follows is my attempt to justify the technology and what must be going on, with what you would see on the screen.
Lets say that Picard(on the bridge) taps his badge to ask for Riker(not on the bridge). This is how that might work;
1)Picard taps the badge to initiate the comm link.
2)Picard begins the link by stating who he is, and who he is attempting to contact.
3)With just a few second delay, the computer could derive from the audio who the intended recipient is.
4)Having cached the entire audio to determine who is the recipient, the ships comm system then forward this cached audi(mith a few second delay) to the recipient.
5)When the recipient hears the request come through on their badge, the link is already established, and there is no more need for a delay.
6)conversation proceeds as normal.
And no fair to the guy who said "you need to get laid". To that I say... "You need to stop getting laid, we have enough friggin people here!"
Wow!
Are you actually bragging that you have no investment knowledge whatsoever? You do understand that LG is a foreign company. And that with the increasing US debt, the value of YOUR US dollar is becoming worth less and less?
Keep investing like that, let me know how that works out for you. HA.
Its funny how easy it is to take advantage of people when their motivation is money. P.T Barnum would welcome you into his home with a wide smile if he was still alive.
I never knew northern Alabama(same latitude as bermuda), was considered close to the equator.
Who says the US school system doesnt teach geography? pfffttt
From all the know-it-alls who think that they can 'short' one of these stocks to be on the 'other-side' of the gamble.
People please consider that the posters on Slashdot are NOT very good at trading. Such a lack of knowledge is quite frankly bothersome in a community where so many people analyze everything to the bitter end. Yet, when money is involved everyone thinks they have the secret to making it work right.
Tell me, exactly what brokerage do you use that allows you to short OTC, and .PK(pink sheet) stocks? For the rest of the real world, OTC and PK are legally impossible to short trade legit. One of the exceptions is if you short sell a stock that actually WAS listed and then became de-listed by the exchange it is on. The world of money and finance is as complicated and incomprehensible to most techies, as computers are to most non-techies.
Everyone likes to joke at the person who used the CD player for a cup holder, or cant figure something that comes so easily to you. Then when those people are gone, you make fun of their ignorance. Guess what, any comment about short selling one of these stocks makes YOU the person who gets made fun of when the backs turn. And deservingly so, if you knew how rediculous the comment of 'short-selling' spam stocks was, you would laugh your ass off too. Maybe as much as you did when you first heard the 'CD tray for a cup-holder' joke.
Having fun yet?
Except that you CANT short pink sheet stocks or OTC stocks. Do you even realize that YOUR level of misinformation is EXACTLY what these people are taking advantage of?
Except you cant short OTC stocks, which is what almost all stock SPAM is. In fact I have not seen ONE that wasnt an OTC stock, or pink sheet, or whatever.
The SEC has rules about what stocks can be shorted, and what cant. Trust me, I had the same idea, but it is impossible(since no brokerage will be the 'seller' of your shares). Your friend had a good idea, unfortunately, its not something that can be carried out.
This kind of scam has been going on loooong before email, and the rules have already been in place to stop such manipulation. The only person who will profit is the one who buys BEFORE the spam is sent out, and has the bid/ask skewed after the spam is sent out. At that point the original buyer is the one selling to the people who 'think' they have the hot stock tip.
In other words, imagine the most unethical person you can, then realize you have not even come close to the modus operandi of the people who carry these things out...
Ok. It was kind of hard reading yet another person who does not understand that movies are NOT reality. But at times it was mildly amusing, and almost credible. I say almost, because right at the end of the article there is a one line sentence that made me realize the author of this piece has ZERO comprehension of the real world. Most likely because the author is too busy trying to force reality on an obviously non-reality based for of entertainment. The line was this;
Users blame themselves when they can't use technology
Im sorry, but having worked in IT for almost a decade now, I have yet to hear one person who blames themselves instead of the 'stupid computer'. Hell, in this society, we even call car wrecks 'accidents' because nobody has the stones to take responsibility. Yet, this guy somehow believes that people are blaming themselves that they dont know how to use a PC? The only thing I can even think comes close to this is the people who walk around using the phrase "Im computer illiterate" as some sort of badge of honor. To which I always think "If you cant take the time to educate yourself about something you know you should be trying to learn, do you think its a great idea to BRAG about it?"
