We don't care about the download size, damnit. It's bloated yes, because it uses shitloads of memory. There are huge memory leaks in there and everyone just pretends they ain't there. I guess it's ain't cool to say that. Bah...
Ever tried to load say a 12 mb html file with huge combobox or something in firefox (yeah i have a client silly enough to require me to do that, because clicking next is tedious...) ? once the file is processed, (10 minutes later) you end up with about 300 megs taken by firefox. And this memory just stays there if you go to say google and load small pages after that. And it's not just huge pages like that, everyone knows that with maybe 10 table, firefox will take between 70 and 100 megs of ram. I've been a big big supporter of mozilla, but i'm really annoyed that they're more concerned about hitting 1.0 than fixing the obvious and embarrasing bugs. I thought a 1.0 release meant stable as hell in oss world, but eveything goes away those days...
Now go on, mod me as troll, i ain't cool.
There are mistakes you can learn from by reading, e.g you can understand that reading a stream using a particular technique is bad in whatever circumstance because of this and that.
But the most important mistakes generally seems obvious when you read them, and you only realize you felt in the trap, and why it's so easy to fell in it once you've made it using your own flawed logic. Then you realize you're in the exact situation this damn book told you was bad, and you start to realize why the book tried to warn you. No it wasn't so obvious, because it seems so logical and fits well at first glance. What the book didn't tell you is how to recognise the start of a reasonment that will lead to this error... A detailled modelisation should be able to see those problems before implementation, but the modelisation is never detailled enough to spot everything.
Look, in france last week someone's speed "controler" (the thing used to ensure you don't go faster than a given speed) got totally crazy, and he had to drive at more than 200km/h for 30 minutes because the thing simply couldn't stop. At the same time, breaks stopped working and he couldn't do anything but turn left or right. The manufacturer says it's totally impossible that all those things happened at the same time. But several persons contacted the newspapers and told it happened to them too.
Another one ? My father bought a ford focus last summer, and the things totally stopped working twice during long journeys. Basically, every damned light start blinking, the motor stops, you can't turn left or right and every breaks stops working. Hopefully it only happened when the car wasn't in motion both times. (At a traffic jam the first time, and i think after a "cold boot" the second time.)
The car was sent three times to ford. they kepts it several weeks in total but said they couldn't find the defect... Want to know what i think ? This is a fucking basic software bug that only happens when several conditions are matched, like everything will go fine until you try to open the two right windows, turn 30 degrees right and i don't know what at the same time. Then bam, core dumped...
Yep, good question. When you think about it, conceving an OS, and the language which will build it at the same time must be something totally mind blowing. Given the power computers have today, the omniprecense of networks, OO and so on, i'm pretty sure that if one conceived an OS that way today and tried to rethink everything from the beginning, he could end up with concepts we don't even dream of.After all we all still think inside concepts which were found 40 years ago, even in network terms. Things like plan9 are cool, but there is probably *much* more to be done, and the same thing can be done on the windows side.
So true, that's what drove me away from all online games. I don't know, lots of people say they are shy and don't like to socialize in real life, but very communicative behind their screens because they're "hidden".
It just doesn't work with me, i'm at least as shy in a chat than in rl, maybe even more. And when i'm playing other players generally disturb me more than anything else. In fact i prefer to socialize in real life, when i'm in front on my computer I generally want to be left alone. Those times when everyone wants to be linked permanently to say nothing aren't nearly as fun as those when you sat alone in front of your 8 bit computer and just tried to make cool things with it, if you ask me...
No-ip.com have clients for various achitectures, and is _very_ reliable (never had a single problem in maybe 3 years). Plus their clients are well thought, for example for windows you have a graphical app you can use to configure things that can go in your traybar, but you can also just run it at a service once it is configured and forget about it. No desktop clutter, nag or whatever.
I'm so sick of ppl paraphrasing the post i've read two pages ago. Maybe it's not your case and you just happened to say the same thing without reading the other post, but... i read thousands of slashdot posts mentionning the slashdot effect taking down servers, and this is the first one where i see someone mentionning that of course it's the network capacity, not the server. And there you are, 5 posts later, saying the same thing like if you were very insightfull or something...
