A D text referencing C++ states: It's frustrating that such a powerful language [C++] does not do basic things like resizing arrays and concatenating strings[snip], however, ought to be part of the language.
The C/C++ languages are written by programmers for programmers. They are base-level for a reason and successful at what they are meant for. I haven't read all the info about D, but I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that D is probably written in C/C++ or at least partially. So that would be one good reason not to discredit C/C++ in favor of D.
So if SearchKing wins and gets their previous Google status restored then everybody else has a precendent to do the same. So company A has a right to be before company B, company B before company C, and company C before company A... ! Wait, this could get messy.
Short rides aren't necessarily bad. For example, the Drop Zone (see third row of pictures) at Paramount Canada's Wonderland is very short but very exciting. In fact
Theme Park Critic gives it a high rating of 8.1 out of 10.
The ride doesn't do much... just pulls you up and then drops you. Simple, short, yet elegant enough to be one of the more popular rides for thrill seekers.
Yah, that guy who got took those picture was just sitting at the Microsoft meeting and taking pictures of the all presentation transparencies on the wall (presumably because he couldn't acquire the electronic version, or he didn't have a hard copy to scan) and of course nobody questioned him. And he couldn't get an electronic or hard copy so he just sat there and took pictures during the meeting because the most evident action is sometimes the least noticed and questioned. Obviously he got away with it.
Oh, just wait a minute... maybe he was the only guy in the room because he snuck in before or after the meeting because it was... um... how about... a conspiracy theory by Linux enthusiasts -- no, the information isn't good enough for that sort of thing. And maybe the pictures are real!, in which case, well, everybody still can be sure of what they already knew before.
Or, maybe somebody just happened across these transparencies that were just lying around (which shows how important they were by the security measures), and the guy could have got in trouble (risked a jail term) to get this information that we already knew.
And so this article *really* lends credence to the anti-OSS memo.;)
Aren't some of these articles and whole lot of fun?
Bring on the DRM. In the past software has been used to circumvent software and hardware has been used to circumvent hardware (and one has been used to circumvent the other). So I predict nothing will change if hardware and software is legislated into being. However things will radically change if the piracy and copyright laws are strictly enforced.
Sorry to reply to my own post, but I had one last thought: Today most video games are very realistic simulators for the sake of entertainment. For the most part, gone are the days of the blocky graphics and abstractions of real life objects. Today most video game objects act very much like they would in real life, and they are getting more realistic every day. I enjoy playing killing simulators like Quake 3, Unreal Tournament, etc. I'm up for the challenge and the adrenaline rush, the same as I might get in a real life paint-ball game. However everybody thinks differently and teenagers are definitely more impressionable than adults for the most part. So I think that the video game industry and the consumers both should take these issues seriously and tread carefully. The almighty dollar shouldn't be the final vote. Even thought arguing ethics and limits is not easy, it should still be done.
Some games are meant for more than just entertainment. For example, the America's Army video game website states "Operations is rated T for Teen by the ESRB and recommended for recruits 13 years old and above.". As reported by CNET News, the U.S. Army is developing PC games to serve as recruiting tools.
Unless the video game makers state their intents for the game, it is next to impossible to know if the company is providing violent entertainment for the purpose of making sales, or because they might have a hidden agenda, or maybe even because they personally like the idea of running people down in cars (arguably disturbing). If a game company produced a game that allowed you to become a terrorist and choose Suicide Bomber, Fly Plane Into Building, etc. would we treat that game the same way as a game that lets the player run people over using automobiles, or the same as a first person shooter where you just blow things away?
We don't necessarily know the intent of the game company, but we can make informed decisions about the game based on its content, or own values, and/or the social politics of the day. Therefore maybe it's not a bad idea to enforce the rating system on video games just like ratings are (usually) enforced in the movie theatres for age groups. For example, don't let minors purchase violent video games, whether they have to wait to a certain age or need consent of a parent might work. However we all know the realities of computers and how easy it is to electronically distrubute bits and bytes. Most likely the kid will get his or her hands on the software eventually. However I don't believe that's an argument for not enforcing the video game rating.
