Not to blow your horn, but Poag (and I was in your class btw), the chemistry dept scenario doesnt even nearly a fraction of the amount of data that this ethernet connection does. And if you didn't know, the campus wide LAN at UofA was connected via fiber, but you'd always face the department bottle necks cause the local building LANs were usually 10mbits or in the case of GS building 100mbits.
I don't see how what you just wrote is any relevant. Just like anything you talk about, even in school:) So stop trolling alright;) You should stick to that graphics and make something good instead of this lameness.
I agree different heuristics should be used on different querries. A node can be promoted up the ladder depending on the speed, the quality (see the fake mp3 problem), and the realiablity of service it provides.
Searches need to be cached and stop and forwarding techquies need to be used instead of the current boadcast methods. We need to store the search results for a given amount of time and intelligently compare it which peers that would give the best results.
Also we need efficent QoS methods and dynamically adapting those to the network enivornment. QoS on modem connections should be much more different to say someone on OC3 connections.
Also as someone mentioned we need better methods of keeping track of efficent routes, I believe the whole thing lies in making the nodes behave more like routers and intelligent routers in that. We have almost limitless amount of memory for routing storage, why not use it?
If your on a marginally slow network (say upto a T1 (24 lines at 64 kbps)) and if you enable full node peering support on a Gnutella like network, you know why Random Walkers is needed. Cause the networks have become so huge, most of the bandwidth is taken by message searches. Even if you are not a node peer you would still be saturated by these.
The Random Walker idea isn't new, it was tried a few times before as well on the orginal Gnutella network when they first came out. But, I don't think Random Walkers would be the answer to this network, the bigger the network gets, even Random Walkers would saturate the bandwidth and all you'd have is these bots finding the optimal path to files.
Presently the network works much like how old routhers worked. Search packets are broadcasted to peering nodes which then broadcast the same packets off to their own neighbors. But the problem is that their own neigbors are sometimes the ones that sent the orignial packets. If this was to be done efficently (and how routers implement it), they need to create buffers to hold searches, once a search is recived a search would not be propagated to the other peers, it would be held for a given time period (say a few milliseconds), the node would then wait for the same search to appear from other neighoring nodes, it if does then it wouldnt send this search off down that node. This would cut down a lot of the wasted bandwidth and I am not sure why Gnutella ppl didn't model p2p after these routing methods.
Walkers in an intellient routing setup would be the most optimial way of doing p2p, hopefully this would loose up some of on the congestion on the current p2p networks and let people with less bandwidth access to the shared files with the least sacrifice on bandwitdh for searches.
'Harry doesn't know how long it will take to wash the sticky cream cake off his face,'
'For a civilised young man it is disgusting to have dirt on any part of his body.
'He lies in the high-quality china bathtub, keeps wiping his face, and thinks about Dali's face, which is as fat as the bottom of Aunt Penny.'
'He keeps wonder what it is to be man when he grow up then Ginny can be wife and have two children as directed by the Queen Lizerbath II'
'The soap bubble go up then flop down next to the now dead soap bubble.'
'Harry wave his thumb and flies in his magic stick which he wave at bubble, bubble turn into TV and he watch BBC where there is a show about how to capture his uncle Black'
'Harry is not happy'
'Harry looks down and see he is man now, but he grow not tall, maybe if he play basketball he might but in England Harry only play soccer, that till Harry in school then he play his favourite sport'
'Harry turn TV into bubble then say prayer to Jesus before walking to kitchen where Aunt Penny is angry with Harry again'
'Aunt Penny look at Harry and scream'
AUNT PENNY : 'HELP HELP It's the man from Austin powers, help help!'
'Harry look puzzle and rub his scar then look in mirror'
'Harry sees mini me, Harry feel heart break into one piece'...
Same thing happend to me earlier today, even when I pressed preview, all I got was garbled links, till I scratched that comment posting and posted a new comment. I think there is something wrong with the comment posting section of the slash code (in particular the html filters), could someone verify this.
I love Andrew Lipson's Math site, thought it was on slashdot for a while. If you like to see other such sites check out Eric Harshbarge's Lego page (cool stuff like wedding cakes and skyscrapers), Henry Lim's totally awsome lego sculptures, he's even got Natalie Portman (Not naked, and next to the petrified beethovan). BTW, Eric's got a very interesting page on on San Mononoke (more on those).