But in most cases it's much worse, you'll see 10 peoples paraphrasing a previous post with the logic articulations and everything. Like, 200 posts without the mention of a specific point, and suddently, 10 posters have the same idea and post it... And they'll all be modded insightful or informative. What are moderators doing ?? Ah but i forgot, most of slashdot readers are just math geeks and think litteracy skills are worthless. As a concequence, They're unable to see that two posts phrased differently can mean exactly the same thing, they're not using the same words, after all. seesh...
Besides, we all understand that of course it's the network that runs out of bandwith, and not the server itself who dies. Still, the server (like in the soft that serves content to the network) is "dead", like in it cannot be used from the network any more during the slashdot effect. It's just a language shortcut...
Please don't take all of the above for yourself, you just happened to be the first paraphrasing poster that i read today.
Yes me too. The only problem is that even if i know this, usually when i'm coding at night i'm "zoning", in a state which pushes me to go on. So i'll search a solution for several hours generally for nothing, and i'll discover in the morning that I was doing stupid obscure things while the solution was indeed obvious...
I'm now trying to restrain myself from doing this, as sometimes you can furthermore do stupid things which will cause you to spend even more time later on, solving problems which should have never been here. Never do too much of one thing, they say... so true.
If you heard a window break in your kid's room, a scream, and an unfamiliar voice, would you knock on the door first and say, "are you dressed? Can I come in?" or would you grab the shotgun and kick the door open immediately?
I'd kick the door opened immediatly if i heard that. But i would not put a cam and mic in their room and monitor all their personnal activities just in case it can happen, which is exactly what you plan to do with your sniffer...
I think grepping for the house adress and phone, things like that is a good idea. Monitoring for porn or their personnal conversations is not. Did your mother search your whole room in every freaking corners every day to see if you hadn't hidden a porn book somewhere ? Would you have liked it ? If you had hidden one, and she had found and confiscated it, would that have helped you in any way in your life ?
What would be really interesting is to have google browser stats. Anybody knows if they're available somewhere ?
What could be more accurate than google to evaluate a browser penetration ? It probably has the most large panel of users of the web...
So you really think it's that simple ?
Your code is probably full of security holes, just like everybody's, and the fact that you think it's so simple is a clear evidence... Look, even Knuth was so certain that his code could not possibly be bugged that he promised a prize for the persons who would find bugs. And still, some were found. And we are talking about a program that was mathematically provable, and made by the living god of computer science, damnit ! And you think that your code, which is sitting on dozens of layers speaking to each others in your back, and made with a high level language, cannot possibly have an unknow bug which could cause a security hole ? If so, then you're a security hole yourself.
Every developper knows that...
It happened to each of us, no need to be an expert or something: the bug drives you nuts, and you end up saying "fsck that" and go out, totally out of ideas. Then you smoke your cigarette of whatever, or go for a walk. And because you've sort of given up, you start to look at the problem in a different way, probably also because you're not in front of your screen and your brain is more "free", you realize that there are some obvious things that you didn't checked... And 5 minuts later, there is no more bug. That's why i go out to smoke a cig every hour (well not really, but still, it's a nice excuse;)
Besides, if you look at the well known "eureka" moments, it seems they all happened when the person was relaxing. Maybe we should be forced to relax each time we're facing an intellectual difficulty, really...
SQL doesn't fit that well with filesystems, btw. Relational databases work great with rigid categories. But beyond very rudimentary classification it won't work well because everybody has their own idea of what a good classification should look like.
Nonsense!
Of course SQL doesn't oblige you to have rigid categories.
insert into metadata_categories (cat_lib) values, ('photo'); INSERT:1; insert into assoc_categories_fields (field_type, field_lib, cat_id) values ('text', 'photo description', 1); insert into assoc_categories_fields (field_type, field_lib) values (boolean, 'black and white', 1); insert into assoc_categories_fields (field_type, field_lib) values ('int', 'width', 1); insert into assoc_categories_fields (field_type, field_lib) values ('int', 'height', 1);
insert into metadata_categories (cat_lib, based_on) values, ('photos grandma', 'photos'); INSERT:2 insert into assoc_categories_fields (field_type, field_lib) values ('boolean', 'before grandma moved to london');
Don't understand, where's the insoluble problem ?
The server could issue a timestamp when the new turn instruction is sent to the player, and stop it once the move is received. The client doesn't have to send a timestamp, the timestamp is the moment when the move is received serverside. Why can't they simply do that ?