Maybe a parent who doesn't mind their kid joining the army, doesn't mind the "recruiting experience" offered by the U.S. Army video game (which involved killing people). However the same parent might not let their kid become a terrorist offered by another video game. However in another country this situation might be reversed.
I think a sense of humor represents the imaginative side of the programmer. I find that programmers with a sense of humor often produce more creative solutions and aren't as afraid of the code or the solutions compared to their more staunch, anal-retentive counterparts. The coder with a sense of humor seems to live for creative endeavour of the coding, and in my opinion often produces a better solution sometimes even faster because they are enjoying the process. And if the humor gets reflected in the code then so be it -- we call all share in the laughs.
Once in a while I receive a piece of spam that I don't mind. And this RC Car is the one out of about the last 1001 that I didn't mind receiving.
Some companies do have innovative and/or entertaining and/or cool products. That RC car sure has been tempting though.
It's nice every once in a while when you receive spam for a product that stands on its own merit; it doesn't need to be hyped up or anything. It is what it is, plain and simple. If spam should be anything, then that is what is should be.
Could this be grounds for another anti-trust suit against Microsoft?"
No. Because in XML you are allowed to define your own application of it. Hopefully I as a developer could also create my own XML application (cryptic or not) without getting in legal troubles. Otherwise I might as well start learning a trade if the computer world is really that much of a mess.
The move could also hamper data exchange with competing desktop productivity software that recognizes XML, such as Corel's WordPerfect or Sun Microsystems' StarOffice, say analysts and competitors.
Just because somebody else is first to the game doesn't mean the last guy has to follow.
Microsoft has always created their own standard. They will do it again. That should be of no surprise to anybody. And MS Word won't change much as a result because it is currently proprietary and most likely will continue to be.
However I can definitely see that if Microsoft uses common XML standards that are compatible with other office suites then the underdogs might get a chance. So should we blame Microsoft if they don't do this? Microsoft is not open source, they are about the money. They have no reason to support standards and compatibility if it will hurt their bottom line. On the other hand, they might shoot themselves in the foot with such a strategy because people may not like it. Of course history hasn't taught us this lesson even though we would like to see it learned from an open source standpoint.
I think a new, relative form of measurement is great (obviously 421 and 156 are the same thing when counting CD writers). I mean, the standard numbering systems don't work well because they are too precise and everybody splits hairs over the minutest details. If everybody wasn't so anal about numbers then we wouldn't have half the problems we have now with cooking the books. And students could get "mostly right" math answers which would mean better marks and therefore a better self-esteem. Yes, math needs to be tamed and the RIAA is definitely leading the way. I wonder if they take of their accounting with the same system.
What's the fascination with Dragonball? What is it anways? -- a television show, a movie, an electronics device, or something else?
Please somebody explain why it's so popular. The curiosity is killing me.
Does the Lycos crowd know something that we don't, or was the Dragonball movie advertised on the website all year long?
A "bobblehead of the CEO" is just hilarious. He must have a big head too. =) I can't imagine anybody having a that high of an opinion of themsevles to think everybody else would like a doll. Heck, it took over 2000 years to get a Jesus Christ action figure (we have them here in Toronto anyways). Usually any type of momument made to somebody is reserved for other people to do after the person dies. Is your boss maybe dying of something?
Up until Windows XP, Notepad had a weird bug whereby resizing the window might cause the internal typing position to become misaligned from the actual cursor position. As far as I can tell, that bug remained for years. Maybe it has been fixed in Windows 2000 too.. I can't remember.
Linux and Unix users are, in fact, switching to Macs in droves.
Ever since the advent of OS X, I can see the reason why. The "switchers" are not really switching away from Unix, they are just switching to another form of it.
That posted link to "why MySQL sucks for non-toy apps" (also known by the proper title: "Why Not MySQL?") in the previous post is in fact 2.5 years old, and therefore 2.5 years late to the party. Obviously a lot has happened since then in the development of PostgreSQL and MySQL software packages.