That one line in the article is more fanciful than ANY of the movie situations presented.
Yes. The series did peak with the TNG series.
Unfortunately, After Gene Rodenberry's death in 1991, there just wasn't the same writing skill and philosophy around anymore. Sure, Rick Berman had some OK episodes, but mostly not. It was just obvious as time went on that his thoughts were what made the series as great as it was, and even more obvious when those thoughts were gone.
And the two-part episode "chain of command" was probably one of the very best episodes ever written and produced.
More reasonable? Not in the slightest.
The first incident occured on the Bill O'liely show. A recorded show that had the insert at the bottom of the screen describing Foley as a Democrat.
Following that, the AP then makes the same 'mistake', although with hastert included this time. While I agree that it might have been picked up by a cut-and-paste press, that should just show you the lelel of respect that news outlets have for your intelligence. If they cant be bothered to check that what they are reporting are actually facts, it puts a little more light on the fact that they are just acting as shills to the highest bidder.
Its not like this administration has never done this before. Its amazing what a few bucks can do these days.
Perhaps you grew up in this type of atmosphere and find it acceptable, but what you are describing, is in no way whatsoever 'reasonable'.
I once saw CNN...
both events of which you describe were LIVE programs. Bill O'liely is a recorded show. This 'mistake' also appeared on the AP news wire... Not only describing Foley as (D), but also the now pressured Hastert as the (D) from Illinois. Im not really sure what kind of misleading information a almost imperceptible graphic of an 'x' during a live interview would give you, but obviously we have different thought processes.
Link that show the 'mistaken label' all over the place.
Keep smiling, it could never happen here. Just like you have always been told...
Its not short-sighted. They just know there is only so much room on that teet, and they are already there.
Do you remember that Ken Lay was on the VP's energy task force? Do you remember right after that how CA had rolling blackouts due to the 'speculation' in the free market trading of electricity? Do you remember that Enron supplied the energy market that CA was using?
Open your eyes my friend. They arent being short-sighted. They are pissed because THEY might be pulled off the teet you so eloquently speak of.
Work ethic? Yet you see no problem in gleaming lifes lessons from a movie you once saw?
Perhaps what you are seeing is related to people realizing that they are treated as expendable. That the 'ethic' you percieve as having eroded, has simply changed based on more information the individual has about their own place in the world.
Back in the day, people used to work for one company, and get one pension. And they ACTUALLY got that pension. However, in the recent past up to today, most companies use their employees as simple numbers. the employees have awoken to this fact, and therefore have adjusted their ethic to repspond to this type of treatment.
Lets not blame the victim here.
I thank {whatever god you believe in} that america is 'missing' the core values of the older generation. I mean, they got along just fine when;
1)women couldnt vote.
2)minorities were openly discriminated, or KILLED.
3) divorce was unheard of, just stay in the abusive relationship 'for the kids'.
4)Success meant being white.
5)slavery was legal
Exactly what 'core values' do you miss?
right?
Someone isnt very good at not being a pompus ass.
What were you saying about 1 vote? You vote 'counts' in the fact that your choice is represented in the total results. When you cast it, it counts period. It should be no suprise in the US, that people only consider a vote to count only when it could be the deciding vote, as if to say that their vote is somehow more important than the rest. With that kind of education level in a society, is it any wonder that the US gets the leaders that it does?
The 'problem' here is only one in the US. This is what the companies in the US want to do. And this is what the people YOU voted in are going to let them do. So STFU and educate yourself to who is voting for these things in YOUR name.
If your not turned on to politics, politics will turn on you.
Well whoever own the 34/8 subnet, they are getting used as a source for some spoofed packets Im seeing on my router trying to access a high number port. Almost looks like a scan for a Trojan.
But then again, are they really being spoofed? Who can say for sure. Im still keeping in mind that that has been a part of my firewall ruleset for over 6 years, and April of this year was the first month I saw them from that address/port.