Ah, unless they want to start counting only when the client effectively received the packet, and sent an ack to the server ?
What other posters say is true, don't put your job at risk if you have to install Oracle or other Redhat only things.
But I hope debian will be better supported in the future, it's really better serverside. It seems big players know this, but only support what PHBs want. For example I have read in numerous places that HP uses debian internally. But their server tools can be only installed on redhat or suse, even if they probably have an internal debian version. But it seems things are starting to move slowlyn as more and more users are installing debian anyway when it is possible and stating it in the forums.
Realize that there is no left in the US, what they call left is called in most countries right, and not even moderate right. Really, democrats are more "rightists" than most right political parties in europe, and what we call left would probably be tagged as communism or something like that.
Every recent oses now boots from a CD, and offers the emergency disk facilities through the same cd. It's been at least three year since I had to use a boot floppy.
On the other hand, 2k server asked me to give it scsi drivers on a floppy to enter rescue mode last week... Hopefully one of the three laptop we had there still had floppy...
Yes but for very specialized apps that you only use once in a while it could make a lot of sense.
For example i'm in a very little (4 ppl) software company, we only have to modelize new apps at most twice a year, but the soft costs huge bucks for us. If we could just rent the soft two weeks when we're starting a new project instead of buying it and maybe have to rebuy it the year after because some needed features are added, it would be worth it.
In emacs style, where C=ctrl and M=meta, generally Alt on a pc.
Beginning of line : C-a
End of line : C-e
Preceding word: M-b
Next word: M-c
delete word after cursor: M-d
delete word before cursor: M-backspace
kill (end of) line: C-k
paste (previously killed ):C-y
Reverse search : C-r, then type the first letters of a command you previously entered, enter to redo command, C-c to quit
Others:
M-u: capitalize word after cursor
M-l : decapitalize word
M-c : capitalize letter after cursor
C-t: invert letters
And of course TAB for command and filename completion.
Using those instead of the cursor keys makes a lot of sense with others shortcuts too:
C-b: preceding letter, C-f:next letter
Of course, but the point here is that the gpu wasn't designed to be used that way, and you certainly didn't bought your graphic card in this purpose, did you ? So it adds processing power, for free. Unlike buying a DSP...
Using specialized processors to do other things ain't nothing new either, but here we have very powerful processors, which are indeed doing nothing most of the time (well, until pcs have something like quartz...)
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We don't care about the download size, damnit. It's bloated yes, because it uses shitloads of memory. There are huge memory leaks in there and everyone just pretends they ain't there. I guess it's ain't cool to say that. Bah...
Ever tried to load say a 12 mb html file with huge combobox or something in firefox (yeah i have a client silly enough to require me to do that, because clicking next is tedious...) ? once the file is processed, (10 minutes later) you end up with about 300 megs taken by firefox. And this memory just stays there if you go to say google and load small pages after that. And it's not just huge pages like that, everyone knows that with maybe 10 table, firefox will take between 70 and 100 megs of ram. I've been a big big supporter of mozilla, but i'm really annoyed that they're more concerned about hitting 1.0 than fixing the obvious and embarrasing bugs. I thought a 1.0 release meant stable as hell in oss world, but eveything goes away those days...
Now go on, mod me as troll, i ain't cool.
The worst part is that it was modded +5 insightful, huh !
There are mistakes you can learn from by reading, e.g you can understand that reading a stream using a particular technique is bad in whatever circumstance because of this and that.
But the most important mistakes generally seems obvious when you read them, and you only realize you felt in the trap, and why it's so easy to fell in it once you've made it using your own flawed logic. Then you realize you're in the exact situation this damn book told you was bad, and you start to realize why the book tried to warn you. No it wasn't so obvious, because it seems so logical and fits well at first glance.
What the book didn't tell you is how to recognise the start of a reasonment that will lead to this error...
A detailled modelisation should be able to see those problems before implementation, but the modelisation is never detailled enough to spot everything.
No, gentoo now shifts version numbers to make sure you're not out of date when you finished compiling.
Not alarmist ? this is fscking scary!
Look, in france last week someone's speed "controler" (the thing used to ensure you don't go faster than a given speed) got totally crazy, and he had to drive at more than 200km/h for 30 minutes because the thing simply couldn't stop. At the same time, breaks stopped working and he couldn't do anything but turn left or right. The manufacturer says it's totally impossible that all those things happened at the same time. But several persons contacted the newspapers and told it happened to them too.