I also evaluating a box that seems to clearly kick butt on the Pro800Turbo. This box is called the "Mark II" from Net Integration Technologies out of Canada. I have one here in my lab right now and testing begins this afternoon. If you want to see it, go to: http://www.gdbsolutions.com/netitech/markii.p df
So far I haven't seen any satisfactory black box solutions for under a grand. If you want to do it right, spend a little more money and be pleasantly surprised.
I have been unsatisfied with the Pro800Turbo. It is not able to properly act as a DNS relay when working with multiple WANs (ISPs); if one of the ISPs goes down, the unit sometimes fails (so much for the backup capabilities); and the unit just hangs every now and then.
I have complained to Nexland technical support numerous times about the DNS problem. I purchased the router several months ago, and all they've come up with so far is the obligatory "try the new firmware" (which didn't solve the problem).
I would not recommend purchasing the Pro800Turbo at this time, as the hardware/firmware is just not good enough yet (and the tech support is not able to compensate for this shortcoming).
I am now on a multiplexing BSD implmentation (OpenBSD), the two feeds are load balanced pretty nicely (and using just an old P5 box). I don't believe I'd ever go back to the NexLand box again. Also, Linux people might be interested in load balancing in their kernels, I've not tried it msyelf, if someone has please let me know if it's worth looking into.
Re:oh boy! OpenProjects.net, the spam network!
on
DotGNU Meet-a-thon
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· Score: 1
Please mod down my parent post above, I now believe that Lilo is all that the ppl here say he is. I take back anything nice I have said about him. But Lilo should not be the cause of you not supporting OPN. OPN could exist without Lilo.
I've supported you in my previous comments, but this from you? I just compaired this comment with your own logged in comment below. I think you are Astrotufing any anti-Lilo comments here, and I found that childish.
Look LILO, whatever you are doing here doesn't help your cause. I really respected you and what you did for OPN, but this is just too childish.
I've been analayzing comments posted in support of you with regard to your own comments posted as Lilo -- logged into slashdot. And from the grammar used, from the way the sentenses were used, from the way certain words are made bold, it is highly likely that you are posting all these comments pretending to be some AC supporting you. Shame on you Lilo. I thought you were cool. But this is ridiculas and completely unprofessional.
A person of your age should not care about all the trolls who post these comments and try to flood your network. YOU ARE THE CAUSE OF YOUR TROLLS. If you stopped adding fire and salt to those flames they would have stopped long ago, do you see people trolling this bad about others who have similar positions as you?
Frankly you owe ppl an explaination and an apology.
I dont agree with you there. Ada is strongly ingrained in the gov infrastructure. There are a large amount of work done by the gov that is still being done with Ada, and not only gov, but most of the larger scientific corporations. I don't feel Java would replace them anytime soon.
A lot of people care about Ada, a lot more than Java ( I believe, from the amount of SN with respect to Java).
Re:oh boy! OpenProjects.net, the spam network!
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DotGNU Meet-a-thon
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· Score: 1, Flamebait
I know you're trolling.
But, If not for Lilo, you would not have an OPN. The dude works real hard to keep the networking running optimal. I don't think someone who spends so much time providing such great service to this community should be spoken of like that. If you dont like his wallops turn them off, you know how to do it right?
OPN is a great network, not only that it's the main gathering place for a number of big support groups (eg: Debian). Lilo keeps the network safe, clean and secure.
BTW: I know the idiot in UK who's being going around making anti-semetic statments about Lilo, he used to be an IrcOP on OPN, but got kicked out. The kid is a real sore (him and his sister), I wouldn't be suprised if you were him or those sites are his.
I totally respect anyone's decisions on what to target new development
on - it is your business.
It is a shame that COBOL has Fujitsu to develop COBOL.NET but
that Ada has no such large corporate to perform this sort of work.
Without such a sponsor it is hard to see how Ada gets out of the
catch22 of:
User: "Why use Ada when it doesn't support feature X?"
Vendor: "Why support feature X when there is no user demand?"
