It's actually pretty easy[0]. Examples of the method can be seen in scientific papers[1] and text-only publishing formats such as electronic mailing lists[2].
If it was a joke, then fine. However realise that the web is a very lossy medium when considering how accurately intended sarcasm/humour can be interpreted by those reading a post.:)
Your beef with the Debian development is not incorrect, and you are not the only one who feels this way. However a more appropriate venue to discuss this problem in general would be debian-devel@lists.debian.org.
While having Debian's PAM package lagging so far behind upstream is annoying, PAM is also a package that is of critical importance to the operation and security of a machine running Debian. It is the kind of package that is probably better off being maintained by a fairly conservative maintianer.
I can't really comment on the multiple-arch problem. As far as I'm concerned it does not exist; my packages get autobuilt automatically and so supporting the twelve architecture imposes no burden on me. Maintaners of buggier packages may have to debug and fix problems that manifest themselves on other archs, but this process results in software that runs on more systems and is less buggy, so it seems to me that the only ones who complain about it are lazy maintaners who don't really care about doing a good enough job. If they choose to part ways with the project, I will not complain.
[15:49] <vorlon> marga: as I've commented elsewhere, my mental schedule of not working on pam this week now has a mental note added to it indicating that I'm doing so with spite
Why can't OpenSSH use PGP keys for challenge/response authentication? Then DDs would only have one private key to keep track of.
I wonder how much this intrusion has cost the project, and how that value compares to the cost of setting up and distributing to developers security tokens or smart cards.
Of course, in this case the developer's machine was cracked (I wonder how?) and so none of these precautions would have prevented the breech.
first [in 2003] we had the hack into the repository severs, and we didn't know whether or not we are running exploited code when we use apt-get to update our programs
To be safe, you should always use command -- *, just as you always escape variable expansions with double, quotes: "$VARIABLE_THAT_MAY_CONTAIN_SPACES_ETC"
Ugh, I hate that behaviour. I wish it would use readline's default behaviour. The alternatives ('microsoft' and 'microsaucer') would be listed, and after that the original prompt completed up to 'micro' would appear.
(Readline is the line input library used by Bash and lots of other GNU/Linux software that presents a command-line interface).
I think corporations should be punished heavily when they try to get away with abusive practices to trim down the ammount of users that get abused and also to be fair to the corporations who really do make an effort in being fair.
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If you don't like their customer service, don't buy their products. The market will decide whether good customer service is worth the extra cost.
One way to make such a bug report actually useful would be to install an http proxy and attach the proxy log to your bug report. That way it should be easy to reproduce the pattern of sites that cause you to run out of memory.
Won't work. Users in developing countries are often behind four or five layers of NAT. Many countries are afraid to even ask for additional IP addresses, fearing that they will lose face if their requests are denied.
JC DENTON I don't see anything amusing about spying on people.
MORPHEUS Human beings feel pleasure when they are watched. I have recorded their smiles as I tell them who they are.
JC DENTON Some people just don't understand the dangers of indiscriminate surveillance.
MORPHEUS The need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by God. Now we can implement the same functionality with data-mining algorithms.
JC DENTON Electronic surveillance hardly inspired reverence. Perhaps fear and obedience, but not reverence.
MORPHEUS God and the gods were apparitions of observation, judgment, and punishment. Other sentiments toward them were secondary.
JC DENTON No one will ever worship a software entity peering at them through a camera.
MORPHEUS The human organism always worships. First it was the gods, then it was fame (the observation and judgment of others), next it will be the self-aware systems you have built to realize truly omnipresent observation and judgment.
JC DENTON You underestimate humankind's love of freedom.
MORPHEUS The individual desires judgment. Without that desire, the cohesion of groups is impossible, and so is civilization. The human being created civilization not because of a willingness but because of a need to be assimilated into higher orders of structure and meaning. God was a dream of good government. You will soon have your God, and you will make it with your own hands. I was made to assist you. I am a prototype of a much larger system.
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Nonsense. Address scarcity already means that many users in developing countries are already hidden away behind five(!) layers of NAT.
It's actually pretty easy[0]. Examples of the method can be seen in scientific papers[1] and text-only publishing formats such as electronic mailing lists[2].
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[0] http://www.answers.com/easy
[1] http://pdos.csail.mit.edu/scigen/rooter.pdf
[2] http://lists.debian.org/debian-news/debian-news-2
FYI, ext2fsd is a Free Software alternative to the fs-driver.org IFS.