It should be illegal to post such old references because old information can be very misleading. However, fortuneately, MySql has a website with current information on it (go figure).
Maybe it was a troll, but here's the proper information:
- Transactions are available to MySql. MySQL 3.23 release has several major features not present in the 3.22 or 3.21 releases. These include: full-text search, replication between a master and many slaves and several new table handlers that support large files and transactions
- Is that information about foreign key constraints in the MySQL manual?.. Why, yes!
Are record locks really a non-existent issue? Maybe the MySql user manual can shed some light on that point:
"Performing a read in share mode means that we read the latest available data, and set a shared mode lock on the rows we read."
- The stored procedures and triggers are not here yet. Thank goodness something in that old link doesn't need to be refuted!
So yes, you might want to check out that really old critique of MySql, but then again you might want to look at the MySql.com website if you want current information. Then you can compare the newest PostgreSQL to the newest MySQL.
AMD makes a really good competing processor to Intel. It's hard to find anything in the tech industry nowadays that competes well as a substitute for another product. I hope AMD will at least keep up with Intel even if not aiming to beat them. I think AMD is perceived as a good solid company by standards, but seems to have entered the race a bit too late. I guess now they are trying to enter new races earlier, which might not be a bad idea.
Here are some interesting links that prove Freedows indeed existed, also to quash accusations that you mispelled the link, and to give your post more credibility (maybe even a few mod points!):
For all those comments that talk about Palm, and other PDAs being big and bulky like
"wasn't worth it to have this giant thing"
and
"They're just too big, eat too much battery, "
, I say size is relative.
The last time I had a PDA must have been about 15 years ago. (Was it even called a PDA then?) Ya, it was the same size they are now, but held about 60 phone numbers, a few dozen lines in up to 5 different ToDo lists... well, you get the idea.
And I used it a lot, even though it sucked by current standards. I used it until it broke a few years later.
So I have a theory called "PDA relativity": PDAs are really a lot less big and bulky now, only because that measure is dependant upon the amount of information it can hold and how powerful it is. Don't look at actual size by itself.
I'm considering buying a new PDA after my 12 year absence from them. I mean, now you can write on them.. beats that puny keyboard.
BTW a friend of mine finds his PDA useful for downloading movie listings onto (amongst other things). Whenever the group is hanging and we decide to hit a movie, he always has the list of theatres, movies, and showtimes for the entire Greator Toronto area available; even with reviews, number of stars, and the whole shabang. Very handy.
Took a quick look through that BBC article: Investigators from the Basel Action Network (BAN) in the region have seen villagers burning the coating off cables in open fires - certain plastics are known to release highly toxic dioxins and furans when burnt.
A little education might be helpful. It's great we see this in the newspaper articles, but maybe thost villagers need to understand a little bit more about cables and coating. Sure, we can take on a huge guilt trip for making the poor decision of shipping the stuff there, but many more poor decisions are made by those countries after the computers are received. The blame is shared.
Here in the province of Ontario (in Canada) there exists a program named Computers for Schools - Ontario. The purpose is to re-use old computers and parts. In short "Computers for Schools is a national Program that turns your old computers into a strategic resource."
Sure, it won't keep them going forever, but at least the computers will get more widely used before converting to the "dark side". Therefore we can at least get more good mileage out of them. It doesn't solve the problem, but at least people might feel a bit better about being able to sustain the inevitability for a bit longer and help out education in the meantime.
Please post similar programs from other provinces and states. It's feels a lot better to donate computers instead of throwing them out.
And what would a/. posting be without my 2 cents...
(Boy, I can feel the flames on this one already, but here goes....)
From the article: They dip circuit boards and chips in acid to recover small amounts of gold, inhaling the fumes and dumping the acid into a nearby river that is dying.
We are not asking them to do that. I don't think Westerners should feel extremely guilty over these facts. Other countries have governments, regulations, and rules. It's up those goverments to actually create the safety regulations. We can ask, but they make the final decision. Sure we can stop "using" those countries for our own benefit as much as we do. I know North America does a lot of wrong for the sake of capitalism.