Perhaps there is some hope in the 'DotGNU' project. The item that
interested me in the FAQ for this is:
"1.17 Will C and C++ be supported in DotGNU?
Code which is written in C or C++ can be used with DotGNU, *if* it
is distributed with DotGNU or otherwise installed like you normally
install software. However you cannot use C or C++ to implement
webservice programs that are meant to run in the Secure Execution
Environment (SEE), like it will be possible with e.g. Java, Ada, C#
and Perl - at least not until someone solves the difficult issues of
compiling C to some kind of portable intermediate representation in
such a way that the Secure Execution Environment can efficiently
verify that the program is not trying to do something malicious."
They are behind on everthing but the Kernel. My debian PPC shows Galeon 1.2.5, Mozilla 1 RC something (I use Galeon but it backends with Mozilla), Evolution 1.0.7, and actual apt-get:)
Last week, I reformatted my IDE drive on my Pismo Powerbook and installed
Mandrake 8.2 (for the powerpc of course) on it. The DrakX Installer is
GREAT. After partitioning ther IDE with the Apple mac 'Drive Setup'
program into a small 3gig Mac OS Extended partition at the front of the
IDE drive I left the remainder of the IDE as 'Unallocated'. The DrakX
Installer found the free space on the IDE drive and created the proper/de/hdaxx devices, automagically!! Much simpler then the method that
YDL 2.2 forces you to do (in YDL2.2 you have to manually create the
Apple_Bootstrp,swap,and root devices).
The DrakX Installer offers several choices for Mac specific items such
as the monitor, keyboard and mouse. I got full mouse and sound up the
first time.
The DraskX Installer found my Cable Modem Internet connection (DHCP)
and I had internet connection on the first boot.
The only problem is the the Mandrake PrintConf program doesn't
recognize the Epson printer attached to my USB port. The printer works
fine under Mac OS8/X so I know the USB port is OK.
All in all, the Mandrake Installation was much easier than the YDL and
sound works on Mandrake 8.2
All in all I like Mandrake and will probably stay with it (on my Pismo)
Give it a try, it's simple, pretty easy btw. I'd say Mandrake is the easiest on this platform now for Linux. Debian still being the hardest (but I feel coolest:))
YDL is good for those doing the MAC-to-Linux bridge. But, if you've ever tried out debian, you'd know how much better it is, once it's installed:) It's a lot easier to maintain a Debian based system than any other distro out there (even including the FreeBSD's). It's not very hardcore and Debian doesnt really need any more knowledge than what you might already have. If you've ever compiled a kernel, then you're ready for a smooth Debian installation. If you like debian you might wanna try Gentoo btw, I believe that's for a bit more advanced group. But, any good MacOS developer/YDL user can install Debian.
This is my experience with installing Potato Debian on my iBook DVD, using the rev0 CDs. I know this story is about YDL, but a lot of people do not realize that Debian and Mandrake works just as fine on Apple hardware. And thus this walkthrough, hope it's helpful, give it a try.
This is not a Guide to Debian installation, rather a step-by-step guide (doh!). And write down what you're doing (especially partition numbers, that the reason why I'm writing this and reinstalling everything from scratch for the second time) Enjoy.
Instructions ------------
1. Boot the laptop with the iBook install, by pressing "C" during the chime
sound 2. Launch the Drive Setup, on the CD, in the Utilities directory 3. I created 2 partitions. First one is the Linux Place Holder, one big fat
partition that we'll split into all your Linux partitions during the Debian
install process. The second one is for MacOS. You might want to create 3
partitions (respectivily for Linux, MacOS, and an HFS one for sharing files
between Linux and MacOS). I'm only using MacOS to play DVDs, so it's no big
deal for me. 4. Install MacOS on the MacOS drive (don't install on the place holder for
Linux!) 5. Reboot the 'puter, it should work, otherwise bring your iBook back to the
shop and jump off a cliff.
