While it's all easy to sit back and call Renaissance dumbasses, they probably bought SCOX at < $1, and now own a ~ $20/share stock. I know, I know, it's ill-gotten and short-term gains, but if they were to sell now and make ~$19/share they have made a HUGE profit that is fair-and-square according to the laws of this country - after all, they honestly (if stupidly) believed SCO was a good investment. That's a little different than the pump 'n dump scheme many of us suspected.
I'm not standing up for SCO or Ren. But the louder we screech how stupid they are, the harder they laugh on the way to the bank.
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SCO's antics are clearly too insane and irresponsible to be part of an intentional business plan. The crazier they act, the more it becomes apparent to me that this is all M$-funded FUD, with Sun cackling in the wings.
SCO is in a lose/lose situation, and about the only thing you can do with a Zero on fire is steer it towards the nearest aircraft carrier. Even better if Uncle Mickey$ has promised a smooth bailout.
Really, the only surprising thing to me anymore is that McBride et. al seem to be so cavalier about getting sued/voted out by shareholders and/or put in jail for various kinds of manipulation and fraud by the SEC. M$ has some mighty deep pockets, but the Gubment carries a mighty big stick.
A good friend of mine is no longer able to send her regular op-ed piece to AOLers due to anti-spam zealotry. She can't reply to her subscribers when they write and ask why she's stopped sending it. She's even blocked from emailing AOL tech support to ask why she's blocked in the first place.
Arbitrarily cutting off an entire ISP with the inexplicable finality AOL has shown towards several ISPs isn't making the world a better or more spam-free place.
Repeat after me: arrogant zealotry is a bad thing, and we could use less of it.
How can it be determined whether the use is commercial or not? I assume they mean you can't re-distribute the content for profit, but what about using the material as research for books or other for-sale works?
What will the RIAA say? Surely they won't just lie down while Beatles performances, John Peel Sessions, and other huge cash cows are available for free.
What will the MPAA say? Apologies for not having done my research, but surely there are DVDs for sale at Best Buy of content distributed by members of the MPAA?
Will it only be material the BBC explicitly produced? Surely they, like other networks, have broadcast shows or footage that they didn't create.
What formats will be used? This seems like a thorny issue. Many of the most popular formats have strings attached. With the hoo-ha surrounding proprietary image and sound recording formats, what's the best set of technologies to use?
How long will it take to get the material online? It seems like this will be a never-ending project, with new content being created 24/7.
What will the order of precedence be? Will it be FIFO, FILO, by popularity, by media type?
This is terribly exciting... I hope other media outlets follow suit.
What SP6 actually did (IIRC) was not to disable SMTP for Notes specifically, but to bind port 1352 to another process, which is THE main port that Notes/Domino uses to communicate (as important as port 80 is to a web server).
The conspiracy theorists suggested that M$ did it on purpose, this was at a time when the TCO wars were at a peak between Lotus/IBM and M$.
I'm from Texas so I shouldn't bitch, but the idea of the cast from Fargo jibber jabbering about every inane little event that happened on their vacation... Amtrack's still in business, right?
So you'd be willing to see your mom, sister, son, friend go to prison, lose the right to vote, serve in the military, own a firearm, and most of the other things guaranteed in the Bill of Rights over 10 cents worth of royalties?
We should leap-frog gesture technology and go straight to this.
But Seriously. Yes, safety innovations are worthwhile. However, at the risk of sounding like a hystronic dumbass, your car is not a goddamn entertainment center! Work the CD player, yap on the phone, eat a taco, crank up the A/C, turn around and shriek at the kids... I even see advertisements for in-dash TV/VCR/DVD screens.
Maybe the answer is getting cars to drive themselves with GPS or something. That way we won't distract Joe Consumer with the tedious task of driving, leaving him free to settle back with a bucket of KFC and some pr0n on the way to the mall.
Just out of curiosity, has anyone examined the effects of whatever might happen *outside* the US?
I realize that American oligarchies have a pretty long arm into parts of Europe, but what about China, certain South American countries, and other places where US contract law has a market value just slightly below a rat's ass?
