Will it be a true media center and allow me to access a secure server by placing my public and accepted keys anywhere into it? Or is this just 'media' in terms of sit on your ass couch-potato stuff?
I stream DiVX movies over my network and watch them on my bedroom TV... I play my 200GB MP3 collection on my bedroom stereo. I use a remote. ALL ON MY XBOX!
So ok then, it is all just couch-potato stuff. So yes, $250 is too expensive to sit around on my ass. Call me twisted, but my ability to transmit encrypted messages is much more important to me than being able to watch porn in my bed while I jack off. If you would like to pay me then it might be worth it. I can understand your yawning, Id be tired too if I spent $250 to watch movies, oh but wait at least you downloaded them for free...heres your free cheeseburger, that will be $1.00 for the wrapper.
Can someone please explain to me how this is any sort of news whatsoever? I would venture to guess Im not the only one who has been using my already paid for home network and computers for video on demand, and all other 'features' of this so called media center.
What about networking, will it see my mounted SMB shares so I can access them form any location on my network. Does it have a remote, or do I have to sit in front of the tv with a MS joystick to use it? As far as I can see, hooking this up to my network, would be a giant step back to 1998.
Will it be a true media center and allow me to access a secure server by placing my public and accepted keys anywhere into it? Or is this just 'media' in terms of sit on your ass couch-potato stuff?
overall, nice concept,far from novel, and way to expensive.
Wait a sec, 5000 credit card #'s...on 158 disks. So, somehow each disk had over 30 numbers on it ON AVERAGE. Or did one have 5000 and thats it.
At least we know what those people using your credit card number arent being very careful when they throw out the trash, and apparantly the really big balls go to the guy who sold his old drive on ebay, the same drive he used to purchase his new computer with your credit card info...
What about information on a HTML page - with no links leading to it?
You dont need to clarify anything at all about that. You want to know if an HTML document by itself with no links to it is private. The same answer still applies. You are using a method to post your data that has no encryption, is a stateless connection, and has no reliable means of access control. These are the exact reasons HTML has become so popular, because it doesnt throw up any roadblocks to accessing information.
Now, if you want to run a FTP server, or SSH server, or a myriad of other servers that use authentication to ensure you are who you say you are to post information that you would only like a select few people to access, then that, and that alone is what is considered private. Besides, how do you know theres no link to it? Are you disallowing any read access with a robots.txt file to stop search engines from indexing your 'private' file.
I understand your curiousity about privacy and such, but you have to take some responsibility to protect something if you consider it valuable. You have to explicitly specify what directory you want allowed to be accesed by the internet, why would you put a file that you want to keep private in the directory that YOU specified to be public information? Granted you cant control what every other concious being on this planet does, but you can control what you do. And I would greatly recommend that you make absolute sure whatever you want to keep 'private' you contain in a mechanism to do just that. And in reference to the suit being filed against what was thought to be private information; I can sue you because the sky isnt green, and cause quite a hassle, but in the end Id rather hear what the outcome of the case was.
Let me offer up a lesson on 'percieved security'. After the world trade center was bombed the first time,one response was to hire additional security gaurds. Yes that probably made people 'feel' secure. But unfortunately, reality doesnt care how you feel...
Instead of sounding like a cranky old man, let me offer you an option. If you want to have a globally accesible document, but only accesible to you. I recommend SSH for that purpose as it will keep your data private, and if it is violated, it will stand in a court of law that it was violated.
Your direction of thought is good, but I dont quite think you understand the internet if your asking those questions, for example...
What about information on a HTML page - with no links leading to it?
That is BY DEFINITION public. If your running a web SERVER, your intent is obviously to make data accesible. If you cant figure out not to put your PIN number on a web page, you need to do some more reading. You have to EXPLICITLY allow a certain port to be open, and to resond with public data. Why you think this should be private is beyond me. If you spray paint your PIN number on your car in big yellow numbers, isnt it obvious that other people are going to read it, even though its not public because its 'on' your car?
For instance, is unencrypted email now public information?