Another one ? My father bought a ford focus last summer, and the things totally stopped working twice during long journeys. Basically, every damned light start blinking, the motor stops, you can't turn left or right and every breaks stops working. Hopefully it only happened when the car wasn't in motion both times. (At a traffic jam the first time, and i think after a "cold boot" the second time.)
The car was sent three times to ford. they kepts it several weeks in total but said they couldn't find the defect...
Want to know what i think ? This is a fucking basic software bug that only happens when several conditions are matched, like everything will go fine until you try to open the two right windows, turn 30 degrees right and i don't know what at the same time. Then bam, core dumped...
Yep, good question. When you think about it, conceving an OS, and the language which will build it at the same time must be something totally mind blowing.
Given the power computers have today, the omniprecense of networks, OO and so on, i'm pretty sure that if one conceived an OS that way today and tried to rethink everything from the beginning, he could end up with concepts we don't even dream of.After all we all still think inside concepts which were found 40 years ago, even in network terms.
Things like plan9 are cool, but there is probably *much* more to be done, and the same thing can be done on the windows side.
So true, that's what drove me away from all online games. I don't know, lots of people say they are shy and don't like to socialize in real life, but very communicative behind their screens because they're "hidden".
It just doesn't work with me, i'm at least as shy in a chat than in rl, maybe even more. And when i'm playing other players generally disturb me more than anything else. In fact i prefer to socialize in real life, when i'm in front on my computer I generally want to be left alone. Those times when everyone wants to be linked permanently to say nothing aren't nearly as fun as those when you sat alone in front of your 8 bit computer and just tried to make cool things with it, if you ask me...
No-ip.com have clients for various achitectures, and is _very_ reliable (never had a single problem in maybe 3 years). Plus their clients are well thought, for example for windows you have a graphical app you can use to configure things that can go in your traybar, but you can also just run it at a service once it is configured and forget about it. No desktop clutter, nag or whatever.
-1, redundant.
I'm so sick of ppl paraphrasing the post i've read two pages ago. Maybe it's not your case and you just happened to say the same thing without reading the other post, but... i read thousands of slashdot posts mentionning the slashdot effect taking down servers, and this is the first one where i see someone mentionning that of course it's the network capacity, not the server. And there you are, 5 posts later, saying the same thing like if you were very insightfull or something...
But in most cases it's much worse, you'll see 10 peoples paraphrasing a previous post with the logic articulations and everything. Like, 200 posts without the mention of a specific point, and suddently, 10 posters have the same idea and post it... And they'll all be modded insightful or informative. What are moderators doing ?? Ah but i forgot, most of slashdot readers are just math geeks and think litteracy skills are worthless. As a concequence, They're unable to see that two posts phrased differently can mean exactly the same thing, they're not using the same words, after all. seesh...
Besides, we all understand that of course it's the network that runs out of bandwith, and not the server itself who dies. Still, the server (like in the soft that serves content to the network) is "dead", like in it cannot be used from the network any more during the slashdot effect. It's just a language shortcut...
Please don't take all of the above for yourself, you just happened to be the first paraphrasing poster that i read today.
no noticeable difference here, really
Yes me too. The only problem is that even if i know this, usually when i'm coding at night i'm "zoning", in a state which pushes me to go on. So i'll search a solution for several hours generally for nothing, and i'll discover in the morning that I was doing stupid obscure things while the solution was indeed obvious...
I'm now trying to restrain myself from doing this, as sometimes you can furthermore do stupid things which will cause you to spend even more time later on, solving problems which should have never been here. Never do too much of one thing, they say... so true.
If you heard a window break in your kid's room, a scream, and an unfamiliar voice, would you knock on the door first and say, "are you dressed? Can I come in?" or would you grab the shotgun and kick the door open immediately?
I'd kick the door opened immediatly if i heard that. But i would not put a cam and mic in their room and monitor all their personnal activities just in case it can happen, which is exactly what you plan to do with your sniffer...
I think grepping for the house adress and phone, things like that is a good idea. Monitoring for porn or their personnal conversations is not. Did your mother search your whole room in every freaking corners every day to see if you hadn't hidden a porn book somewhere ? Would you have liked it ? If you had hidden one, and she had found and confiscated it, would that have helped you in any way in your life ?