Take a look at who owns that netblock.
And there lies the problem with the current administration (one of the many). Weaknesses in computer security ARE just as bad as weaknesses in physical security. However, the powers that be dont recognize the integration of computers in daily life. Sure, they realize they can use them to control, rig votes, and spy an their own citizens. But they do NOT realize that they should pay as much attention to them when it comes time to do the ol' CYA shuffle.
Arent you happy that the people in charge of 'protecting' you still get confused when someone tells them to hit the 'start' button to shut down the computer?
I couldnt have said it better myself. Cheers.
But thats mostly because its still too damn early in the morning...
Well, you show me the people that had access to the wreckage afterwards, and who inspected it, and what they inspected it for. Put simply, if someone HAD inspected it, we wouldnt be talking about 'theories' of what caused the building to collapse. We would be looking at their emperical data and argueing over that.
Such things take rather a lot of setup to pull off
I guess it would be an advantage if your brother was a principal memeber of the board for the company that provided electronic security to the WTC towers...
But hey, why shouldnt I trust a government? Its not like they never lied about things before
All I saw you responding with was an almost verbatim repitition of a NOVA story on the subject of the rafters being the cause of the building failure. A theory that has since been realized to be faulty in many ways, by such 'radical crazies' as, FEMA, and the NIST. For instance, the NOVA video shows nothing of the 47 steel pillars in the center of the building. The pillars are completly left out of the video(actually its a computer animation, you shouldnt be using that as 'evidence' to begin with).
Also, as a result of simply repeating what you have been told(thats science to you?), you seem to be missing the obvious point you are making about the buildings collapse. In one statement, you claim that the exoskeleton of the WTC towers is what supported all the weight(false, 47 center pier pillars did), and when the trusses on those failed, the whole building collapsed. And not a few sentences later, you use fire damage to explain the collapse of WT7. Yet that building was not what you claim to be an 'exoskeleton' framed building.
There are enough questions, and enough contradictory explanations in my mind to warrant further inspection of the conjecture that the US government actually was involved in this, or is at the very least involved in not telling the whole truth. And when you come to argue the point of such questions by demanding science, and then simply repeating a story you heard someone else tell you upon which you did no further investigation on, hardly gives me the impression that you are aware of what science actually is.
Perhaps before you approach different ideas with a condescending attitude of 'lets try science' you should be aware exactly what science is. Dont believe me? Tell you what, you research what I said, and I will research what you said. Although, it may be hard doing research on some of your facts presented, as one of the sources is said to have been 'if I remember correctly'.
Moderate, or respond? RESPOND!
You do know that american idol was taken directly from a EUROPEAN TV SHOW called pop idol?
Trying to call the american public 'stupid', along with saying that somehow the abuse of power commited by certain individuals in the US governemnt is to be blamed on the general public shows me all I need to know about your line of reasoning. Otherwise, can you support your argument with something other than straw? Using the phrase 'some people say', or 'some believe', and then countering with your own statement, is a horribly wrongly overused style of debate. You may have heard of it, its called setting up a 'straw man'. The only purpose of which is to knock down, making you look like you are actually debating something.
You believe leaders to be god like figures who are destined to rule over the 'unwashed masses' who dont know any better.
Blowing things out of proportion? warrantless wiretaps, detainment wihtout legal representation, arrest without being informed of your crimes, media used for propaganda, and now PHYSICAL warantless searches as well. Exactly at what point do you think it would be appropriate to stand up for yourself? When the boot is already on your neck?
I hate to tell you, but you ARE necessarily defending what the government is doing. Saying you are 'not necessarily' defending it is to soften your language to fool yourself into believing your own words. Unfortunately, subjective thought matters little to objective reality. Looks like you fooled someone else beside yourself though, as you were marked as 'insightful'. I wonder if it was one of those guilty, stupid, uncaring americans who modded you as such? Maybe it was one of those 'enlightened' Europeans who are smarter because they made 'pop idol' a smash hit in europe first?
Believe it or not, you are advocating fascism. Stop trying to put makeup on a pig and telling me it is beautiful.