6. Now that we're sure that the iBook and MacOS works, reboot up, and press
Option-Apple-O-F during the chime to access the Open Firmware. 7. type in "boot cd:\\yaboot". Try "boot cd:\install\powermac\yaboot" if the
former fails. 8. On the yaboot prompt, enter "debian video=aty128fb:vmode:10:depth:8:" where
debian is the name of the image you're gonna be using to boot (hit to
list the available ones). 9. Select your keyboard, and Partition your HD, following Ethan Benson's
mac-fdisk-basics.txt (see at the bottom for URL). 11. At this point I have this kind of partitioning:
hda1 to hda8: MacOS crap
hda9: Apple_Bootstrap partition
hda10: / (root)
hda11: swap
hda12:/home (home)
hda13:/opt (opt)
hda14: MacOS
(...Later...)
10. When asked if you want to "Make Linux Bootable Directly From Hard Disk",
get to another console and get a shell (on the iBook, it's a bit dodgy,
keep pressed in this order Apple-fn-F2). 11. Run this line to get your bootstrap partition initialized:
mkofboot --boot/dev/hda9 -m/target/etc/ofboot.b --root/dev/hda10 --partition 10 12. In the present state, you wouldn't be able to boot Linux because of the
(lack of) novideo option in the default yaboot.conf Edit the/target/etc/yaboot.conf. Here is what it looks like after all the editing:
13. Run that to be able to run Linux:
ybin -C/target/etc/yaboot.conf -m/target/etc/ofboot.b 14. Reboot the system, and get into the Open Firmware again 15. To boot your linux system, type in:
boot hd:9,yaboot
(...Later...)
16. Voila, you still need to configure your computer (X-Window, dial-up,
desktop...), but at least it will boot up normally =) 17. to boot up by default with Linux, run "setenv boot-device hd:9,yaboot"
within the Open Firmware. Press the Option key during the chime to boot
MacOS.
People are not robots, they are not computers, nor simple machines that use computers. We are breathing, living, human beings. And we cant work all the time, no matter what ppl tell.
It's been found that entertainment creates a better work enviornment. People are more willing to work when they have a more relaxing enviornment (When was the last time you got any work done by never taking breaks and forever working (and i mean minus mountain dews, mp3 audio on head, and the occasional/. posting)).
I think your company is doomed. Please find a good shrink to explain to your exectivies.. just how human being behave, cause they are not machines.
Pornucopia Tafford hc 89 tpb 91 (erotic fantasy: adults only) OP
What was the inspiration for this great novel? How did you go about researching this? What pointers would you like to give to an aspiring writer?
Thank you for your kind answers. :)
Not to blow your horn, but Poag (and I was in your class btw), the chemistry dept scenario doesnt even nearly a fraction of the amount of data that this ethernet connection does. And if you didn't know, the campus wide LAN at UofA was connected via fiber, but you'd always face the department bottle necks cause the local building LANs were usually 10mbits or in the case of GS building 100mbits.
:) So stop trolling alright ;) You should stick to that graphics and make something good instead of this lameness.
I don't see how what you just wrote is any relevant. Just like anything you talk about, even in school
I agree different heuristics should be used on different querries. A node can be promoted up the ladder depending on the speed, the quality (see the fake mp3 problem), and the realiablity of service it provides.
Searches need to be cached and stop and forwarding techquies need to be used instead of the current boadcast methods. We need to store the search results for a given amount of time and intelligently compare it which peers that would give the best results.
Also we need efficent QoS methods and dynamically adapting those to the network enivornment. QoS on modem connections should be much more different to say someone on OC3 connections.
Also as someone mentioned we need better methods of keeping track of efficent routes, I believe the whole thing lies in making the nodes behave more like routers and intelligent routers in that. We have almost limitless amount of memory for routing storage, why not use it?
If your on a marginally slow network (say upto a T1 (24 lines at 64 kbps)) and if you enable full node peering support on a Gnutella like network, you know why Random Walkers is needed. Cause the networks have become so huge, most of the bandwidth is taken by message searches. Even if you are not a node peer you would still be saturated by these.
The Random Walker idea isn't new, it was tried a few times before as well on the orginal Gnutella network when they first came out. But, I don't think Random Walkers would be the answer to this network, the bigger the network gets, even Random Walkers would saturate the bandwidth and all you'd have is these bots finding the optimal path to files.