If you ever thought that unencrytped mail was ever private, umm...Ive got some bad news for you. Think of email as a postcard, yes its addressed to someone else, but anyone who happens to be around in the travels of that postcard really has no problem reading it. Once again, do NOT put your PIN number in an email
The fact that this still needs explaining bothers me a great deal.
Perhaps the "Don't Rape" sign should really go on the Constitution - particularly the Fourth Amendment.
This, however, I agree with
But, whats the reason this happens? Why do they do this? Answer: Because they can! I mean your sitting her postulating in a comfy chair how this applies to the internet, while this crap is probably going on in your home town...go talk to your librarians about it, they will be glad to let you in on all the wonderful stuff that is being done now, oh wait, its a felony for them to tell you.
Just the fact that you 'thought' about it means very little to anyone but the most gulible reader. Hell, Im thinking about building a spaceship that travells faster than the speed of light, but unless I actually do something about it, it doesnt really mean much, does it?
I always wanted a web browser called "Sting" that displayed stuff like this and let you "cut through" the web.;-)
So what exactly are you waiting for? You have this whole wonderful idea in your head, but your waiting for what...someone else to do it? Light a fire under your ass. Open a book and learn how to program and write yourself an application that does what you want.
Who knows, it may be a benefit for the whole world!
My father got a Brookstone Wafer-thin CD system and several new CD's
Did these companies decide to quietly unleash DRM on the public this holiday season? Or is this just a problem with the new player (separate from it not being DRM capable)?
Some people just choose to have things dictated to them and then wonder why it wasnt done exactly right. Boo-Hoo, I bought an overpriced metal box and some shiny disks and I cant even do what I want with them...
Sooner or later you'll figure it out and stop asking obvious questions.
Side thought: does anyone know if there are statistics on spam based on the TLD
good question, perhaps that has something to do with it for me as well. I have a.info domain and its been running for over a year and has done just fine. Granted I get the obligitory port scans based on IP port 25, but thats mostly morons looking for a relay. I like your method of handling the unwanted mail tho. Its always a game of cat and mouse.
Heres my side thought, and its getting further away form the point every second...but, Im also starting to notice a trick in pop-ups to avoid being blocked by a host file. Instead of the pics coming from a FQDN they are originating from IP. So instead of a.doubleclick.net it comes up 65.40.1.1/ad.jpg. So in order to block these, what, I have to start adding entries to my routing table?
Actually from what I understand the outlets they are going after are gas stations, truck stops, etc. You know those revolving racks of tapes and cd's you see by the register? Most times its quite obvious they are rip-offs that have been copied ad-infinitum onto blanks. Im suprised it took this long to be brought to somebodys attention.
Ive done my share of road trips and have seen this scheme all over the country in truck stops, and gas stations so its not just a local thing. That and the mysterious stacks of briefcases that come in on pallets displayed in a nice stacked triangle. Or buying a pack of cigarettes at a gas station in a coastal city, only to see the stamp on the bottom says "For Export Only". Theres plenty of money here in shady biz deals for the RIAA to keep themselves happy and line their pockets.
Let me get this straight, AOL used to sell email addresses of its subscribers to 'similar-industries' as part of its EULA. The business model used to be based on advertising as of a few months ago when the backlash against all the pop-ups came. They then realized that most of their customers were leaving because of all these ads. Now that AOL has decided to kill its advertising based revenue stream, they are TAKING TO COURT the same companies that they used to sell email addresses to?
You think its a joke, start your own email server under your own domain. I havent recieved ONE piece of SPAM since I started doing that
I guess thats an interesting way to replace the revenue stream
I wonder why they didnt use the RIAA method of calculating sales. I bet the 'actual' number would be around 300 trillion.
Lets see, you have to count lost sales as 'stolen revenue', so every time someone looks at an episode of star trek without watching commercials, lost revenue. Every utterance of a copywrighted line from any star trek, lost royalties...you get the idea...
Shut up...its funny to me, but Ive been up since the day before yesterday doing networking layouts...
I think weve all had morons like that for a boss. A place dcwi.com I worked wouldnt even let me listen to music at a.5 volume setting in the back tech room, but the boss's daughter could listen to her radio in the front reception desk of the store. Not too much of a suprise, since the place had an open SMTP mail relay for quite awhile.