And also "migrant workers are paid pennies to crack open and sort the parts of monitors and circuit boards". I am ignorant of the economical facts about those countries, but how do we know that it's as bad as it sounds. I mean, we live in the most prosperous nations of the world -- pretty much anything might sound bad to us. Might those pennies actually buy food, clothing, etc; maybe those are pennies they would not have otherwise had. If so then that's one good point amongst all the negatives. I'm just trying to say we need to look into every reported statement carefully before jumping to conclusions. Media outlets do love sensationalism.
The pop-up window was never designed for advertising purposes. However because of the flexibility of the JavaScript language, you can easily create a program to display advertising in a pop-up. And so the pop-up window has become an annoyance because 99% of the time it's related to in-your-face advertising (99% unwanted).
Popups can be used for other reasons. Maybe I'm blocking pop-ups for a totally different reason than advertising. The fact that Anti-leech.com thinks that blocking pop-ups == blocking advertising, is wrong because many more applications exist for the standard pop-up window (like games, application notices, cool effects, temporary data store, etc. -- whatever the programmer can imagine).
On the flip side, there are other ways to make advertising annoying without popups. For example, some sites now use a DHTML layer that floats across the content to get your attention. Now that's annoying, but it's not a pop-up, which proves pop-ups aren't needed, so why protect pop-up advertising? I don't see a reason, but maybe somebody else (an advertiser) can shed some light on this. I would like to hear perspectives from advertisers on that point. DHTML layers are a good idea from the advertiser's perspective because layers can't easily be suppressed, unless JavaScript is turned off completely, which most people are not likely to do. Sorry about giving out such "evil" pointers but it's nothing new that people don't already know about.
Excluding anti-pop-up browsers will make most potential clients angry. Instead, the advertisers (and Anti-leech.com) should better spend their time creating alternate methods for delivery of advertising (like the DHTML layer) intsead of blocking the defunct pop-up. It's easy to see that protecting pop-up advertising is short-sighted because popups are not the only delivery method available for advertising. These companies must not be technically savvy. Whoever buys into this foolish logic will end up annoying their potential clientel, and therefore alienating them. Are you gonna' buy from someone who calls you a thief and then forces you to see pop-ups that you've already decided you don't want? Notice the accusing intonations of the text that the anti-popup detector displays -- very rude indeed -- any descent advertiser or sales outlet wouldn't use it, unless they are convinced they have to deal out punishment to their potential clients as a parent might to a child. Very demeaning to say the least. We're all grown-ups here.
Why do so many browsers allow you to block pop-ups? Because the people have spoken, and the people do not want pop-up advertising! For any advertiser to now force-feed pop-ups and call clients thieves -- especially at this point in history -- it goes against every ethical and smart business practice.
I don't mind advertising being displayed to me, because I am so accustomed to it. However I do despise it being pushed to me in pop-up windows or any other annoying fashion that blocks the primary purpose of my visit to the website. If they have to yell that loud about their product, then I would say the product most likely sucks. For example, you probably won't see the Segway HT in a pop-up window anytime soon because the product speaks for itself. Quality, value, and purpose.
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The C/C++ languages are written by programmers for programmers. They are base-level for a reason and successful at what they are meant for. I haven't read all the info about D, but I'm going to go out on a limb and assume that D is probably written in C/C++ or at least partially. So that would be one good reason not to discredit C/C++ in favor of D.
So if SearchKing wins and gets their previous Google status restored then everybody else has a precendent to do the same. So company A has a right to be before company B, company B before company C, and company C before company A ... ! Wait, this could get messy.
Short rides aren't necessarily bad. For example, the Drop Zone (see third row of pictures) at Paramount Canada's Wonderland is very short but very exciting. In fact Theme Park Critic gives it a high rating of 8.1 out of 10. The ride doesn't do much ... just pulls you up and then drops you. Simple, short, yet elegant enough to be one of the more popular rides for thrill seekers.
And so this article *really* lends credence to the anti-OSS memo. ;)
Aren't some of these articles and whole lot of fun?