Let's say SCO's case is in fact iron clad, bullet proof, and all around just peachy. Is Darth McBride going to send Kim Jong Il a cease and desist letter? I'd like to see that. It is in some ways reminiscent of Sharman/KaZaA, they have (IIRC) developers in Europe, are incorporated in a Pacific Rim protectorate of Australia, and source code in a 3rd locale I can't remember. A US judge might be able to put a crimp in their cable to the states, but that's about it.
So what will the outcome be other than to harm American companies/software and those companies/software where there is some kind of reciprocity on US contract law? If SCO wins, yeah, IBM may have to stop shipping AIX (not likely, but let's say), but what about the rest of the world? Anybody?
Maybe this could be Bush's next excuse to bomb a 3rd world nation into oblivion: "they were violating our IP!!"
I thought the title said Enterprise OS. All of the >$10 Billion/year companies I've written software for run *nix on Sun and/or *nix and/or an IBM OS on medium to big iron. They are not running Windows as an "Enterprise" platform.
I'm not talking email servers where a few poor sap CIOs got talked into running Exchange farms, or similar unfortunate tragedies with IIS, I'm talking the ERP stuff that runs the factory, accounting, payroll, and other stuff people have to bet their businesses on.
I realize OS/390 and Windoze are apples and oranges, but come one, they said ENTERPRISE. Now if they mean "Enterprise" as 2 guys and a van and a laptop, then hell yeah bring on the Windows. Otherwise, it's like having a review of the world's fastest street cars pitting Acura vs. Mazda vs. Toyota. The Lamborghini and Ferrari folks are tapping their feet and rolling their eyes. Put DB2 on an S/390 and on the bitchinest Windows box you can get your hands on, then do the test. I dare you.
And start making hot chicks who become helplessly aroused when exposed to discussions such as LILO vs. GRUB, whether Episode IV should be released on DVD as-is or digitally remastered first, and what the best strategies for home brew are. Don't tell me nerds aren't at the heart of this project, quit fscking around with the damn fish and get on it!
1) I am convinced that each of these people has a golden parachute, either through stock manipulation or M$ "contribution" to their cause. Otherwise, why commit suicide? They may never *have* to work again
2) People have short memroies. Remember Mark Fuhrman? Although he was publicly shown to be a racist, fascist a-hole, he is alive and well and "continues his work as an award-winning author and radio show host."
Do his listeners know or care? Probably not. He's famous, that's what's important.
(OS = operating system not open source, he is attached to the CS department) at the University of Texas @ Austin. In his pre-academic career he wrote systems that helped land men on the moon. Though his classes are usually more theoretical than practical, *nix is a standard tool for class projects. I tried to tell him he was fscked because SCO ownzered all his course material, but he just kept saying SC-who? Jeez, the Fresh Prince was right, parents just don't understand.
This isn't quite like Pepsi slandering Coke. It's more like "2 Guys in a Garage's Hometown Soda Company" saying Coke has poo in it. And we also happen to know that the 2 Guys are about to get evicted by their mom, their own soda is really Coke with some Pixie Stix and Dr. Pepper swashed around in it, and most of 2 Guys' neighbors and friends have said "no thanks, we'll stick with Coke" when offered their product.
My personal armchair quarterback opinion:
SCO is going down the tubes, blames IBM and Linux for their woes.
M$ says, look, here's a few million so your execs can have a golden parachute. Just cause IBM/Linux a headache for us. Call this gift a "licensing deal" so the DOJ doesn't kick our ass.
SCO goes bananas, keeps the volume high, does their best impression of Joseph McCarthy whipping up a frenzy.
(This part has yet to happen, w/Army Attorney Joseph Welch played by a Federal judge) McBride is asked "Have you no shred of decency, sir? Have you no shame?"
To paraphrase from http://www.dimensional.com/~randl/mccart.htm, the judge says that SCO "is a lout deserving no further attention," again on the shimmering eye of television. The tide of public opinion turns against them, after seeing them in all their revolting, alcoholic glory. They die shortly after that, like a poisonous mushroom spreading their spores and then shrivelling into nothing.
Your (slashdot_commentator (444053)) post should be modded -1: Flamebait. Jabs at entire cultures ("Oh, I forgot, the US kids aren't so good with it [math]") might seem cool to you, and apparently they are even to the/. moderators who gave you +5, but it won't get the human race anywhere. Shame on you.
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"Further, he says, ordinary citizens need to understand science and technology better to make informed choices in the voting booth."