Presently the network works much like how old routhers worked. Search packets are broadcasted to peering nodes which then broadcast the same packets off to their own neighbors. But the problem is that their own neigbors are sometimes the ones that sent the orignial packets. If this was to be done efficently (and how routers implement it), they need to create buffers to hold searches, once a search is recived a search would not be propagated to the other peers, it would be held for a given time period (say a few milliseconds), the node would then wait for the same search to appear from other neighoring nodes, it if does then it wouldnt send this search off down that node. This would cut down a lot of the wasted bandwidth and I am not sure why Gnutella ppl didn't model p2p after these routing methods.
Walkers in an intellient routing setup would be the most optimial way of doing p2p, hopefully this would loose up some of on the congestion on the current p2p networks and let people with less bandwidth access to the shared files with the least sacrifice on bandwitdh for searches.
'Harry doesn't know how long it will take to wash the sticky cream cake off his face,'
...
'For a civilised young man it is disgusting to have dirt on any part of his body.
'He lies in the high-quality china bathtub, keeps wiping his face, and thinks about Dali's face, which is as fat as the bottom of Aunt Penny.'
'He keeps wonder what it is to be man when he grow up then Ginny can be wife and have two children as directed by the Queen Lizerbath II'
'The soap bubble go up then flop down next to the now dead soap bubble.'
'Harry wave his thumb and flies in his magic stick which he wave at bubble, bubble turn into TV and he watch BBC where there is a show about how to capture his uncle Black'
'Harry is not happy'
'Harry looks down and see he is man now, but he grow not tall, maybe if he play basketball he might but in England Harry only play soccer, that till Harry in school then he play his favourite sport'
'Harry turn TV into bubble then say prayer to Jesus before walking to kitchen where Aunt Penny is angry with Harry again'
'Aunt Penny look at Harry and scream'
AUNT PENNY : 'HELP HELP It's the man from Austin powers, help help!'
'Harry look puzzle and rub his scar then look in mirror'
'Harry sees mini me, Harry feel heart break into one piece'
Same thing happend to me earlier today, even when I pressed preview, all I got was garbled links, till I scratched that comment posting and posted a new comment. I think there is something wrong with the comment posting section of the slash code (in particular the html filters), could someone verify this.
I love Andrew Lipson's Math site, thought it was on slashdot for a while. If you like to see other such sites check out Eric Harshbarge's Lego page (cool stuff like wedding cakes and skyscrapers), Henry Lim's totally awsome lego sculptures, he's even got Natalie Portman (Not naked, and next to the petrified beethovan). BTW, Eric's got a very interesting page on on San Mononoke (more on those).
Lameness is not an excuse for pretending to be funny ;)
Yeah man, I miss Tucson now. But I don't remmeber them giving pizza with rentals, when did that start?
Hey,
I used to rent there, Nostagia! They had a nice porn collection too btw!
Forgot to add this,
p df
I also evaluating a box that seems to clearly kick butt on the Pro800Turbo. This box is called the "Mark II" from Net Integration Technologies out of Canada. I have one here in my lab right now and testing begins this afternoon. If you want to see it, go to:
http://www.gdbsolutions.com/netitech/markii.
So far I haven't seen any satisfactory black box solutions for under a grand. If you want to do it right, spend a little more money and be pleasantly surprised.
I have been unsatisfied with the Pro800Turbo. It is not able to properly act as a DNS relay when working with multiple WANs (ISPs); if one of the ISPs goes down, the unit sometimes fails (so much for the backup capabilities); and the unit just hangs every now and then.
I have complained to Nexland technical support numerous times about the DNS problem. I purchased the router several months ago, and all they've come up with so far is the obligatory "try the new firmware" (which didn't solve the problem).
I would not recommend purchasing the Pro800Turbo at this time, as the hardware/firmware is just not good enough yet (and the tech support is not able to compensate for this shortcoming).
I am now on a multiplexing BSD implmentation (OpenBSD), the two feeds are load balanced pretty nicely (and using just an old P5 box). I don't believe I'd ever go back to the NexLand box again. Also, Linux people might be interested in load balancing in their kernels, I've not tried it msyelf, if someone has please let me know if it's worth looking into.