Bring on the DRM. In the past software has been used to circumvent software and hardware has been used to circumvent hardware (and one has been used to circumvent the other). So I predict nothing will change if hardware and software is legislated into being. However things will radically change if the piracy and copyright laws are strictly enforced.
Just for fun: ;)
Obviously Lawmeme's Paul Szynol doesn't play Grand Theft Auto, and Greplaw's Mikael Pawlo does.
Sorry to reply to my own post, but I had one last thought: Today most video games are very realistic simulators for the sake of entertainment. For the most part, gone are the days of the blocky graphics and abstractions of real life objects. Today most video game objects act very much like they would in real life, and they are getting more realistic every day. I enjoy playing killing simulators like Quake 3, Unreal Tournament, etc. I'm up for the challenge and the adrenaline rush, the same as I might get in a real life paint-ball game. However everybody thinks differently and teenagers are definitely more impressionable than adults for the most part. So I think that the video game industry and the consumers both should take these issues seriously and tread carefully. The almighty dollar shouldn't be the final vote. Even thought arguing ethics and limits is not easy, it should still be done.
Unless the video game makers state their intents for the game, it is next to impossible to know if the company is providing violent entertainment for the purpose of making sales, or because they might have a hidden agenda, or maybe even because they personally like the idea of running people down in cars (arguably disturbing). If a game company produced a game that allowed you to become a terrorist and choose Suicide Bomber, Fly Plane Into Building, etc. would we treat that game the same way as a game that lets the player run people over using automobiles, or the same as a first person shooter where you just blow things away?
We don't necessarily know the intent of the game company, but we can make informed decisions about the game based on its content, or own values, and/or the social politics of the day. Therefore maybe it's not a bad idea to enforce the rating system on video games just like ratings are (usually) enforced in the movie theatres for age groups. For example, don't let minors purchase violent video games, whether they have to wait to a certain age or need consent of a parent might work. However we all know the realities of computers and how easy it is to electronically distrubute bits and bytes. Most likely the kid will get his or her hands on the software eventually. However I don't believe that's an argument for not enforcing the video game rating.
Maybe a parent who doesn't mind their kid joining the army, doesn't mind the "recruiting experience" offered by the U.S. Army video game (which involved killing people). However the same parent might not let their kid become a terrorist offered by another video game. However in another country this situation might be reversed.
I think a sense of humor represents the imaginative side of the programmer. I find that programmers with a sense of humor often produce more creative solutions and aren't as afraid of the code or the solutions compared to their more staunch, anal-retentive counterparts. The coder with a sense of humor seems to live for creative endeavour of the coding, and in my opinion often produces a better solution sometimes even faster because they are enjoying the process. And if the humor gets reflected in the code then so be it -- we call all share in the laughs.
Once in a while I receive a piece of spam that I don't mind. And this RC Car is the one out of about the last 1001 that I didn't mind receiving. Some companies do have innovative and/or entertaining and/or cool products. That RC car sure has been tempting though.
It's nice every once in a while when you receive spam for a product that stands on its own merit; it doesn't need to be hyped up or anything. It is what it is, plain and simple. If spam should be anything, then that is what is should be.
No. Because in XML you are allowed to define your own application of it. Hopefully I as a developer could also create my own XML application (cryptic or not) without getting in legal troubles. Otherwise I might as well start learning a trade if the computer world is really that much of a mess.
The move could also hamper data exchange with competing desktop productivity software that recognizes XML, such as Corel's WordPerfect or Sun Microsystems' StarOffice, say analysts and competitors.
Just because somebody else is first to the game doesn't mean the last guy has to follow. Microsoft has always created their own standard. They will do it again. That should be of no surprise to anybody. And MS Word won't change much as a result because it is currently proprietary and most likely will continue to be.
However I can definitely see that if Microsoft uses common XML standards that are compatible with other office suites then the underdogs might get a chance. So should we blame Microsoft if they don't do this? Microsoft is not open source, they are about the money. They have no reason to support standards and compatibility if it will hurt their bottom line. On the other hand, they might shoot themselves in the foot with such a strategy because people may not like it. Of course history hasn't taught us this lesson even though we would like to see it learned from an open source standpoint.