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Yeah, especially if the voting booth runs on those Diebold machines...!
While it's all easy to sit back and call Renaissance dumbasses, they probably bought SCOX at < $1, and now own a ~ $20/share stock. I know, I know, it's ill-gotten and short-term gains, but if they were to sell now and make ~$19/share they have made a HUGE profit that is fair-and-square according to the laws of this country - after all, they honestly (if stupidly) believed SCO was a good investment. That's a little different than the pump 'n dump scheme many of us suspected.
I'm not standing up for SCO or Ren. But the louder we screech how stupid they are, the harder they laugh on the way to the bank.
SCO's antics are clearly too insane and irresponsible to be part of an intentional business plan. The crazier they act, the more it becomes apparent to me that this is all M$-funded FUD, with Sun cackling in the wings.
SCO is in a lose/lose situation, and about the only thing you can do with a Zero on fire is steer it towards the nearest aircraft carrier. Even better if Uncle Mickey$ has promised a smooth bailout.
Really, the only surprising thing to me anymore is that McBride et. al seem to be so cavalier about getting sued/voted out by shareholders and/or put in jail for various kinds of manipulation and fraud by the SEC. M$ has some mighty deep pockets, but the Gubment carries a mighty big stick.
Anti-spam zealotry is a good thing
A good friend of mine is no longer able to send her regular op-ed piece to AOLers due to anti-spam zealotry. She can't reply to her subscribers when they write and ask why she's stopped sending it. She's even blocked from emailing AOL tech support to ask why she's blocked in the first place.
Arbitrarily cutting off an entire ISP with the inexplicable finality AOL has shown towards several ISPs isn't making the world a better or more spam-free place.
Repeat after me: arrogant zealotry is a bad thing, and we could use less of it.
- How can it be determined whether the use is commercial or not? I assume they mean you can't re-distribute the content for profit, but what about using the material as research for books or other for-sale works?
- What will the RIAA say? Surely they won't just lie down while Beatles performances, John Peel Sessions, and other huge cash cows are available for free.
- What will the MPAA say? Apologies for not having done my research, but surely there are DVDs for sale at Best Buy of content distributed by members of the MPAA?
- Will it only be material the BBC explicitly produced? Surely they, like other networks, have broadcast shows or footage that they didn't create.
- What formats will be used? This seems like a thorny issue. Many of the most popular formats have strings attached. With the hoo-ha surrounding proprietary image and sound recording formats, what's the best set of technologies to use?
- How long will it take to get the material online? It seems like this will be a never-ending project, with new content being created 24/7.
- What will the order of precedence be? Will it be FIFO, FILO, by popularity, by media type?
This is terribly exciting... I hope other media outlets follow suit.What SP6 actually did (IIRC) was not to disable SMTP for Notes specifically, but to bind port 1352 to another process, which is THE main port that Notes/Domino uses to communicate (as important as port 80 is to a web server).
The conspiracy theorists suggested that M$ did it on purpose, this was at a time when the TCO wars were at a peak between Lotus/IBM and M$.
I'm from Texas so I shouldn't bitch, but the idea of the cast from Fargo jibber jabbering about every inane little event that happened on their vacation... Amtrack's still in business, right?
So you'd be willing to see your mom, sister, son, friend go to prison, lose the right to vote, serve in the military, own a firearm, and most of the other things guaranteed in the Bill of Rights over 10 cents worth of royalties?
With friends like you, who needs Hilary Rosen?
Uh, "fine" as in they wouldn't have been legally accountable to the thousands of people they defrauded. Good point, bad example.
Well, or move away from that neighbor.
George Carlin recommended keeping your hands at 9:45 and 2:15. That way you have an extra half hour to get where you're going.
We should leap-frog gesture technology and go straight to this.
But Seriously. Yes, safety innovations are worthwhile. However, at the risk of sounding like a hystronic dumbass, your car is not a goddamn entertainment center! Work the CD player, yap on the phone, eat a taco, crank up the A/C, turn around and shriek at the kids... I even see advertisements for in-dash TV/VCR/DVD screens.
Maybe the answer is getting cars to drive themselves with GPS or something. That way we won't distract Joe Consumer with the tedious task of driving, leaving him free to settle back with a bucket of KFC and some pr0n on the way to the mall.