So now, Im his competition and his DNS servers are blocking my domain. Im sure his customers would be thrilled about such self-serving censorship, which works out as a good sales point for me;)
Sorry, I used all my correct Grammar in the first running of this article.
It is an inverse Relation to the number of times an article is Run, and how much I care about the 'perfection' Of a post. Including yours.
This post, much like the one before it, is just satire to pass Time while I wait to eat. geez, I didnt even Spell the word right I was Pointing out that you spelled wrong:)
Dude, thats not even a word. Im sure you like George Bush alot, but isnt this going a little to far? Heres a hint, when your spelling of a word is only used by some oddball spiritual web site , and the correct spelling is in websters dictionary, you are practicing GW speech. Come on, how about using some strategery in your/. posts
Why does it matter if it ever becomes your definition of mainstream. It works fine for those that are using it, mainly because they activley looked for a solution to their problem instead of throwing money at a problem in hopes of solving it.
As far as the argument of it being worth your time if your time is worthless, I feel pity for those that jump on that bandwagon. If your life is run by such perceptions, it will be a dull and plain white-picket-fence kind of life. Although Im sure you will have plenty of money.
Im a member of this community, and frankly I dont think its any concern of mine how many people share my outlook. After all, I dont judge my lifestyle by the number of people similar to me, in other words it doesnt get validated simply because its 'mainstream'. If an individual decides to be part of an open source community thats fine, its also fine if they continue to be impressed by paying hundreds of dollars for a 'new' OS that is nothing more than new eye-candy.
It never ceases to amaze me that there are those out there who cloak their true intentions when asking questions like these posted on slashdot. Basically all thats being done is trying to find the 'popular' side to jump on. The world would be such a better place if people just gravitated to areas they wanted to make a difference in, instead of taking a poll to decide, your life isnt a political campaign!
It would be nice if moderators could moderate the root story, like a hall-of-fame for articles with the most positively moderated one at number 1. Im going to assume most of these ask-slashdot articles would be filling up all the rankings at the bottom.
I would much rather reply to this than mod it....and I need to get an offtopic mod to hit for the cycle
You seem to be throwing out buzzwords that you dont fully understand the meaning to.
I can understand why you think P2P is being 'pushed back',let me guess you live in the US, but the reality of it is quite different. Question, were you using anything before napster came along, or is that when you think p2p began? And now since that ONE app has come under so much pressure and has been squeezed to the poping point, you think p2p is being pushed back?
As far as it not being 'embraced' as you like to say, I think what your refering to there is yourself. Couldnt you just provide content that you feel is important into a p2p network, instead of waiting for it to become a 'service' youd consider using?
My point basically is this, process information is what people do. Some people arrange into clusters of like minded ideals and share freely between those individuals. Politics only hinders the process, technology only increases it.
As if I needed another reason to be glad I switched over to DSL from cable internet after @home went bust last year...
Cable already offers sub-standard performance, now its being debated to make it worse? And since we are talking about cable, are they gonna start to cap my TV channels once they realize they are streaming me 60+ channels in real time?
The license is GPL if you don`t intend it sell your app, its commercial if you do
ok, but what if YOU decide to sell it? Do individual contributors get compensated for your gains. If so, then yes, there could be no more fair of an agreement.
Which I think is fair
Wow, you mean you actually think the agreement you made up for your own software is fair...shocking!!! Id wager 99/100 contract writers think the contract is fair, the important part is how its percieved by the users
After reading through some of the message boards on their homepage, it seems the questions of it being released under a GPL type license were not met with too open of arms.
Interesting thread to read here. It will be interesting to see if this works or is just a stunt to pull in a bigger listener base to increase the network size. After all from the looks of that license, it seems to leave an out for everyone else to do the coding and them to sell it as a commercial product.
It was a choice of either a mod, or a comment. I like discussion better than point systems.
I tend to agree with you on the CCS sheets. For example, in IE there is a CSS that allows me to do a hover color change WITHOUT using the seemingly more popular java code. I like it, its a better design for sites in my opinoin, netscape(older versions) craps on it though.