I think a new, relative form of measurement is great (obviously 421 and 156 are the same thing when counting CD writers). I mean, the standard numbering systems don't work well because they are too precise and everybody splits hairs over the minutest details. If everybody wasn't so anal about numbers then we wouldn't have half the problems we have now with cooking the books. And students could get "mostly right" math answers which would mean better marks and therefore a better self-esteem. Yes, math needs to be tamed and the RIAA is definitely leading the way. I wonder if they take of their accounting with the same system.
What's the fascination with Dragonball? What is it anways? -- a television show, a movie, an electronics device, or something else? Please somebody explain why it's so popular. The curiosity is killing me. Does the Lycos crowd know something that we don't, or was the Dragonball movie advertised on the website all year long?
A "bobblehead of the CEO" is just hilarious. He must have a big head too. =) I can't imagine anybody having a that high of an opinion of themsevles to think everybody else would like a doll. Heck, it took over 2000 years to get a Jesus Christ action figure (we have them here in Toronto anyways). Usually any type of momument made to somebody is reserved for other people to do after the person dies. Is your boss maybe dying of something?
Up until Windows XP, Notepad had a weird bug whereby resizing the window might cause the internal typing position to become misaligned from the actual cursor position. As far as I can tell, that bug remained for years. Maybe it has been fixed in Windows 2000 too .. I can't remember.
... is dangerous to people with pacemakers or floppy disks.
Ever since the advent of OS X, I can see the reason why. The "switchers" are not really switching away from Unix, they are just switching to another form of it.
Maybe it was a troll, but here's the proper information:
- Transactions are available to MySql.
MySQL 3.23 release has several major features not present in the 3.22 or 3.21 releases. These include: full-text search, replication between a master and many slaves and several new table handlers that support large files and transactions
- Is that information about foreign key constraints in the MySQL manual? .. Why, yes!
Are record locks really a non-existent issue? Maybe the MySql user manual can shed some light on that point: "Performing a read in share mode means that we read the latest available data, and set a shared mode lock on the rows we read."
- The stored procedures and triggers are not here yet. Thank goodness something in that old link doesn't need to be refuted!
So yes, you might want to check out that really old critique of MySql, but then again you might want to look at the MySql.com website if you want current information. Then you can compare the newest PostgreSQL to the newest MySQL.
AMD makes a really good competing processor to Intel. It's hard to find anything in the tech industry nowadays that competes well as a substitute for another product. I hope AMD will at least keep up with Intel even if not aiming to beat them. I think AMD is perceived as a good solid company by standards, but seems to have entered the race a bit too late. I guess now they are trying to enter new races earlier, which might not be a bad idea.
- A Source Forge Project under the name the name Freedows -- not much activity :(
- a ZDNet article dated Dec 31, 2000.
- From the WayBack Machine here are website snapshots dated April 18, 1998 and March 8, 2001.
Also from the WayBack machine, for www.allos.org:
- website snapshots from Dec 6, 1998 and Sept 22, 2001
Hmm, the reported archive dates don't correlate with the actual page dates. Curious. But it serves the purpose anyway.
That's a bummer. You definitely got modded wrong as Offtopic. You should appeal, if you care.
C'mon, somebody mod this guy up.
The last time I had a PDA must have been about 15 years ago. (Was it even called a PDA then?) Ya, it was the same size they are now, but held about 60 phone numbers, a few dozen lines in up to 5 different ToDo lists
So I have a theory called "PDA relativity": PDAs are really a lot less big and bulky now, only because that measure is dependant upon the amount of information it can hold and how powerful it is. Don't look at actual size by itself. .. beats that puny keyboard.
I'm considering buying a new PDA after my 12 year absence from them. I mean, now you can write on them
BTW a friend of mine finds his PDA useful for downloading movie listings onto (amongst other things). Whenever the group is hanging and we decide to hit a movie, he always has the list of theatres, movies, and showtimes for the entire Greator Toronto area available; even with reviews, number of stars, and the whole shabang. Very handy.