It's like the Simpsons' episode where the police called all the scofflaws and told them they won a boat.
Is that you, Darl?
So, next time if you wanna make CDs, or you have a rush job and still want to have high quality CDs made, give Malaysia a call.
OK what is their phone number?
Just out of curiosity, has anyone examined the effects of whatever might happen *outside* the US?
I realize that American oligarchies have a pretty long arm into parts of Europe, but what about China, certain South American countries, and other places where US contract law has a market value just slightly below a rat's ass?
Let's say SCO's case is in fact iron clad, bullet proof, and all around just peachy. Is Darth McBride going to send Kim Jong Il a cease and desist letter? I'd like to see that. It is in some ways reminiscent of Sharman/KaZaA, they have (IIRC) developers in Europe, are incorporated in a Pacific Rim protectorate of Australia, and source code in a 3rd locale I can't remember. A US judge might be able to put a crimp in their cable to the states, but that's about it.
So what will the outcome be other than to harm American companies/software and those companies/software where there is some kind of reciprocity on US contract law? If SCO wins, yeah, IBM may have to stop shipping AIX (not likely, but let's say), but what about the rest of the world? Anybody?
Maybe this could be Bush's next excuse to bomb a 3rd world nation into oblivion: "they were violating our IP!!"
I thought the title said Enterprise OS. All of the >$10 Billion/year companies I've written software for run *nix on Sun and/or *nix and/or an IBM OS on medium to big iron. They are not running Windows as an "Enterprise" platform.
I'm not talking email servers where a few poor sap CIOs got talked into running Exchange farms, or similar unfortunate tragedies with IIS, I'm talking the ERP stuff that runs the factory, accounting, payroll, and other stuff people have to bet their businesses on.
I realize OS/390 and Windoze are apples and oranges, but come one, they said ENTERPRISE. Now if they mean "Enterprise" as 2 guys and a van and a laptop, then hell yeah bring on the Windows. Otherwise, it's like having a review of the world's fastest street cars pitting Acura vs. Mazda vs. Toyota. The Lamborghini and Ferrari folks are tapping their feet and rolling their eyes. Put DB2 on an S/390 and on the bitchinest Windows box you can get your hands on, then do the test. I dare you.
And start making hot chicks who become helplessly aroused when exposed to discussions such as LILO vs. GRUB, whether Episode IV should be released on DVD as-is or digitally remastered first, and what the best strategies for home brew are. Don't tell me nerds aren't at the heart of this project, quit fscking around with the damn fish and get on it!
1) I am convinced that each of these people has a golden parachute, either through stock manipulation or M$ "contribution" to their cause. Otherwise, why commit suicide? They may never *have* to work again
2) People have short memroies. Remember Mark Fuhrman? Although he was publicly shown to be a racist, fascist a-hole, he is alive and well and "continues his work as an award-winning author and radio show host."
Do his listeners know or care? Probably not. He's famous, that's what's important.
I think you mean Dark Helmet
(OS = operating system not open source, he is attached to the CS department) at the University of Texas @ Austin. In his pre-academic career he wrote systems that helped land men on the moon. Though his classes are usually more theoretical than practical, *nix is a standard tool for class projects. I tried to tell him he was fscked because SCO ownzered all his course material, but he just kept saying SC-who? Jeez, the Fresh Prince was right, parents just don't understand.
- Darl C. McBride - President and Chief Executive Officer
- Robert K. Bench - Chief Financial Officer
- Sean Wilson - Senior Vice President, Corporate Development
- Jeff Hunsaker - Senior Vice President, Worldwide Marketing
- Chris Sontag - Senior Vice President and General Manager, SCOsource Division
- Opinder Bawa - Senior Vice President, Engineering and Global Services
- Reg Broughton - Senior Vice President, Worldwide Operations
- Larry Gasparro - Senior Vice President, North America Sales
Each has a bio page, but no email address.My personal armchair quarterback opinion:
How about the red Manolo patent leather pumps? They fit both the "shiny" and "patent" part of your request...
Your (slashdot_commentator (444053)) post should be modded -1: Flamebait. Jabs at entire cultures ("Oh, I forgot, the US kids aren't so good with it [math]") might seem cool to you, and apparently they are even to the /. moderators who gave you +5, but it won't get the human race anywhere. Shame on you.