Please mod down my parent post above, I now believe that Lilo is all that the ppl here say he is. I take back anything nice I have said about him. But Lilo should not be the cause of you not supporting OPN. OPN could exist without Lilo.
Lilo,
I've supported you in my previous comments, but this from you? I just compaired this comment with your own logged in comment below. I think you are Astrotufing any anti-Lilo comments here, and I found that childish.
Look LILO, whatever you are doing here doesn't help your cause. I really respected you and what you did for OPN, but this is just too childish.
I've been analayzing comments posted in support of you with regard to your own comments posted as Lilo -- logged into slashdot. And from the grammar used, from the way the sentenses were used, from the way certain words are made bold, it is highly likely that you are posting all these comments pretending to be some AC supporting you. Shame on you Lilo. I thought you were cool. But this is ridiculas and completely unprofessional.
A person of your age should not care about all the trolls who post these comments and try to flood your network. YOU ARE THE CAUSE OF YOUR TROLLS. If you stopped adding fire and salt to those flames they would have stopped long ago, do you see people trolling this bad about others who have similar positions as you?
Frankly you owe ppl an explaination and an apology.
Sick of it.
I dont agree with you there. Ada is strongly ingrained in the gov infrastructure. There are a large amount of work done by the gov that is still being done with Ada, and not only gov, but most of the larger scientific corporations. I don't feel Java would replace them anytime soon.
A lot of people care about Ada, a lot more than Java ( I believe, from the amount of SN with respect to Java).
I know you're trolling.
But, If not for Lilo, you would not have an OPN. The dude works real hard to keep the networking running optimal. I don't think someone who spends so much time providing such great service to this community should be spoken of like that. If you dont like his wallops turn them off, you know how to do it right?
OPN is a great network, not only that it's the main gathering place for a number of big support groups (eg: Debian). Lilo keeps the network safe, clean and secure.
BTW: I know the idiot in UK who's being going around making anti-semetic statments about Lilo, he used to be an IrcOP on OPN, but got kicked out. The kid is a real sore (him and his sister), I wouldn't be suprised if you were him or those sites are his.
What have you done for the community lately?
It is a shame that COBOL has Fujitsu to develop COBOL.NET but that Ada has no such large corporate to perform this sort of work. Without such a sponsor it is hard to see how Ada gets out of the catch22 of: User: "Why use Ada when it doesn't support feature X?" Vendor: "Why support feature X when there is no user demand?"
Perhaps there is some hope in the 'DotGNU' project. The item that interested me in the FAQ for this is:
"1.17 Will C and C++ be supported in DotGNU?
Would you like to see Ada support in DotGNU?They are behind on everthing but the Kernel. My debian PPC shows Galeon 1.2.5, Mozilla 1 RC something (I use Galeon but it backends with Mozilla), Evolution 1.0.7, and actual apt-get :)
The DrakX Installer offers several choices for Mac specific items such as the monitor, keyboard and mouse. I got full mouse and sound up the first time. The DraskX Installer found my Cable Modem Internet connection (DHCP) and I had internet connection on the first boot.
The only problem is the the Mandrake PrintConf program doesn't recognize the Epson printer attached to my USB port. The printer works fine under Mac OS8/X so I know the USB port is OK.
All in all, the Mandrake Installation was much easier than the YDL and sound works on Mandrake 8.2
All in all I like Mandrake and will probably stay with it (on my Pismo)
Give it a try, it's simple, pretty easy btw. I'd say Mandrake is the easiest on this platform now for Linux. Debian still being the hardest (but I feel coolest :))
YDL is good for those doing the MAC-to-Linux bridge. But, if you've ever tried out debian, you'd know how much better it is, once it's installed :) It's a lot easier to maintain a Debian based system than any other distro out there (even including the FreeBSD's). It's not very hardcore and Debian doesnt really need any more knowledge than what you might already have. If you've ever compiled a kernel, then you're ready for a smooth Debian installation. If you like debian you might wanna try Gentoo btw, I believe that's for a bit more advanced group. But, any good MacOS developer/YDL user can install Debian.