However, I dont really agree that netscape sucked and deserved to die. Without it there would have been even less innovation. Even now, I use opera over IE because of the ability to go to different and seperate connection by using a simple tab layout at the top of the screen all contained in one program. Whereas to do something similar in IE, I have to open up half a dozen instances of explorer
theres your problem. AT&T is a cable company, They have a vested interest in PUSHING you content, not you going off and finding your own content. Cable broadband has become the equivelant of what AOL was back in the day, a way for the masses who dont know any better to get access to the net. After just a little research you will quickly find out that the services the phone companies provide in DSL vastly outpreforms anything any cable company will offer you
This is what the cable company told me when I had service; "we offer web surfing and email, anything else is NOT gauranteed". The phone company was totally opposite of this attitude, their response; "We provide the connection, any servers or services you want to use or set up are your responsibility" Im not let in on any cable company biz, but Ill tell you when I upload on DSL, the only lag caused is by the basic architecture of the TCP/IP stack, not some BS restriction put there by the cable company to make you not want to upload by slowing any downloads to a crawl
Since most people only care about how much something costs, cable will continue to be the AOL of the broadband world. But Im starting to get sick of people whining about something that is in the agreement that is signed upon start of service. Oh, you didnt think it was important to read those 25 pages before you signed up, basically cable lets you have port 25,80, and 110? Too bad.
oh, and when the cable company tells you that uploading is a drag on their network, remember that they ALREADY send 60+ streams into your house in MPEG-2 format simultaniously. So on that logic, since they are assuming its a drag on THEIR network when someone downloads from you when your not there, remind them its a drag on your pocketbook that you pay for channels you cant watch all at the same time, and ask them if they have any 'suggestions' about charging you ONLY for the channels and time you actually use the TV.
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I stream DiVX movies over my network and watch them on my bedroom TV... I play my 200GB MP3 collection on my bedroom stereo. I use a remote. ALL ON MY XBOX!
So ok then, it is all just couch-potato stuff. So yes, $250 is too expensive to sit around on my ass. Call me twisted, but my ability to transmit encrypted messages is much more important to me than being able to watch porn in my bed while I jack off. If you would like to pay me then it might be worth it. I can understand your yawning, Id be tired too if I spent $250 to watch movies, oh but wait at least you downloaded them for free...heres your free cheeseburger, that will be $1.00 for the wrapper.
Can someone please explain to me how this is any sort of news whatsoever? I would venture to guess Im not the only one who has been using my already paid for home network and computers for video on demand, and all other 'features' of this so called media center.
What about networking, will it see my mounted SMB shares so I can access them form any location on my network. Does it have a remote, or do I have to sit in front of the tv with a MS joystick to use it? As far as I can see, hooking this up to my network, would be a giant step back to 1998.
Will it be a true media center and allow me to access a secure server by placing my public and accepted keys anywhere into it? Or is this just 'media' in terms of sit on your ass couch-potato stuff?
overall, nice concept ,far from novel, and way to expensive.
Wait a sec, 5000 credit card #'s...on 158 disks. So, somehow each disk had over 30 numbers on it ON AVERAGE. Or did one have 5000 and thats it.
At least we know what those people using your credit card number arent being very careful when they throw out the trash, and apparantly the really big balls go to the guy who sold his old drive on ebay, the same drive he used to purchase his new computer with your credit card info...
And this is why you should be concerned, hopefully it wont be an angy islander at the control of the jet you speak of...
What about information on a HTML page - with no links leading to it?
You dont need to clarify anything at all about that. You want to know if an HTML document by itself with no links to it is private. The same answer still applies. You are using a method to post your data that has no encryption, is a stateless connection, and has no reliable means of access control. These are the exact reasons HTML has become so popular, because it doesnt throw up any roadblocks to accessing information.
Now, if you want to run a FTP server, or SSH server, or a myriad of other servers that use authentication to ensure you are who you say you are to post information that you would only like a select few people to access, then that, and that alone is what is considered private. Besides, how do you know theres no link to it? Are you disallowing any read access with a robots.txt file to stop search engines from indexing your 'private' file.