If it was a joke, then fine. However realise that the web is a very lossy medium when considering how accurately intended sarcasm/humour can be interpreted by those reading a post. :)
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Your beef with the Debian development is not incorrect, and you are not the only one who feels this way. However a more appropriate venue to discuss this problem in general would be debian-devel@lists.debian.org.
Also, I'm not sure what relevance of the age of the kernel bug is, since the kernel upstream rejected the LSM patches; you really want to track http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=
While having Debian's PAM package lagging so far behind upstream is annoying, PAM is also a package that is of critical importance to the operation and security of a machine running Debian. It is the kind of package that is probably better off being maintained by a fairly conservative maintianer.
I can't really comment on the multiple-arch problem. As far as I'm concerned it does not exist; my packages get autobuilt automatically and so supporting the twelve architecture imposes no burden on me. Maintaners of buggier packages may have to debug and fix problems that manifest themselves on other archs, but this process results in software that runs on more systems and is less buggy, so it seems to me that the only ones who complain about it are lazy maintaners who don't really care about doing a good enough job. If they choose to part ways with the project, I will not complain.
It really doesn't become clear. I have to say though, if you want a bug to be fixed, trolling Slashdot is not the way to get it done.
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http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=
[15:49] <vorlon> marga: as I've commented elsewhere, my mental schedule of
not working on pam this week now has a mental note added to it indicating
that I'm doing so with spite
http://www.us.debian.org/News/2006/20060713
Why can't OpenSSH use PGP keys for challenge/response authentication? Then DDs would only have one private key to keep track of.
I wonder how much this intrusion has cost the project, and how that value compares to the cost of setting up and distributing to developers security tokens or smart cards.
Of course, in this case the developer's machine was cracked (I wonder how?) and so none of these precautions would have prevented the breech.
Ah, but the Debian operating system includes the applications and services, not just the base system. :)
It is not in the current stable release (Debian 3.1 AKA sarge). However, users of sarge can download a backport of apt 0.6 from http://backports.org/.
"this module is rejected upstream" seems like a pretty good reason to reject the patch to me.
http://www.debian.org/News/2003/20031121
The vulnerability they were hit by was a previously unknown vulnerability in the kernel.
Perhaps it is the first step towards the production of an automated spelling nazi bot.
To be safe, you should always use command -- *, just as you always escape variable expansions with double, quotes: "$VARIABLE_THAT_MAY_CONTAIN_SPACES_ETC"
Ugh, I hate that behaviour. I wish it would use readline's default behaviour. The alternatives ('microsoft' and 'microsaucer') would be listed, and after that the original prompt completed up to 'micro' would appear.
(Readline is the line input library used by Bash and lots of other GNU/Linux software that presents a command-line interface).
If no one provides decent customer service then build your own PCs. You could even make some money doint it.
If you don't like their customer service, don't buy their products. The market will decide whether good customer service is worth the extra cost.
Cite please.
I thought Microsoft's stuff was added under com.microsoft? I'm definitely not sure though.
And wasn't there a second lawsuit that forced MS to resume distributing their JVM?
That's why dictionary entries contain the IPA spelling of a word. :)
One way to make such a bug report actually useful would be to install an http proxy and attach the proxy log to your bug report. That way it should be easy to reproduce the pattern of sites that cause you to run out of memory.
JC DENTON
I don't see anything amusing about spying on people.
MORPHEUS
Human beings feel pleasure when they are watched. I have recorded their smiles
as I tell them who they are.
JC DENTON
Some people just don't understand the dangers of indiscriminate surveillance.
MORPHEUS
The need to be observed and understood was once satisfied by God. Now we can
implement the same functionality with data-mining algorithms.
JC DENTON
Electronic surveillance hardly inspired reverence. Perhaps fear and obedience,
but not reverence.
MORPHEUS
God and the gods were apparitions of observation, judgment, and punishment.
Other sentiments toward them were secondary.
JC DENTON
No one will ever worship a software entity peering at them through a camera.
MORPHEUS
The human organism always worships. First it was the gods, then it was fame
(the observation and judgment of others), next it will be the self-aware
systems you have built to realize truly omnipresent observation and judgment.
JC DENTON
You underestimate humankind's love of freedom.
MORPHEUS
The individual desires judgment. Without that desire, the cohesion of groups
is impossible, and so is civilization.
The human being created civilization not because of a willingness but because
of a need to be assimilated into higher orders of structure and meaning.
God was a dream of good government.
You will soon have your God, and you will make it with your own hands.
I was made to assist you.
I am a prototype of a much larger system.