Investigators from the Basel Action Network (BAN) in the region have seen villagers burning the coating off cables in open fires - certain plastics are known to release highly toxic dioxins and furans when burnt.
A little education might be helpful. It's great we see this in the newspaper articles, but maybe thost villagers need to understand a little bit more about cables and coating. Sure, we can take on a huge guilt trip for making the poor decision of shipping the stuff there, but many more poor decisions are made by those countries after the computers are received. The blame is shared.
Please post similar programs from other provinces and states. It's feels a lot better to donate computers instead of throwing them out.
And what would a /. posting be without my 2 cents ... ....)
(Boy, I can feel the flames on this one already, but here goes
From the article: They dip circuit boards and chips in acid to recover small amounts of gold, inhaling the fumes and dumping the acid into a nearby river that is dying.
We are not asking them to do that. I don't think Westerners should feel extremely guilty over these facts. Other countries have governments, regulations, and rules. It's up those goverments to actually create the safety regulations. We can ask, but they make the final decision. Sure we can stop "using" those countries for our own benefit as much as we do. I know North America does a lot of wrong for the sake of capitalism.
And also "migrant workers are paid pennies to crack open and sort the parts of monitors and circuit boards".
I am ignorant of the economical facts about those countries, but how do we know that it's as bad as it sounds. I mean, we live in the most prosperous nations of the world -- pretty much anything might sound bad to us. Might those pennies actually buy food, clothing, etc; maybe those are pennies they would not have otherwise had. If so then that's one good point amongst all the negatives. I'm just trying to say we need to look into every reported statement carefully before jumping to conclusions. Media outlets do love sensationalism.
Popups can be used for other reasons. Maybe I'm blocking pop-ups for a totally different reason than advertising. The fact that Anti-leech.com thinks that blocking pop-ups == blocking advertising, is wrong because many more applications exist for the standard pop-up window (like games, application notices, cool effects, temporary data store, etc. -- whatever the programmer can imagine).
On the flip side, there are other ways to make advertising annoying without popups. For example, some sites now use a DHTML layer that floats across the content to get your attention. Now that's annoying, but it's not a pop-up, which proves pop-ups aren't needed, so why protect pop-up advertising? I don't see a reason, but maybe somebody else (an advertiser) can shed some light on this. I would like to hear perspectives from advertisers on that point. DHTML layers are a good idea from the advertiser's perspective because layers can't easily be suppressed, unless JavaScript is turned off completely, which most people are not likely to do. Sorry about giving out such "evil" pointers but it's nothing new that people don't already know about.
Excluding anti-pop-up browsers will make most potential clients angry. Instead, the advertisers (and Anti-leech.com) should better spend their time creating alternate methods for delivery of advertising (like the DHTML layer) intsead of blocking the defunct pop-up. It's easy to see that protecting pop-up advertising is short-sighted because popups are not the only delivery method available for advertising. These companies must not be technically savvy. Whoever buys into this foolish logic will end up annoying their potential clientel, and therefore alienating them. Are you gonna' buy from someone who calls you a thief and then forces you to see pop-ups that you've already decided you don't want? Notice the accusing intonations of the text that the anti-popup detector displays -- very rude indeed -- any descent advertiser or sales outlet wouldn't use it, unless they are convinced they have to deal out punishment to their potential clients as a parent might to a child. Very demeaning to say the least. We're all grown-ups here.
Why do so many browsers allow you to block pop-ups? Because the people have spoken, and the people do not want pop-up advertising! For any advertiser to now force-feed pop-ups and call clients thieves -- especially at this point in history -- it goes against every ethical and smart business practice.
I don't mind advertising being displayed to me, because I am so accustomed to it. However I do despise it being pushed to me in pop-up windows or any other annoying fashion that blocks the primary purpose of my visit to the website. If they have to yell that loud about their product, then I would say the product most likely sucks. For example, you probably won't see the Segway HT in a pop-up window anytime soon because the product speaks for itself. Quality, value, and purpose.