I understand your curiousity about privacy and such, but you have to take some responsibility to protect something if you consider it valuable. You have to explicitly specify what directory you want allowed to be accesed by the internet, why would you put a file that you want to keep private in the directory that YOU specified to be public information? Granted you cant control what every other concious being on this planet does, but you can control what you do. And I would greatly recommend that you make absolute sure whatever you want to keep 'private' you contain in a mechanism to do just that. And in reference to the suit being filed against what was thought to be private information; I can sue you because the sky isnt green, and cause quite a hassle, but in the end Id rather hear what the outcome of the case was.
Let me offer up a lesson on 'percieved security'. After the world trade center was bombed the first time ,one response was to hire additional security gaurds. Yes that probably made people 'feel' secure. But unfortunately, reality doesnt care how you feel...
Instead of sounding like a cranky old man, let me offer you an option. If you want to have a globally accesible document, but only accesible to you. I recommend SSH for that purpose as it will keep your data private, and if it is violated, it will stand in a court of law that it was violated.
Your direction of thought is good, but I dont quite think you understand the internet if your asking those questions, for example...
What about information on a HTML page - with no links leading to it?
That is BY DEFINITION public. If your running a web SERVER, your intent is obviously to make data accesible. If you cant figure out not to put your PIN number on a web page, you need to do some more reading. You have to EXPLICITLY allow a certain port to be open, and to resond with public data. Why you think this should be private is beyond me. If you spray paint your PIN number on your car in big yellow numbers, isnt it obvious that other people are going to read it, even though its not public because its 'on' your car?
For instance, is unencrypted email now public information?
If you ever thought that unencrytped mail was ever private, umm...Ive got some bad news for you. Think of email as a postcard, yes its addressed to someone else, but anyone who happens to be around in the travels of that postcard really has no problem reading it. Once again, do NOT put your PIN number in an email
The fact that this still needs explaining bothers me a great deal.
Perhaps the "Don't Rape" sign should really go on the Constitution - particularly the Fourth Amendment.
This, however, I agree with
But, whats the reason this happens? Why do they do this? Answer: Because they can! I mean your sitting her postulating in a comfy chair how this applies to the internet, while this crap is probably going on in your home town...go talk to your librarians about it, they will be glad to let you in on all the wonderful stuff that is being done now, oh wait, its a felony for them to tell you.
And what did you do about it...nothing!
Just the fact that you 'thought' about it means very little to anyone but the most gulible reader. Hell, Im thinking about building a spaceship that travells faster than the speed of light, but unless I actually do something about it, it doesnt really mean much, does it?
I always wanted a web browser called "Sting" that displayed stuff like this and let you "cut through" the web.So what exactly are you waiting for? You have this whole wonderful idea in your head, but your waiting for what...someone else to do it? Light a fire under your ass. Open a book and learn how to program and write yourself an application that does what you want.
Who knows, it may be a benefit for the whole world!
Did these companies decide to quietly unleash DRM on the public this holiday season? Or is this just a problem with the new player (separate from it not being DRM capable)?
Some people just choose to have things dictated to them and then wonder why it wasnt done exactly right. Boo-Hoo, I bought an overpriced metal box and some shiny disks and I cant even do what I want with them...
Sooner or later you'll figure it out and stop asking obvious questions.
Side thought: does anyone know if there are statistics on spam based on the TLD
good question, perhaps that has something to do with it for me as well. I have a .info domain and its been running for over a year and has done just fine. Granted I get the obligitory port scans based on IP port 25, but thats mostly morons looking for a relay. I like your method of handling the unwanted mail tho. Its always a game of cat and mouse.
Heres my side thought, and its getting further away form the point every second...but, Im also starting to notice a trick in pop-ups to avoid being blocked by a host file. Instead of the pics coming from a FQDN they are originating from IP. So instead of a.doubleclick.net it comes up 65.40.1.1/ad.jpg. So in order to block these, what, I have to start adding entries to my routing table?