What would be really interesting is to have google browser stats. Anybody knows if they're available somewhere ?
What could be more accurate than google to evaluate a browser penetration ? It probably has the most large panel of users of the web...
So you really think it's that simple ?
Your code is probably full of security holes, just like everybody's, and the fact that you think it's so simple is a clear evidence...
Look, even Knuth was so certain that his code could not possibly be bugged that he promised a prize for the persons who would find bugs. And still, some were found. And we are talking about a program that was mathematically provable, and made by the living god of computer science, damnit !
And you think that your code, which is sitting on dozens of layers speaking to each others in your back, and made with a high level language, cannot possibly have an unknow bug which could cause a security hole ?
If so, then you're a security hole yourself.
Every developper knows that... ;)
It happened to each of us, no need to be an expert or something: the bug drives you nuts, and you end up saying "fsck that" and go out, totally out of ideas. Then you smoke your cigarette of whatever, or go for a walk. And because you've sort of given up, you start to look at the problem in a different way, probably also because you're not in front of your screen and your brain is more "free", you realize that there are some obvious things that you didn't checked... And 5 minuts later, there is no more bug. That's why i go out to smoke a cig every hour (well not really, but still, it's a nice excuse
Besides, if you look at the well known "eureka" moments, it seems they all happened when the person was relaxing. Maybe we should be forced to relax each time we're facing an intellectual difficulty, really...
Nonsense!
Of course SQL doesn't oblige you to have rigid categories.
Don't understand, where's the insoluble problem ?
The server could issue a timestamp when the new turn instruction is sent to the player, and stop it once the move is received. The client doesn't have to send a timestamp, the timestamp is the moment when the move is received serverside. Why can't they simply do that ?
Ah, unless they want to start counting only when the client effectively received the packet, and sent an ack to the server ?
What other posters say is true, don't put your job at risk if you have to install Oracle or other Redhat only things.
But I hope debian will be better supported in the future, it's really better serverside. It seems big players know this, but only support what PHBs want. For example I have read in numerous places that HP uses debian internally. But their server tools can be only installed on redhat or suse, even if they probably have an internal debian version. But it seems things are starting to move slowlyn as more and more users are installing debian anyway when it is possible and stating it in the forums.
Realize that there is no left in the US, what they call left is called in most countries right, and not even moderate right. Really, democrats are more "rightists" than most right political parties in europe, and what we call left would probably be tagged as communism or something like that.
Every recent oses now boots from a CD, and offers the emergency disk facilities through the same cd. It's been at least three year since I had to use a boot floppy.
On the other hand, 2k server asked me to give it scsi drivers on a floppy to enter rescue mode last week... Hopefully one of the three laptop we had there still had floppy...
Yes but for very specialized apps that you only use once in a while it could make a lot of sense.
For example i'm in a very little (4 ppl) software company, we only have to modelize new apps at most twice a year, but the soft costs huge bucks for us.
If we could just rent the soft two weeks when we're starting a new project instead of buying it and maybe have to rebuy it the year after because some needed features are added, it would be worth it.
OC'ing has stability issues, heat issues for generally little real gain, and you loose the warranty on your chip... Why would they do that ?
In emacs style, where C=ctrl and M=meta, generally Alt on a pc. Beginning of line : C-a
:
End of line : C-e
Preceding word: M-b
Next word: M-c
delete word after cursor: M-d
delete word before cursor: M-backspace
kill (end of) line: C-k
paste (previously killed ):C-y Reverse search : C-r, then type the first letters of a command you previously entered, enter to redo command, C-c to quit
Others: M-u: capitalize word after cursor
M-l : decapitalize word M-c : capitalize letter after cursor
C-t: invert letters
And of course TAB for command and filename completion.
Using those instead of the cursor keys makes a lot of sense with others shortcuts too
C-b: preceding letter, C-f:next letter
Of course, but the point here is that the gpu wasn't designed to be used that way, and you certainly didn't bought your graphic card in this purpose, did you ? So it adds processing power, for free. Unlike buying a DSP...
Using specialized processors to do other things ain't nothing new either, but here we have very powerful processors, which are indeed doing nothing most of the time (well, until pcs have something like quartz...)
Errr it's already the case since a few years, if you're a hardcore gamer (with money).