This is my experience with installing Potato Debian on my iBook DVD, using the
/home (home) /opt (opt)
/dev/hda9 -m /target/etc/ofboot.b --root /dev/hda10 --partition 10 /target/etc/yaboot.conf. Here is what it looks like after all the
= /boot/yaboot
/target/etc/yaboot.conf -m /target/etc/ofboot.b
rev0 CDs. I know this story is about YDL, but a lot of people do not realize that Debian and Mandrake works just as fine on Apple hardware. And thus this walkthrough, hope it's helpful, give it a try.
This is not a Guide to Debian installation, rather a step-by-step
guide (doh!). And write down what you're doing (especially partition numbers,
that the reason why I'm writing this and reinstalling everything from scratch
for the second time)
Enjoy.
Instructions
------------
1. Boot the laptop with the iBook install, by pressing "C" during the chime
sound
2. Launch the Drive Setup, on the CD, in the Utilities directory
3. I created 2 partitions. First one is the Linux Place Holder, one big fat
partition that we'll split into all your Linux partitions during the Debian
install process. The second one is for MacOS. You might want to create 3
partitions (respectivily for Linux, MacOS, and an HFS one for sharing files
between Linux and MacOS). I'm only using MacOS to play DVDs, so it's no big
deal for me.
4. Install MacOS on the MacOS drive (don't install on the place holder for
Linux!)
5. Reboot the 'puter, it should work, otherwise bring your iBook back to the
shop and jump off a cliff.
6. Now that we're sure that the iBook and MacOS works, reboot up, and press
Option-Apple-O-F during the chime to access the Open Firmware.
7. type in "boot cd:\\yaboot". Try "boot cd:\install\powermac\yaboot" if the
former fails.
8. On the yaboot prompt, enter "debian video=aty128fb:vmode:10:depth:8:" where
debian is the name of the image you're gonna be using to boot (hit to
list the available ones).
9. Select your keyboard, and Partition your HD, following Ethan Benson's
mac-fdisk-basics.txt (see at the bottom for URL).
11. At this point I have this kind of partitioning:
hda1 to hda8: MacOS crap
hda9: Apple_Bootstrap partition
hda10: / (root)
hda11: swap
hda12:
hda13:
hda14: MacOS
(...Later...)
10. When asked if you want to "Make Linux Bootable Directly From Hard Disk",
get to another console and get a shell (on the iBook, it's a bit dodgy,
keep pressed in this order Apple-fn-F2).
11. Run this line to get your bootstrap partition initialized:
mkofboot --boot
12. In the present state, you wouldn't be able to boot Linux because of the
(lack of) novideo option in the default yaboot.conf
Edit the
editing:
boot=/dev/hda9
device=hd:
timeout=20
install
magicboot=/boot/ofboot.b
image=/vmlinux
label=Linux
root=/dev/hda10
read-only
partition=10
append = "video=aty128fb:vmode:10:depth:8:"
13. Run that to be able to run Linux:
ybin -C
14. Reboot the system, and get into the Open Firmware again
15. To boot your linux system, type in:
boot hd:9,yaboot
(...Later...)
16. Voila, you still need to configure your computer (X-Window, dial-up,
desktop...), but at least it will boot up normally =)
17. to boot up by default with Linux, run "setenv boot-device hd:9,yaboot"
within the Open Firmware. Press the Option key during the chime to boot
MacOS.
Most recently,
/usr/src/linux/drivers/video/matrox/mat roxfb_accel.c
And you think that's great?
/. posting)).
.. just how human being behave, cause they are not machines.
People are not robots, they are not computers, nor simple machines that use computers. We are breathing, living, human beings. And we cant work all the time, no matter what ppl tell.
It's been found that entertainment creates a better work enviornment. People are more willing to work when they have a more relaxing enviornment (When was the last time you got any work done by never taking breaks and forever working (and i mean minus mountain dews, mp3 audio on head, and the occasional
I think your company is doomed. Please find a good shrink to explain to your exectivies
And it's the two usual reasons again.
1. Bandwidth Hogs
2. RIAA on the arse.
Where does it say it's some other reason?
Corrections?
Never said Caldera opened source, I said they let it go (as give it up to Lineo). =- Beef with Caldera =-
FreeDOS is not by Caldera. And you should try it. It's pretty good. I've been using it on bosch and dosemu.