Actually from what I understand the outlets they are going after are gas stations, truck stops, etc. You know those revolving racks of tapes and cd's you see by the register? Most times its quite obvious they are rip-offs that have been copied ad-infinitum onto blanks. Im suprised it took this long to be brought to somebodys attention.
Ive done my share of road trips and have seen this scheme all over the country in truck stops, and gas stations so its not just a local thing. That and the mysterious stacks of briefcases that come in on pallets displayed in a nice stacked triangle. Or buying a pack of cigarettes at a gas station in a coastal city, only to see the stamp on the bottom says "For Export Only". Theres plenty of money here in shady biz deals for the RIAA to keep themselves happy and line their pockets.
Is this for real?
Let me get this straight, AOL used to sell email addresses of its subscribers to 'similar-industries' as part of its EULA. The business model used to be based on advertising as of a few months ago when the backlash against all the pop-ups came. They then realized that most of their customers were leaving because of all these ads. Now that AOL has decided to kill its advertising based revenue stream, they are TAKING TO COURT the same companies that they used to sell email addresses to?
You think its a joke, start your own email server under your own domain. I havent recieved ONE piece of SPAM since I started doing that
I guess thats an interesting way to replace the revenue stream
I wonder why they didnt use the RIAA method of calculating sales. I bet the 'actual' number would be around 300 trillion.
Lets see, you have to count lost sales as 'stolen revenue', so every time someone looks at an episode of star trek without watching commercials, lost revenue. Every utterance of a copywrighted line from any star trek, lost royalties...you get the idea...
Shut up...its funny to me, but Ive been up since the day before yesterday doing networking layouts...
I think weve all had morons like that for a boss. A place dcwi.com I worked wouldnt even let me listen to music at a .5 volume setting in the back tech room, but the boss's daughter could listen to her radio in the front reception desk of the store. Not too much of a suprise, since the place had an open SMTP mail relay for quite awhile.
So now, Im his competition and his DNS servers are blocking my domain. Im sure his customers would be thrilled about such self-serving censorship, which works out as a good sales point for me ;)
Personal emails at work were *STRONGLY* discouraged, and it was made clear that the company would read our emails if they ever felt like it
Gee, I wonder why its a previous employer? Was your boss's fav book Mein Kampf?
Sorry, I used all my correct Grammar in the first running of this article.
It is an inverse Relation to the number of times an article is Run, and how much I care about the 'perfection' Of a post. Including yours.
This post, much like the one before it, is just satire to pass Time while I wait to eat. geez, I didnt even Spell the word right I was Pointing out that you spelled wrong :)
people anthroporphise the personalizations
Dude, thats not even a word. Im sure you like George Bush alot, but isnt this going a little to far? Heres a hint, when your spelling of a word is only used by some oddball spiritual web site , and the correct spelling is in websters dictionary, you are practicing GW speech. Come on, how about using some strategery in your /. posts
Antropomorphize
Why does it matter if it ever becomes your definition of mainstream. It works fine for those that are using it, mainly because they activley looked for a solution to their problem instead of throwing money at a problem in hopes of solving it.
As far as the argument of it being worth your time if your time is worthless, I feel pity for those that jump on that bandwagon. If your life is run by such perceptions, it will be a dull and plain white-picket-fence kind of life. Although Im sure you will have plenty of money.
Im a member of this community, and frankly I dont think its any concern of mine how many people share my outlook. After all, I dont judge my lifestyle by the number of people similar to me, in other words it doesnt get validated simply because its 'mainstream'. If an individual decides to be part of an open source community thats fine, its also fine if they continue to be impressed by paying hundreds of dollars for a 'new' OS that is nothing more than new eye-candy.
It never ceases to amaze me that there are those out there who cloak their true intentions when asking questions like these posted on slashdot. Basically all thats being done is trying to find the 'popular' side to jump on. The world would be such a better place if people just gravitated to areas they wanted to make a difference in, instead of taking a poll to decide, your life isnt a political campaign!
It would be nice if moderators could moderate the root story, like a hall-of-fame for articles with the most positively moderated one at number 1. Im going to assume most of these ask-slashdot articles would be filling up all the rankings at the bottom.