Why are they going after google? This seems more like the web designers fault, and not google's problem.
Being as vague as possible, I once did some work for a company who loved the results I was getting them in their page ranking. Then, one of the 'managers' came up and said that one person was complaining about the design of the site. I tried for a week to explain that any changes would result in a drastic drop in our page rank. I've actually studied the google patent filing, and was able to learn some important details that were used in the site constructively to help the ranking.
Since it wasnt my company, all I could do was explain what I thought the results of this decision would be. I ended up 'changing' the page layout to satisfy the clueless management, onlt to see a 15% drop in traffic and a fall from 6/10 to 4/10 in page ranking on google. Did I try to say it was google's fault? Hell no! I knew exactly where the blame was to be placed, and I vocally explained what was going on, why it was going on, and whos decision it was to make this change.
Suprisingly, they no longer question my ability to do my job. And that was shortly followed by a raise after I pointed out that I was very disapointed that I had to associate my name with such crappy performance, that was a result of poor decisions I warned against. And yes, it is VERY difficult to regain page ranking. But not impossible, unless of course your page uses every nasty trick in the book for optimization.
But the part about this company filing a lawsuit against google based on free speech? Is that a joke? It sounds like the lawyers this company hired are about as incompetent as their web designers.
Awww.... getting sick of explaining youre non-reality based posts to everyone?
Was your claim about 'remembering the utility bills from college' bullshit too? Do you honestly think anyone believes you 'noticed' the difference? Giving you WAY more than the benefit of the doubt, at the rates of electricity when you were in college, running a 500W computer, USING ALL 500W NONSTOP would run about $30/month.
You are just another person who 'conserves' because it effects your bottom line, not because wasting resources is actually a bad thing. Money is what you are focusing on, not resources. Dont think you are any different from any other self-absorbed twit who does the same thing.
Your 110% is worth as much as you think it is, this isnt a pissing contest comparing the number of zeros in a bank account. Im sure you have yours figured to the penny though, being how informed you seemed to be about the cost of running an electrical appliance. (You carry around BIG speakers in an SUV, yet you think that your COMPUTER is what the majority of your electric bill is???) sheesh... ya might want to look at the RMS of those amplifiers you are using...
60F thermostat setting?
Out of curiousity, why did you buy a 1500+ sq ft house only to then start budgeting all of your other household items. It amazes me how much status people put on a large house. Its how the phrase 'house poor' came to be. Budgets are funny things, once you break the chain, you realize that budgets are only for people who want to live with more money than they have. Its not what you earn, its what you keep...
Your poor management of finances is probably the reason you openly hope for the bottom to fall out. You just cant seem to get this system right, so you keep hoping it will fail instead of actually trying to work within the one that is all around you. And its almost amusing that you see no irony to pointing out all the 'corporate greed'. I guess it takes the focus away from your own greed.
Sounds like a depressing way to live actually, to actually have to keep track of how much more money you are spending than you actually have. But whatever floats yer boat.
morons?
You call people morons because they made 300% profit on their investment?
Whatever makes you feel like your still the most important person in the world and everyone agrees with you... keep on keepin on.
Some people actually have jobs, and are able to have something called 'savings'. And some of those people do research and invest in companies with that money expecting a return on their investment. This is how the world of money works. I guess you are holding out for social security to pay for your twilight years though...
Personally, this moron will be happy when he can retire at 35, because I have been one of those 'morons' with a plan for my money.
I think you would be surpised at how many people here DO own stock in GOOG. So, maybe people are referring to GOOG because thats how they see it in their holdings, not because its suddenly cool and everyone is supposed to be voluntarily as broke as you and look down their noses at the world of money.
In other words, you are just as much of a weasel to look down your nose at someone with money, as someone with wealth would be too look down their nose at you. Tell me, why is your 'attitude' better? Im asking you a serious question. Whats it getting you? seriously. Class discrimination goes both ways, remember that the next time the guy in the BMW chuckles at you as he drives by, while you are doing the same at him...
Is it fun being a walking contradiction?