I would much rather reply to this than mod it....and I need to get an offtopic mod to hit for the cycle
You seem to be throwing out buzzwords that you dont fully understand the meaning to.
I can understand why you think P2P is being 'pushed back',let me guess you live in the US, but the reality of it is quite different. Question, were you using anything before napster came along, or is that when you think p2p began? And now since that ONE app has come under so much pressure and has been squeezed to the poping point, you think p2p is being pushed back?
As far as it not being 'embraced' as you like to say, I think what your refering to there is yourself. Couldnt you just provide content that you feel is important into a p2p network, instead of waiting for it to become a 'service' youd consider using?
My point basically is this, process information is what people do. Some people arrange into clusters of like minded ideals and share freely between those individuals. Politics only hinders the process, technology only increases it.
As if I needed another reason to be glad I switched over to DSL from cable internet after @home went bust last year... Cable already offers sub-standard performance, now its being debated to make it worse? And since we are talking about cable, are they gonna start to cap my TV channels once they realize they are streaming me 60+ channels in real time?
If there was a realistic way of doing that then yes we would. Suggestions?
Sure, compensate contributors...the rest is up to you, its your business model. Either it works or it doesnt
Do you think the MySQL licensing agreement is fair?
it must be fair to those that use it, as for me personally, dont have a need to use it. Interesting tangent though.
The license is GPL if you don`t intend it sell your app, its commercial if you do
ok, but what if YOU decide to sell it? Do individual contributors get compensated for your gains. If so, then yes, there could be no more fair of an agreement.
Which I think is fair
Wow, you mean you actually think the agreement you made up for your own software is fair...shocking!!! Id wager 99/100 contract writers think the contract is fair, the important part is how its percieved by the users
After reading through some of the message boards on their homepage, it seems the questions of it being released under a GPL type license were not met with too open of arms.
Interesting thread to read here. It will be interesting to see if this works or is just a stunt to pull in a bigger listener base to increase the network size. After all from the looks of that license, it seems to leave an out for everyone else to do the coding and them to sell it as a commercial product.
It was a choice of either a mod, or a comment. I like discussion better than point systems.
I tend to agree with you on the CCS sheets. For example, in IE there is a CSS that allows me to do a hover color change WITHOUT using the seemingly more popular java code. I like it, its a better design for sites in my opinoin, netscape(older versions) craps on it though.
However, I dont really agree that netscape sucked and deserved to die. Without it there would have been even less innovation. Even now, I use opera over IE because of the ability to go to different and seperate connection by using a simple tab layout at the top of the screen all contained in one program. Whereas to do something similar in IE, I have to open up half a dozen instances of explorer
AT&T BroadBand
theres your problem. AT&T is a cable company, They have a vested interest in PUSHING you content, not you going off and finding your own content. Cable broadband has become the equivelant of what AOL was back in the day, a way for the masses who dont know any better to get access to the net. After just a little research you will quickly find out that the services the phone companies provide in DSL vastly outpreforms anything any cable company will offer you
This is what the cable company told me when I had service; "we offer web surfing and email, anything else is NOT gauranteed". The phone company was totally opposite of this attitude, their response; "We provide the connection, any servers or services you want to use or set up are your responsibility" Im not let in on any cable company biz, but Ill tell you when I upload on DSL, the only lag caused is by the basic architecture of the TCP/IP stack, not some BS restriction put there by the cable company to make you not want to upload by slowing any downloads to a crawl
Since most people only care about how much something costs, cable will continue to be the AOL of the broadband world. But Im starting to get sick of people whining about something that is in the agreement that is signed upon start of service. Oh, you didnt think it was important to read those 25 pages before you signed up, basically cable lets you have port 25,80, and 110? Too bad.
oh, and when the cable company tells you that uploading is a drag on their network, remember that they ALREADY send 60+ streams into your house in MPEG-2 format simultaniously. So on that logic, since they are assuming its a drag on THEIR network when someone downloads from you when your not there, remind them its a drag on your pocketbook that you pay for channels you cant watch all at the same time, and ask them if they have any 'suggestions' about charging you ONLY for the channels and time you actually use the TV.
whether you like it or not
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